Zaunkoenig M2K Review - Does LIGHTEST mouse = BEST aim?
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- Zaunkoenig M2K is the supercar of the peripherals space delivering a handmade, carbon fibre mouse that weighs in at 21g...
So is this mouse the ultimate fingertip precision tool, not quite... let's find out why!
Check it out here: zaunkoenig.co/pages/m2k
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:19 Overview
1:15 Specs
2:35 Click Feel & Sound Test
3:00 Gameplay & Performance
4:00 Does Weight Matter?
4:51 Some Major Compromises
6:00 Ways to Improve
#gaming #mousereview #fingertip - เกม
![[ไฮไลต์] แบดมินตันชาย วิว กุลวุฒิ (ไทย) vs LEE Zii Jia (มาเลเซีย) รอบรองชนะเลิศ | โอลิมปิก 2024](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mvBiEAqlssw/mqdefault.jpg)
the cable holds it back quite a lot, i feel like the lighter the mouse the more important a good cable is
I'd always said cables don't bother me... Until I used the M2K and I was constantly aware of it, such a shame!
Hope you enjoyed the video regardless 😬
Honestly, HSK cable feels pretty terrible in terms of weight shifted when moving the mouse vs M1K/M2K imo. Sure it's rubber, but still quite impressive at holding up against other mouse cables considering what it is.
@@Aithey I don't really like the cable on either, but at least HSK is a little easier to paracord if needed.
Ultimately I prefer the HSK+ but that's not a retail mouse yet.
cable really does makes the mouse heavier which is very noticeable ,i have a model D- wireless which has the best cable all around but still can feel a little heavier .
@@GoodEnoughTechReviews yea using the M2K at high velocities felt like I was whipping my kinky mousepad with the cable. Do you know if HSK+ or HSK Pro will have the lower profile shape? I get mixed answers online
your videos have changed so much in 10 months, I just found this one - great review and a very interesting perspective. Thanks man
Appreciate it! 😬 Yeah just trying to find my own personality a bit more with the videos tbh
Nice! I was about to do mine but got lost in stuff. Loving your new content!
Appreciate it! Been trying to bring in the "fun" factor more!
Great informative review Gary. I have the glossy M2K and had it for a while. It was my main for some months. I totally agree the cable is what's holding this mouse back. I hope we will get 8k wireless soon
Yeah, or even just an option with a more flexible, lightweight cable tbh... I also dream of at least 1 side button, but that's just me lol!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I wouldn't count on it, I think they will be cabled as long as the company is alive. The good thing is, that the soon-to-be-here M3K's cable will be better, and the M2S's, which comes in 2024, will be even better than that.
You had the glossy M2K; how slippery it was due to the coating?
@@zatozatoichi7920 Glossy coating is great imo! Really grippy, don't need any grip tape. I modded my M2K with an aftermarket cord and it's almost perfect now. Still wireless would be superb ofc.
Looking forward to the M3K. M2S not so much since the steep price and no scroll wheel (which I need, idc about sidebuttons though).
@@lnbabz Good to hear that. I was offered a glossy one for 137 USD (tax included), and as it peaked my interest a long time ago and I mained a G-Wolves HSK Stardust for 7 months, I'm seriously thinking about buying it.
Thank you Gary, I wasn't sure what to blame now that my mouse latency is fine.
GETreviews handy guide to coping should be mandatory learning in all schools
cool review! not many high quality videos about this mouse.
i've got a few hundred hours in kovaak with the m2k (Voltaic Jade complete except static clicking) and a bunch of CS and Valorant.
I think people complaining about the cable are laying it out wrong. it needs to be a wide upside-down U flat on the table. the rubber has minimal friction and the right amount of stiffness not to tangle. paracord would be better for running up to a bungee or straight ahead because it's lighter and more flexible, but you'd feel more drag on a mouse this light.
wrt side buttons: you can't aim as well while pressing side buttons. i moved my thumb button to a pedal and haven't looked back.
Yoooo, that idea of a pedal is lowkey genius! Gonna have to try that out, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed the video though!
you sumed it up so well, kinda wondered if to pull the trigger on one for a while but i dont think it's worth it over the og hsk..
loved the video, like always!
It's a cool mouse, but honestly with the HSK Pro being so near it might be worth holding tight for that
I really enjoy this shape of mouse. I hope to see this company continue to improve.
Yeah I do think a bit more flexibility in the design, maybe a larger shape too they could have a much bigger impact because the mouse is great, it's just a bit compromised in terms of features.
When I had the M1K I learned that mice that light have to be wireless.
I love the shape and clicks and no other fingertip mouse has hit like it does though. I've just had no choice but to compromise.
one of the best reviewers out there 👍
Too kind! I'm just happy you enjoyed it
Fantastic review. 👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it! More content dropping again as of next week on the regular!
What you said about being able to have those options when buying the mouse make so much sense. You should be able to at least get a better cable than that rubber one.
If it was factory mass produced then I get it... but they said that literally hand-assemble every mouse from parts in Germany and QC it themselves... at least give me some basic options as a consumer to get the mouse that makes the most sense for ME and not what you think I should have ><
Paracord, Switches, Ceramic Wheel colour, Scroll encoder... These are like just the bare minimum you'd expect from such a premium/bespoke product.
@@GoodEnoughTechReviews Maybe the clicks are best with those Japanese Omrons? The way they made the cord is so obvious they don't want anyone messing with the mouse they made, it's really weird. Finalmouse vibes
I don't doubt the JP omron are great, some of the best clicks I've felt tbh, but I still think it'd be nice to at least let me have the option of a different feel potentially.
Cord fitting is 💯 the more frustrating thing though, especially if they only have the rubber option
Would you recommend this mouse to someone who’s just curious in trying out fingertip? I know the answer is definitely no because of the price, but let’s pretend it’s not expensive. What other fingertip mice would you recommend otherwise? I mostly play relaxed claw. My hands are at the smaller end of medium and the only mouse I have which I can fingertip is the M42.
I stopped using the starlight 12 for this and my aim has become even better. One thing they need to do is add side buttons and maybe even make it wireless.
I think that if it works for you then it's an absolute monster of a mouse tbh, like you say though the cable and lack of side buttons mean it's something a lot of people aren't even going to bother trying unfortunately
kis
This mouse is definitely something I'm trying, I would just like the try an updated version with a different cable and sensor. There are 2 new models they are working on, M3K and M1S, I guess I'll set aside a small fortune for one of them lol.
This is new info to me! Excited to see what both bring to the table because the M2K is really a special mouse, just not exactly what I was hoping for.
I tried finding anything about the M3K and the M1S, and got zero results. Where did you get this information, and how would the M3K and M1S differ to the M2K?
@@tommygun6866 its on their discord server
@@tommygun6866 I had asked them by email if they were updating their M2K and they invited me to their discord. The only thing I've learned is that the newer mice will have a different cable and probably the 3399 sensor.
@@nyororomeowelas1225 do you know when they would release this? Im on the fence on the m2k now. Considering to wait for hsk+ but read that they are different
If you wsnt the mouse to feel even crazier then they have pinned a detailed cable swapping guide to their Discord that I put together.
The cable in the guide is the Enncoo AirCord and it stays out if the way of the mouse and is crazy light.
I've heard great things about the airport, I put a gold paracord on mine with a bit of effort and tinkering :) not quite an aircord but massively improves the experience imo
@@GoodEnoughTechReviews nice nice
I think I'm more interested in a drop test for this mouse than actually the gaming performance
Expensive AF drop test 😂
Hearing the word "Hyperglides" in 2022 truly is nostalgic. I really do wonder what happened to them.
Hyperglides our fallen kings... They live on in our hearts and in our heads... Appreciate you checking it out 😬
Do you prefer the low profile shape of the M2K or the high profile shape of the HSK? I personally like it low profile and am curious on the G-Wolves HSK Pro (low profile version) will turn out.
I don't really mind with my grip as my relaxed fingertip doesn't touch the hump on either.
I have the only HSK+ outside of the factory atm, which is the new shape and has a slower hump and longer shell and probably find that one the most comfortable of the three, also helps that it has side buttons and is wireless though! 😬
@@GoodEnoughTechReviews Hmm. You making me want to try this mythical HSK+ now lol
If it ever actually releases I 100% think every fingertip player should at least try it, it's that good...th-cam.com/video/9QK81uUAVTc/w-d-xo.html
Did you use "enable high precision mouse inout in overwatch".
If not then the tick rate of the server doesn't adapt to the hertz rate of the mouse.
Yeah, same with OW2, made sure I had that setting enabled but a good tip to share 100%
as an ex owner of an m2k this video is spot on well done
Appreciate you checking it out and commenting my man 😬
U returned it? If so and why?
350 dollars? No way Jose. Great review btw.
Yeah it's not even for sale anymore
It won’t raise your kd is all I understood. I just wanted it but I didn’t realize it would have a cable. I like wireless
Yeah, it's a nice fun mouse but I don't think it necessarily justifies the price, especially now the HSK+ exists and offers a similar feel, but wireless
@@GoodEnoughTechReviews just cannot find it 😕. Everyday searching for a decent price 🥹
Good luck in your hunt! It's a special mouse if you're a fingertip player
im using the mouse with sapphires skates, pad recommendation bro?
Pledge on desk is underated. A pad will only take away the sapphire glide
Ceramic pads are my current obsession in the hardpad space and are absolutely worth peeping.
For softpads that are still fast I'd suggest checking out anything cordura or hybrid.
A Boardzy fable
pasta is so good tho
"its not the size that matters" LOL
I keep telling myself that... never makes it any easier =D
What were they thinking with that cable?????
It's an intentional choice so kinda have to respect them for going with what they wanted... Can't say it's worked out well for the mouse though imo sadly
So basically it's just like my day job. Making someone else's dream come true.
You win this comment section, everyone else can go home 😬
@@GoodEnoughTechReviews awesome content as always. Happy to see you replying to each and every comment. I’m not expecting you to do the same once you get big, it’s just not feasible, so I’ll enjoy it while it lasts :)
Thank you! I'll aim to do it so long as I have the capacity to... If someone has taken the time to write a comment, it's common courtesy to give them a response imo.
I take several mental breaks from my work in the day and give myself 5mins to respond to all socials and YT comments... This helps recentre me on my day job and also helps to fulfil my obligation to the community that has supported me so kindly! Hopefully it's something I can maintain!
if only it had some decent sturdy side buttons and was wireless it would actually be insane
Yeah I really did miss them tbh
zaunkoenig should make a wireless m2k i would buy it
I feel like it's a no-brainer move for their next mouse for sure
I think the problem is that it is not really a luxury product even with that price tag. The two dudes probably work very hard for the 350 dollars they get, and surely make way less profit than something like the finalmouse for 189 dollars, and you get less hype and comfort features but more performance and quality
It's a balance for sure, I don't think anyone looks at Dominik and Patrick as making easy money on it, but objectively $350 is a HUGE ask for a gaming mouse and with each of them units being hand assembled, I think some level of personalisation in terms of parts is probably realistic.
Nothing too ground breaking but I think switches, encoder, wheel ceramic colour and paracord/standard cord options would help to make this mouse feel something more bespoke, especially given there are 4-5 week lead times anyway.
But again, all subjective as any review, that's just how I felt coming out of it.
can you dismemtle this one and change it's cable ?
You can but it's a very hard job that I would only recommend to experienced modders
OOOOH BOY! You're hilarious!
Stay Zorz! 😬
MadCatz Chad lmao I forgot they made a mouse
And Batman actually uses it... Dark Knight needs to sub to Boardzy 😬
www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/m8q2ol/mouse_from_justice_league_snyders_cut_batmouse_in/?
the price is justified by the fact that it's hand made in Germany... In a Chinese sweatshop you can have it made for ¼ the price.
0:16 “toasty!”
Old man humour is an acquired taste but you got it and that's what matters 😬
i would do unspeakable things for this mouse.
I left that to the viewers imagination 😬
@@GoodEnoughTechReviews I’d use a 100 gram mouse for a month D: that’s my limit tho. Not a day longer
G502 with all the extra weights gridshot challenge
@@GoodEnoughTechReviews now you’re trying to break a wrist 😳
@Rare Cooking Wanna buy mine? Lol
noice
🤣🤣 do you have a comment macro? 😬
noice
light mouse that come with heavy clicks wont work, your finger have to struggle to stabilize the mouse when clicking. if its effortless light clicks, then your finger doesnt have to struggle to keep the mouse in place.
I think it's preference really, also there's binning variance on switches, you can get kailh 8.0 with 45g/f if you're sorting them too.
I don't actually have a problem with the clicks on this mouse, I think they're really nice, I just think it'd be nice to at least let the customer pick what they want is all, especially at that price
@@GoodEnoughTechReviews can you recommend mice with 45-55g actuation? after using rvm (cramping and too long for my 20x10.5)for a while I cant use most mice I bought later due heavy click, the only kaihl i think okay is on pulsar xlite wired, but its not a fingertip mouse.
Mouse with the lightest clicks I've tried is the M4 Wireless from Xtrfy but that's far from a fingertip mouse too. Honestly if you're looking for a specific actuation force you're almost better finding the perfect shape for you then paying someone to solder in lighter switches tbh.
Halfway through the video.. Seems like your aim (you said it not me lol) isn't up to par to give this mouse a proper review, which is unfortunate, but still a great review talking about the small details and their impacts!
Note: Not being toxic, just saying if you were a demon I think you'd have a different perspective on the aiming capabilities/differences, and have more insight to speak on. This is a fantastic opportunity to collab with a pro player though! A businessman can't build an office without a construction team.
For a premium mouse at that price point
the lack of customization and options
is a huge no go for most people interested in buying it.
I understand that the engineering behind it may be complicated but having the creators and most of the community being against making it available with side buttons, other cables or wireless capability
will keep the company from growing their product. Is a shame that even in the discord server people mock each other saying that it does not need more options or customization and that the people that want side buttons are haters.
The point of being a PC gamer is freedom in customization and to be able to personalize hardware at your own preference.
THIS, 100%
Feels like Zaun should've taken a look at their audience, enthusiast PC gamers who you are absolutely right, want to customise and tweak their setup to perfectly fit their needs.
I'm not saying expensive or difficult variations, but certainly options in the assembly would go a long way here, especially as each mouse is hand assembled by the brothers, so there's plenty of scope for them to add different colour options, switches or specific cable requests.
Great mouse, but a ton of potential left on the table.
a
Blessing the algo with the comment and reply 😁
GAAAAAAY