Think You Know This Trope? You Might Be Surprised!
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In this video, we dive into the "Planet of the Hats" trope and its impact on worldbuilding and storytelling. Explore how this trope affects realism and complexity in fictional worlds, often leading to cultural stereotyping and missed opportunities for rich narratives.
We compare successful examples like Star Wars and Game of Thrones with less successful ones like Jupiter Ascending and Battlefield Earth to understand why some worlds feel immersive while others fall flat. Discover the balance between realism and suspension of disbelief, and how complexity versus simplicity in storytelling influences audience engagement.
Learn how to embrace diversity in worldbuilding without sacrificing focused themes, and how to navigate the tension between innovation and tradition. We also discuss the importance of cultural sensitivity and the role of archetypes in crafting engaging narratives.
Uncover strategies for creating intriguing and complex worlds, such as using planetary variations and geological time periods, and explore Brandon Sanderson's method of changing key elements to introduce uniqueness. Whether you're a writer or a worldbuilder, this video offers valuable insights into overcoming the challenges of the "Planet of the Hats" trope.
Blumbo the Magnificent caused me to realized that I have in fact humaned. By humaning, I have made a mistake in saying that it is the axial tilt instead of saying it's the axial procession. A process that influences the axial tilt through gravitational forces. So for Earth it happens to be our moon and our sun who's causing the seasonal parties that we all enjoy (or don't enjoy). Anyways, hope that helps!
I don't know if I'm just misreading you but procession is also really dependant on Jupiter's gravitational forcing. LOVE precesSION 💜
Your interaction with your wife was so wholesome I immediately had to like
What's your favorite trope?
Really fun and well put video! Id recommend the oblisik gate series for more, 'one or two things are different but boy do they matter' type world building and story
I've never heard of that series. Thanks for the recommendation!
Do you mean the Broken Earth trilogy by N.K. Jemisin? Book two is Obelisk Gate
The algorithm finally doing its job, great vid man (and hair)
Appreciate the compliment! I've got more to come. If you have any suggestions or ideas just hit me up.
dang homie, keep cookin this fire
I'll do my best!
I'd point out that Star Wars is indeed 'complex' only on the surface, it's very clear if you analyze it that it was meant for children, so it has no narrative complexity, everything is incredibly straightforward. I've read War and Peace and I've read Thieves' World, I think Thieves' World was more complex/harder to grok on the first reading, I bet it's got GoT beat too (it's more comedic than grimdark, but has some dark-ass stuff strewn about).
For when you want a 'strawberry riding a strawberry' analogy you should use Alpine strawberries, they're smaller but way more pungent, the strawberry flavor is so intense that they're exactly what you're looking for. They also don't store well, so I've never seen them for sale, people who grow them tend to use them. I sometimes call them fairy strawberries because they look like a strawberry plant that's been developed by the fey. IIRC our modern strawberries get their colour and flavor from crossing white strawberries with alpine (I grow 4 kinds of strawberry).
I think uniformity of culture should show up eventually if you're set way in the future, when everyone can travel instantly/communicate instantly you won't notice much variation among locals, local dialects dropped off as travel and communication became better. We very much have a mono-culture now, and if you want to be 'famous' you have to appeal to it's tastes. Ultimately if you give us a hundred years of internet we'll be even more interchangeable, imagine tens of thousands of years of the internet!
Weird thought, but in the distant future you'd probably have most advanced planets end up with a homogenous climate and no seasons/one environment because of terraforming maybe? A bit ass-pulley though.
LMAO. I appreciate the insightful essay! Especially the Strawberries!
I do think there is a risk of having a homogeneous culture as time goes on due to the interconnectedness of the internet.
It would be interesting to see an anthropological sci-fi that's striving to ensure that doesn't happen. Because I do also think that having a monoculture or being heterogeneous is problematic. I think an ecosystem of cultures provides the best benefits to society.
Planet of hats has been a pet peeve of mine forever. It always stopped me from working on interstellar space operas cuz i always felt planets have to become flat and one note. Tattooine is just Mos Eisley and desert, this sort of thing.
But your take is honestly refreshing. Just the idea that you can technically simplify Earth the same way is a great point. Its kind of an expanding pyramid of complexity that you can touch only the tip of if needeed.
Tho i wonder how you see inter-planet stories. Like, i run RPGs, so i wonder how you can give a good reason for space adventurers going to a planet to deal with a local problem. Like, its still a planet, arent there enough people to deal with the issue?
Also Ms Celestiarch's quips are great haha.
That's good insight. Why do we always have to have the expert with a briefcase from out of town come to fix the problem? That's weird... It's like a watered down version of The chosen One trope.
I typically like the Western archetype in storytelling. Meaning that you just happened to be where the problem is. You're a lone wanderer, a vagabond, and you just happened to be right where you need to be.
Also I'll let Mrs. Celestiarch know that's she's a hit. I told her she would be good for this but she doesn't believe me.
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Planet of Hats is interesting topic
Great video. One thing about the point about Earth being weird. Is it actually rare to have an axial tilt? A quick search tells me all but one planet in our solar system have a notable tilt
Edit: I’m super uneducated on this kind of stuff not trying to be snarky legit just wondering lol
I'm so glad you said that. I made a mistake! While the axial tilt is apart of how we get our seasons, the process is actually from the axial precession. Here's a quick description of the process.
Different planets can experience unique seasonal patterns due to variations in axial precession, which is the gradual change in the orientation of a planet's rotational axis caused by gravitational forces. This process influences the timing and nature of seasons over long periods.
On Earth, axial precession affects the characteristics of our seasons, and a planet's sun and moons can further impact this process. Depending on these gravitational influences, the effects of axial precession can range from minor to more pronounced, leading to diverse seasonal behaviors on other planets.
Also it's quite an honor to be in the presence of the one who is so magnificent, Mr Blumbo.
Anyways, hope that helps.
@@thecelestiarch the moon really is amazing. It’s the primary cause for the precession. Rare Earthists assemble (pls be nice to aliens, we no longer believe in human supremacy…or do we?)
@@duckpotat9818 If you watch Roanoke Gaming then you are definitely pro-human. LOL
Earth has been a planet of hats before- well almost.
Whenever earth has been dominated by supercontinents (like Pangea) it was mainly arid and semi arid with bouts of flash floods except at the coasts.
When CO2 levels were higher it was dominated by jungles except at the tropics (how unintuitive) which were largely arid.
During the Carnian pluvial episode it rained all the damn time for about 1-2 million years. I guess it was mainly swampy everywhere.
During the Permian it was dominated by shallow seas. So sort of a coastal planet.
And early on in its history it became ‘Snowball Earth’ for hundreds of millions of years with all except the tropics freezing over. And ofc in the many ice ages it was much colder, sorta temperate in most places.
Keep in mind some of these lasted hundreds of millions of years and some only a few thousand with lots of diversity across time and space.
We are fortunate to live during an age of high diversity but unfortunately humans are not very good at keeping it around.
And ofc most lifeless planets/moons are also planets of hats.
Venus is a cloud and acid world, Mars and is a cold desert, Mercury and the Moon switch between very hot and very cold like hot deserts.
Pluto, Charon and the Jovian and Cronian moons are ice worlds.
I can’t imagine life arising and developing a technological civilisation on such worlds.
Earth’s dynamic climate has been a huge factor in life’s evolution.
But temporarily bio worlds can be dominated by a single eco type but not for long or literally everywhere.
That was awesome. Thank you! I appreciate this insight.
I never thought about the fact that Pangea was roughly the same. That would have never occurred to me.
Again thank you!
@@thecelestiarch you’re welcome. World building as a biologist is very fun.
Lmfao, did no one else catch the Megamind quote? Thought that was hilarious, I hope my future wife get's all my stupid references
Bro, that movie is a classic! When you find the one who gets you, jokes with you and laughs at your references. That's when you know you've got a keeper.
pls buy a fedora anyway, it looks great
I had one back in the day before the incel thing ever was a thing. I've always loved them. I think they make a person look dashing.
Please change the battery in your smoke detector.
Sigh... I keep forgetting the damned batteries. How hard is it to save the poor thing from its wailing and suffering?
I'll endeavor to do my best and fulfill this quest you've given me.
You look like the white version of me with glasses. I really have to lose weight.
Hopefully we'll both look like the healthier version of each other in a year or so. Already down 20lbs. Let me know how you're doing along the way! You can do this!
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