1st Drive Tesla FSD v12.5 Part 1
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- This is a limited release and not many people have this version. My Mind is Blown and this version of Tesla FSD is Passenger Approved. This time FSD v12.5 is really impressive. This is Part 1 to keep the video somewhat short. Thank you for watching.
Did my first 40 minute work commute this morning with 12.5. It fixes every issue 12.3.6 had except for sometimes driving too slow. I did have to disengage for route disagreements but other than that completely hands free. It’s great.
Tbh if you were sitting in the back you would not notice the speed
@@paulmeynell8866 Very true but where I live driving 35 in a 45 will make some people mad and that’s what it does on roads near my house. Meanwhile it drives 10 over in my neighborhood.
“Passenger approved” good test. Cruise control hunting in the 70’s, and hybrid motor transition early 2000’s had issues and were fixed. My what a time to be alive!
12.5 is extremely impressive. I fricken love it and makes me even more excited for what’s to come going forward
Tesla investor without a driving license here. Really appreciate these videos. Mindblowing how good it's getting. Keep it up!
Me too! The Future is Bright!
Soon you wont need a license!
@@andreaschristensen123 at some point it will be just an ID :)
@@TotalTesla Haha I'll likely still need my valid driver's license to drive my MYP for fun.. as an example: th-cam.com/video/D_45EO5BauU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KvrAVsnx1TnWrVNx we were at speed of 36mph; all in entering, during and exiting a sharp left turn, followed by an immediate curve to the right, when urgently clearing an intersection safely under an unexpected yellow.
My MYP went directly to FSD v12.5 from FSD v12.3.6, but I rather not be caught without sunglasses on a bright sunny day just to achieve hand-free FSD operation; awaiting FSD v12.5.x improvements.
So, this clip th-cam.com/video/l87gU_pGP5U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZmiB-xU6yumLYNVs is my first drive in the dark with FSD v12.5 (version number visible on the display) installed in my MYP on 7/24/2024. And the day before operating in the dark, FSD v12.5 did a stormy drive th-cam.com/video/jCT8NVfyOQA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RVMqUCvSl9-IxzsF in the evening all hand-free without sunglasses. Along the way, FSD v12.5 seriously hesitated at one intersection with flashing red light during the storm.
And then yesterday, FSD v12.5 got honked at th-cam.com/video/lteUrbp02Mo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EHXVa4b_2-CEmzT8 in a tiny Georgia town for hesitating to turn right on yellow in a dedicated right-turn lane with only a Yield Sign; but FSD v12.5 came to a complete stop!
All things considered, and at the risk of being accused of making excuses for FSD's shortcomings, I still think my 2024 MYP (HW4) did reasonably well.
@@TuneupMagic 12.5.1 has been released so hope I'm not waiting long for bug fixes.
Please try that again in the dark when it's raining and foggy. I'd like to see how they've improved their inclement driving algorithms.
Sounds good. I'll have to get some night driving in soon.
@@TheJohn8765 I’ve driven in the rain with 12.5. No issues at all.
Great video and presentation/style - concise and to the point - thanks!
Thank you! Part 2 I'll edit tonight and upload asap.
well commented ...with real added value compared to other TH-camrs! ...keep it up!
Thanks for the kind words. I'll remember this when I make more. Part 2 will be edited tonight.
4:55 to 5:10. Perfectly executed entry to the left turn lane by FSD. It Entered a designated left turn lane at the opening (gap between the solid yellow lines and solid while line.) It did not cross any solid line.
This was awesome, just mind-blowing progress. Like your style of presentation and commentary a lot. Your channel deserves to explode.
I appreciate the kind words.
A few things I noticed this morning -
1) on a two lane road without lane markings or other traffic, it wanted to be too near to the center of the road
2) doesn't seem to want to exceed the speed limit (or get close to it in some cases) without me encouraging it with the accelerator each time.
3) lane planning wasn't too good, for an upcoming right it stayed in the center lane, and for an upcoming straight ahead stayed in the right only lane.
Other than the above, very smooth and an incremental improvement on the previous version
I agree about the speed accelerating in auto speed. Need to get it a little faster over the limit 3-7 mph depending on traffic. I had one issue with the wrong lane but that will be ironed out. Keep disengage and send An audio bug fix report back.
@@TotalTesla it messed up @ 10:08 almost went into the divider lol and went over the solid white lines.
@@billybobbob3003 I went over the line again yesterday.
Great video . And it looked to drive better than most of my friends!
@@paulmeynell8866 it felt more human like than ever.
@@TotalTesla I’m in the uk and so hoping we get it over here eventually. It is just mind blowing how difficult a problem driving is , and to think we have nearly taught a computer how to do it.
So glad you got 12.5! Watching now…
@@nowteslafy thank you!
At first slowly, then suddenly. People have no idea what’s coming.
I think for Summon and Banish Tesla needs to provide some extra insurance that we can buy that handles any cases where nobody was in the car. I am not sure if my normal insurance covers that and I also dont want to take on that risk if I am not in control and not fully covered.
Legally you are in control of the vehicle, if it crashes into something it's your responsibility no matter if you're in the vehicle or not
'Normal' insurance is still applicable
@@neilkelsey1762 thanks for the clarification. I would still prefer to purchase some kind of extra Tesla insurance just or those situations, especially while the feature is unproven. It will also make sure Tesla is not releasing it half baked. With FSD I am at least monitoring and can take action immediately but with Summon you are basically totally helpless.
It isn't released or half baked - it's FSD 'supervised'
You are supervising it, you are responsible, no additional insurance is needed
When complete FSD is released it's a different matter, but that situation is currently hypothetical
@@neilkelsey1762 I am not talking about FSD, I was using it as an example of where I am in control. I am talking about Summon/Banish where I am likely not even seeing the car and I am certainly not in it to "supervise" it. That is the whole point of Summon/Banish, there is no "supervise" when I am standing on some curb waiting for the car to pick me up.
So the releasing it half baked was in reference to those Summon features that are coming with 12.5 or 12.6
The insurance for summon/banish should be included in the subscription, just like the full FSD insurance later.
Looking forward to seeing FSD videos in the UK
@@BossMax511 that would be nice too!
I can't wait for it to come to the UK. I don't think the driving on the left will be much of an issue for the FSD stack.
I like to look at the road and look at the screen back and forth because I want to know the FSD's intentions. I am using 12.3.6 since we don't have any updates yet, but is this possible? I am getting a strike every time I look at the screen and try to read the small print of the warnings it shows.
@@PatrickHoodDaniel my luck with prior versions I would have sunglasses on but I wear reg prescription glasses 98% of the time or just know when it beeps at you to tug the wheel etc. If you have to disengage do it to save yourself from a strike.
@@TotalTesla Good tip. Thanks!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤❤❤ i subscribed
Thank You!
I was thinking, no wonder they haven't added full reverse yet... there's probably 10,000x times as much training data on forward driving. Good drive! Try some left turns onto manchester at rush hour.
@@JoshFlorii Yes next time I'll get Manchester left turn during lunch time or rush hour. I'd like to get into other areas like downtown and the airport. I need to finish editing part 2 tonight and upload. Thanks for watching.
Got the new update to FSD 12.5 last night. I currently do not select the Auto-Speed option as I like to have the ability to throttle the speed up or down for weather or situational issues (i.e., slow down when passing an emergency vehicle on another lane or adjoining shoulder).
Good way to play with it. Let me know your experience over the next few days. I'll have part 2 up tonight at some point. Thanks again.
1:40 to 1:45. Great execution of passing a bicyclist. Don’t try to pass the bicyclist with little clearance or squeeze them off the road. In California it explicitly states to give bicyclist 3 feet of clearance. Stay behind the bicyclist until it is safe to pass.
Some states make an exception for slow-moving bicycles or other obstructions in your travel lane. In Florida, for example, you may cross the lines when an obstruction exists, making driving to the left of the highway’s center necessary. When a bicyclist is traveling so slowly as to constitute an obstruction, a motorist may cross the center line in a no-passing zone if the way is clear and it is safe to do so.
The bell and the music are a lot louder than the commentary. Was having to adjust the volume a few times while watching
🎉🎉🎉We’re getting close to Robo Taxi 🚀🚀🚀!!! I can’t wait to get it in my 2023 MYLR🤗
This is perfect
Thank You!
FSD should eventually be "DMV driving test examiner" approved. FSD should pass the local DMV driving test just like every human driver!
Congratulations.
You'll probably grow your channel a lot once this gets shared.
This is sick
@@sypen1 definitely living in the future. Imagine 6 months to a year from now? A year ago I said the same thing.
@@TotalTesla yeah and with all the new compute coming online soon
'24 M3 HW4, got V12.5 last night 7/24).
Also St. Louis
That's great! I am part of the St. Louis Tesla Enthusiast group.
What camera are you using and what mount? Looking for something sturdy without vibration for the glass in my Model Y. Nice video! Subscribed!
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@@LearntodriveTesla using a DJI Action 3.I have 2 now so I'd like to incorporate both cameras.
Good video 👍🏻
Thank you!
Does it recognize green arrows? When you're at a red light while also having a green turning arrow.
Now the question is... Should I buy the Y now or wait for the Juniper?
@@lvrsvid what are you driving now? If you are currently driving a Tesla then wait it out. If you qualify for tax credits and 1.99% financing then you can't beat what they have now. If you have FSD now you can transfer it too. My 2023 MYP I'm very happy with. The deals right now are crazy good. Also note New Model 3 didn't really go up in price. And Tesla will always have demand levers especially at the end of month and end of the quarter.
@@TotalTesla A 2016 Grand Caravan that's in and out of the shop under warranty but still annoying. I put an order in for the MYLR but had to back out because of a trip we're taking next week. I'm either going to order when we get back or wait until hopefully December/January for the update. Hard choice because I want it now but I really don't want to regret the decision next year with upgraditis.
do you think it can drive 100% by itself with FSD 14?
@@jn3750 they need to solve many one off scenarios. Over the next few updates tackle backing up summon and banish. They need to read all signs, school zones, and know how to react when police, fire or other emergencies. But once they complete the Highway stack and parking lots, it could be on the fast track to implement the other obstacles. It's going to be exciting now. As long as we don't see 2 steps forward and 1 step backwards approach since I've been testing since Oct 2021.
No.
@@lashlarue59 why
@@jn3750 If by drive by itself you mean with 0 intervention; like the so-called robotaxi then I say NO. FSD works a lot better than it used to and I've used it a lot up to version 12.3.6 but it will never be able to handle situations that require actual human reasoning. For example I was using FSD the other day and while it was driving road repair workers were putting up barricades to block the road. The car couldn't proceed and it just sat there. I took control, gave it a new course and away it went. BUT what if I was a 5 year old and the car was taking me to school. Would you expect a 5 year old to take control of the car and make it reroute to the destination? Going down mapped roads is one thing but reasoning? No. What if I had a heart attack in the car, would the car know enough to reroute to the hospital or even just stop and call police? No. These are the same reasons plus more are why to robotaxi isn't going to work either. The machine can't reason; this isn't artificial intelligence its machine learning which is at best automation and automation is not intelligence. I think FSD will get better and remove more and more of the mundane parts of driving but 100% antonymous? No.
Shouldn’t have turned on “minimal lane changes”. Let it do its thing to see if it’s making lane changes when it shouldn’t be.
Good point.
Did they bring back double pull in 12.5? Losing cruise control was a dealbreaker for me.
@@notsure4907 you can change that in the menu. I have it on 1 pull. But habit may cause me to hit it 2x lol .
@@TotalTesla i’m on 12.3.6 and in the menu it’s locked out, you cannot change it to double pull.
@@notsure4907 go to the autopilot menu tab. In order to use double pull you'll need to be out of Full Self-Driving (Supervised) you can change to to TACC or Auto steer (beta)
Passenger approved ✅
Yeah good start we will see how things smooth out over time.
Can't wait to get on the CT and test here in test/use here in rural Texas more.
NOW it's beta. Everything before has been really "alpha". We're all basically beta testers :D - When it doesn't need supervision, it's done imo.
Let's see where we are at by the end of the year. Holiday update will be big for FSD.
With all due respect, 12.5 is not "hands free". It is "steering wheel nag free" (as long as FSD can see your eyes). Proof that it is not yet hands free can be seen whenever you engage FSD, a notification pops up on the screen that says, "Keep hands on the wheel". This is because 12.5 is still Level 2. When it gets to Level 3, then it is "hands free". Yes, a lot of beta testers are misunderstanding the "no more steering wheel nag" to mean that FSD is now hands free, but it's not, and honestly, they should know better. BTW, I asked a Tesla employee this "hands free" question, and they agree with what I said above. So I would defer to Tesla on this one, and explain it accurately to your viewers so they are not misinformed.
This version sure looks good 👍
@@balaji-kartha promising.
Still waiting on 12.4.x for my hardware 3.5 (?) cars. When will a version 12.4.x or 12.5.x roll out to my cars?
@@jasonberger3227 I believe Tesla is optimizing H4 cars first then it will make it to H3. As for time who really knows. Give it a..."2 weeks" as Elon has said.
12.4.x is done... no further rollouts... you'll get 12.5.x after they optimize for HW3.
@@lancejones4636 So in other words people who weren't getting any upgrades anyhow are now going to have to wait for upgrades (which they never got) plus at least a partial code rewrite for HW3 cars which are the vast majority of Tesla's. I wouldn't hold my breath.
You might want to use a larger font and different color for the title on the video thumbnail. It's hard to read.
@@Resist4 check out my video uploading soon. I think you'll approve. Part II.
10:05 This is highway so it might be old stack but it could have staged better here
I think you on I picked up on the same issue. That was a really late maneuver to get out of the exit lane. I would say - not passenger approved for that one part.
Yes still the old stack next 12.5.x will have Full stack city and highway. No glasses and CT added. Per Elon so we will see. Looks promising now.
@@TotalTesla if we had two Teslas on FSD, same setting running the same route. How similar do you think the results would be? I’m out in St Charles and have had some odd issues with the software not handling maintaining the lane when making a left turn (to left turn lanes), issues with lines widening either due to an intersection or adding a left hand turn lane and the Tesla shifts left versus holding course to stay in the properly lane.
이 미친 장난감을 미국 어른들은 왜 안사....바보 들 아냐?
Next level really should be actually reading signs… forget auto parking and banish they should focus on feature complete actual driving first.
Like school zone speed limits 😉
Timestamps on where disengagemnts are would be appreciated. Anyhow, hope you have a blast with 12.5
There were no disengagements. This by far is a game changer and I've been critical. I'll have more with part 2.
Lol
@@TotalTesla lmao , you think fsd13 is the catalyzer for robotaxi
Only on HW4 cars as of 7/25
Also, here you can stop the turn on red.
Stop then turn right on red lights.
@@guy7622 it will go right in red unless the sign is posted. I haven't come up to a red arrow but I know what you're talking about.
Huh. 10:08 is a bit sketchy. It made the lane change but a bit late. A real driver would have seen the solid white line sooner and changed lanes sooner.
Any challenging points in the drive? This was hardly a step above autopilot, basically autopilot with a few turns. Straight line, highway, no weavy roads, no difficult traffic interactions, no busy city intersections with pedestrians/congestion, etc. This type of video is misleading as FSD has been able to perform this sufficiently for the -EIGHT- years that Elon falsely claimed FSD L5 existed.
When was the last time have you been behind the wheel of a Tesla? Which model do you own?
@@TotalTesla Are you going to take FSD into a dense urban environment with a ton of pedestrians, congestion, and torturous roads? Windy mountains? Odd backroads with bizarre Y junctions? FSD 12.5 so far looks like it's no better than FSD 12.3.6, 12.4 as far as disengagements per mile - about every 190 miles you are forced to disengage to avoid killing someone, serious injury, felony traffic activity, etc. It's nice that you pulled a sub 100 mile drive on easy roads without critical disengagements, but it shows the viewer nothing at all that is remarkable.
@@happyfunnyfoo yes I'll be going into other more dense areas. Hopefully this weekend. Thanks for watching!
-Start the drive
-Do the intro
-Contiue on
We re here to see the car drive, nobody wants to watch a 1 minute intro with no driving.
@@lucadellasciucca967 I'll remember that. Thanks.
Awesome video but lose the music.
@@parkersmith885 well I'm trying to figure out do people want a shorter video then there would be no music. There was a lot of content plus I have part 2 to edit tonight. It would have been over 25 minutes if I didn't speed up those parts. No one has time for me rambling on that long and they would stop watching? I added music at the end to signal the end of the video. Thanks for watching.
@@TotalTesla feel free to upload non-sped up content, we'll speed it up and play some music in the background if we want to :)
And it's not like you're obliged to ramble all the time, just let it drive. I think many FSD viewers like seeing all the details and also like the ASMR effect when the car is driving without additional commentary.
For example, the situation at 10:07 seemed pretty dangerous, but easy to miss because the video is sped up.
All in all, good work, keep it going.
I for one actually loved the music ❤🎉
@@FunkyEmulator there's a balance. Depends on what's happening in the drive. I think if the video is over a certain amount of time people get bored. I'll work on good value. I appreciate the feedback.
@@josefmarchesi8704 glad you enjoyed it.
Dies in HW3
Hope not. I have faith.
All you have to do is buy a brand new car; what's the problem? Also don't forget that HW5 or whatever they call it is on the way and Tesla doesn't seem to be down that whole backward compatibility thing so don't put away your wallet 🙂
@@lashlarue59 did anyone listened to X spaces today? Many of the FSD OG's and Elon have stated they are optimizing FSD v12.5 for H3. I heard a good analogy from Bearded Tesla Guy it's like watching 1080P vs 4K. 1080P is still good enough to have a great view of what you're watching. There are more H3 cars in the road than H4 or AI4. So if they want to have a Robo tax capable car they will need to have H3 work.
@@TotalTesla Depending on who you believe there are 400,000 people who have purchased FSD. The vast majority have never received any upgrades beyond 12.3.6. This means that a small percentage of that 400,000 (basically people with brand new cars) can even use 12.5 and a tiny number of that small number have even received it. That means the vast overwhelming majority have received nothing in terms of product upgrades and will not for a long time while that software is modified to work on the majority of cars. It takes some balls to alienate almost half a million people who paid at least 8K a head for a product where they are getting no support. This is like Microsoft refusing to support users that haven't purchased a brand new version of their products; even though all their customers purchased support. Luckily I'm only a subscriber so I can just cancel my subscription and maybe try it again in a couple years. But I'm sure there will be new, new hardware non support excuses at that time too. You know some of those HW3 cars are only 7-8 months old. I would be PISSED!