When I saw the trailer, you are the first person I thought of! I was like "ha!, that looks eerily similar to the adventurers guild in the 1.0 trailer, and the architecture is EXACTLY like the architecture from the early rendering!
holy fuck this is crazy, reddit brought me here. relish in this moment for you sir have done some damn fine work and even more incredible we are going to this area now!
As far we know, the first didn't have major calamities to be changed, so the fact it's the reflection of Source shows that that the devs wanted to keep Rapture for later use sometime in Stormblood
I like to think this opening with that adventurer's guild is just a small part of what the First originally had and looked like before the Flood of Light. :)
HUGE detail slipped by my detective eyes in the video! The leveplate Derplander places on the map at 4:15 clearly says "Limsa Lominsa" on the bottom! Guess that removes all doubt!
Speakers Network This will be part of the Garlean Empire. We will visit that part of Eorsia as parts of it's people rebel against the Empire. We will take root from the sea north of Gyr Abania. Area west Othard will open up as well when the empire tries to take Othard back. Right after they help Eorsian push north of Gyr Abania. Fan will finally see the Garlean in the future.
Right you are! Anonymoose mentioned that detail also in the old 1.0 forum lore section I believe...way back when. The leve plate truly does say Limsa Lominsa at the top!
It was clearly Limsa Lominsa, always was. When video of Rapture came back around sometime ago, many people noticed this early Limsa Lominsa location was in the V1.0 cutscene. But go back to that rapture cutscene and take note of the layout. The speculation was that they just made it way too tiny and a decision at some point was to move all the Aetheryte's outside of the adventurer's guilds, hence why all the guilds are these large spaces of the same size. One more thing, look at the shape of that Aetheryte in the V1.0 opening. What location has that shape? They then likely replaced all the glass with solid walls due to draw distance issues (notice how there are no windows you can see out of anywhere?) Notice how the location of each Aetheryte plaza seems more bolted-on than integrated into the surroundings? As for the Artwork of the Red Mage Miqo'te. That is still the same Miqo'te companion from the FFXIV V1.0 opening, just like derplander. It is VERY LIKELY that SE only has high-detail versions of that one set, the 5 characters we see in the opening (gawd do they look terrible in low-poly versions from the end of V3.x as warriors of darkness,) and that's it. We know they have other high-resolution sets because they appear in the openings. SE is free to use these characters because they're really supposed to be the game's default Male Midlander that the game defaults to and 5 other characters that showed up in that opening.
Yep - Koji also confirmed this back in 2012 on the early forums where people were asking about the 1.0 CG trailer as well: forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/57049-CG-Midlander?p=898626&viewfull=1#post898626 And your guess was basically right on the money - the visual works team was too far along in concept when Limsa's design was finalized, so they just kept the look for the trailer.
It gives me hope for either this being in Thavnair or maybe somewhere in the Ivalice themed zones. I mean... apparently Rabanastre and Dalmasca are cities somewhere in the world, so who knows. Of course I'm also saying this mostly just because I have really high hopes we'll actually get some kind of zone to explore there, but the odds are -very- slim. But who knows. We got a small area for the Void Ark stuff, and this expansion has a higher budget- at the least we may get some kind of adventurer's guild to launch our Return to Ivalice adventures from. But... that's mostly just me being hopeful :P
I know it's a year late, but the cat girl in the picture of the red mage CGI art is the same one in the cutscene as well! Quite possibly why they used the backdrop or the backdrop was the reason they used her!
Oh thank god I wasn't the only one who noticed that the RDM backdrop was a reuse of the Adventurer's Guild from 1.0. Also, I believe Koji or another team member did confirm in another place that the adventurer's guild in the 1.0 CG was a beta version of Limsa's guild, they actually *tried it* in the game and even then, stubborn as they were, they realized "oh heck, if the aetheryte is right there in the Wench it'll bring everyone's computers to their knees due to congestion".
Okay, yes indeed, Koji did answer this all the way back in 2012 like I thought - it is indeed a beta version of the Limsa Lominsa guild, straight from the horse's mouth. forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/57049-CG-Midlander?p=898626#post898626 (You even missed a little something, Lukile - the guildleves have Limsa Lominsa engraved on them. The other detective work is good stuff, though!) Now, as to why the CG team used that old layout in 2017... well, it was just a neat backdrop they had lying around as old files, right? Maybe. We'll have to see...
10:01 Wow, that Proto-Limsa does look a lot like The Crystarium. It looks so cool too; I wish we get to see more of that kind of city state going forward.
That early concept was BEAUTIFUL!. I hope they bring it back somewhere. Especially because of the cg card thing. But where was the samurai's background located?
It was a nice touch that they used the likeness of the miqo'te in such a way as well. The design process of games has always fascinated me, and just how much places can change from announcement to completion is always wonderful to see. Good eye, and looking forward to seeing more!
Before SB came out, i heard rumor that RDM and SAM was going to be unlocked in Limsa and Ul dah. Which for which i didn't know but i thought SAM would be limsa since NIN is there. Maybe it was the other way around after and then last minute just made both in the desert city
A bit late in the game on my comment Lukile but something interesting to note.. Glynard, the barkeep at the top of the Wandering Stairs in the Crystarium.. Looks like the same Roegadyn Derplander gets the leves from in the 1.0 cinematic, down to the marking on his forehead. Likely modeled after him. For that matter, the whole look of the bar area there seems heavily borrowed from that adventurer's guild.
The funny thing is, I was thinking it was a Ishgardian location and the characters there where starting new leves- deciding which to start with. = = = = = = = Just like with the opening cutscene of Final Fantasy 11, there's no location the player is allowed to go to resembling Tazvania because there's no map for it...
Love the video! I defo look forward to more. Maybe that old place was to be a location for a future date in 1.0 that of cause never happened? And maybe they are thinking of bringing it out for 4.0? Or maybe even 5.0? They do like to put future secret spoils into things they are showing for current/soon to be current content :3
I think we will see that place when Shadowbringers come. Since the idea to "rewrite" some stuff before the last calamity (SB end) was said in the trailler. Who knows?!... Maybe they had the idea to implement old (1.0) locations on the new areas of the next expansion.
The detective work here is truly impressive, and the video itself is soooo well produced. Fantastic! Always look forward to your content, please keep it up! :D
So, after seeing the video I agree that it was the early concept Limsa, it certainly looks exactly like it; however, I had heard that people were able to datamine 1.0 back in the day, and that the opening scenes took place in the then-Ishgard Adventurer's Guild after someone was able to see the in-progress Ishgard environment. I've thought it was Ishgard this whole time until now. HOWEVER x2! Seeing it used as the backdrop of the Red Mage makes me wonder if it wasn't Ala Mhigo this entire time . . .
Ages ago, this was actually confirmed by the developers themselves to be the Ala Mighan capitol's guild as it took place before the invasion it suffered- the scene was stated to be 20 years before the game's start in 2.0 (15 from 1.0) as I recall... So that would be why the backdrop was re-used, and we will hopefully see it again soon officially.
Actually, this was confirmed to be Limsa Lominsa by Koji Fox on the 1.0 Lore Forum! A thread I didn't even read before this episode was made. forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/57049-CG-Midlander?p=898626&viewfull=1#post898626 ". The answer to the second question is where we encounter our first main hiccup. Many have commented that the setting has to be Ishgard because no other Adventurers’ Guild has its own aetheryte. However, when looking closely at the guildleves that the Midlander brings back from the counter, we can see that the plates have Limsa Lominsa engraved in the frames (a detail I didn't even catch. too busy looking at the map lol), which can only mean that it was the thalassocracy that issued them. The reason behind the flub is fairly simple-the Visual Works team that designed the first opening movie began work on it far before the in-game layout of Limsa’s Adventurers’ Guild was finalized. By the time the map team had decided that the aetheryte was going in a separate plaza to help cut down on congestion of the Adventurers’ Guild, the CGI was too far along to change without setting the completion date back, and so they left it as-is. (This also explains the Miqo’te eye discrepancy. Nice catch, by the way!)"
Amazing episode!! Loved it, and eagerly looking forward to the next episode! The skit at the start was very funny and made for a neat background in the endcard.^^ As for theories, I had thought that was QuickSands to be honest, but you won me over easily. It would always be fun to see Square reuse ANYTHING from early development, now that we have a much sturdier team. I doubt they would use it for Garlemald, but another expansion, maybe another location. I would still like to see more of Gelmorra proper, and see what lies to the west. :D
you just earned yourself a new subscriber I'm very eager to see more of the series maybe you can hit on some end game Easter eggs or something next or something found in the data mines
not gona lie that old limsa looked so beautiful with glass all over and sitting on the water. wish they had kept that design. or i hope they will add it in with some new city in the future
Could we have a dungeon here? Like it's an old rundown part of Limsa that everyone's abandon and Garlean insurgents use it to try to infiltrate the capital?
Absolutely wonderful Video and got me hooked. I actually could of told someone it was Limsa Lominsa if someone asked "where the 1.0 cut-scene was taking place". But after this video, i would be 1 month subscription that we will actually see a different island with the 1.0 LL structural concept idea. :-)
probably worth pointing out that the area in question, given it involves the warriors of darkness in the cutscene, may not even have a direct parallel to the eorzea we play in.
In the Beta/Alpha stage of the game, there is 2 NPCs talking at the Gridania hall. Guess what its the Hyur and the Elezen talking about what leave they will use. Same Dialogue as the trailer in 1.0 for the homage. I have screenshots if you want to take a look :)
No, that's just what the Limsa guild looks like in that alternate universe where it's Hraesvalgr attacking Ishgard rather than Nidhogg. Which is the world the Warriors of Darkness come from, cuz why not. They certainly went out of their way to make the WoD look like the CG intro movie characters.
My guess as to where this guild could be reused would be is in the rumored expansion to the current Adventurer Squadron system. Serving as an upgrade to your current barracks (maybe after clearing a new hard squad mission?) it would act as a hub for further squad missions. The key difference would be that you would be leading your squad on the missions, so the aetherite would function as where you would select which mission to go on. As far as why the location was featured in the RDM CG art the short answer is: Asset Reuse. To expand on my guess it stands to reason that all the assets for FFXIV's CG movies exist in one large asset library that allows the artists to call up a large number of finished models when needed. Seeing as the WOL PC model from the amazing "End of an Era" cutscene released at the end of V1 looks largely the same (armor nonwithstanding) as the one used in the V1 opening I would assume that the models for the Guild in the V1 opening still exist in that asset database and when they were building the SAM/RDM CG art someone ended up using objects from the V1 opening (the glass dome skylight window is clearly one) to build the background for the RDM CG.
This has probably been posted already but I just noticed it trolling around Limsa. There's a table in the Drowning Wench at which is sat a male Hyur, male Elezen and female Miqo'te, and the latter two are pretty much identical to the ones from the 1.0 cutscene minus clothing. It made me giggle :)
I have to say I very much like your series that you created being a 1.0 player myself and I will share this link with my free company which is also a full 1.0 company on Hyperion chaos Theory
I am most likely imaging things but the Red Mage in that promo pic looks an awful lot like Derplander's fem M'quote buddy from that 1.0 cutscene. Excellent work as always, guys.
This episode was one of the first things i thought of after the 5.0 reveal. I just noticed that the roegadyn looks exactly like an NPC in the crystarium.
The crystal dome and design of the rest of the building makes me think of Sharlayan structure ...you can find similar buildings outside Ydellshire ... also notice the Elezen with his right hand places it all the way north ...where the early Sharlayan could have been
Interesting to think of how Black Mage is Thanalan and White mage is The Black Shroud, it would make sense to connect the 3rd mage class to the 3rd city once those 2 are related to the other 2 mages.
I'm surprised you didn't get triggered when you mentioned flower barrels. But great video, and very interesting. I honestly thought that the 1.0 video took place in Ul'dah, but now you got me thinking that you're right.
And I thought you'd never come to "the rapture" video! I had the very same feeling when I did see that new red mage render. I guess next time I will have to make a video too when I spot something~ Or I'll just finally send out my mail I have prepared for your call for proof readers. Anyway, thanks for the video! Well done!
The reason why they used it: it was already there as a high resolution model. Simple as that. Now I'm no expert in 3D graphics but you can't really mesh well a highly detailed model with the in-game graphics and textures, at least if you want that amount of detail to show. If you look at the ARR or HW renders they're usually close-ups with little to none background visible, just some blurry scenery and glowy particles, something you can simply add in Photoshop even. Only the Astrologian one shows a little more, on the background seems to be Foundation so yet again, they may have used the model made for the HW cinematic trailer. As for the Samurai one, because you can see full view of the character and a good amount of surroundings, it is in comparison a "lazy" environment meaning it's all textures and technically everything out of the character may have been added in Photoshop.
Dude your deduction abilities are top notch. The early concept of Limsa was really beautiful, but I can see how it wouldn't work well in the first three parts of the game, considering the PS3 support. I hope they'll bring it back somehow, maybe in Thavnair, like some people commented here, or that would also work well for Sharlayan. If they used it in the CGI promo for a new class, it just feels like they're sad to scrap this concept completely, as it must have been a lot of work to create it in the first place, so, why not try to use it, right?
Honestly I really really like the glass aesthetic of old Limsa I hope it comes back somehow in a new area or something but it's probably more likely that was a background they happened to have had that they threw on because it was one that wasn't used yet or something.
I always wondered where that trailer had it's location set...then again Limsa does have an adventurers' guild...but not as nice as what we have in A Realm Reborn...perhaps it might be repurposed in the next expansion maybe.
To be honest it looks more like they had initially placed the adventurer's guild where the aetheryte in Limsa is NOW.. and later relocated it elsewhere, rather than relocating the aetheryte.
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OMG IT HAPPENED I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EPISODE BECAME RELEVANT TO 5.0! LMAO!
Damn, came here to tell you that you were wrong but ya beat me to it! lol
Was checking in to see if you’d come back to it, now I can’t wait for your next upload
When I saw the trailer, you are the first person I thought of! I was like "ha!, that looks eerily similar to the adventurers guild in the 1.0 trailer, and the architecture is EXACTLY like the architecture from the early rendering!
The Lamps will guide us.
holy fuck this is crazy, reddit brought me here. relish in this moment for you sir have done some damn fine work and even more incredible we are going to this area now!
"Is this version of Limsa Lominsa being re-purposed in a future location? Only time will tell."
Time told me it's called Crystarium in 5.0.
As far we know, the first didn't have major calamities to be changed, so the fact it's the reflection of Source shows that that the devs wanted to keep Rapture for later use sometime in Stormblood
You noticed that too huh? LOL!
I was just looking through the comments to see if anyone else noticed haha. Good times
I like to think this opening with that adventurer's guild is just a small part of what the First originally had and looked like before the Flood of Light. :)
It makes sense; it's possible that the Crystarium was created as a sort of homage to this original Adventurer's Guild.
HUGE detail slipped by my detective eyes in the video! The leveplate Derplander places on the map at 4:15 clearly says "Limsa Lominsa" on the bottom! Guess that removes all doubt!
Speakers Network This will be part of the Garlean Empire. We will visit that part of Eorsia as parts of it's people rebel against the Empire. We will take root from the sea north of Gyr Abania. Area west Othard will open up as well when the empire tries to take Othard back. Right after they help Eorsian push north of Gyr Abania. Fan will finally see the Garlean in the future.
Right you are! Anonymoose mentioned that detail also in the old 1.0 forum lore section I believe...way back when. The leve plate truly does say Limsa Lominsa at the top!
It was clearly Limsa Lominsa, always was. When video of Rapture came back around sometime ago, many people noticed this early Limsa Lominsa location was in the V1.0 cutscene. But go back to that rapture cutscene and take note of the layout.
The speculation was that they just made it way too tiny and a decision at some point was to move all the Aetheryte's outside of the adventurer's guilds, hence why all the guilds are these large spaces of the same size. One more thing, look at the shape of that Aetheryte in the V1.0 opening. What location has that shape? They then likely replaced all the glass with solid walls due to draw distance issues (notice how there are no windows you can see out of anywhere?) Notice how the location of each Aetheryte plaza seems more bolted-on than integrated into the surroundings?
As for the Artwork of the Red Mage Miqo'te. That is still the same Miqo'te companion from the FFXIV V1.0 opening, just like derplander. It is VERY LIKELY that SE only has high-detail versions of that one set, the 5 characters we see in the opening (gawd do they look terrible in low-poly versions from the end of V3.x as warriors of darkness,) and that's it. We know they have other high-resolution sets because they appear in the openings. SE is free to use these characters because they're really supposed to be the game's default Male Midlander that the game defaults to and 5 other characters that showed up in that opening.
You also failed to notice that the red mage? Is the miqote from the 1.0 opening movie.
Yep - Koji also confirmed this back in 2012 on the early forums where people were asking about the 1.0 CG trailer as well: forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/57049-CG-Midlander?p=898626&viewfull=1#post898626
And your guess was basically right on the money - the visual works team was too far along in concept when Limsa's design was finalized, so they just kept the look for the trailer.
Thumbs up for Lukile being right. #shadowbringers
i LOVE how it's straight up the Crystarium. That's so cool!!
So...this place was just revealed at Tokyo fan fest 2019 XD
In the adventures guild in limsa there's a table with 3 npcs sitting down. A elezen, miquote and a hyur.
I'm really glad I watched this episode recently. The full length 5.0 trailer had me freaking out bc I recognized the buildings thanks to this video.
That zoom and enhance cliche` on the map. Brilliant. The sheer quality of your videos are growing, and I'm loving it!
In retrospect this was a stroke of genius.
This prototype is now called Crystarium.
It gives me hope for either this being in Thavnair or maybe somewhere in the Ivalice themed zones. I mean... apparently Rabanastre and Dalmasca are cities somewhere in the world, so who knows. Of course I'm also saying this mostly just because I have really high hopes we'll actually get some kind of zone to explore there, but the odds are -very- slim. But who knows. We got a small area for the Void Ark stuff, and this expansion has a higher budget- at the least we may get some kind of adventurer's guild to launch our Return to Ivalice adventures from. But... that's mostly just me being hopeful :P
Fanfest revealing this location for 5.0 made me think of this video immediately; nice job predicting this location would one day appear in the game
I know it's a year late, but the cat girl in the picture of the red mage CGI art is the same one in the cutscene as well! Quite possibly why they used the backdrop or the backdrop was the reason they used her!
Your production quality and attention to detail continue to amaze! Amazing content too. Keep it up!
"This maps design was never used by the way"
Shadowbringers: ehem!
That towel in front of Papalimo. lol. Also and then that opening cutscene became EVEN MORE relevant.
Oh thank god I wasn't the only one who noticed that the RDM backdrop was a reuse of the Adventurer's Guild from 1.0.
Also, I believe Koji or another team member did confirm in another place that the adventurer's guild in the 1.0 CG was a beta version of Limsa's guild, they actually *tried it* in the game and even then, stubborn as they were, they realized "oh heck, if the aetheryte is right there in the Wench it'll bring everyone's computers to their knees due to congestion".
Okay, yes indeed, Koji did answer this all the way back in 2012 like I thought - it is indeed a beta version of the Limsa Lominsa guild, straight from the horse's mouth. forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/57049-CG-Midlander?p=898626#post898626
(You even missed a little something, Lukile - the guildleves have Limsa Lominsa engraved on them. The other detective work is good stuff, though!)
Now, as to why the CG team used that old layout in 2017... well, it was just a neat backdrop they had lying around as old files, right?
Maybe. We'll have to see...
Scrolled down solely to see people flipping their shit about it being used to the Crystarium in ShB, was not disappointed
10:01 Wow, that Proto-Limsa does look a lot like The Crystarium. It looks so cool too; I wish we get to see more of that kind of city state going forward.
That early concept was BEAUTIFUL!. I hope they bring it back somewhere. Especially because of the cg card thing. But where was the samurai's background located?
by the looks of it?, i say on the sea!
Well if you haven't seen it by now, i've got some good news for you...
We come from the future.
They ARE using it again for Shadowbringers.
It was a nice touch that they used the likeness of the miqo'te in such a way as well. The design process of games has always fascinated me, and just how much places can change from announcement to completion is always wonderful to see. Good eye, and looking forward to seeing more!
I love how this opening scene location gets repurposed as the crystarium in shadowbringers....
Before SB came out, i heard rumor that RDM and SAM was going to be unlocked in Limsa and Ul dah. Which for which i didn't know but i thought SAM would be limsa since NIN is there. Maybe it was the other way around after and then last minute just made both in the desert city
To think this became The Crystarium, with the actual bar tender.
A bit late in the game on my comment Lukile but something interesting to note.. Glynard, the barkeep at the top of the Wandering Stairs in the Crystarium.. Looks like the same Roegadyn Derplander gets the leves from in the 1.0 cinematic, down to the marking on his forehead. Likely modeled after him. For that matter, the whole look of the bar area there seems heavily borrowed from that adventurer's guild.
I seriously need to watch more of your vids, your already predicting 5.0 content.
The funny thing is, I was thinking it was a Ishgardian location and the characters there where starting new leves- deciding which to start with.
= = = = = = =
Just like with the opening cutscene of Final Fantasy 11, there's no location the player is allowed to go to resembling Tazvania because there's no map for it...
I can't believe how good the production value is getting. That CGI intro was topnotch.
"This is Eorzea!"
Umm, about that, Past!Speakers
just imagine how much of a "huh" testers got when seeing shadowbringer lol, mew was one of them
Love the video! I defo look forward to more.
Maybe that old place was to be a location for a future date in 1.0 that of cause never happened? And maybe they are thinking of bringing it out for 4.0? Or maybe even 5.0? They do like to put future secret spoils into things they are showing for current/soon to be current content :3
I didn't even notice the location too busy realizing that our Miqote Bard became a Red Mage.
This video is awesome. I really like the CSI-style detective music in the background as you went over the details, haha. More like this, please!
I'm so glad I watched this back in the day! I was freaking out during Tokyo Fan Fest when they showed the Crystarium!
CRYSTARIUM YOU HAD A FEELING
Holy fuck. Beta limsa is the crystarium
I think we will see that place when Shadowbringers come. Since the idea to "rewrite" some stuff before the last calamity (SB end) was said in the trailler. Who knows?!... Maybe they had the idea to implement old (1.0) locations on the new areas of the next expansion.
SE often makes trailers before starting the games, basing them off concept art. so this is pretty common for them even though extreme in this case.
The detective work here is truly impressive, and the video itself is soooo well produced. Fantastic! Always look forward to your content, please keep it up! :D
So, after seeing the video I agree that it was the early concept Limsa, it certainly looks exactly like it; however, I had heard that people were able to datamine 1.0 back in the day, and that the opening scenes took place in the then-Ishgard Adventurer's Guild after someone was able to see the in-progress Ishgard environment. I've thought it was Ishgard this whole time until now.
HOWEVER x2! Seeing it used as the backdrop of the Red Mage makes me wonder if it wasn't Ala Mhigo this entire time . . .
Ages ago, this was actually confirmed by the developers themselves to be the Ala Mighan capitol's guild as it took place before the invasion it suffered- the scene was stated to be 20 years before the game's start in 2.0 (15 from 1.0) as I recall... So that would be why the backdrop was re-used, and we will hopefully see it again soon officially.
Larien Tiwele I didn't know this but it was my first guess. It ties in with the origins of redmages as well.
Larien Tiwele I didn't know this but it was my first guess. It ties in with the origins of redmages as well.
Actually, this was confirmed to be Limsa Lominsa by Koji Fox on the 1.0 Lore Forum! A thread I didn't even read before this episode was made. forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/57049-CG-Midlander?p=898626&viewfull=1#post898626
". The answer to the second question is where we encounter our first main hiccup. Many have commented that the setting has to be Ishgard because no other Adventurers’ Guild has its own aetheryte. However, when looking closely at the guildleves that the Midlander brings back from the counter, we can see that the plates have Limsa Lominsa engraved in the frames (a detail I didn't even catch. too busy looking at the map lol), which can only mean that it was the thalassocracy that issued them. The reason behind the flub is fairly simple-the Visual Works team that designed the first opening movie began work on it far before the in-game layout of Limsa’s Adventurers’ Guild was finalized. By the time the map team had decided that the aetheryte was going in a separate plaza to help cut down on congestion of the Adventurers’ Guild, the CGI was too far along to change without setting the completion date back, and so they left it as-is. (This also explains the Miqo’te eye discrepancy. Nice catch, by the way!)"
Amazing episode!! Loved it, and eagerly looking forward to the next episode! The skit at the start was very funny and made for a neat background in the endcard.^^
As for theories, I had thought that was QuickSands to be honest, but you won me over easily. It would always be fun to see Square reuse ANYTHING from early development, now that we have a much sturdier team. I doubt they would use it for Garlemald, but another expansion, maybe another location. I would still like to see more of Gelmorra proper, and see what lies to the west. :D
Mayhaps they will reuse it for Thavnair. At least I hope so.
SDJessie Same here. It was a stunning location in CGI and would be awesome to see in game.
I definitely agree since SE is teasing us on where RDM was posing in the CGI card. They love doing that. :-p
would love to see more episode added to all your playlists, very interesting
you just earned yourself a new subscriber I'm very eager to see more of the series maybe you can hit on some end game Easter eggs or something next or something found in the data mines
just imagine the current game would look similar and give a similar atmosphere like the CGI trailer... i would really love to have such places
The miqo’te in the 1.0 intro video and in the picture of the Redmage look exactly the same as well. The face paint is a different color though
I assume they used the original trailer background because they had the old assets lying around. Plus, the glass dome looks great.
Makes me wonder about some of the other remnants and secrets previously thought to be abandoned...
not gona lie that old limsa looked so beautiful with glass all over and sitting on the water. wish they had kept that design. or i hope they will add it in with some new city in the future
This video is a beautiful time capsule.
Maybe it is Sharlayan or Isle of Val, I'm pretty sure we can get to there somewhere in the future. :D
The 1.0 cutscene is like a whole new game! Oh. It was.
Could we have a dungeon here? Like it's an old rundown part of Limsa that everyone's abandon and Garlean insurgents use it to try to infiltrate the capital?
I remember wondering where it was when 1.0 launched. It struck me as a strange hybrid of Limsa and Gridana's halls at the time. Good analysis!
Absolutely wonderful Video and got me hooked.
I actually could of told someone it was Limsa Lominsa if someone asked "where the 1.0 cut-scene was taking place". But after this video, i would be 1 month subscription that we will actually see a different island with the 1.0 LL structural concept idea. :-)
probably worth pointing out that the area in question, given it involves the warriors of darkness in the cutscene, may not even have a direct parallel to the eorzea we play in.
Video is very well done! Them some top tier detective skills :D
Really hope that this area actually becomes a part of the game. It's a really cool design.
In the Beta/Alpha stage of the game, there is 2 NPCs talking at the Gridania hall. Guess what its the Hyur and the Elezen talking about what leave they will use. Same Dialogue as the trailer in 1.0 for the homage. I have screenshots if you want to take a look :)
No, that's just what the Limsa guild looks like in that alternate universe where it's Hraesvalgr attacking Ishgard rather than Nidhogg.
Which is the world the Warriors of Darkness come from, cuz why not. They certainly went out of their way to make the WoD look like the CG intro movie characters.
Seneth Somed Maybe we'll find this location on the moon lol
+Felipe Peñailillo Yup. Doesn't mean we can't fanwank up an in-universe explanation for it too.
My guess as to where this guild could be reused would be is in the rumored expansion to the current Adventurer Squadron system. Serving as an upgrade to your current barracks (maybe after clearing a new hard squad mission?) it would act as a hub for further squad missions. The key difference would be that you would be leading your squad on the missions, so the aetherite would function as where you would select which mission to go on.
As far as why the location was featured in the RDM CG art the short answer is: Asset Reuse. To expand on my guess it stands to reason that all the assets for FFXIV's CG movies exist in one large asset library that allows the artists to call up a large number of finished models when needed. Seeing as the WOL PC model from the amazing "End of an Era" cutscene released at the end of V1 looks largely the same (armor nonwithstanding) as the one used in the V1 opening I would assume that the models for the Guild in the V1 opening still exist in that asset database and when they were building the SAM/RDM CG art someone ended up using objects from the V1 opening (the glass dome skylight window is clearly one) to build the background for the RDM CG.
This has probably been posted already but I just noticed it trolling around Limsa. There's a table in the Drowning Wench at which is sat a male Hyur, male Elezen and female Miqo'te, and the latter two are pretty much identical to the ones from the 1.0 cutscene minus clothing. It made me giggle :)
Very much liked the format! Looking forward to more, was a great watch!
Speakers' production value has skyrocketed since the first Fall and Rise.
I have to say I very much like your series that you created being a 1.0 player myself and I will share this link with my free company which is also a full 1.0 company on Hyperion chaos Theory
It will be reused in Gridalominsa an Eorzean Colony on the Moon
Everyone talking about how they predicted the Crystarium but here you are predicting Endwalker
Wait... so this would make even more sense that we never saw this adventure's guild in our world...
These are fantastic videos I don’t see why you stopped making them!
I am most likely imaging things but the Red Mage in that promo pic looks an awful lot like Derplander's fem M'quote buddy from that 1.0 cutscene.
Excellent work as always, guys.
This episode was one of the first things i thought of after the 5.0 reveal. I just noticed that the roegadyn looks exactly like an NPC in the crystarium.
The crystal dome and design of the rest of the building makes me think of Sharlayan structure ...you can find similar buildings outside Ydellshire ... also notice the Elezen with his right hand places it all the way north ...where the early Sharlayan could have been
3:57 i have nightmares now
Characters expressions were GREAT.
Interesting to think of how Black Mage is Thanalan and White mage is The Black Shroud, it would make sense to connect the 3rd mage class to the 3rd city once those 2 are related to the other 2 mages.
I'm surprised you didn't get triggered when you mentioned flower barrels. But great video, and very interesting. I honestly thought that the 1.0 video took place in Ul'dah, but now you got me thinking that you're right.
Off the topic : Save the Paissa!
And I thought you'd never come to "the rapture" video! I had the very same feeling when I did see that new red mage render. I guess next time I will have to make a video too when I spot something~ Or I'll just finally send out my mail I have prepared for your call for proof readers.
Anyway, thanks for the video! Well done!
Wow! Fantastic opening and quality! Great work indeed. Interesting breakdown of the video and well detailed. Keep up the great work ^_^
Could it be that they've been planning RDM all along, and this picture is actually quite old?
It makes me wish the Crystarium was on the water
The reason why they used it: it was already there as a high resolution model. Simple as that.
Now I'm no expert in 3D graphics but you can't really mesh well a highly detailed model with the in-game graphics and textures, at least if you want that amount of detail to show. If you look at the ARR or HW renders they're usually close-ups with little to none background visible, just some blurry scenery and glowy particles, something you can simply add in Photoshop even. Only the Astrologian one shows a little more, on the background seems to be Foundation so yet again, they may have used the model made for the HW cinematic trailer. As for the Samurai one, because you can see full view of the character and a good amount of surroundings, it is in comparison a "lazy" environment meaning it's all textures and technically everything out of the character may have been added in Photoshop.
Admiral Merlwyb moved the aetheryte outside because the constant dinging of returning KO'd adventurers was disturbing the drinkers.
Dude your deduction abilities are top notch. The early concept of Limsa was really beautiful, but I can see how it wouldn't work well in the first three parts of the game, considering the PS3 support. I hope they'll bring it back somehow, maybe in Thavnair, like some people commented here, or that would also work well for Sharlayan. If they used it in the CGI promo for a new class, it just feels like they're sad to scrap this concept completely, as it must have been a lot of work to create it in the first place, so, why not try to use it, right?
Don't be sad. It is the Crystarium in Shadowbringers.
@@ruthpayne534 my comment was made 4 years ago, before shadowbringers lol
@@MRorizs2 I know, I'm just tardy to the party. These vids are awesome tho, aren't they?
@@ruthpayne534 I see hahaha yeah the Speakers are great and their videos are basically timeless 😄
There's another little hint. All the Sea Wolf roegadyns. Sea Wolves are almost exclusive to Limsa.
Honestly I really really like the glass aesthetic of old Limsa I hope it comes back somehow in a new area or something but it's probably more likely that was a background they happened to have had that they threw on because it was one that wasn't used yet or something.
I always wondered where that trailer had it's location set...then again Limsa does have an adventurers' guild...but not as nice as what we have in A Realm Reborn...perhaps it might be repurposed in the next expansion maybe.
Oh man the original 1.0 opening movie, showing skills we would never get, nostalgia.
That intro really pulled me in!
Why was there a towel over Papalymo' face you monster
The levequest guy becomes the innkeeper in the Crystarium
Only reason I can think of why the aetheryte wasn't put there, is cause maybe they considered load times if a lot of people teleported into it
surprisingly i really enjoyed this video. great work! keep it up
I enjoyed your video! I agree it has Lominsian characteristics but I'm hoping it will be used in Ala Mhigo or Rhaelgar's reach in the future.
Your videos are truly over 9000 !! And now I want this mystery solved! Will this be a new location or will Limsa see some changes?
I remember always assuming it was the inn at Gridania. I never really double checked, obviously. I think I assumed the roof made it Gridanian.
Did anyone notice there are copies of these two NPC's sitting in the adventurer's guild in Limsa?
To be honest it looks more like they had initially placed the adventurer's guild where the aetheryte in Limsa is NOW.. and later relocated it elsewhere, rather than relocating the aetheryte.