If the torys had done this policy, this woman would be having a stroke and foaming at the mouth saying how disgusting the tories are. Screaming how there killing pensioners. But because it's her beloved Labour she's defending it and them. She couldn't lie straight in bed
@@EloiseB2025 They will be responsible for countless pensioners and people of all ages dying just by their callous policies alone. The removal of the winter fuels allowance and the vain pursuit of, net zero, to name but a few.
That silly person doesn't even realise it's £300, not £200, these incompetents can't even be bothered to get their facts right. It just demonstrates how little that sum means to them personally.
Pensioners dying is good news for the government. State pension, state benefits all saved going forwards. Houses becomes available, less pressure on new building. In the case of richer pensioners there is Inheritance Tax to come in. Less pressure on the NHS. What's not to like? What the government need to remember is you can judge a society by how it cares for its elderly. Starmer truly is the Granny Harmer and Rachel reeves truly is Rachel Thieves.
That's all correct. I say this to people regularly. They simply can't believe that the state would want them dead and plot to bring that about. However, this is what it amounts to, they don't want anyone claiming a state pension.
the thing that gets me is that those who are angry at the winter fuel payments are also the ones outrage that the government are helping young families with food and school uniform
The pensioners are the riches demographic in the UK. Why? Because they voted for Tories and didn’t care about the young. How many working people are in poverty and won’t even live to receive a pension. How many children are living in poverty. We have a responsibility to look after our young as well as our old. If you really wanted a solution you would be talking about taxing the rich.
Good luck with getting help from your energy suppliers if you are off grid. My gas is LPG (bottled Gas) these companies do not come under Ofgem.. My gas has gone from £35 per bottle to £83 per bottle in 3 years.
That joy that phone in has lost the plot use a hot water bottle put more clothes on joy they shouldn't have to these pensioners deserve better just because your well off some pensioners aren't
You are right, Peter, I sometimes wonder if these people are not paid actors. How any genuine old person could state such rubbish is beyond belief, talk about shitting on one's own doorstep.
Perhaps reducing legal aid a tiny bit would have worked just as well and wouldn’t have left so many old people freezing this winter.The regulator is also at fault for allowing the Energy people to increase the price of fuel
Our economy is not going to get better hammering businesses with high taxation, high energy costs, and so on because the price of everything will go up for everyone as a result. Companies will scale back on employment. They won't expand. Many businesses will close up shop because they can't afford to operate in the UK. This is going to be austerity 2.0
The woman who rang in saying she scrimped and saved when she and her husband first started out is a victorian way of looking at today's costs. Everything and I mean everything costs at least a 100% more now than back then. I know as I went through those times too
Dare I say it I'm glad people are being more economical with the heating. We've become as a society far to used to just sitting in the house in T shirts and shorts with the heating on. No. It's ok to be cold sometimes. All this moaning is from the generation who bangs on about "in my day" ... We had no radiators, no indoor plumbing, single glazing, blablabla and yet here we are moaning because they can't have the heating on 24/7 😂
So ive lost the £200 i used to get as single person Who is going to count how many have died from the cold Streeting said put the heating on and worry about paying later If your on pre payment meter no credit no electric or gas this is how much these fools understand the economy and its people
I Have never had home heating ..No Boiler ..No Gas ..No Hot Water .and i have NEVER had a Winter Fuel allowance ..AND HEY im still Alive and Kicking FFS !! They are Too Soft in this Country .
In 4years time that winter fuel policy me my friends and family will never forget it doesn't matter if labour do come good i will still want them out .we used to vote labour all the time but never again we vote reform now . plus i don't like starmer there's just something about him
Reform economic policies = massive unfunded tax cuts that disproportionately benefit the very wealthy. 1/4 of govt expenditure is state pensions. A reform govt wont have the money for funding pensions , NHS, or much else!
But you already forgot tory policy of sending positive covid patients back to care homes where other vulnerable elderly residents didn't have the luxury of distancing?
If you want to condemn the country by voting on a single issue it proves who the snowflakes are. All I've heard from older folks is how weak the younger generation are but imagine being so butt hurt over losing a small once a year state benefit 😂
Actually some would. Many suppliers have an emergency fund where if you ring and tell them you can't afford it someone will come out and put a minimum top up on.
That's right Barry, the new state pension automatically excludes one from claiming pension credit. The cut-off threshold income is 218.15p while the new state pension is £220. 20p.
@@EloiseB2025 No, they only have to receive an income greater than the £218.15 per week threshold limit for pension credit. The new state pension rate alone exceeds this by only £2.00. However, this will automatically exclude anyone in receipt of the new state pension from claiming pension credit, and that is not by accident. www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+threshold+limit+for+pension+credit&rlz=1CAKDUD_enGB1123&oq=what+is+the+threshold+limit+for+pe
I don’t know who is advising the Labour government, but whoever it is, Reform UK & Conservatives should put him / her up for the highest party award. Labour have self destroyed their chance if being elected for a very, very long time. It was 14 years since last time, it will be 20+ next time, easily…..
If the torys had done this policy, this woman would be having a stroke and foaming at the mouth saying how disgusting the tories are. Screaming how there killing pensioners. But because it's her beloved Labour she's defending it and them. She couldn't lie straight in bed
You're right, she's supporting an outdated long forgotten memory of giving working-class people a voice. Turkeys voting for Christmas.
What pensioners have they unalived?
@@EloiseB2025 They will be responsible for countless pensioners and people of all ages dying just by their callous policies alone.
The removal of the winter fuels allowance and the vain pursuit of, net zero, to name but a few.
That silly person doesn't even realise it's £300, not £200, these incompetents can't even be bothered to get their facts right. It just demonstrates how little that sum means to them personally.
the westmister bubble are out of touch
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Its 200 to 300 depending www.gov.uk/winter-fuel-payment
It was £200.00 for households under the age of 85 and £300.00 for households with people over the age of 85.
That's not for everyone
Pensioners dying is good news for the government. State pension, state benefits all saved going forwards. Houses becomes available, less pressure on new building. In the case of richer pensioners there is Inheritance Tax to come in. Less pressure on the NHS. What's not to like? What the government need to remember is you can judge a society by how it cares for its elderly. Starmer truly is the Granny Harmer and Rachel reeves truly is Rachel Thieves.
That's exactly why they are doing it
That's all correct. I say this to people regularly. They simply can't believe that the state would want them dead and plot to bring that about. However, this is what it amounts to, they don't want anyone claiming a state pension.
the thing that gets me is that those who are angry at the winter fuel payments are also the ones outrage that the government are helping young families with food and school uniform
Reaching there
@judithmorganjudyteen why is it reaching
A coat is to wear outdoors, not indoors
So she is saying it's OK if the death numbers aren't that high
Well, yes, these people debating are as out of touch with poor people as the politicians.
The price is high because of net zero
The pensioners are the riches demographic in the UK. Why? Because they voted for Tories and didn’t care about the young. How many working people are in poverty and won’t even live to receive a pension. How many children are living in poverty. We have a responsibility to look after our young as well as our old. If you really wanted a solution you would be talking about taxing the rich.
thank you. young families have been the worst hit of the cost of living crisis
Absolutely not everything is too expensive at the moment no one can afford anything and not many people have savings
Good luck with getting help from your energy suppliers if you are off grid. My gas is LPG (bottled Gas) these companies do not come under Ofgem.. My gas has gone from £35 per bottle to £83 per bottle in 3 years.
taxing people leaving them with less money ..how can that boost the econormy ..its back to front
England is one of the worst countries you could live in
I can't argue with that, and I am English.
But it was fine when the Tories were in power?
@@Lukesmithbrfc labour are worse
@@bowjana8128 sure they are.....
@@Lukesmithbrfc budget was a disaster cut the winter fuel allowance bills still allngoing up yeah labour have been great
That joy that phone in has lost the plot use a hot water bottle put more clothes on joy they shouldn't have to these pensioners deserve better just because your well off some pensioners aren't
You are right, Peter, I sometimes wonder if these people are not paid actors. How any genuine old person could state such rubbish is beyond belief, talk about shitting on one's own doorstep.
Perhaps reducing legal aid a tiny bit would have worked just as well and wouldn’t have left so many old people freezing this winter.The regulator is also at fault for allowing the Energy people to increase the price of fuel
Our economy is not going to get better hammering businesses with high taxation, high energy costs, and so on because the price of everything will go up for everyone as a result. Companies will scale back on employment. They won't expand. Many businesses will close up shop because they can't afford to operate in the UK. This is going to be austerity 2.0
It's not just freezing of us OAPs that needs to be considered but the human suffering that our OAPs are having to endure as well
The woman who rang in saying she scrimped and saved when she and her husband first started out is a victorian way of looking at today's costs. Everything and I mean everything costs at least a 100% more now than back then. I know as I went through those times too
They haven't saved 1.5 billion Storm.
Dare I say it I'm glad people are being more economical with the heating. We've become as a society far to used to just sitting in the house in T shirts and shorts with the heating on. No. It's ok to be cold sometimes. All this moaning is from the generation who bangs on about "in my day" ... We had no radiators, no indoor plumbing, single glazing, blablabla and yet here we are moaning because they can't have the heating on 24/7 😂
So ive lost the £200 i used to get as single person
Who is going to count how many have died from the cold
Streeting said put the heating on and worry about paying later
If your on pre payment meter no credit no electric or gas this is how much these fools understand the economy and its people
I'll be thanking them when the the next voting comes round and not voting for them
I Have never had home heating ..No Boiler ..No Gas ..No Hot Water .and i have NEVER had a Winter Fuel allowance ..AND HEY im still Alive and Kicking FFS !! They are Too Soft in this Country .
Now that's really believable
You have a log burner don't you?
What do you use then you must stick if you have no hot water to wash in
Labour :
no food ,
no Heating ,
pound turned into toilet paper ,
we in the stone age ,
sorry ,
we in the ice age ❄🥶
what improvements
Liebour needs to stop giving are money to Ukraine. And foreign aid. They are living ckou land. I tel u they only going to sever one trem😂
In 4years time that winter fuel policy me my friends and family will never forget it doesn't matter if labour do come good i will still want them out .we used to vote labour all the time but never again we vote reform now . plus i don't like starmer there's just something about him
Reform economic policies = massive unfunded tax cuts that disproportionately benefit the very wealthy. 1/4 of govt expenditure is state pensions. A reform govt wont have the money for funding pensions , NHS, or much else!
But you already forgot tory policy of sending positive covid patients back to care homes where other vulnerable elderly residents didn't have the luxury of distancing?
If you want to condemn the country by voting on a single issue it proves who the snowflakes are. All I've heard from older folks is how weak the younger generation are but imagine being so butt hurt over losing a small once a year state benefit 😂
Contact your supplier!!! What a load of shite they won't give you free gas !!!
Actually some would. Many suppliers have an emergency fund where if you ring and tell them you can't afford it someone will come out and put a minimum top up on.
No it won’t when the boat people are in there nice warm hotels and there are some Pensioners can’t turn on there heating it’s outrageous
My cousin is pence above the threshold so isn’t able to get help.
That's right Barry, the new state pension automatically excludes one from claiming pension credit. The cut-off threshold income is 218.15p while the new state pension is £220. 20p.
Yes, and that help can be thousands.
So they have savings then which takes them outside of the threshold?
@@EloiseB2025 No, they only have to receive an income greater than the £218.15 per week threshold limit for pension credit. The new state pension rate alone exceeds this by only £2.00. However, this will automatically exclude anyone in receipt of the new state pension from claiming pension credit, and that is not by accident.
www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+threshold+limit+for+pension+credit&rlz=1CAKDUD_enGB1123&oq=what+is+the+threshold+limit+for+pe
@@EloiseB2025 No, savings have very little to do with it.
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I don’t know who is advising the Labour government, but whoever it is, Reform UK & Conservatives should put him / her up for the highest party award. Labour have self destroyed their chance if being elected for a very, very long time. It was 14 years since last time, it will be 20+ next time, easily…..
Silly little boy!