I agree that the miniled will be better in almost all conditions because its significant higher brightness and another thing is it wont suffered from burn in so you can enjoy that beauty of the screen in HDR for alot longer time.
The comparison images of the reflective surface of the two TVs was a great addition. What I really wanted to see in order to commit to QLED. Great video!
Great video, I brought the 75" QNED91 last year and its been amazing. I was on the fence between this and a C1 at the time, and with price being a factor the QNED represented such good value it was hard to pass up. I can say it's been a great choice and I've been very happy with it. In December I added an XBOX Series X and gaming on this screen with 120Hz, ALLM and AMD FreeSync has been pure joy. Highly recommended to anyone wanting a top tier LG screen packed with the latest features, with support for 120Hz VRR gaming but at a good price.
I want a gaming tv I was considering the QNED91. How are the black levels on this tv ?? From what I saw on YT some say is almost OLED level while others say is pretty bad ....
I don't watch much TV during the day except during lunch time when I'm working from home so I went with the OLED. The perfect blacks are just stunning. I found the high end mini LED 75" and OLED 77" TV's were priced very similar. So price isn't an issue anymore, it's just down to personal preference.
For me still the oled is better but yes the gape is little, value for money the mini led wins , i have the sony a80j and i am happy with the picture quality and the sound also sony processing is really great..
@@santigullotta8736 I looked at that also, but my pedestal for my tv to sit on can’t be over 30 inches for the stand. So I’m limited on how wide the tv stand can be, so that knocks the a80j out of the running.
Lol personally me and the wife are constantly dimming our TVs. We have a LG GX and rarely do I think it needs higher brightness. Just yesterday she was saying that the next bedroom TV will be required to be able to almost turn off the screen when dimmed all the way down.
Soooo confused! I remember the days when your only decision before buying a new TV was : Black & white or Colour picture. Got a plasma just before they stopped making them and now screen burn is tempting me to upgrade. Was going to wait for Lg G2 on black Friday or C2 oor Mini Led ooor......
Or just get a C1 for dirt cheap, or a Mini LED on display clearance. I got lucky getting a 65in QN90A Mini LED flagship samsung display unit for $831 after cashback/discounts. The new QN90B 2022 replacement is retailing for $2300 right now and rtings like the QN90A better.
I was sold to c1, got a 48 for the ps5 and last month I gave my panasonic 50 plasma the retirement and replaced it with a 65" c1, I'm sold, it's awesome and they're cheaper than ever... Grab one and you won't be disappointed...
Damn it! I thought I was sold on the OLED but this video changed literally everything. Now I'm going to go back and double check because the prices from a G2 OLED to a QNED that is actually slightly bigger, is MASSIVE by about 400%. $4,800 for a G2 OLED and only $1,600 for a QNED. Guess I should go QNED and just be happy with such a massive savings.
The detail and accuracy when showing the water and the road make the QNED seem even better. I already liked it more before seeing this because I went into BestBuy to see them in person and the QNED TV has better viewing angles without getting dark since in a living room, not everybody gets to sit directly in front of the TV and some are at more of an angle. Plus the QNED is $400 less for the same size and specs. (65")
I bought a qned85 for my bright living room 3 months ago and I am well pleased and would buy it again. I'm not anti oled but this just made more sense for my situation. I might get an oled one day for my bedroom but I have a Sony x930e in it and it's too good of a tv to replace.
I ended up moving my x930e to my vacation condo and bought a 48" oled for my bedroom. The oled is nice but I still prefer the qned85 to it. The colors do seem more realistic than the oled. But who knows what I might want 5 to 10 years down the road. Tech is changing so fast.
thank you a lot, im going to buy the LG 65qned91 and im now 100% sure this tv willl be the right choose for me and my family-livingroom. great comparison!
Great video. For hundreds of video reviews and comparisons that I watched and thousands of comments and opinions that I read for weeks, I finally made my decision.
OLED is best for me any way. The only downside is the burn in... The contrast and color result of the video clip is just about how good you set your tv up. No way to compare on that aspect.
@@misterlexx2721 It depends on the people : For instance , I hate intense brightness on any screen, including my Oled TV, which makes it never displayed at full brightness
@@zigpop67Same here. My 2019 LG 55E9 bedroom tv reaches 412 cd/m² in SDR for a 10% window. 248 cd/m² sustained 100% window. This is more than enough for SDR. My E9 with HDR 10% window reaches over 812 cd/m² and sustained 100% window 139 cd/m². I do a lot of youtube and web surfing with it connected to my PC Radeon 6900XT HDMI for gaming. Never had a issue of burn in. The contrast is capped at 85 and brightness at 50. I have to enable Eco mode lower the brightness because videos and white text are so bright it blurs your eyes.
cant we just have both. LOL. For daytime viewing in a bright room i like the mini led for brightness and reflection handling. I saw the LG in store and it looks superb for the price point. Now at night time if watching a movie i personally like to see it in the proper dark room setting with no lights on to give me the experience. And for that OLED is just amazing. The again the ABL is an issue for me with OLED. I do agree miniled is close enough and its good enough for me but I have to see LGs processing this year with the new QNED90 of 2022. This is a great video and honestly there needs to be an update once the new QNEDS come out later this year. Great job!
@@kingkobra1956 I mean it’s close enough except the fact that whatever blooming the tv expels will be seen more at an angle. There’s no way around blooming with and led tv. It just depends how much there is on ur panel. To me it doesn’t bother me and it’s better than regular LED.
I am trying to decide between the 77" C2 OLED and the 75" QNED, this video really helped and affirmed my pros/cons list for me. I'm not sure the OLED and it's extra 2 inches is worth the extra £1300 asking price given how good the MiniLED technology looks and performs against it.
I have a G1. I got it for all the extra features it has for OLED, including the usual OLED black levels. Other than that the G-series comes with a 5 year warranty so I shouldn’t have to worry about burn-in or other mechanical issues until I’m ready to upgrade again.
We just purchased the 55” LG QNED 85 at an outrageous price here in Canada($798.00). We hope we made the right decision. We upgraded from the 2014 Samsung H6. Couldn’t pass up that price as it was $1698CDN original price. Haven’t received it yet as it is coming from another store. Hopefully it I’ll be big step up from our old one.
I also just picked up the 55 qned85 from Costco in Canada during the blowout pricing. I specifically chose it for our gaming room because I didn't want to deal with potential Oled burn in. Have to say, it's a pretty great picture. Once you dial in the settings based on your lighting environment I think you will be happy. I'm sure there are better pictures to be had but I am more than happy with the picture I am getting and don't think the price can be beat.
not having anything else but quantum dot Samsungs in the rest of the house all I can say is they are definitely better. It must be because those are area lit and not with mini-leds. I think if a person just isn't a OLED acolyte this will be an excellent way to get a much brighter picture with still excellent black level detail.@@unscripted3209
Freeze the video at 3:44. Notice that the OLED shows lighting on the round duct that is not show on the mini LED. Next, freeze at 3:59. Something isn't right here. The robot on the left side of the pictures is different colors. Also, the bottom of the screens, the OLED screen shows the blue light reflected of the ground and MINI LED shows red reflected from the ground. Now check the background. the area above left robot has more detail in the OLED than the MINI LED. The MINI led is more washed out. But now look at the area above the robot in the middle. The details in the MINI LED look washed out, but then some details on the OLED look missing. In particular, look at the 'light mound', and the grill vent above the light mound. Seems like there are trade offs. I wonder if the differences that I see are: The frames aren't exact. (color differences)? And maybe we are completely discounting the software rendering done by each tv. Anyways, good comparison. I'm leaning MINI LED. I think OLED shows more details in most situations, but I'm leaning toward MINI LED because I want to use the tv as a monitor, and I fear image retention. Also, there are other noticeable differences between the two screens on the other scenes, but this is enough for now. Thanks!
I feel like while oled has infinite contrast and deepest of blacks, oleds have to be maxed out almost just to brighten the image especially in brighter rooms. I have an LG CX and I am having to push the brightness during the day, when a miniled doesnt have to be pushed super hard to achieve a satisfactory brightness level. If you can own both technologies, then that will give you the best of both worlds and you wont have to push your oled as hard, but also have access to infinite contrast. Also, very Timely video
This is the best comparison video out there, thanks so much for making it. I have made my choice and will go for the QNED 65 inch from LG, Samsung was out of play for me from the start and i always had great experiences with lg displays. Once my next paycheck comes ill pick one up for myself!
I go with miniLED for gaming because of the dimming issues with OLED! but I was curious to know the response time between them because there's is a noticeable difference
I’m a big fan of Quantum dots mini Leds but was thinking of moving up to Oleds but after seeing your videos now I’m not too sure if going to Oled is considered moving up. Lol 😂 What is the American version of that LG QNED? Thank you
I opted for the Samsung Q90B as it comes in a 43” model and I use it as my computer monitor. Blacks and colors are amazing. It’s super bright, and I never have to worry about burn-in or dimming features since I’m using it as a PC monitor. Also, the antireflective treatment on this particular model is amazing. The screen looks pitch black in even in daytime when the room is bright, I can barely see my reflection in it, yet it doesn’t have that dull matte screen look either.
Interesting-how do you find the operating system? I have the LG UR81 a great picture and sound (I no longer use a soundbar at 63yrs and with a hearing issue!) but the operating system 😢I hardly have any apps I deleted most but it’s quite laggy all the time 😮 it’s a shame because the tv is perfect apart from that. I was wondering how it performs on these two tv’s? Thanks for posting
I have LG G1 Evo 77 inch ... - thats a brilliant TV, After this video I will go for the LG QNED91 65 ,,, as I like the LG interface ... excellent .. thank you so much ..
I am leaning towards OLED but I might pick up the best Mini LED TV and compare side by side and return the worst. I am coming from C9 OLED and loooove the deep blacks and awesome contrast. However, the LG G2 is far brigther than the C2 and might have beat that Mini LED in brightness :P I am learning more towards QD-OLEDs tho, depending on price, we will see. Sony A95K is the dream but expensive 😒
QD OLED have bad black levels. The quantum dot colour filter isn't 100% transparent so black levels are slightly higher. Plus the QD panels are the same panel as the C2 running Sony or Samsung tech on top. I've got a G2 and I can say you will be happy with it. I had the TV in this video and I'm convinced he's bias. The blooming was horrible. Yes it's smaller thanks to mini led but it's still a halo around bright things. The intro to altered carbon on Netflix really shows it's failings. The black room with neon eyes of soldiers is what made me sit up and go wtf? Then I went down the rabbit hole of test patterns and hated the TV more and more. Returned it and got the G2. Much better
I just returned my c2 for a qn90b and holy cow it is so much better. HDR is 100% different on mini-led, its mind blowing. Even black level is just as good. Never going back to OLED.
@@michaelscott466 You must not be as sensitive to it as others. Testing shows the QN90B has blooming and black levels are still not true black. It's a bright TV so in a bright room will look better next to an OLED but close the curtains and OLED still wins. But to each his own, I'm glad you're happy. I don't buy samsung since they refuse to support dolby vision HDR which is the best HDR by far
@@sholmesbrown It had blooming issues on one of the updates. Mine has almost zero, 99% of the time zero blooming. Also it is true blacks as the backlight turns off, it is OLED black level (the vast majority of the time) side by side with an OLED you would see no difference in black level performance. Zero.
I’m really on the fence about which one to get price is no issue I won’t be gaming just looking for the best quality for movies what do you guys think I should get
I just got a C1 yesterday and returned it today. Picture is far too dark. The best thing about it is the motion clarity and response time but not enough for me to nurse the tv and put up with the constant dimming of the screen. ( I know you can change this in the service menu, but it's too much of a pain in the ass)
Picture is far to dark? Maybe you should have turned up the brightness a little. That may have made all the difference in the world. I never have a "constant" dimming of the screen on my C1.
@@SteveSmith-cm1hx I have both c1 and qn900 and somehow lg c1 is to bright to me in hdr but qn is perfectly fine even tho its way brighter. I think its oled thing
i know i'm late to this, but would really appreciate a reply. i'm hard of hearing so i watch everything with subtitles, i have read that they can sooner or later cause burn in on oled tv's, especially if they are bright white, which i need them to be. im between getting an lg c1 or c2, but now i.m thinking the LG miniLED might be a safer bet longterm. any thoughts, advice, recommendations? thanks
Thank you very much for this review been thinking for weeks about get the c2 but didn't want to pay the price but after seeing this video I am definitely going for the Qned which is £600 cheaper happy days 😁
Got to be honest, never been a fan of LG TV’s - I think Mini LED does have some impressive attributes, but it’s OLED for me, especially the Panasonic 2000 series. I pulled out of buying a JZ2000 at the last minute earlier this year…but intend to get the LZ2000 as soon as it’s available in my local store.
Thanks for your video and your work. You said that the blacks are close to the blacks on the OLED. But you never showed images side by side wich are mostly black, like stars in the dark night sky. Seems like you wanted to avoid that 🧐
I got mine qned mini led and its stunning compare to image quality for the money. Bright room performance, view from the different angles and much more you get just about half of the price.
I ordered a few hours ago the LG 916 QNED mini LED, it was in Germany in sale for just 799€ instead of 1.400€ But I was so unsure and waited and then it was sold out, but during the night did ONE popped up on Amazon for 50€ more (850€ instead of 799) and I ordered it. But tbh, even now, I'm unsure if it was the right decision ;( I only watch on my TV with all lights removed who may be visible in the TV, windows are completely darkened. But currently would the LG OLED C3 (it's the best from the C series) cost around 1.600€ and I have to hope that it gets a deal in this black Friday week. I hate this purchasing pressure, I spent days on research and are still unsure ;(
@@PcGamingForFun i gave the TV back and waited on a good deal for the OLED c3. I paid 1499€. The CS model in 65" was last month also on sale at Amazon for"just" 1100€. I have the "magic motion " remote control and it sucks, very hard to move, I prefer to use the arrows. Also the German UI is very poorly translated, it's a TV from 2023 and in 2023 could you easily translate any language to German with AI, Google or deepL. It's a shame for a TV which did official cost 3.200€. I didn't bought a QLED mini, and many people reported screen issues, so OLED is better, but: it's a HUGE amount of money, just for movies.
@@PcGamingForFun oh if you just talk about the image, many people don't know they can disable the assistance features. Especially "Clearview" should be disabled, it's unnormal. I disabled all AI systems to boost the image with fake effects. That improved the quality.
This is last years QNED91 so obvious the QN90B will be better. The QNED91 2022 version is not released yet. But how can it beat it in resolution when they are both 4K??
Is the LG a 2022 model or 2021? Right now I have the option to buy the LG 65 mini led 2021 for just 1045 euro. Is there a big difference between 2021 and 2022? Btw. great video! Have had a hard time, if it was worth it to get mini led. The model is LG 65" QNED91 or LG 65QNED916PA Also, how does it compare to Samsungs 65 neo qled?
I bought a 65" QNED a month back and it was replaced twice due to horrible backlight bleeding and screen flickering, finally went with the lg cs 65" OLED and it's amazing And for the price, the QNED was £1099 and the OLED was on sale for £1250 .. so well worth the extra money
Could be wrong but I think it's because Windows is in hd unless you're watching videos of course. It can do hdr but it's not the best. So I can see a regular monitor being better since that's what it's made for.
Thank you for this review. Is the LG QNED "91" MINI LED not available in the USA? I can't find it anywhere. If not, do you know what the USA comparable model is? Thank you.
Although I enjoyed this video and other videos you have done. I would have liked to have seen some of the images from both of the tvs playing dark material. I have oled but for where its used, is perfect in my case but for a brighter a room I wouldnt buy one. But blooming is a huge annoyance amd would be even bigger now ive experienced OLED
Don't even think to get an LCD with local diming for low light rooms, it will make you want to return that TV. The blooming is really bad. I can notice blooming in a room with pretty bright lights turned on even on QN85, QN90 and QN95 Samsung TV's, on X93j from Sony, and on QNED81 and QNED91 (that one from 2021) it's even worse than what I've seen from Samsung and Sony. Though, the 50QNED81 isn't that bad, that one I might need to try in a low light room.
@@MirelRC I had a sony x900h where I now have the oled for evening viewing and its literally night and day . Could never go back to blooming now . And in my case brightness for HD viewing is set just below middle level 35 to 40 . Plenty bright enough.
OLED in 65 tend to have a pink hue. Not a problem in the 77,83 sizes. One can also use the reduce blue light feature. Settings out of the box are not going to give best color results. Mini led should be very interesting, especially for larger screen sizes where costs are so high.
@@vladimirshp2396 Unfortunately no. I’m not exactly sure why this occurs. I’ve read that some feel it’s the anti glare coating. Sometimes it’s more pronounced on a particular side of the screen. Not all panels have the issue - and is described as panel lottery. If it’s not visible, that panel is fine.
I bought the lgc1 last year for my living room and was never completely satisfied with the picture, which I felt was quite dim. Fast forward to a week ago and I decided to jump on a qn95a which I put in place of the oled. Definitely brighter and much better suited for the room. I was also annoyed that the oled protruded from the wall because of the design, the closest I could get was 100mm from the wall to the front of the screen, whereas the qn95a now sits 60 mm from the wall, giving a much sleeker look.
If the tv protruded from the wall to much for you you should have went with the G series then. But as one person already said glad you saved 40mm of space.
I would still pick the oled over mini led, I've seen them side by side and you're camera setting don't do justice because if one is brighter than other, you must have shot both tvs with different camera exposures to match what they can reproduce not a side by side take... Also, mini led gives a smal shadow around de edge wich makes it look less sharp on the limit of the screen, beside this, they also produce blooming on dar scenes with highlights... I can agree a little bit with the reflections and higher brightness advantage, but that's only a matter of closing the windows blinds and also I'm pretty sure most "cinema sessions" are during the night so for me that's not a deal breaker too... Most recent films and cameras are now in hdr and Dolby vision, wich makes the higher brightness of the qned less noticeable as you measured almost the same peak brightness, higher brightness is only a plus in above aberage lit invironments like yours, but not in a way it makes a TV better just because of that... Last but not the least, prices, LG c1s are now much cheaper and the price is on par with the qned and they're as good as new c2s... I got a 48 c1 4 months ago just for Sim racing on the ps4, I've enjoyed it so much that only this month I couldn't pass an excellent deal for a 65 to replace my old but sill great panasonic plasma and I couldn't be more happier... To me is oled for the win!
oled is something else brother,plesse go take a look on the new sumsung oled with the peak brighness over 1000 nit i am sure you're gonna be blown away... there is no comparison with any tv with the back light
@IAlwayswin some people might get some burn in, but, for the kind of use we do at my place I doubt! Also don't have any auto dimming and colors are very accurate with right settings...
@IAlwayswin I don't avoid, I simply watch a diversity of things and that doesn't gets the burn in, do your research, extreme tests have been done without issues...
@IAlwayswin I've came from a thx certified 50" panasonic plasma that I've replaced with a 65" "highly awarded" Sony full array led x95j I got a good deal (at least I tought it was) but I had to return it due to terrible black uniformity. I've always wanted an oled but the price tag was too high and because of this, I've searched for led alternatives. I've seen side by side Samsung and LG mini led but they had a lot off blooming in high contrast (white on black, subtitles, etc...) Also, the mini led doesn't perform like everyone thinks they perform, they work by zones and not individualy because that would require a lot of image processing to lit one by one, so they're basicaly like the full array that I went for. Like you and a lot of reviewers mention, I was also worried about burn-in issues and because of that and the higher price tag I got the x95j, unfortunately it was a horrible experience. Fortunately on the week I've return the sony I found an awesome deal for a LG C1 and it's by far a better tv, and I don't even have to turn brightness for more than 60 on sdr contents, also, like I've mention on previous post, oleds have been tested in extreme conditions I will never use mine without burn in issues. Sound on the C1 is also better than the Sony and it doesn't loose brightess around the edges of the screen like the led screens. Before you judge me, I'll let you know who I am, I'm a professional photographer that works and calibrates my monitors for more than 10 years, I'm a well informed person and I know how image should look on a TV and that was why I kept my plasma for such long time, it didn't have any rival until oled came up... This is my opinion and it's like the iPhone vs android preference, you have your opinion, I respect but you must respect mine. I already have 2 oleds at home, 48" for my ps5 sim rig and the 65" on the living room, I'm happy with them, you won't change my mind... Peace! ✌️
@@allthingstech but off is still off or not ? If I watch a movie with black bars the bars should be black ;). Another YT Videos with the X93L says blacks are black and indeed a planet in dark space has dark space around the glowing planet. But never trust TH-cam 😅
Mini-LED is the way to go, until Micro-LD technology becomes affordable for normal consumers. OLEDs also have a TON of issues you can't avoid like burning logos, etc... and they're too delicate to my taste. I'm buying a 55inch version of this QNED Mini LED tomorrow!
Finally... this was probably the most useful vid I've watched in my hunt to find my next TV.
Thanks!
I agree that the miniled will be better in almost all conditions because its significant higher brightness and another thing is it wont suffered from burn in so you can enjoy that beauty of the screen in HDR for alot longer time.
The comparison images of the reflective surface of the two TVs was a great addition. What I really wanted to see in order to commit to QLED. Great video!
Great video, I brought the 75" QNED91 last year and its been amazing. I was on the fence between this and a C1 at the time, and with price being a factor the QNED represented such good value it was hard to pass up. I can say it's been a great choice and I've been very happy with it. In December I added an XBOX Series X and gaming on this screen with 120Hz, ALLM and AMD FreeSync has been pure joy. Highly recommended to anyone wanting a top tier LG screen packed with the latest features, with support for 120Hz VRR gaming but at a good price.
I want a gaming tv I was considering the QNED91. How are the black levels on this tv ?? From what I saw on YT some say is almost OLED level while others say is pretty bad ....
how about motion handling? I've hear there are motion issues with qned91 specially model number qned916qe/ ghosting and double image
I don't watch much TV during the day except during lunch time when I'm working from home so I went with the OLED. The perfect blacks are just stunning. I found the high end mini LED 75" and OLED 77" TV's were priced very similar. So price isn't an issue anymore, it's just down to personal preference.
3:51 The colours on the robots seem different on each tv?
Love this review! I perhaps have changed my mind and considering Mini LED instead of Oled.
For me still the oled is better but yes the gape is little, value for money the mini led wins , i have the sony a80j and i am happy with the picture quality and the sound also sony processing is really great..
Sony tvs are very accurate
I have the a80j as well, and I love it. I’m now looking at the lg c2 for my bedroom, possibly.
@@DJ-oe5pn I'm looking for the Sony a80k
@@santigullotta8736 I looked at that also, but my pedestal for my tv to sit on can’t be over 30 inches for the stand. So I’m limited on how wide the tv stand can be, so that knocks the a80j out of the running.
@@santigullotta8736 sorry, I meant the a 80k, lol
I wonder then how the qned fairs against a qdoled?
I am almost convinced to go with mini led now. What an amazing video. Loved it.
Lol personally me and the wife are constantly dimming our TVs. We have a LG GX and rarely do I think it needs higher brightness. Just yesterday she was saying that the next bedroom TV will be required to be able to almost turn off the screen when dimmed all the way down.
It all depends on your environment, my house has so much luminosity during the day, I absolutely need a Mini LED
What's the mini led LG like compared to Sony X95K would ya say?
Soooo confused! I remember the days when your only decision before buying a new TV was :
Black & white or Colour picture. Got a plasma just before they stopped making them and now screen burn is tempting me to upgrade. Was going to wait for Lg G2 on black Friday or C2 oor Mini Led ooor......
Or just get a C1 for dirt cheap, or a Mini LED on display clearance. I got lucky getting a 65in QN90A Mini LED flagship samsung display unit for $831 after cashback/discounts. The new QN90B 2022 replacement is retailing for $2300 right now and rtings like the QN90A better.
I was sold to c1, got a 48 for the ps5 and last month I gave my panasonic 50 plasma the retirement and replaced it with a 65" c1, I'm sold, it's awesome and they're cheaper than ever... Grab one and you won't be disappointed...
Damn it! I thought I was sold on the OLED but this video changed literally everything. Now I'm going to go back and double check because the prices from a G2 OLED to a QNED that is actually slightly bigger, is MASSIVE by about 400%. $4,800 for a G2 OLED and only $1,600 for a QNED. Guess I should go QNED and just be happy with such a massive savings.
for sure not worth that extra price
The detail and accuracy when showing the water and the road make the QNED seem even better. I already liked it more before seeing this because I went into BestBuy to see them in person and the QNED TV has better viewing angles without getting dark since in a living room, not everybody gets to sit directly in front of the TV and some are at more of an angle. Plus the QNED is $400 less for the same size and specs. (65")
I bought a qned85 for my bright living room 3 months ago and I am well pleased and would buy it again. I'm not anti oled but this just made more sense for my situation. I might get an oled one day for my bedroom but I have a Sony x930e in it and it's too good of a tv to replace.
I ended up moving my x930e to my vacation condo and bought a 48" oled for my bedroom. The oled is nice but I still prefer the qned85 to it. The colors do seem more realistic than the oled. But who knows what I might want 5 to 10 years down the road. Tech is changing so fast.
Personally, I think both of these technologies are excellent.
Struggling to decide between the C1 or Samsung QN95A, every video I watch sways me to the other.
Go with the C1 and dont look back.
what about the burn in issue. Does it exist in mini led?
thank you a lot, im going to buy the LG 65qned91 and im now 100% sure this tv willl be the right choose for me and my family-livingroom. great comparison!
Great video. For hundreds of video reviews and comparisons that I watched and thousands of comments and opinions that I read for weeks, I finally made my decision.
This seals the deal on a QNED85 over a C2 for me. I won't mind saving the money.
Did you get it, thinking the same myself
OLED is best for me any way. The only downside is the burn in... The contrast and color result of the video clip is just about how good you set your tv up. No way to compare on that aspect.
You forgot the brightness and the difference in deeper blacks in 19/20 percent
Oled is not ideal for brighter rooms.
@@misterlexx2721 It depends on the people : For instance , I hate intense brightness on any screen, including my Oled TV, which makes it never displayed at full brightness
@@zigpop67Same here. My 2019 LG 55E9 bedroom tv reaches 412 cd/m² in SDR for a 10% window. 248 cd/m² sustained 100% window. This is more than enough for SDR. My E9 with HDR 10% window reaches over 812 cd/m² and sustained 100% window 139 cd/m². I do a lot of youtube and web surfing with it connected to my PC Radeon 6900XT HDMI for gaming. Never had a issue of burn in. The contrast is capped at 85 and brightness at 50. I have to enable Eco mode lower the brightness because videos and white text are so bright it blurs your eyes.
cant we just have both. LOL. For daytime viewing in a bright room i like the mini led for brightness and reflection handling. I saw the LG in store and it looks superb for the price point. Now at night time if watching a movie i personally like to see it in the proper dark room setting with no lights on to give me the experience. And for that OLED is just amazing. The again the ABL is an issue for me with OLED. I do agree miniled is close enough and its good enough for me but I have to see LGs processing this year with the new QNED90 of 2022. This is a great video and honestly there needs to be an update once the new QNEDS come out later this year. Great job!
That's what I'm saying
How is it for off axis viewing? Can it match oled?
@@kingkobra1956 I mean it’s close enough except the fact that whatever blooming the tv expels will be seen more at an angle. There’s no way around blooming with and led tv. It just depends how much there is on ur panel. To me it doesn’t bother me and it’s better than regular LED.
Dude hisense and tcl gonna make the best TV with this technology
@@alanclark9000 let’s hope so I like it a lot my friend!
So by looking at this video, i can also say it is better to take miniled monitor like Samsung neo g9 instead of Samsung oled g9 ?
when is your S95b review coming out?
Didn't mention the much better response times on oled or the terrible color smearing on va panels.
This is an IPS panel so doesn't have smearing like VA.
I am trying to decide between the 77" C2 OLED and the 75" QNED, this video really helped and affirmed my pros/cons list for me.
I'm not sure the OLED and it's extra 2 inches is worth the extra £1300 asking price given how good the MiniLED technology looks and performs against it.
I have a G1. I got it for all the extra features it has for OLED, including the usual OLED black levels. Other than that the G-series comes with a 5 year warranty so I shouldn’t have to worry about burn-in or other mechanical issues until I’m ready to upgrade again.
im scared as hell about burn in on Oled since i want to buy to play games and some have static hud.
Update: I bought the 75" QNED and very happy with it.
i came across similar decision as yours
@@sylvainh2o Burn in is really not an issue anymore hell with all the steps LG has taken you have to go out of your way to get it.
We just purchased the 55” LG QNED 85 at an outrageous price here in Canada($798.00). We hope we made the right decision. We upgraded from the 2014 Samsung H6. Couldn’t pass up that price as it was $1698CDN original price. Haven’t received it yet as it is coming from another store. Hopefully it I’ll be big step up from our old one.
I also just picked up the 55 qned85 from Costco in Canada during the blowout pricing. I specifically chose it for our gaming room because I didn't want to deal with potential Oled burn in. Have to say, it's a pretty great picture. Once you dial in the settings based on your lighting environment I think you will be happy. I'm sure there are better pictures to be had but I am more than happy with the picture I am getting and don't think the price can be beat.
3:53 - that difference in colours between these 2 TVs is mindblowing
Noticed it too, one is green while the other is red orange. Which one is the right one.
That's a huge difference. How the hell does this happen
@@halo-halo9244 I would assume miniLED looks more accurate, since WOLED TVs have problems with color dillution.
@@Joejoe-dd2sc Probably the game is randomizing the colors. Surely it can't be the tv's.
I think the game randomises the npc colors since they arent pre rendered cut scenes but happen in real time
3:52 why is the robot on the left 2 different colours
My LG MiniLED turned up today. Very excited!
Just ordered the LG 86" mini-led QNED. Your video gives me hope I made the right choice.
How are the blacklevels in your QNED? Are you satisfied?
not having anything else but quantum dot Samsungs in the rest of the house all I can say is they are definitely better. It must be because those are area lit and not with mini-leds. I think if a person just isn't a OLED acolyte this will be an excellent way to get a much brighter picture with still excellent black level detail.@@unscripted3209
Would love to know if the blacks in a very dark room look good. My main concern was light flicker in the black bars when watching a movie.
I'm in the market for a new TV, I love OLED but scared of burn in, but I'm not too familiar with the QD-Oled or QNED. Need to do more research on it.
Freeze the video at 3:44. Notice that the OLED shows lighting on the round duct that is not show on the mini LED. Next, freeze at 3:59. Something isn't right here. The robot on the left side of the pictures is different colors. Also, the bottom of the screens, the OLED screen shows the blue light reflected of the ground and MINI LED shows red reflected from the ground.
Now check the background. the area above left robot has more detail in the OLED than the MINI LED. The MINI led is more washed out. But now look at the area above the robot in the middle. The details in the MINI LED look washed out, but then some details on the OLED look missing. In particular, look at the 'light mound', and the grill vent above the light mound.
Seems like there are trade offs. I wonder if the differences that I see are: The frames aren't exact. (color differences)? And maybe we are completely discounting the software rendering done by each tv.
Anyways, good comparison. I'm leaning MINI LED. I think OLED shows more details in most situations, but I'm leaning toward MINI LED because I want to use the tv as a monitor, and I fear image retention.
Also, there are other noticeable differences between the two screens on the other scenes, but this is enough for now. Thanks!
Thickness of the tv is main concerned compare to the thickness of tv bezel.What about the weight of each tv?
I feel like while oled has infinite contrast and deepest of blacks, oleds have to be maxed out almost just to brighten the image especially in brighter rooms. I have an LG CX and I am having to push the brightness during the day, when a miniled doesnt have to be pushed super hard to achieve a satisfactory brightness level. If you can own both technologies, then that will give you the best of both worlds and you wont have to push your oled as hard, but also have access to infinite contrast.
Also, very Timely video
Just dont cheap out and buy the G2 or even better the upcoming G3 which is far brighter. Then it would be interresting to compare 😇
The input looks so negligible. But what about the GTG response time. Has that been tested on both to compare?
This is the best comparison video out there, thanks so much for making it. I have made my choice and will go for the QNED 65 inch from LG, Samsung was out of play for me from the start and i always had great experiences with lg displays. Once my next paycheck comes ill pick one up for myself!
I just bought LG QNED 55 inch. Image quality beyond description in words. Seeing is believing!
I go with miniLED for gaming because of the dimming issues with OLED!
but I was curious to know the response time between them because there's is a noticeable difference
@The Zerastora the extra judder in OLED TV is due to the very fast response time
What’s up with the difference in colors on the robots at 3:52?
There's some randomization in the colors from the game itself, since the cutscenes are in real time
I’m a big fan of Quantum dots mini Leds but was thinking of moving up to Oleds but after seeing your videos now I’m not too sure if going to Oled is considered moving up. Lol 😂
What is the American version of that LG QNED?
Thank you
I opted for the Samsung Q90B as it comes in a 43” model and I use it as my computer monitor. Blacks and colors are amazing. It’s super bright, and I never have to worry about burn-in or dimming features since I’m using it as a PC monitor. Also, the antireflective treatment on this particular model is amazing. The screen looks pitch black in even in daytime when the room is bright, I can barely see my reflection in it, yet it doesn’t have that dull matte screen look either.
Do you have any DSE on yours?
I have LG 65 C2 OLED in my room. I’m really considering an 86 Mini LED for my man cave. It looks pretty good as well.
Interesting-how do you find the operating system?
I have the LG UR81 a great picture and sound (I no longer use a soundbar at 63yrs and with a hearing issue!) but the operating system 😢I hardly have any apps I deleted most but it’s quite laggy all the time 😮 it’s a shame because the tv is perfect apart from that.
I was wondering how it performs on these two tv’s?
Thanks for posting
What makes the qned mini led beat the oled. What if I buy the qned mini led 4k tv. Is it ok
Certainly food for thought. Thanks for an informative A-B comparison video, which may have persuaded me that mini-LED is worth considering again.
i really thought the oled was the best out of qned and qled. in a gaming prespective....what's your thought?
I have LG G1 Evo 77 inch ... - thats a brilliant TV, After this video I will go for the LG QNED91 65 ,,, as I like the LG interface ... excellent .. thank you so much ..
. . . Great work! Thank you! Well done! The first comparison between these two systems I run into! Greetings from Germany.
3:53 why different colors?
I am leaning towards OLED but I might pick up the best Mini LED TV and compare side by side and return the worst. I am coming from C9 OLED and loooove the deep blacks and awesome contrast. However, the LG G2 is far brigther than the C2 and might have beat that Mini LED in brightness :P I am learning more towards QD-OLEDs tho, depending on price, we will see. Sony A95K is the dream but expensive 😒
QD OLED have bad black levels. The quantum dot colour filter isn't 100% transparent so black levels are slightly higher.
Plus the QD panels are the same panel as the C2 running Sony or Samsung tech on top.
I've got a G2 and I can say you will be happy with it. I had the TV in this video and I'm convinced he's bias. The blooming was horrible. Yes it's smaller thanks to mini led but it's still a halo around bright things. The intro to altered carbon on Netflix really shows it's failings. The black room with neon eyes of soldiers is what made me sit up and go wtf?
Then I went down the rabbit hole of test patterns and hated the TV more and more. Returned it and got the G2. Much better
I just returned my c2 for a qn90b and holy cow it is so much better. HDR is 100% different on mini-led, its mind blowing. Even black level is just as good. Never going back to OLED.
@@michaelscott466 You must not be as sensitive to it as others. Testing shows the QN90B has blooming and black levels are still not true black.
It's a bright TV so in a bright room will look better next to an OLED but close the curtains and OLED still wins. But to each his own, I'm glad you're happy. I don't buy samsung since they refuse to support dolby vision HDR which is the best HDR by far
@@sholmesbrown It had blooming issues on one of the updates. Mine has almost zero, 99% of the time zero blooming. Also it is true blacks as the backlight turns off, it is OLED black level (the vast majority of the time) side by side with an OLED you would see no difference in black level performance. Zero.
@@michaelscott466 I owned both MiniLED and OLED. OLED still wins. Until MicroLED is affordable OLED will always win.
Watching your excellent overview of the LG Mini LED on my MacBook Pro Mini LED and feeling some display inception.
I’m really on the fence about which one to get price is no issue I won’t be gaming just looking for the best quality for movies what do you guys think I should get
I just got a C1 yesterday and returned it today. Picture is far too dark. The best thing about it is the motion clarity and response time but not enough for me to nurse the tv and put up with the constant dimming of the screen. ( I know you can change this in the service menu, but it's too much of a pain in the ass)
Picture is far to dark? Maybe you should have turned up the brightness a little. That may have made all the difference in the world. I never have a "constant" dimming of the screen on my C1.
@@SteveSmith-cm1hx I have both c1 and qn900 and somehow lg c1 is to bright to me in hdr but qn is perfectly fine even tho its way brighter. I think its oled thing
Did u turn off the energy saving settings?
@@he.lena21 Its the first thing I do with every tv I use. I also tried different settings
Is there a good mini LED tv from Sony?
Review coming soon!
@@allthingstech I'll watch it! In any case I'll wait the next black friday to buy it. Thanks a lot! 😄
Comparing it to c1 and the price? Which do you think has a better value?
Should I buy a Sony x90j or TCL C825 ???
I'm need it for gaming and tv shows 😊✋🏼
I really want a smaller mini led tv. I bought a 42” a90k oled for gaming. 55 is just to big for me
i know i'm late to this, but would really appreciate a reply. i'm hard of hearing so i watch everything with subtitles, i have read that they can sooner or later cause burn in on oled tv's, especially if they are bright white, which i need them to be. im between getting an lg c1 or c2, but now i.m thinking the LG miniLED might be a safer bet longterm. any thoughts, advice, recommendations? thanks
Thank you very much for this review been thinking for weeks about get the c2 but didn't want to pay the price but after seeing this video I am definitely going for the Qned which is £600 cheaper happy days 😁
The qned 91 has IPS or VA panel؟؟؟
Got to be honest, never been a fan of LG TV’s - I think Mini LED does have some impressive attributes, but it’s OLED for me, especially the Panasonic 2000 series. I pulled out of buying a JZ2000 at the last minute earlier this year…but intend to get the LZ2000 as soon as it’s available in my local store.
LG manufacturers OLED panels for every make of TV. So whether you get a Sony or Panasonic OLED, it’s an LG panel underneath.
Hi, it has Dolby Atmos ? you didn't say nothing about it. Sound is very, very important
How about a video about why OLED/QD-OLED TVs can't beat Micro LED TVs? Since Micro LED is the best money can buy.
Thanks for your video and your work. You said that the blacks are close to the blacks on the OLED. But you never showed images side by side wich are mostly black, like stars in the dark night sky. Seems like you wanted to avoid that 🧐
I got mine qned mini led and its stunning compare to image quality for the money. Bright room performance, view from the different angles and much more you get just about half of the price.
I ordered a few hours ago the LG 916 QNED mini LED, it was in Germany in sale for just 799€ instead of 1.400€
But I was so unsure and waited and then it was sold out, but during the night did ONE popped up on Amazon for 50€ more (850€ instead of 799) and I ordered it.
But tbh, even now, I'm unsure if it was the right decision ;(
I only watch on my TV with all lights removed who may be visible in the TV, windows are completely darkened.
But currently would the LG OLED C3 (it's the best from the C series) cost around 1.600€ and I have to hope that it gets a deal in this black Friday week.
I hate this purchasing pressure, I spent days on research and are still unsure ;(
how about motion handling? I've heard there are motion issues with qned91 specially model number qned916qe/ ghosting and double image
@@PcGamingForFun i gave the TV back and waited on a good deal for the OLED c3. I paid 1499€. The CS model in 65" was last month also on sale at Amazon for"just" 1100€.
I have the "magic motion " remote control and it sucks, very hard to move, I prefer to use the arrows.
Also the German UI is very poorly translated, it's a TV from 2023 and in 2023 could you easily translate any language to German with AI, Google or deepL.
It's a shame for a TV which did official cost 3.200€.
I didn't bought a QLED mini, and many people reported screen issues, so OLED is better, but: it's a HUGE amount of money, just for movies.
@@PcGamingForFun oh if you just talk about the image, many people don't know they can disable the assistance features.
Especially "Clearview" should be disabled, it's unnormal.
I disabled all AI systems to boost the image with fake effects. That improved the quality.
Believe me, Samsung Qn90B screen beats the LG QNED screen in resolution, contrast, and screen brightness significantly, thank you
I hope to get one in the next few weeks to compare.
@@allthingstech Waiting for it
This is last years QNED91 so obvious the QN90B will be better. The QNED91 2022 version is not released yet. But how can it beat it in resolution when they are both 4K??
What is the equivalent LG QLED TV model here in the US?
Their Qned series
I'm considering it now - thanks for the video!
Now that's called a true review. Kudos!!!
Because i am using a tv as a computer monitor I decided to use a mini LED that has no burn in issues. And the black level is good enough for me
Is the LG a 2022 model or 2021? Right now I have the option to buy the LG 65 mini led 2021 for just 1045 euro. Is there a big difference between 2021 and 2022? Btw. great video! Have had a hard time, if it was worth it to get mini led.
The model is LG 65" QNED91 or LG 65QNED916PA
Also, how does it compare to Samsungs 65 neo qled?
Hey buddy I have one of each and I love both technologies.
I have CX and Q90a i played more games on mini led more shadow details more punching colors and brighter but both excellent for gaming.
I bought a 65" QNED a month back and it was replaced twice due to horrible backlight bleeding and screen flickering, finally went with the lg cs 65" OLED and it's amazing
And for the price, the QNED was £1099 and the OLED was on sale for £1250 .. so well worth the extra money
how about motion handling? I've hear there are motion issues with qned91 specially model number qned916qe/ ghosting and double image
Great comparison
Just helped me with my decision
What about viewing angles
Owned an OLED for a long time, and also bought a mini-led. I'm sold on mini led now
They’re getting better and better!
@@allthingstech for sure!
I just returned a 42" c2, was nice with video etc. but for a windows desktop it was very dull compared to my normal monitor.
Ok 👍🏾
And OLEDs burn in quickly with PC use. Mini LED never burns in, no matter what.
@@estusflask982 define quickly
@@davidc.7838 Weeks/months. Or days if you are careless.
Could be wrong but I think it's because Windows is in hd unless you're watching videos of course. It can do hdr but it's not the best. So I can see a regular monitor being better since that's what it's made for.
Question: Does Mini LED TV got image retention?
no
Thank you for this review. Is the LG QNED "91" MINI LED not available in the USA? I can't find it anywhere. If not, do you know what the USA comparable model is? Thank you.
In the US I believe it’s the LG QNED 90
@@allthingstech Thank you!
Although I enjoyed this video and other videos you have done. I would have liked to have seen some of the images from both of the tvs playing dark material. I have oled but for where its used, is perfect in my case but for a brighter a room I wouldnt buy one. But blooming is a huge annoyance amd would be even bigger now ive experienced OLED
Don't even think to get an LCD with local diming for low light rooms, it will make you want to return that TV. The blooming is really bad. I can notice blooming in a room with pretty bright lights turned on even on QN85, QN90 and QN95 Samsung TV's, on X93j from Sony, and on QNED81 and QNED91 (that one from 2021) it's even worse than what I've seen from Samsung and Sony. Though, the 50QNED81 isn't that bad, that one I might need to try in a low light room.
@@MirelRC I had a sony x900h where I now have the oled for evening viewing and its literally night and day . Could never go back to blooming now . And in my case brightness for HD viewing is set just below middle level 35 to 40 . Plenty bright enough.
@@mivanp2185 Went from x900h to LG G2 about a week ago, yeahhh i'm very happy, no more blooming
@@G-O-N-x massive improvement for sure
OLED in 65 tend to have a pink hue. Not a problem in the 77,83 sizes. One can also use the reduce blue light feature. Settings out of the box are not going to give best color results. Mini led should be very interesting, especially for larger screen sizes where costs are so high.
We can this pink hue on LG C2 to remove with color settings or this pink hue will always be?
@@vladimirshp2396 Unfortunately no. I’m not exactly sure why this occurs. I’ve read that some feel it’s the anti glare coating. Sometimes it’s more pronounced on a particular side of the screen. Not all panels have the issue - and is described as panel lottery. If it’s not visible, that panel is fine.
@@johntvedte8143 I think not everyone agrees to play this lottery
LG did great job with its 2022 QNED MiniLed models.
Thank you for all this information 🙏
I'm going for the X95K 55 inch
I notice the one thing they never mention on these reviews is colour banding.
I bought the lgc1 last year for my living room and was never completely satisfied with the picture, which I felt was quite dim.
Fast forward to a week ago and I decided to jump on a qn95a which I put in place of the oled.
Definitely brighter and much better suited for the room.
I was also annoyed that the oled protruded from the wall because of the design, the closest I could get was 100mm from the wall to the front of the screen, whereas the qn95a now sits 60 mm from the wall, giving a much sleeker look.
LG G-series is best for clean look in the living room thanks to flush wall mount
Wow glad to know you saved 40mm of space
If the tv protruded from the wall to much for you you should have went with the G series then. But as one person already said glad you saved 40mm of space.
Anyone noticing a small bubble almost looks like panel is buribg from inside out on samsungs 2022 models in your own expierence
Thanks man … outstanding info.
Insightful review. Thanks.
I would still pick the oled over mini led, I've seen them side by side and you're camera setting don't do justice because if one is brighter than other, you must have shot both tvs with different camera exposures to match what they can reproduce not a side by side take...
Also, mini led gives a smal shadow around de edge wich makes it look less sharp on the limit of the screen, beside this, they also produce blooming on dar scenes with highlights...
I can agree a little bit with the reflections and higher brightness advantage, but that's only a matter of closing the windows blinds and also I'm pretty sure most "cinema sessions" are during the night so for me that's not a deal breaker too...
Most recent films and cameras are now in hdr and Dolby vision, wich makes the higher brightness of the qned less noticeable as you measured almost the same peak brightness, higher brightness is only a plus in above aberage lit invironments like yours, but not in a way it makes a TV better just because of that...
Last but not the least, prices, LG c1s are now much cheaper and the price is on par with the qned and they're as good as new c2s...
I got a 48 c1 4 months ago just for Sim racing on the ps4, I've enjoyed it so much that only this month I couldn't pass an excellent deal for a 65 to replace my old but sill great panasonic plasma and I couldn't be more happier...
To me is oled for the win!
oled is something else brother,plesse go take a look on the new sumsung oled with the peak brighness over 1000 nit i am sure you're gonna be blown away...
there is no comparison with any tv with the back light
Oled all the way!!!
@IAlwayswin some people might get some burn in, but, for the kind of use we do at my place I doubt! Also don't have any auto dimming and colors are very accurate with right settings...
@IAlwayswin I don't avoid, I simply watch a diversity of things and that doesn't gets the burn in, do your research, extreme tests have been done without issues...
@IAlwayswin I've came from a thx certified 50" panasonic plasma that I've replaced with a 65" "highly awarded" Sony full array led x95j I got a good deal (at least I tought it was) but I had to return it due to terrible black uniformity.
I've always wanted an oled but the price tag was too high and because of this, I've searched for led alternatives.
I've seen side by side Samsung and LG mini led but they had a lot off blooming in high contrast (white on black, subtitles, etc...)
Also, the mini led doesn't perform like everyone thinks they perform, they work by zones and not individualy because that would require a lot of image processing to lit one by one, so they're basicaly like the full array that I went for.
Like you and a lot of reviewers mention, I was also worried about burn-in issues and because of that and the higher price tag I got the x95j, unfortunately it was a horrible experience.
Fortunately on the week I've return the sony I found an awesome deal for a LG C1 and it's by far a better tv, and I don't even have to turn brightness for more than 60 on sdr contents, also, like I've mention on previous post, oleds have been tested in extreme conditions I will never use mine without burn in issues.
Sound on the C1 is also better than the Sony and it doesn't loose brightess around the edges of the screen like the led screens.
Before you judge me, I'll let you know who I am, I'm a professional photographer that works and calibrates my monitors for more than 10 years, I'm a well informed person and I know how image should look on a TV and that was why I kept my plasma for such long time, it didn't have any rival until oled came up...
This is my opinion and it's like the iPhone vs android preference, you have your opinion, I respect but you must respect mine.
I already have 2 oleds at home, 48" for my ps5 sim rig and the 65" on the living room, I'm happy with them, you won't change my mind...
Peace! ✌️
Excellent stuff was going to get the mini LED from LG last year but since I have the sm9000 I decided to try OLED man mini LEDs still look good
Why can miniLED not get black as an OLED ?? I mean lights off is lights off or not ?
LEDs are a lot (many 1000’s of times) bigger than pixels
@@allthingstech but off is still off or not ? If I watch a movie with black bars the bars should be black ;).
Another YT Videos with the X93L says blacks are black and indeed a planet in dark space has dark space around the glowing planet. But never trust TH-cam 😅
@@RyoBLN leds have to create black so the black you see is the led on
@@RyoBLN there will be dimming zones and the more of these then the better the black level
I choosen mini LED LCD for: brighter image, no risk of burned logos and lower price.
Great content. Thanks 👍🏽🤙🏽
Mini-LED is the way to go, until Micro-LD technology becomes affordable for normal consumers. OLEDs also have a TON of issues you can't avoid like burning logos, etc... and they're too delicate to my taste. I'm buying a 55inch version of this QNED Mini LED tomorrow!