2:24 highlight is meant to be on Rosa Skill 3, not Skill 2 CHANGES: - Gavial S3 and Gavial S2 change star order, i.e. prioritise S2 and take S3 as optional - Penance S2 is trash, don't mastery it average content creator misinfo moment | expand for FAQ FAQ: [ Why are the operator orderings seemingly random? ] - This is 50% my fault and 50% HG's fault. Internal ID's are assigned to each character, and in this case some really confusing stuff happens where Vigil is skchar_430 and Penance is skchar_4000 (not exact, just an example). This led me to try and sort it by release order, but after a while my video editor was lagging REALLY hard from 400+ images so I just stopped, which in hindsight I probably should've spent a day doing and then uploaded for higher quality. [ What do the gold and red stars mean, specifically? ] - As per the first 2s of the video, gold means it's my general recommendation if a newer player were to come up and ask "What do I mastery for X operator", without any context. Red stars implies the skills have really good applications in certain niches (which are highlighted in the description of the skill) and might be worth considering, such as in classknights, lowstep, CC, and so on. [ Why do some units have M3 without any stars? ] - Ignoring the Rosa situation (because I messed up there), certain skills benefit a lot from M3 and see some use, but I can't put it under gold star due to lack of overall power or red star due to not excelling as much in the niche. Something like Horn S2 isn't really a high-risk skill, nor is it a great niche skill, but it has its uses and is solid enough to consider. [ Why is Eyjafjalla S2 not recommended for M3 while Pallas S1 is? Isn't Eyjafjalla S2 stronger? ] - Yes. In context, however, a mastery recommendation video should provide optimal resource allocation for specific operators, to which Pallas S1 is the least "bad" one of all her skills, while Eyjafjalla S2 falters amazingly in comparison to S3, to the point where I don't think it's worth doing. Even in the context of AFK clears - i.e. lowstep, Eyja S2 is in the same category as Mizuki S1 and W S2 in terms of usability, which is a far cry lower than what most people deem it as. [ Why are Vigil and Ebenholz bad? ] - Vigil is a DPS unit who heavily relies on his gimmick, so when the latter fails, the former does too. He has a 30s respawn timer on wolf heads, and his summon has 1.1k health - this is in contrast to Blacknight, whose summon has 2.6k health. Blacknight and Beanstalk do equal damage regardless of summon health, but Vigil's fractional health gimmick paired with overall clunkiness makes his DPS subpar, and usage abysmal. - Ebenholz is a generic ranged burst unit in an era where burst has a really high ceiling to remain relevant, to which he sadly falls behind due to inability to store charges when attacking on S3, amidst other reasons. [ Why should I trust you? ] - Without context, you really shouldn't. It's always good to formulate your own opinion about things and then discuss it with others in order to form more refined judgements, but at the end of the day most people have lives and AK is too complicated a game to overanalyse. I'm minimally someone who historical has put out decent-level content, and plays on both EN/CN to test units before making a gameplay-focused opinion uninfluenced by lore, appearance, etc. It's good to disagree with me, and I'll be more than happy to engage in constructive discussions in the comments (of which I read every) and my discord server, but trivially if the comments start with an attack, I'm not liable to be too polite either.
How Vigil is worst 6* Operator? 🤨 His s2 is such a good afk lane holder with some Dp ( like anni 2, South Prison,… and newest Anni ) His s3 also a strong skill which can solo some high atk or 1 shot enemy ( because his woft have 3 life) like Skullshatter espectially Frostnova which most Vanguard cannot solo without therapist or bait I can understand Ebenholz because his kit quite hard to use but on the contrary, Vigil is a very strong vanguard op espectialy for newbie and midbie And remember he is a Welfare unit so you could easily max his potential to upgrade his second talent
Ling probably is the best investment I made lol Nearl is still my favorite, but Ling's design is also superb and her game play is fun. Plus if I'm struggling at a certain stage I just search "Ling solo (stage number)" lol
Since she's the operator of the moment (with Irene), I'd specify that SpectrAl S2M3 isn't a priority until we get module UPGRADES. Currently, even with the (not upgraded) module, her puppet damage and slow is weaker than Podenco, S3 is far better to generally use for now. But that's not a reason to spend for S3M3 right now, just patiently wait module upgrades.
@@Drails She's the first unit I ever really really wanted to E2 just for the breathtaking art but I left her at E1 60 SL7 for now for when I get a specialist ticket in ISRedux and want a kind of guard with some immortality eheh.
I wish Ash module make her receive sp every time she is deployed rather than first deployment. This would make her S3 a little bit better, not by much but can make it more viable
I gotta say favoring Mudrock's S3 over S2 is a nuclear take. But I can see where it's coming from, on paper it's stronger. I still think that S2 is the strongest general use ability in her kit despite not scaling well past M1.
s2 is more favoured in general content, definitely, but that's sort of outside the scope of the video - just because I don't recommend m3ing it doesn't mean I think it's strictly worse
3:49 for new players I really don't recommend M6-ing Skadi. As many operators far out class her and do a far better job than her. With that said, I'm a huge skadi simp and even with that information I still M6-ed her and I don't regret it lol
red star is for specific strategies and not something i'd give as a general recommendation, maybe I should have made it clearer at the start for every non-AH player, s2m3 is enough and with module she becomes arguably an above average operator
@@seagoat3852 damage potetnial is really good but his dogs are made of literal paper and he needs the 3 lives of the dogs to do that good damage, they take forever to respawn, and his s3 SP cost is pretty high. a lot of people are calling him the worst 6 star which is pretty dam sad.
@@GoobieWoobie69 not entirely bad but not good either...his s3 good for killing elite enemy in case they appear frequently while his s2 can make him become hybrid charger vanguard....but yeah his pack of dog really made out of paper, 1 hit of the high attack unit can remove one of the wolf head in instant, hope he got some module to buff him.
@@GoobieWoobie69 It honestly sounds like people are exaggerating how "bad" he is due to salt, although he needs some more def on his dogs for sure. I think his basic talent upgrade module will make his dogs respawn incredibly quickly and solve his issues the same way Splatter changes completely with Module level 3.
You gave stars to guard Skadi but wouldn't to Eyja S2? Eyja's S2 is what makes her so good compared to all the other AOE casters out there. Carnelian doesn't even come close to Eyja overall sustained damage. Also, Goldenglow S2 doesn't have poor scaling. Mech Accord casters hit multiple times based on drone count. You might as well say Exusiai's S3 has terrible scaling if that's the case. Bagpipe S2 is also insanely strong. She doesn't need more than Block-1 in most cases because enemies just die from the insane burst.
Drone caster always benefit from attack speed more then any other buff though, another drone dont mean anything when the drone cant stack quick enough. Bagpipe s2 kill most most enemy before they reach her? What chapter are you in??
@@nope4442 "another drone don't mean anything when the drone can't stack enough"? If you take a look at drone casters, they are some kind of swordmasters variant where they hit twice, so adding another drone basically increased her total output by 50% (raw without another attack buff by 60%). taking her talents into consideration, she outputs strong ST and AOE dmg on her range. Overall, skill options depends on enemies and map layout. Also the guy is praising bagpipe bro. lol
Big mood, best skill. If I want to use S1 I just use Gummy. And S3 is for meme buff/debuff stuff mostly. S2 is the bread and butter. No other medic defender can heal multiple allies and with that range.
Quick and simple Masteries recommendation, just what I needed to prepare materials. Slightly hoping for some notable 5* (or maybe 4*) later, but this is still good enough. Edit: I really should start making a personal planner in Excel to keep track of the materials I need...
Wouldn’t say Rosmontis’ S2 stun is unreliable tbh. I still don’t recommend the avg player to put masteries on it but yeah the stun chance is fairly big on lvl7 - after using her for many years I’ve never “malded” over it, it is fairly consistent. However I will say if you want guaranteed stun to not use this skill; if you need easy stalling of multiple enemies then yeah this skill is still pretty good.
I've always thought her S2 was one of the most underrated skills in the community. Most people make it out to be absolute trash but whenever I use her with it she always carries her weight. A huge range with a large AoE stun and one of the best skill uptimes in the game is really not that bad to have. And the "practically no damage" thing people talk about is kind of silly because due to her armor piercing she'll always do SOME damage even against high armor enemies. Do I use her when I'm going all tryhard?....No. But still a fun operator I think. I hope they give her a good module.
let's take another skill into consideration- mizuki s2, which many people deem "bad": he has a 2s interval and binds for 1.3s, resulting in an approx 65% crowd control uptime rosmontis s2 has around a 60% chance to stun per full attack (hit + 3 aftershock) for 1.5 seconds with a 3.15 interval, resulting in an approx 30% crowd control uptime is it not the best comparison? of course, ros has bigger range and is not limited to 2 targets - but I hope this at least sets a baseline for what I expect from a skill to be worth recommending
@@Drails yeah I agree with you, I wouldn’t recommend anyone to mastery Ros’ S2 either, I’m just disagreeing/commenting on your description of her S2 and less of your mastery recommendation. I get they’re all simplified but I wouldn’t describe it as “unreliable stuns that do practically no damage.” I think that’s a little too harsh, it’s still a decent skill
I specifically use Ros S2 with Corrupting Heart S2. Her aftershock mechanic is substantially better for DPS when you get a nice stack of ATK on it. The real issue with S2 mastery is that her M3 gains are almost nonexistent.
As a year 1 verteran doctor, this video clearly lack an understanding on most early operator Ifrit S3 over S2 when S3 almost never use outside casterknight Saria S3 over S1/S2/M9ing when this video is about "....my general recommendation if a newer player were to come up and ask "What do I mastery for X operator"... " Giving Hoshi 0 recommend skill while giving M6 to Skadi (i have M18 Skadi+Skadialter) is just a next level bs, same reason as above Eyja S2 (i think most people in comment section already complain about that
agreed with most of the points, but i think for Mudrock since her S2 is defensive recovery it's worth doing M1 for the 20% SP cost reduction- the other stat upgrades for M2-3 are mostly vanity (i have indulged of course) but yeah the SP cost reduction is pretty impactful just from experience in IS2 for example
things i would like to point out 1. Mountain S3 is the fact that it can be kinda clunky with enemies that are too light. a lot of the time, you just push them out of mountain's range and can't continuously attack. It really only works better with Elite or boss units so that he can be used as a helidrop. Has a higher value in Integrated Strategies since it allows him to shift from laneholder to helidrop mid run. 2. Maybe this was just for lack of space on the video, but Even in less intense settings, Nearlter S2 can still be valued for spot assassination, her Stun Talent, 4 shields at M1, big attack buff and defense ignore really make it ideal for removing problematic elites or bruise bosses a bit before they get close to your frontline. 3. i can't confirm this so i actually would like if someone could help me: Mlynar's Damage surpassing SA, isn't that on the condition that he gets the full scaling of his liberator trait? does he still outdamage SA even on first skill activation if you activate the skill as soon as it's ready?
As for Stainless, S3M3 might be recommended if you are madlads trying to DPS with those devices. It's not specified in the skill description, but the device dmg scaled with Stainless ATK stat (which M3 helps) and skill level/mastery (cap at 300% and 150% Stainless ATK for main target and AOE dmg respectively)
in the case of kaltsit i think s2 is of an equal priority as s3 because it does prove itself to have a strong of amount of use case to justify it and it is the stronger skill for generic laneholding imo
I keep getting confused about Ebenholz's power level... It seems as though every player and ever content creator has a different opinion of his strength. I go from seing clears of him performing surprisingly well against Steam Knight and Zarro to him losing every other dps race. From hearing positive comments once his second module was released to now finding out that it wasn't even that impactful. Man, I just don't know what to make of it. After this video, I'll just be extremely cautious, and probably reorganize my pulls - Spalter isn't being kind to me. Already 120 pulls in.
@Derrick Cheow That's a good analysis. So he is a considerable pulling option if you personally like him and your account already has all important bases met, so you can afford investing in such small niches. I think I get it.
@@adamantiux9750 yeah, he's best if you want to specifically oneshot boss phases (as his multipliers are huge, scales well with buffs/debuffs, and he has boss/elite targeting) or the boss has several immunity phases (Ebenholz and Mystic Casters just laugh at them as it basically just ensures that they have full stacks, while other burst dmg ops cry as their uptime just gets wasted). You can see it in the showcases, the first burst hit very very hard, but his dmg just plummets afterwards as he can't build up stacks. He's very bad as a consistent dmg op tbh.
4:41 That is, uh...a very weird take re: Mudrock S2. You're forgoing 1% HP regain (which starts adding up over time), +40% ATK, and 0.4 seconds of stun (which again, can easily ramp up quite a bit over time). Really can't support the logic behind this one. Edit: Most of these takes are pretty fair actually, my bad. I still feel like Mudrock S2 is worth M3ing, though.
The scaling is still poor. In general you are not going to be using this skill for stun or HP regen, primarily because the stun is RNG dependent and the chance remains at 30% and the extra healing is okay, but most of the time Mudrock is able to survive with her shield talent alone. It has its applications as just as a really tanky lane holder, but overall S3 is Mudrock’s bread and butter.
@@KommandantAegis A 30% chance isn't bad for how frequently the skill procs, and the added stun duration + damage is pretty good in improving margin when it comes to leaking. In general though no one is claming that Mudrock S3 isn't her best skill (Drails and I both agree on this), it's just that when you say that Mudrock S2 doesn't scale well with M2 and M3 it comes off as misleading. I mean, is it really that bad of a deal compared to what other Operators might get?
The concept of “allowing” only one M3 on certain operator (for example Ifrit or W or Mudrock, big candidates for M6) but loosely allowing others to M6 (like Phantom??) or just completely ignore their existence because of another operator (Maggy just because Ling is a better option? We’re picking best skill to M3 for operators not having a pokemon battle) makes the whole video very inconsistent and frankly idk who should take these advices tbh. Feels very misinformed for newbies since the wording makes it seems like some skills aren’t worth the masteries, but they do. For Veterans I highly doubt they don’t find this super biased.
@@ShinodaChan my general point is that in most situations, the extra gains are marginal (20% more HP regen per skill prof, 17% more damage, and a 0.4 seconds of additional stun). That’s likely why Drails considers it a M1, you can certainly go higher, but the additional benefits are just okay, and not necessarily amazing. Also the 17% is on the assumption that it’s at 0 DEF. At higher defense levels, like 1000 it’s more significant. The skill at M1 already does 2028 ish damage (LVL90 stats) the M3 does an additional 350 damage. Even factoring somewhat high defense levels, it’s still generally not worth it. If you wanna M3 S2, it’s still fairly good, but the scaling past M1 (which’s primary benefit is that SP cost reduction) is still meh.
@@KommandantAegis Though I agree that s3 gains more from masteries than s2, I can’t agree that that makes s3 her bread and butter. It’s definitely s2, it’s a definition of bread and butter if I’ve ever seen one
"RNG feels bad" is an odd reason to hate Schwarz S2. It activates faster after deployment in 10 vs 13 seconds, has a much longer duration in 40s vs 25s, has better uptime in 4/7 vs 1/2 and actually does more DPS against low-defense enemies if the RNG goes your way. The range is the biggest factor though, a straight-line range is very hard to use on many maps, while the regular heavyshooter range is generally applicable. I actually often see people say Schwarz's main skill is S2, and I really do see their point.
for the record I have schwarz m6 on 3 accounts: it's useful in fringe scenarios like certain daily cc maps or cc5 crab lane as notable examples, but I often find myself using other operators for burst if the map restraints prevent myself from placing schwarz s3 at all; s2 can be a great skill, especially in sniperknights, but in general use it feels clunky, unreliable, and something i'd rather not recommend
I think GoldenGlow's Skill 1 is underrated and is worth m3, it's one of highest total damage caster skills ( only caster skills that can beat it is ceobe skill 2 but under very specific circumstances, and probably ifrit skill 3 might beat it out),
was the Ling S3 "80% solo stages" an actual number supported by list of stages she can solo with S3 or was it just a random eyeball big number slapped ?
i heard it from zafang or something so it MUST be true!! on a more serious note, a while back a friend of mine counted ling stages on arkrec and gave around that and i've been using it ever since, no idea if he doublecounted CMs though
@@Drails now I kinda wonder whether that number is Ling solo or Ling S3 solo, since it's surprisingly high considering a lot of map has drones and Ling S3 doesn't feel like it can tackle those stages but w/e guess i'll look up myself then, thanks for the answer
Essentially Ling can do any stages with her S3 so long as she has the whole bank of dp, so 2-3 flagbearers worth. There are some situations her summons struggle in like possessed enemies in the story chapters who deal more damage than they take usually and people who can execute like Emperors blade and Frostnova. I mean honestly its a 4 block behemoth that deals arts damage to all blocked enemies, Ling is literally the best lane holder in the game making Mudrock and Kal'sit look bad. Ofc to achieve this she needs a hell of a lot of dp.
*coughs* Honestly I almost have Saria at m9. I actually don't use her s2 very much but I flip back n forth between her skill 1 for normal shenanigans and her s2 for IS. And funnily enough I M3d Eyjas S2 before her S3. I used it a whole lot more and if i needed a strong eyja s3 id just borrow one. Shes m6 now tho
Oh a lot of 6* has useful s2. Thanks, finally I know which to prioritize. I have low resources, if not I'd M3 some skills I like. Btw about Vigil, I'm sure because Texas alter and Penance too op so that devs makes him bad, makes him the first 6* welfare not recommended by others.
As a fairly new player, i absolutely appreciate this mastery guide. Thankiu sir. Either way since im too low-brained to use mudrock's s3 ever, so i just use and m3 her s2 instead hehe
I see texas alter s2>>>> surtr s3 in damage a lot but I've never seen anyone go further, almost like they're trolling and hiding something important. Is it a theoretical 0 resist enemy? total skill damage? damage per hit? damage over time taken for deployments?
dps, 3k vs 2.7k against 0 res - sexas has 30% res shred while surtr has 22 flat surtr is significantly stronger, don't get me wrong, but it's an easy metric to go by when many people know how much damage surtr deals
Definitely can't agree with Rosa, as one, who use her a lot. It's implied that you use operator a priori and we don't consider the fact that you can just Surtr\Chen\Ling-ing any stage and other operators are not needed generally. In that case her S2 is a HUGE contribution to stage clearing. 60k is very decent physical damage, 65s is a pretty long cooldown for it though, that's fo sure. But if we go away of considering skill in isolation it become much more efficient due to def-ignoring and very often overdps a lot of (not broken) other physicall dps skill, that combines with her range and especially multi-target attack. You will take her if there are high-def enemies anyway (that is common case nowdays), and long duration is also often a good thing. In addition her range is VERY often give you unique possibilities. S3 is muuuuch more niche option and in that case you transform her into "specialist" operator instead of DPS and abolish her talent (roughly speaking). The only reason that I can see of not giving her M3 on S2 (implied that you already decided to use her) is low damage scaling. Roughly from 50 to 60. But cutting cooldown from 80 to 65 is actually a big thing anyway.
Damn is Vigil that bad? I was looking forward to building him, can you explain why he's so terrible? One would think at least the wolfs's 3 health bar gimmick would be worth something
I read through his skills and it seems like his skill is not dp focus but dmg focus (S1M3: gives 7dp, S2M3: gives 2 initial DP, and gain 1 for each enemy killed, S3M3: gives gradually 12 dp) so the DP is heavily depending on the dogs or his skills just not focus on DP spamming at all. And his skills focus on increasing dogs' damage but if the dogs' stats are low then it makes the whole 1 dp/kill (S2) pretty much useless. And his talents are just ignoring enemies' def so i kinda guess he's quite niche for a supposing vanguard
30s respawn on dog head when each dog life individually is so weak is unoptimal, paired with the supposed dps focus which would have been fine if not for the dps also being pitiful to put into perspective: hypnos (blacknight summon) has 2.6k health vigil's dog has 1.1k health
@@Drails considering that he has 3 dogs in total it's 3,3k HP, on top of that they regen with time, which Blacknights' Hypnos can't, so it doesn't make any sense
@@Drails Thank you and Linh for explaining, i just looked up the wolf pack's full stats and paired with the 30sec cooldown on the wolfs and dps(or lack there of) focused kit, yeah its pretty abysmal, what a shame, also i just noticed the X over Saria's S2 on the thumbnail, very nice
i see, its valid oppinion too. but yea its still depends on player gamestyle too. for me if that skill have a charge i would lookup if its gonna add another charge or reduce the sp cost in the mastery. but yea solid recomendation
I disagree with Saga's S3 being better than her S2. I rarely need a flagbearer with her S2. She fills up the DP quickly while killing enemies on 4 tiles simultaneously and ignores her limitation of not fatally wounding her enemies. She could be a solo lane holder for a while until you wait for the DP to fill up and place your guard behind her
I kinda feel I've used more nearl S2 and gav S2 then S3 (i.e. should be a general recommendation). The Gav S2's longer range / longer duration / higher DPH is just better then S3 (except on high difficulty), a bit like mountain S3. similarly although nearl S3 have a higher upper limit then S2, but its just a good safety belt in case anything happens. And in 2:32, I think you put the star on a M0 skill, is it intended?
imo, nearlter s2 s3 about equal for general use considering SN just hit on EN, and historically true damage has been good for ignoring bullshit mechanics - besides, the deploy limit ignore matters slightly more gav2 gav3 it was really close between considering both skills (what I chose to go with) vs ignoring s1 s3 altogether and only recommending s2, which feels kinda off given that in a vacuum, I think gav3 is slightly stronger assuming you don't have any of the super good cycling units (i.e. mlynar) and yeah rosa is a editing error, i've mentioned it in the pinned comment - thanks for the feedback
Nice video! I am glad you didn't just digest other content but used your own words and in a visually pleasing manner! Well done! Here is my personal takes on some difference in opinion: Shining S2 is great for AFK setups in scenarios where constant damage hits an operator, like DoT damage. It starts to really suck when the incoming damage has a greater delay than her heal. When she shield expired you effectively wasted her skill. Overall mediocre at best but I wanted to point out possible usage scenarios. Same for Nightingale S2. She shield is awesome when it actually gets to absorb damage, otherwise it is wasted. I wouldn't recommend Phantom S3 if the player has Project Red. The RNG nature of the status effect sucks and his S2 fits his role better, which is to double-drop on an enemy and SHRED them. Blemishine S2 IS great... but the mention of how difficult sleep is to utilize for the average player should be mentioned. Also, personally, I dont like the range restriction. Should be a tile bigger.
yeah phantom s3 was mentioned as a more specific pick for cc given his prevalence there (see 6,7,8,9), in general use red is likely more consistent, but tbh the extra range and clone does make them really close as for blemi, makes sense
i teared up when i saw what you had for ebenholz....i thought i was lucky to get him from a random single but i guess not! also horn is a pain for me,i use her in all teams cause she,liskarm are my only built defenders(e1),i have czerny,hung,bubble,matterhorn,durnar and gummy but i havent toughed any of them.horn goes to 27 dp cost at e2 and for a noob like me thats really hard to use. thnx for the vid!is really helpful
@@yuki._.6406 myrtle is part of my team,always! im working on elysium atm and on cantabile too.thnx for the tip tho,you re the 1st arknights player that actually gave me advice!!
Well in relation to the operators, it makes sense. Whenever you are not using eyja S3 u either doing annihilation (which is balanced around 4star) or just trolling.
there's a specific niche where skadi s3 is very useful (ah) i've literally outlined where eyja s2 is useful and mentioned to m3 it if you're interested in afk strats lmao
Preety great video I have 2 suggestions: I would recomend raising Eyja's S2 to M3 for IS specifically IS3 with the broken Caster/Summoner hand that gives +2sp/s for spammable skill core casters. Not to mention the skill scales with Chocolate Sphegetti, Regeant 65 and Spinach. Saria should have stars on all her skills cuz she is one of the best M3 candidates. S2 is used along with her Lvl2 module in places like red mist stages or for units like Gavial alter to charge 2SP per skill for allies that are around her
Firstly, casters in IS3 collectively suck. That hand is actually ling hand not eyja s2 hand. Secondly, there is no red mist maps, and saria is generally considered a troll pick in IS3 due to horn's high priority. Doing eyja s2m3 for the current meta of IS3 should be considered trolling - in fact, picking eyja in IS3 is trolling
@@tsunderekermit GG Eyja and Passenger exists so IDK what u mean by casters sucking? GG in particular is the best counter to multiple enemies due to mapwide range and not attacking them directly on S3. Passenger has huge range and a lot of relics buff him up. With the caster relic Eyja can use her S2 every other hit once it snowballs to max. IDK what u mean by casters suck
@@asheqabeer1798 If you are mentioning eyja passenger as good picks for IS3 then the only logical conclusion is that you are unfamiliar with the high difficulty meta. This is okay, I don't like to be corrected when I pretend to know something either. GG is the only one remotely worth picking out of the three, and even then she's a waste of hope. The rationale behind caster hate is IS3 difficulty stacking grants +20res for all enemies, sounds not too bad, then you realize that cuts your already low arts damage down to a half or even a third for bosses (70->90res). GG had res pen so it's not so bad, but the meta is still to pick high dph physical carries.
@@tonyjiang1976 Alright your clearly more knowledgable than me on this topic in which case I want to ask what is the meta of IS2/3 in your opinion? I admit im not a know it all I merely finished all 3 bosses in IS2 on Calamity diffuclty and havent played IS3 granted u seem to know more I would like to hear your opinion on the topic since there doesn't seem to be anyone talking about the IS meta esp for the hardest difficulties. (P.S. no sarcasm I genuinely wanna hear and learn what you have to say as I am unfamiliar with the high difficulty meta of IS)
@@asheqabeer1798 Generally people use gavial alter or ling as an opener and try to get e2 mlynar immediately. From there the picks become more varied. I've been experimenting lately and Texas alter is really good at both dealing with the flying fishes and also just general crowd control - s2 can be used against high priority targets like rat king as well. For ending 1, you want to find a way to kill the boss from afar, it is generally accepted that horn or fiametta are the best ways to do this. Ending 3 you want as much damage as you can as stalling the fight leads to significant healing pressure - generally picking at least one of nearl alter, pozyomka, or suzuran helps with this significantly. Ending 2 is the hardest as you need to find a way to cc the boss and somehow deal with his unblockable phase 2. For ending 2 in particular gg is actually a decent pick as her drones still attack even when she's stunned.
My OPs mastery is almost what was recommended on this list. But I really like afk starts so I even mastered skills thats are auto or permanent when its activated. like both Shining and Nightingales S2. my Saria is M9 so yeah her S2 as well. my NTR kinght is M6 S1&S2. Eyja S2. Hoshis S2. Suzuran S2. sadly but if I had both Goldenglow and Bagpipe. i would master S3 of course. but ill also master both of their skill 2 as well.
*gasp* You forgot the best 6 Star, La Pluma which should be M6 guaranteed. Poor Ebenholz One simple change to his S3 & he’d be Much Better (Only Attacks on Full Charge)
How did you arrange the appearance order of the operators? It was weird seeing Vigil be branded the worst somewhere in the middle. Also, small request: please use more than one BGM if this slideshow style is how you'll do this guide in the future
it was initially meant to be release order but the sources I downloaded the images from had it mixed between release and internal ID number, which you can see on aceship's github - I really should have arranged it according to release, but my editing software was already dying with 300-400 images in it XD
I dont respect someone who can't see a full potential of an op just from a vaccum. Calling Vigil the worst 6 star in the game when he's gonna be core unit for vanguard knight along with the other 6 vnaguard and *mizuki existing alone nulifying for the fact he isn't the worst 6 star*. I feel like you didn't do much research at all into this video cause yike Mostima being *good* even with Module she's barely use. Phantom basically get powercreep by Texas alter in term of dmg so his only niche is Cc with his clone now. So saying s2 is the best to m3 feel reduntant when Texas alter do art dmg with art res debuff making her dmg expedentionally higher than Phantom not to mention Phantom also lose in term of dmg to Red S1
bagpipe will always be the core for VGknight, not even every God in existence can change that. there's really nothing thay Vigil can do amd others can't replicate even slightly
why type many words to explain shit op a vanguard printing garbage amounts of dp let alone a 6* will never be a good idea at least mizuki deals damage and yeah lets just assume everyone pulls a limited specialist so we can just forget phantom exists also red s1 > phantom s2 take is the dumbest shit ever, i can safely assume youre garbage at this game
Just my opinion. all skill from saria are useable but if you an afk strat player just masteries skill 1 & 2. skill 3 are optional for hardcore strat or big brain strat.
As a guy that started playing a few months ago I can’t even tell who some chars are, they are not named, then I think you put skin some and are even harder to identify. This is not a beginner friendly guide, but I don’t think it’s for veterans, why would they need this info?
I know that Mudrock gets quite the mileage out of Blemishine's talent, especially skill 2, but how about Penance? Also, when it is said that Mylnar does twice as much damage as "your sworn ally", i suppose it is about he taking half the time to reactivate his skill?
for Mylnar, doubling silverash is using his full charge time for the archtype's trait IE 40ish seconds, if you use S3l the moment his SP is charged, he is slightly higher then SA's total damage.
Mudrock is a unique case because if you were to blok 3 enemies, their and mudrock's own attack(with blemi) are enough to activate her S2 (4sp) almost every 2 seconds. Its very effective. For Penance, only her S3 use defensive recovery and even then, its 24 sp. Meaning her own atk(with blemi) will not have much impact on how fast she can cycle the skill if nothing comes her way. As for mllynar, you can now check his actual number in english site like gamepress and compare that yourself. First, mlynar S3 have 40sp cost, that alone is twice faster than silverash (90sp or redeploy). Second, he have big self atk buff in his class trait. Third, S3 activation DOUBLE his current atk buff. As a bonus, mlynar have talents where he increase his atk even more and deals additional true damage. Think of it like this, mlynar can use the same silverslash from the get go, but he have so many additional buff and damage that he can easily go even higher. Mlynar have problem where he have 0 block and focused on his newspaper (doing nothing) outside of his skill, but his S3 damage is so ridiculous (see chen alter) you can just let the enemy build up and sweep them in one go. Mlynar himself also actually pretty tanky for a guard so you dont need to be afraid of him dying in the middle of the sweep (unlike you, silverslash). And because waves of invisible enemies are very rare, mlynar is straight up better if all you ever care about is damage. Almost twice better.
I agree to this list from a gameplay perspective but from a fun and fucking around perspective some niche skills are really fun to experiment with also why vigil is considered bad?
For ifrit... I don't M3 her S3 and not often using her S3, im always using her S2 and M3 her S2 for debuffing, bcuz im always using her as debuffer and specially when there was a boss with high deff, i will use ifrit S2 and Exusiai S3 to kill it
whoa, Vigil is THAT bad? I mean yeah, Tacticians are kinda meh in general but I thought he was better than this, his s3 damage seems pretty good for a vanguard and it's technically a 3 block vanguard as well (well, if his wolves dont start dropping)
tacticians are a fine archetype, I really liked beanstalk and blacknight vigil is.... significantly weaker than blacknight, in my opinion - it'll take a long time to explain, but suffice to say 30s recharge for 1.1k health per head is really suboptimal considering blacknight's summon has 2.6k health
@@argonaut4432 it got 3 lives, but Vigil's DPS gimmick needs all 3 lives on his wolf pack to survive yet HG has the "good idea" to essentialy split the summon's HP to 3 with no survivability compensation it's essentially more like Vigil has 3 summons in 1 tile and he needs all 3 to survive to do well with his kit, which is hard bcos each heads are not tanky at all
Curious about some things regarding Ebenholz 1. Why is he considered the 2nd worst 6-star? 2. How does he actually compare with other Mystic Casters, Indigo and Iris? i don't hear people being harsh on her but i can't say it's the same case with Eben.
As I understand it, the main issue with Ebenholz is that he's supposed to be a "boss killer", a single-target burst damage unit (heck, his S3 even makes him prioritize Elite enemies and Bosses), but in practice he ends up being weaker than many other burst damage/sweeper units. There are a number of reasons for it. One is that most of the popular "sweepers" not only do insane single target damage but ALSO do AoE AT THE SAME TIME (Surtr, SilverAsh, Chalter, etc.). Then add on to that that Ebenholz can build up his charges until the Boss enters his range, then he throws them all and does a nice chunk of damage, and then... so long as enemies remain in his range, he just keeps attacking instead of building up charges. And his charged up attacks are just so much stronger, while his normal ones (even with S3 buff) are not great. It's why the main "meta" way to play him is to pair him with Sleep units, since he won't attack Sleeping enemies and will instead build up charges to chuck at them when they wake up. Which Iris already does on her own. Now, obviously Iris and Indigo have lower damage than Ebenholz, but they're also not 6 stars. No one expects them to go toe-to-toe with Surtr or SilverAsh. But when a character is released as a "6-star boss killer" and doesn't even hold a candle to the already existing sweepers, it's an issue. Ebenholz's modules help a little, but, yeah. His newest one makes all his attacks AoE, which is nice, but most people agree that what he really needs is a way to keep building up charges even when enemies are in his range. Would make him waaaay stronger, but even then, probably not on par with Surtr and the like - just decent. All that said, I adore Ebenholz's design and will get him regardless xD
ejyas S2 is absolutely a mastery priority, what are you on about? her s2 and s3 are some of the best caster skills in the game for completely different uses.
I think the gist of it is that the skill can only reach it’s max potential if he never wastes attack charges on enemies, but the problem is that if there are that few enemies coming through where he sets up his S2 summons, they won’t be very useful and he is better replaced by an operator with more utility. And it goes without saying that if he is constantly using up his attack charges on enemies the skill is wholly underwhelming, summoning only 2 summons per skills use. W’s S2 is completely consistent as she doesn’t rely on not attacking for he skill to function, plus her mines last longer than the summons
@@Drails i would like to point out some, but saying ' operator a is worst' ' operator b is bad ' without further elaborate, in a video about mastery guide; idk, doesn't sit right with me and makes me can't bear to watch it again. its more fair to just explain their skills and give the audence to judge if the ops are worthy or not. i gonna point out about magallan. its saying for s3 just use ling, thats quite confusing statement for me. you cant compare these both, they have different, very very different usage. too bad tho, i thought it would be a video i can recommend to my newbie friends xD
dps oriented gimmick tactician that fails both at dps and his gimmick s3 is based off the summon's atk for the extra arts damage and he gets no inherent atk buff, so last I checked on-skill dps was really low even for a vanguard as for the gimmick, well, he takes 30s to respawn one head which seems fine at first but then you realise: blacknight's summon has 2.6k hp vigil's summon has 1.1k hp
@@rayreiii3501 raise whoever you want to, im going to m9 ebenholz and if you want to raise an operator thats not regarded as meta by the community, do it! I find that the 'bad' operators are often the most fun ones to play
@@Drails Wait wtf? That's not the math on Vigil according to EN translated resources. For one thing: Respawn on dogs is 25s at E2. 30s is his E0. He also spawns with two shadows so on deploy that's 2.2k HP at least, still too squishy but he doesn't start with 1.1k summon HP. S3 explicitly says it uses his ATK for the arts damage and that he and the wolfpack both do the arts damage to blocked enemies, so that's 271 (542/2) arts multiplied by 3-6 hits. Personal DPS on skill should be 1626 before arts (542x3), Wolf base DPS is 297 (371/1.25) x shadow count. Adding the arts to that, his auto attack should be 2429 DPS (very respectable) and his wolves should do 514 x shadow count. Overall assuming he's blocking, he should be doing nearly 3k even assuming the worst case of one wolf, and nearly 4k with three. Is literally every EN resource just mistranslated? Is he bugged? Or is my math shite? His on skill S3 DPS should be extremely high if he's blocking. Not comparable to Bagpipe S3's monstrous output of consistent 4.6k raw DPS before talent RNG (due to the huge variance and block restriction), but that's a pretty stupidly high bar. If he's using the dog ATK stat for S3 arts it sounds legitimately bugged, like the fuckery with Lunacub not working until patch.
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2:24 highlight is meant to be on Rosa Skill 3, not Skill 2
CHANGES:
- Gavial S3 and Gavial S2 change star order, i.e. prioritise S2 and take S3 as optional
- Penance S2 is trash, don't mastery it
average content creator misinfo moment | expand for FAQ
FAQ:
[ Why are the operator orderings seemingly random? ]
- This is 50% my fault and 50% HG's fault. Internal ID's are assigned to each character, and in this case some really confusing stuff happens where Vigil is skchar_430 and Penance is skchar_4000 (not exact, just an example). This led me to try and sort it by release order, but after a while my video editor was lagging REALLY hard from 400+ images so I just stopped, which in hindsight I probably should've spent a day doing and then uploaded for higher quality.
[ What do the gold and red stars mean, specifically? ]
- As per the first 2s of the video, gold means it's my general recommendation if a newer player were to come up and ask "What do I mastery for X operator", without any context. Red stars implies the skills have really good applications in certain niches (which are highlighted in the description of the skill) and might be worth considering, such as in classknights, lowstep, CC, and so on.
[ Why do some units have M3 without any stars? ]
- Ignoring the Rosa situation (because I messed up there), certain skills benefit a lot from M3 and see some use, but I can't put it under gold star due to lack of overall power or red star due to not excelling as much in the niche. Something like Horn S2 isn't really a high-risk skill, nor is it a great niche skill, but it has its uses and is solid enough to consider.
[ Why is Eyjafjalla S2 not recommended for M3 while Pallas S1 is? Isn't Eyjafjalla S2 stronger? ]
- Yes. In context, however, a mastery recommendation video should provide optimal resource allocation for specific operators, to which Pallas S1 is the least "bad" one of all her skills, while Eyjafjalla S2 falters amazingly in comparison to S3, to the point where I don't think it's worth doing. Even in the context of AFK clears - i.e. lowstep, Eyja S2 is in the same category as Mizuki S1 and W S2 in terms of usability, which is a far cry lower than what most people deem it as.
[ Why are Vigil and Ebenholz bad? ]
- Vigil is a DPS unit who heavily relies on his gimmick, so when the latter fails, the former does too. He has a 30s respawn timer on wolf heads, and his summon has 1.1k health - this is in contrast to Blacknight, whose summon has 2.6k health. Blacknight and Beanstalk do equal damage regardless of summon health, but Vigil's fractional health gimmick paired with overall clunkiness makes his DPS subpar, and usage abysmal.
- Ebenholz is a generic ranged burst unit in an era where burst has a really high ceiling to remain relevant, to which he sadly falls behind due to inability to store charges when attacking on S3, amidst other reasons.
[ Why should I trust you? ]
- Without context, you really shouldn't. It's always good to formulate your own opinion about things and then discuss it with others in order to form more refined judgements, but at the end of the day most people have lives and AK is too complicated a game to overanalyse. I'm minimally someone who historical has put out decent-level content, and plays on both EN/CN to test units before making a gameplay-focused opinion uninfluenced by lore, appearance, etc. It's good to disagree with me, and I'll be more than happy to engage in constructive discussions in the comments (of which I read every) and my discord server, but trivially if the comments start with an attack, I'm not liable to be too polite either.
Instructions unclear, M3'd her S1
For future content adding the name of the unit and the skills might be useful. Not all of us know the name of all the units and their skins.
@@DeKaged thanks for the suggestion!
How Vigil is worst 6* Operator? 🤨
His s2 is such a good afk lane holder with some Dp ( like anni 2, South Prison,… and newest Anni )
His s3 also a strong skill which can solo some high atk or 1 shot enemy ( because his woft have 3 life) like Skullshatter espectially Frostnova which most Vanguard cannot solo without therapist or bait
I can understand Ebenholz because his kit quite hard to use but on the contrary, Vigil is a very strong vanguard op espectialy for newbie and midbie
And remember he is a Welfare unit so you could easily max his potential to upgrade his second talent
@@inhanh2351 Wait, Vigil is a welfare?!! When is he coming out for Global?
Would be nice if there was chapter/section tabs in the video to quickly find each character, I'll comment the timestamps here for now.
0:03 Kal'tist
0:15 Ch'en
0:26 Blaze
0:36 Exusiai
0:47 Siege
0:58 W
1:09 Ifrit
1:19 Hoshiguma
1:29 Shining
1:40 Silverash
1:51 Nightingale
2:01 Eyjafjalla
2:12 Hellagur
2:22 Rosa
2:33 Saria
2:44 Gnosis
2:55 Mostima
3:05 Bagpipe
3:16 Aak
3:27 Magallan
3:37 Phantom
3:48 Skadi
3:59 Mountain
4:09 Angelina
4:20 Thorns
4:31 Fiammetta
4:41 Mudrock
4:52 Lee
5:03 Archetto
5:14 Schwarz
5:25 Surtr
5:36 Suzuran
5:46 Saga
5:56 Goldenglow
6:06 Rosmontis
6:18 Weedy
6:29 Blemishine
6:40 Carnelian
6:50 Vigil
7:01 Mizuki
7:11 Ash
7:22 Passenger
7:33 Gladiia
7:43 Saileach
7:55 Pallas
8:05 Skalter
8:16 Chalter
8:26 Nearlter
8:37 Spalter
8:48 Gavialter
8:59 Texalter
9:09 Ceobe
9:20 Nian
9:31 Dusk
9:42 Ling
9:52 Irene
10:04 Horn
10:14 Lumen
10:25 Ebenholz
10:36 Dorothy
10:46 Pozyomka
10:57 Mlynar
11:07 Penance
11:18 Stainless
11:29 Flametail
11:40 Eunectes
11:51 Fartooth
thank you so much! i'll add this in the description now
Ling probably is the best investment I made lol Nearl is still my favorite, but Ling's design is also superb and her game play is fun. Plus if I'm struggling at a certain stage I just search "Ling solo (stage number)" lol
Ling gameplay being fun is probably the first time I've heard someone say it
Since she's the operator of the moment (with Irene), I'd specify that SpectrAl S2M3 isn't a priority until we get module UPGRADES.
Currently, even with the (not upgraded) module, her puppet damage and slow is weaker than Podenco, S3 is far better to generally use for now. But that's not a reason to spend for S3M3 right now, just patiently wait module upgrades.
correct, spect's the weakest unit in the game until mod upgrades and I wouldn't recommend raising her even to e2 until Lingering Echoes
@@Drails good thing I didnt upgrade her yet then. definitely nothing to do with lack of resources due to building m9 horn
@@Muchillas yup, totally not have to do anything with horn at all.
@@Drails She's the first unit I ever really really wanted to E2 just for the breathtaking art but I left her at E1 60 SL7 for now for when I get a specialist ticket in ISRedux and want a kind of guard with some immortality eheh.
@@Drails I mean, i can just E2 her and put her in the "needs modules to work" Closet. Her E2 art still pretty good for display. HEHE
08:02 I love how the BGM's hook arrives with most proper operator for it.
2:37 Me: *looks at S2M3 Saria with no other materies* 👀
I wish Ash module make her receive sp every time she is deployed rather than first deployment.
This would make her S3 a little bit better, not by much but can make it more viable
Even if it just a percentage of her initial SP gain from the first deployment, it would be still better than nothing
Loved this video, straight to the point, the explanations are simple but crystal clear, please do more of these videos
I gotta say favoring Mudrock's S3 over S2 is a nuclear take.
But I can see where it's coming from, on paper it's stronger.
I still think that S2 is the strongest general use ability in her kit despite not scaling well past M1.
this vids about mastery priorities tho
s2 is more favoured in general content, definitely, but that's sort of outside the scope of the video - just because I don't recommend m3ing it doesn't mean I think it's strictly worse
For general use i would rate Mudrock s2 and Eyja s2 higher
Mud rocks s3 is something else I feel that it only falters on blind runs due to potential leak. Otherwise it’s an insane skill
0:05 Kal'tsit 0:16 OG Chen
0:27 Blaze 0:36 Exusial 0:47 Siege 0:58 W 1:08 Ifrit 1:19 Hoshiguma
1:30 Shining 1:40 SA 1:51Nightingale 2:02 Eyja
2:13 Hellagur 2:23 Rosa
2:33 Saria 2:44 Gnosis
3:49 for new players I really don't recommend M6-ing Skadi. As many operators far out class her and do a far better job than her. With that said, I'm a huge skadi simp and even with that information I still M6-ed her and I don't regret it lol
red star is for specific strategies and not something i'd give as a general recommendation, maybe I should have made it clearer at the start
for every non-AH player, s2m3 is enough and with module she becomes arguably an above average operator
Seeing vigil be bad breaks my heart, especially when Penance and Sexas are thriving
Tactician modules please give him some love
I genuinely thought he was going to be quite good pre-release. What went wrong that turned his reviews so sour?
I keep hearing people say Vigil is bad but nobody wants to actually tell me why.
@@seagoat3852 damage potetnial is really good but his dogs are made of literal paper and he needs the 3 lives of the dogs to do that good damage, they take forever to respawn, and his s3 SP cost is pretty high. a lot of people are calling him the worst 6 star which is pretty dam sad.
@@GoobieWoobie69 not entirely bad but not good either...his s3 good for killing elite enemy in case they appear frequently while his s2 can make him become hybrid charger vanguard....but yeah his pack of dog really made out of paper, 1 hit of the high attack unit can remove one of the wolf head in instant, hope he got some module to buff him.
@@GoobieWoobie69 It honestly sounds like people are exaggerating how "bad" he is due to salt, although he needs some more def on his dogs for sure.
I think his basic talent upgrade module will make his dogs respawn incredibly quickly and solve his issues the same way Splatter changes completely with Module level 3.
You gave stars to guard Skadi but wouldn't to Eyja S2? Eyja's S2 is what makes her so good compared to all the other AOE casters out there. Carnelian doesn't even come close to Eyja overall sustained damage.
Also, Goldenglow S2 doesn't have poor scaling. Mech Accord casters hit multiple times based on drone count. You might as well say Exusiai's S3 has terrible scaling if that's the case.
Bagpipe S2 is also insanely strong. She doesn't need more than Block-1 in most cases because enemies just die from the insane burst.
Carnelian is not a sustained damage ops what's the point mentioning her?
Drone caster always benefit from attack speed more then any other buff though, another drone dont mean anything when the drone cant stack quick enough.
Bagpipe s2 kill most most enemy before they reach her? What chapter are you in??
@@nope4442 "another drone don't mean anything when the drone can't stack enough"?
If you take a look at drone casters, they are some kind of swordmasters variant where they hit twice, so adding another drone basically increased her total output by 50% (raw without another attack buff by 60%). taking her talents into consideration, she outputs strong ST and AOE dmg on her range. Overall, skill options depends on enemies and map layout.
Also the guy is praising bagpipe bro. lol
@@jimmyneutron8493 I think he’s talking about the ramp issue. But it’s confusing. But bagpipe S2 tho?
@@swift-pawedteif386 i think he is confused too haha
My saria only having S2M3 😂
Big mood, best skill. If I want to use S1 I just use Gummy. And S3 is for meme buff/debuff stuff mostly.
S2 is the bread and butter. No other medic defender can heal multiple allies and with that range.
My Saria having all M3
S1 is mainly used to funnel saria's sp regen talent
Same. But now i have her m9
@@najiv8797 My max masteries is Horn M7, the last record was GG M6
Quick and simple Masteries recommendation, just what I needed to prepare materials.
Slightly hoping for some notable 5* (or maybe 4*) later, but this is still good enough.
Edit:
I really should start making a personal planner in Excel to keep track of the materials I need...
Gamepress has an operator planner that you can use to keep track of how much mats and LMD you need. It also covers masteries and module upgrades.
You can use the calculator on gamepress
Wouldn’t say Rosmontis’ S2 stun is unreliable tbh. I still don’t recommend the avg player to put masteries on it but yeah the stun chance is fairly big on lvl7 - after using her for many years I’ve never “malded” over it, it is fairly consistent. However I will say if you want guaranteed stun to not use this skill; if you need easy stalling of multiple enemies then yeah this skill is still pretty good.
I've always thought her S2 was one of the most underrated skills in the community. Most people make it out to be absolute trash but whenever I use her with it she always carries her weight. A huge range with a large AoE stun and one of the best skill uptimes in the game is really not that bad to have. And the "practically no damage" thing people talk about is kind of silly because due to her armor piercing she'll always do SOME damage even against high armor enemies. Do I use her when I'm going all tryhard?....No. But still a fun operator I think. I hope they give her a good module.
let's take another skill into consideration- mizuki s2, which many people deem "bad": he has a 2s interval and binds for 1.3s, resulting in an approx 65% crowd control uptime
rosmontis s2 has around a 60% chance to stun per full attack (hit + 3 aftershock) for 1.5 seconds with a 3.15 interval, resulting in an approx 30% crowd control uptime
is it not the best comparison? of course, ros has bigger range and is not limited to 2 targets - but I hope this at least sets a baseline for what I expect from a skill to be worth recommending
@@Drails yeah I agree with you, I wouldn’t recommend anyone to mastery Ros’ S2 either, I’m just disagreeing/commenting on your description of her S2 and less of your mastery recommendation. I get they’re all simplified but I wouldn’t describe it as “unreliable stuns that do practically no damage.” I think that’s a little too harsh, it’s still a decent skill
I specifically use Ros S2 with Corrupting Heart S2. Her aftershock mechanic is substantially better for DPS when you get a nice stack of ATK on it. The real issue with S2 mastery is that her M3 gains are almost nonexistent.
Goddamn I forgot Fartooth's S3 ignores dodge. SN-10 here we go again
all her skills do, it comes from her 2nd talent (she ignores enemy dodge upon skill activation)
As a year 1 verteran doctor, this video clearly lack an understanding on most early operator
Ifrit S3 over S2 when S3 almost never use outside casterknight
Saria S3 over S1/S2/M9ing when this video is about "....my general recommendation if a newer player were to come up and ask "What do I mastery for X operator"... "
Giving Hoshi 0 recommend skill while giving M6 to Skadi (i have M18 Skadi+Skadialter) is just a next level bs, same reason as above
Eyja S2 (i think most people in comment section already complain about that
agreed with most of the points, but i think for Mudrock since her S2 is defensive recovery it's worth doing M1 for the 20% SP cost reduction- the other stat upgrades for M2-3 are mostly vanity (i have indulged of course) but yeah the SP cost reduction is pretty impactful just from experience in IS2 for example
sorry, isn't that exactly what's stated in the video i.e. "do m1, but not the best scaling" for mud s2?
Me, with M6 Ebenholz: yeah my boy definitely deserves that
things i would like to point out
1. Mountain S3 is the fact that it can be kinda clunky with enemies that are too light. a lot of the time, you just push them out of mountain's range and can't continuously attack. It really only works better with Elite or boss units so that he can be used as a helidrop. Has a higher value in Integrated Strategies since it allows him to shift from laneholder to helidrop mid run.
2. Maybe this was just for lack of space on the video, but Even in less intense settings, Nearlter S2 can still be valued for spot assassination, her Stun Talent, 4 shields at M1, big attack buff and defense ignore really make it ideal for removing problematic elites or bruise bosses a bit before they get close to your frontline.
3. i can't confirm this so i actually would like if someone could help me: Mlynar's Damage surpassing SA, isn't that on the condition that he gets the full scaling of his liberator trait? does he still outdamage SA even on first skill activation if you activate the skill as soon as it's ready?
he outdamages sa even when activated as a """helidrop"""
As for Stainless, S3M3 might be recommended if you are madlads trying to DPS with those devices. It's not specified in the skill description, but the device dmg scaled with Stainless ATK stat (which M3 helps) and skill level/mastery (cap at 300% and 150% Stainless ATK for main target and AOE dmg respectively)
1:34 Should've added "And Aak exists."
in the case of kaltsit i think s2 is of an equal priority as s3 because it does prove itself to have a strong of amount of use case to justify it and it is the stronger skill for generic laneholding imo
AH about to go hard with allowing alters and their counterpart in the same squad
I keep getting confused about Ebenholz's power level... It seems as though every player and ever content creator has a different opinion of his strength.
I go from seing clears of him performing surprisingly well against Steam Knight and Zarro to him losing every other dps race. From hearing positive comments once his second module was released to now finding out that it wasn't even that impactful.
Man, I just don't know what to make of it. After this video, I'll just be extremely cautious, and probably reorganize my pulls - Spalter isn't being kind to me. Already 120 pulls in.
@Derrick Cheow That's a good analysis. So he is a considerable pulling option if you personally like him and your account already has all important bases met, so you can afford investing in such small niches. I think I get it.
@@adamantiux9750 yeah, he's best if you want to specifically oneshot boss phases (as his multipliers are huge, scales well with buffs/debuffs, and he has boss/elite targeting) or the boss has several immunity phases (Ebenholz and Mystic Casters just laugh at them as it basically just ensures that they have full stacks, while other burst dmg ops cry as their uptime just gets wasted). You can see it in the showcases, the first burst hit very very hard, but his dmg just plummets afterwards as he can't build up stacks. He's very bad as a consistent dmg op tbh.
4:41 That is, uh...a very weird take re: Mudrock S2. You're forgoing 1% HP regain (which starts adding up over time), +40% ATK, and 0.4 seconds of stun (which again, can easily ramp up quite a bit over time). Really can't support the logic behind this one.
Edit: Most of these takes are pretty fair actually, my bad. I still feel like Mudrock S2 is worth M3ing, though.
The scaling is still poor. In general you are not going to be using this skill for stun or HP regen, primarily because the stun is RNG dependent and the chance remains at 30% and the extra healing is okay, but most of the time Mudrock is able to survive with her shield talent alone. It has its applications as just as a really tanky lane holder, but overall S3 is Mudrock’s bread and butter.
@@KommandantAegis A 30% chance isn't bad for how frequently the skill procs, and the added stun duration + damage is pretty good in improving margin when it comes to leaking. In general though no one is claming that Mudrock S3 isn't her best skill (Drails and I both agree on this), it's just that when you say that Mudrock S2 doesn't scale well with M2 and M3 it comes off as misleading. I mean, is it really that bad of a deal compared to what other Operators might get?
The concept of “allowing” only one M3 on certain operator (for example Ifrit or W or Mudrock, big candidates for M6) but loosely allowing others to M6 (like Phantom??) or just completely ignore their existence because of another operator (Maggy just because Ling is a better option? We’re picking best skill to M3 for operators not having a pokemon battle) makes the whole video very inconsistent and frankly idk who should take these advices tbh. Feels very misinformed for newbies since the wording makes it seems like some skills aren’t worth the masteries, but they do. For Veterans I highly doubt they don’t find this super biased.
@@ShinodaChan my general point is that in most situations, the extra gains are marginal (20% more HP regen per skill prof, 17% more damage, and a 0.4 seconds of additional stun). That’s likely why Drails considers it a M1, you can certainly go higher, but the additional benefits are just okay, and not necessarily amazing.
Also the 17% is on the assumption that it’s at 0 DEF. At higher defense levels, like 1000 it’s more significant. The skill at M1 already does 2028 ish damage (LVL90 stats) the M3 does an additional 350 damage. Even factoring somewhat high defense levels, it’s still generally not worth it. If you wanna M3 S2, it’s still fairly good, but the scaling past M1 (which’s primary benefit is that SP cost reduction) is still meh.
@@KommandantAegis Though I agree that s3 gains more from masteries than s2, I can’t agree that that makes s3 her bread and butter. It’s definitely s2, it’s a definition of bread and butter if I’ve ever seen one
Blemishine's S2 would be much better if it will become an AOE attack with sleep debuff so she can be a dps defender or a solo laner
"RNG feels bad" is an odd reason to hate Schwarz S2. It activates faster after deployment in 10 vs 13 seconds, has a much longer duration in 40s vs 25s, has better uptime in 4/7 vs 1/2 and actually does more DPS against low-defense enemies if the RNG goes your way. The range is the biggest factor though, a straight-line range is very hard to use on many maps, while the regular heavyshooter range is generally applicable. I actually often see people say Schwarz's main skill is S2, and I really do see their point.
for the record I have schwarz m6 on 3 accounts:
it's useful in fringe scenarios like certain daily cc maps or cc5 crab lane as notable examples, but I often find myself using other operators for burst if the map restraints prevent myself from placing schwarz s3 at all; s2 can be a great skill, especially in sniperknights, but in general use it feels clunky, unreliable, and something i'd rather not recommend
@@Drails fair enough. But yes RNG is a bit of a lame mechanic.
*me with s2m3 conviction* : RNG is fun!! (Nah not really .. i find it annoying but still fun(?))
I think GoldenGlow's Skill 1 is underrated and is worth m3, it's one of highest total damage caster skills ( only caster skills that can beat it is ceobe skill 2 but under very specific circumstances, and probably ifrit skill 3 might beat it out),
Nah,, rockrock s2 deal more dmg.
was the Ling S3 "80% solo stages" an actual number supported by list of stages she can solo with S3 or was it just a random eyeball big number slapped ?
i heard it from zafang or something so it MUST be true!!
on a more serious note, a while back a friend of mine counted ling stages on arkrec and gave around that and i've been using it ever since, no idea if he doublecounted CMs though
@@Drails now I kinda wonder whether that number is Ling solo or Ling S3 solo, since it's surprisingly high considering a lot of map has drones and Ling S3 doesn't feel like it can tackle those stages
but w/e guess i'll look up myself then, thanks for the answer
Essentially Ling can do any stages with her S3 so long as she has the whole bank of dp, so 2-3 flagbearers worth.
There are some situations her summons struggle in like possessed enemies in the story chapters who deal more damage than they take usually and people who can execute like Emperors blade and Frostnova.
I mean honestly its a 4 block behemoth that deals arts damage to all blocked enemies, Ling is literally the best lane holder in the game making Mudrock and Kal'sit look bad. Ofc to achieve this she needs a hell of a lot of dp.
oh def not ling s3 only, that number is ling all skills
*coughs* Honestly I almost have Saria at m9. I actually don't use her s2 very much but I flip back n forth between her skill 1 for normal shenanigans and her s2 for IS. And funnily enough I M3d Eyjas S2 before her S3. I used it a whole lot more and if i needed a strong eyja s3 id just borrow one. Shes m6 now tho
not a bad choice at all i have her maxed out including M9! i use all her skills at least sometimes, she's one of the most flexible defenders imo
@@soph13s her and Horn are the only defenders id M3 honestly. I agree with you that Saria is quite flexible 😁
Oh a lot of 6* has useful s2. Thanks, finally I know which to prioritize. I have low resources, if not I'd M3 some skills I like.
Btw about Vigil, I'm sure because Texas alter and Penance too op so that devs makes him bad, makes him the first 6* welfare not recommended by others.
As a fairly new player, i absolutely appreciate this mastery guide. Thankiu sir. Either way since im too low-brained to use mudrock's s3 ever, so i just use and m3 her s2 instead hehe
I see texas alter s2>>>> surtr s3 in damage a lot but I've never seen anyone go further, almost like they're trolling and hiding something important.
Is it a theoretical 0 resist enemy? total skill damage? damage per hit? damage over time taken for deployments?
dps, 3k vs 2.7k against 0 res - sexas has 30% res shred while surtr has 22 flat
surtr is significantly stronger, don't get me wrong, but it's an easy metric to go by when many people know how much damage surtr deals
@@Drails thanks
that chen art tho
Never knew hoshi was that thicc either, holy moly...thats 1 attractive team
Definitely can't agree with Rosa, as one, who use her a lot.
It's implied that you use operator a priori and we don't consider the fact that you can just Surtr\Chen\Ling-ing any stage and other operators are not needed generally.
In that case her S2 is a HUGE contribution to stage clearing.
60k is very decent physical damage, 65s is a pretty long cooldown for it though, that's fo sure. But if we go away of considering skill in isolation it become much more efficient due to def-ignoring and very often overdps a lot of (not broken) other physicall dps skill, that combines with her range and especially multi-target attack. You will take her if there are high-def enemies anyway (that is common case nowdays), and long duration is also often a good thing. In addition her range is VERY often give you unique possibilities.
S3 is muuuuch more niche option and in that case you transform her into "specialist" operator instead of DPS and abolish her talent (roughly speaking).
The only reason that I can see of not giving her M3 on S2 (implied that you already decided to use her) is low damage scaling. Roughly from 50 to 60. But cutting cooldown from 80 to 65 is actually a big thing anyway.
Don't see it noted elsewhere here, NTR's S2 has an M1 breakpoint for shield amount that might be relevant
my eyes are pained at seeing no star on eyja s2
id say, if were not considering eyja s2m3 nor suzuran s2m3. M3ing bagpipe s2 feels a bit too much
that's true tbh, I should have put bag as m0 and then added a note about her m3 being an afk thing
I love the ling S3 description
and that's true
thank you mister drails. very cool.
Damn is Vigil that bad? I was looking forward to building him, can you explain why he's so terrible? One would think at least the wolfs's 3 health bar gimmick would be worth something
I read through his skills and it seems like his skill is not dp focus but dmg focus (S1M3: gives 7dp, S2M3: gives 2 initial DP, and gain 1 for each enemy killed, S3M3: gives gradually 12 dp) so the DP is heavily depending on the dogs or his skills just not focus on DP spamming at all. And his skills focus on increasing dogs' damage but if the dogs' stats are low then it makes the whole 1 dp/kill (S2) pretty much useless. And his talents are just ignoring enemies' def so i kinda guess he's quite niche for a supposing vanguard
30s respawn on dog head when each dog life individually is so weak is unoptimal, paired with the supposed dps focus which would have been fine if not for the dps also being pitiful
to put into perspective:
hypnos (blacknight summon) has 2.6k health
vigil's dog has 1.1k health
@@Drails considering that he has 3 dogs in total it's 3,3k HP, on top of that they regen with time, which Blacknights' Hypnos can't, so it doesn't make any sense
@@bimchik but when all dogs died and respawn only 1.1k hp will get them kill easily
@@Drails Thank you and Linh for explaining, i just looked up the wolf pack's full stats and paired with the 30sec cooldown on the wolfs and dps(or lack there of) focused kit, yeah its pretty abysmal, what a shame, also i just noticed the X over Saria's S2 on the thumbnail, very nice
i see, its valid oppinion too. but yea its still depends on player gamestyle too. for me if that skill have a charge i would lookup if its gonna add another charge or reduce the sp cost in the mastery. but yea solid recomendation
i see siege, "please use a flag", no reject flags, embrace skill.
I disagree with Saga's S3 being better than her S2. I rarely need a flagbearer with her S2. She fills up the DP quickly while killing enemies on 4 tiles simultaneously and ignores her limitation of not fatally wounding her enemies. She could be a solo lane holder for a while until you wait for the DP to fill up and place your guard behind her
I kinda feel I've used more nearl S2 and gav S2 then S3 (i.e. should be a general recommendation). The Gav S2's longer range / longer duration / higher DPH is just better then S3 (except on high difficulty), a bit like mountain S3. similarly although nearl S3 have a higher upper limit then S2, but its just a good safety belt in case anything happens.
And in 2:32, I think you put the star on a M0 skill, is it intended?
imo, nearlter s2 s3 about equal for general use considering SN just hit on EN, and historically true damage has been good for ignoring bullshit mechanics - besides, the deploy limit ignore matters slightly more
gav2 gav3 it was really close between considering both skills (what I chose to go with) vs ignoring s1 s3 altogether and only recommending s2, which feels kinda off given that in a vacuum, I think gav3 is slightly stronger assuming you don't have any of the super good cycling units (i.e. mlynar)
and yeah rosa is a editing error, i've mentioned it in the pinned comment - thanks for the feedback
Nearl s2 and s3 are both good, heck even s1 is good as budget blaze
Nice video. Very helpful for me.
I wonder if you can make another video like this but for 5/4*
in the works
Nice video! I am glad you didn't just digest other content but used your own words and in a visually pleasing manner! Well done!
Here is my personal takes on some difference in opinion:
Shining S2 is great for AFK setups in scenarios where constant damage hits an operator, like DoT damage. It starts to really suck when the incoming damage has a greater delay than her heal. When she shield expired you effectively wasted her skill. Overall mediocre at best but I wanted to point out possible usage scenarios.
Same for Nightingale S2. She shield is awesome when it actually gets to absorb damage, otherwise it is wasted.
I wouldn't recommend Phantom S3 if the player has Project Red. The RNG nature of the status effect sucks and his S2 fits his role better, which is to double-drop on an enemy and SHRED them.
Blemishine S2 IS great... but the mention of how difficult sleep is to utilize for the average player should be mentioned. Also, personally, I dont like the range restriction. Should be a tile bigger.
yeah phantom s3 was mentioned as a more specific pick for cc given his prevalence there (see 6,7,8,9), in general use red is likely more consistent, but tbh the extra range and clone does make them really close
as for blemi, makes sense
i teared up when i saw what you had for ebenholz....i thought i was lucky to get him from a random single but i guess not! also horn is a pain for me,i use her in all teams cause she,liskarm are my only built defenders(e1),i have czerny,hung,bubble,matterhorn,durnar and gummy but i havent toughed any of them.horn goes to 27 dp cost at e2 and for a noob like me thats really hard to use.
thnx for the vid!is really helpful
just use a flagbearer
@@yuki._.6406 myrtle is part of my team,always! im working on elysium atm and on cantabile too.thnx for the tip tho,you re the 1st arknights player that actually gave me advice!!
Lol imagine advising TWO guard Skadi masteries but saying Eyja S2 is not worth it...
9:36 Lmao Dusk S1. Yes it's better, but if you advice this with gold, then Eyja S2 is also gold for the same reason...
Well in relation to the operators, it makes sense. Whenever you are not using eyja S3 u either doing annihilation (which is balanced around 4star) or just trolling.
there's a specific niche where skadi s3 is very useful (ah)
i've literally outlined where eyja s2 is useful and mentioned to m3 it if you're interested in afk strats lmao
you seem to not understand how relativity works
Angelina S1 "Just use a caster"
Me: "no"
I really need to start using Mudrock' S3... like everyone is always pushing for that mastery and I keep using her with S2M2 lol
Updated version please
Super cool your video, thanks for the information. Could you make a video about the modules? Just if it's possible, would be interesting!
M1 on Ifrit S2 and M0 on Eyja S2... Yeah, I think I have seen enough...
*me with both of them at M6 be like* :
Hmm interesting
Preety great video I have 2 suggestions:
I would recomend raising Eyja's S2 to M3 for IS specifically IS3 with the broken Caster/Summoner hand that gives +2sp/s for spammable skill core casters. Not to mention the skill scales with Chocolate Sphegetti, Regeant 65 and Spinach.
Saria should have stars on all her skills cuz she is one of the best M3 candidates. S2 is used along with her Lvl2 module in places like red mist stages or for units like Gavial alter to charge 2SP per skill for allies that are around her
Firstly, casters in IS3 collectively suck. That hand is actually ling hand not eyja s2 hand. Secondly, there is no red mist maps, and saria is generally considered a troll pick in IS3 due to horn's high priority. Doing eyja s2m3 for the current meta of IS3 should be considered trolling - in fact, picking eyja in IS3 is trolling
@@tsunderekermit GG Eyja and Passenger exists so IDK what u mean by casters sucking? GG in particular is the best counter to multiple enemies due to mapwide range and not attacking them directly on S3. Passenger has huge range and a lot of relics buff him up. With the caster relic Eyja can use her S2 every other hit once it snowballs to max. IDK what u mean by casters suck
@@asheqabeer1798 If you are mentioning eyja passenger as good picks for IS3 then the only logical conclusion is that you are unfamiliar with the high difficulty meta. This is okay, I don't like to be corrected when I pretend to know something either.
GG is the only one remotely worth picking out of the three, and even then she's a waste of hope. The rationale behind caster hate is IS3 difficulty stacking grants +20res for all enemies, sounds not too bad, then you realize that cuts your already low arts damage down to a half or even a third for bosses (70->90res). GG had res pen so it's not so bad, but the meta is still to pick high dph physical carries.
@@tonyjiang1976 Alright your clearly more knowledgable than me on this topic in which case I want to ask what is the meta of IS2/3 in your opinion? I admit im not a know it all I merely finished all 3 bosses in IS2 on Calamity diffuclty and havent played IS3 granted u seem to know more I would like to hear your opinion on the topic since there doesn't seem to be anyone talking about the IS meta esp for the hardest difficulties. (P.S. no sarcasm I genuinely wanna hear and learn what you have to say as I am unfamiliar with the high difficulty meta of IS)
@@asheqabeer1798 Generally people use gavial alter or ling as an opener and try to get e2 mlynar immediately. From there the picks become more varied. I've been experimenting lately and Texas alter is really good at both dealing with the flying fishes and also just general crowd control - s2 can be used against high priority targets like rat king as well.
For ending 1, you want to find a way to kill the boss from afar, it is generally accepted that horn or fiametta are the best ways to do this. Ending 3 you want as much damage as you can as stalling the fight leads to significant healing pressure - generally picking at least one of nearl alter, pozyomka, or suzuran helps with this significantly. Ending 2 is the hardest as you need to find a way to cc the boss and somehow deal with his unblockable phase 2. For ending 2 in particular gg is actually a decent pick as her drones still attack even when she's stunned.
helpful, thanks
My OPs mastery is almost what was recommended on this list. But I really like afk starts so I even mastered skills thats are auto or permanent when its activated. like both Shining and Nightingales S2. my Saria is M9 so yeah her S2 as well. my NTR kinght is M6 S1&S2. Eyja S2. Hoshis S2. Suzuran S2. sadly but if I had both Goldenglow and Bagpipe. i would master S3 of course. but ill also master both of their skill 2 as well.
And here I thought me M9 my Nian was a meme but 2 of her skills are actually very good
Her skill that let her deal art damage is good
You won’t know true pain until you try to get gaviel, mlynar and texas as a f2p/monthly card only player.
Jokes on you, I S2M3 Mudrock's skill. Great guide!
I see that you're treading a fine line between calling something "niche" and being used in "specific strategies" on a handful of operators.
*gasp* You forgot the best 6 Star, La Pluma which should be M6 guaranteed.
Poor Ebenholz One simple change to his S3 & he’d be Much Better (Only Attacks on Full Charge)
great vid, thank you
I have a friend who M9 godssenger then quit. Love using him on IS2 😂
How did you arrange the appearance order of the operators? It was weird seeing Vigil be branded the worst somewhere in the middle.
Also, small request: please use more than one BGM if this slideshow style is how you'll do this guide in the future
it was initially meant to be release order but the sources I downloaded the images from had it mixed between release and internal ID number, which you can see on aceship's github - I really should have arranged it according to release, but my editing software was already dying with 300-400 images in it XD
I dont respect someone who can't see a full potential of an op just from a vaccum. Calling Vigil the worst 6 star in the game when he's gonna be core unit for vanguard knight along with the other 6 vnaguard and *mizuki existing alone nulifying for the fact he isn't the worst 6 star*. I feel like you didn't do much research at all into this video cause yike Mostima being *good* even with Module she's barely use. Phantom basically get powercreep by Texas alter in term of dmg so his only niche is Cc with his clone now. So saying s2 is the best to m3 feel reduntant when Texas alter do art dmg with art res debuff making her dmg expedentionally higher than Phantom not to mention Phantom also lose in term of dmg to Red S1
>vigil core unit for vanguardknights
nice comment buddy.
bagpipe will always be the core for VGknight, not even every God in existence can change that. there's really nothing thay Vigil can do amd others can't replicate even slightly
why type many words to explain shit op
a vanguard printing garbage amounts of dp let alone a 6* will never be a good idea
at least mizuki deals damage
and yeah lets just assume everyone pulls a limited specialist so we can just forget phantom exists
also red s1 > phantom s2 take is the dumbest shit ever, i can safely assume youre garbage at this game
Literally me: *upgrade S3 Pallas to M3 for decent buff*
Just my opinion.
all skill from saria are useable but if you an afk strat player just masteries skill 1 & 2. skill 3 are optional for hardcore strat or big brain strat.
Waiting for update till now :P
As a guy that started playing a few months ago I can’t even tell who some chars are, they are not named, then I think you put skin some and are even harder to identify. This is not a beginner friendly guide, but I don’t think it’s for veterans, why would they need this info?
I know that Mudrock gets quite the mileage out of Blemishine's talent, especially skill 2, but how about Penance?
Also, when it is said that Mylnar does twice as much damage as "your sworn ally", i suppose it is about he taking half the time to reactivate his skill?
for Mylnar, doubling silverash is using his full charge time for the archtype's trait IE 40ish seconds, if you use S3l the moment his SP is charged, he is slightly higher then SA's total damage.
Mudrock is a unique case because if you were to blok 3 enemies, their and mudrock's own attack(with blemi) are enough to activate her S2 (4sp) almost every 2 seconds. Its very effective.
For Penance, only her S3 use defensive recovery and even then, its 24 sp. Meaning her own atk(with blemi) will not have much impact on how fast she can cycle the skill if nothing comes her way.
As for mllynar, you can now check his actual number in english site like gamepress and compare that yourself. First, mlynar S3 have 40sp cost, that alone is twice faster than silverash (90sp or redeploy). Second, he have big self atk buff in his class trait. Third, S3 activation DOUBLE his current atk buff. As a bonus, mlynar have talents where he increase his atk even more and deals additional true damage.
Think of it like this, mlynar can use the same silverslash from the get go, but he have so many additional buff and damage that he can easily go even higher.
Mlynar have problem where he have 0 block and focused on his newspaper (doing nothing) outside of his skill, but his S3 damage is so ridiculous (see chen alter) you can just let the enemy build up and sweep them in one go. Mlynar himself also actually pretty tanky for a guard so you dont need to be afraid of him dying in the middle of the sweep (unlike you, silverslash).
And because waves of invisible enemies are very rare, mlynar is straight up better if all you ever care about is damage. Almost twice better.
@@armaros820 bro the crazy part is he really said he does twice as dmg than SA 💀
not m9 Saria smh mh
Are you going to be posting a vid on 'future units to pull for' since you've posted several mastery recommendations future units?
I post one of these every half a year or so, my last one is still sort of relevant I guess
I agree to this list from a gameplay perspective but from a fun and fucking around perspective some niche skills are really fun to experiment with also why vigil is considered bad?
The only thing i do know is this video is going to give some wrong thoughts for new players.
Saria's S2 bad? I thought it's good with module that gives sp to allies
it's not bad, but m3 is really not needed
@@Drails I see. Got it
Saria is my only M9 operator. Then again she's waifu so maybe I'm biased xD
Still wonder why eyja saria and justyna s2 not getting star, and magallan s3 can do solo emperor blade normal stage
I still laugh at "best guard skill"
Tachanka S2: *stares in russian*
For ifrit... I don't M3 her S3 and not often using her S3, im always using her S2 and M3 her S2 for debuffing, bcuz im always using her as debuffer and specially when there was a boss with high deff, i will use ifrit S2 and Exusiai S3 to kill it
Same,, rarely use her s3. S2 can hit drone and help other physical dps like thorn and sniper to kill enemies.
I NEED THE *5 AND *4 MASTERY LIKE THIS
in the works
whoa, Vigil is THAT bad?
I mean yeah, Tacticians are kinda meh in general but I thought he was better than this, his s3 damage seems pretty good for a vanguard and it's technically a 3 block vanguard as well (well, if his wolves dont start dropping)
tacticians are a fine archetype, I really liked beanstalk and blacknight
vigil is.... significantly weaker than blacknight, in my opinion - it'll take a long time to explain, but suffice to say 30s recharge for 1.1k health per head is really suboptimal considering blacknight's summon has 2.6k health
@@Drails damn its that squishy huh... I thought the dog can tank well since it got 3 lives but i guess not
@@argonaut4432 it got 3 lives, but Vigil's DPS gimmick needs all 3 lives on his wolf pack to survive
yet HG has the "good idea" to essentialy split the summon's HP to 3 with no survivability compensation
it's essentially more like Vigil has 3 summons in 1 tile and he needs all 3 to survive to do well with his kit, which is hard bcos each heads are not tanky at all
For me I am doing s2m3 saria firslt.. since it aoe heal. But now I have her m9.
Well I have a lot masteries to fill in lol. I think about half my six stars.
Next 5* 🙏
Curious about some things regarding Ebenholz
1. Why is he considered the 2nd worst 6-star?
2. How does he actually compare with other Mystic Casters, Indigo and Iris? i don't hear people being harsh on her but i can't say it's the same case with Eben.
As I understand it, the main issue with Ebenholz is that he's supposed to be a "boss killer", a single-target burst damage unit (heck, his S3 even makes him prioritize Elite enemies and Bosses), but in practice he ends up being weaker than many other burst damage/sweeper units. There are a number of reasons for it. One is that most of the popular "sweepers" not only do insane single target damage but ALSO do AoE AT THE SAME TIME (Surtr, SilverAsh, Chalter, etc.). Then add on to that that Ebenholz can build up his charges until the Boss enters his range, then he throws them all and does a nice chunk of damage, and then... so long as enemies remain in his range, he just keeps attacking instead of building up charges. And his charged up attacks are just so much stronger, while his normal ones (even with S3 buff) are not great. It's why the main "meta" way to play him is to pair him with Sleep units, since he won't attack Sleeping enemies and will instead build up charges to chuck at them when they wake up. Which Iris already does on her own. Now, obviously Iris and Indigo have lower damage than Ebenholz, but they're also not 6 stars. No one expects them to go toe-to-toe with Surtr or SilverAsh. But when a character is released as a "6-star boss killer" and doesn't even hold a candle to the already existing sweepers, it's an issue. Ebenholz's modules help a little, but, yeah. His newest one makes all his attacks AoE, which is nice, but most people agree that what he really needs is a way to keep building up charges even when enemies are in his range. Would make him waaaay stronger, but even then, probably not on par with Surtr and the like - just decent. All that said, I adore Ebenholz's design and will get him regardless xD
ejyas S2 is absolutely a mastery priority, what are you on about? her s2 and s3 are some of the best caster skills in the game for completely different uses.
Why is Rosa's S2 starred and not the S3 when the text clearly favors S3? Was that just an editing error?
editing error, as per pinned comment
Is ebenholz S2 really not good at all? I thought it's kinda like W S2 but with more sp cost and dmg and no stun
i would say to not disgest anything 100 percent in this video. i watched till the end and find lots of weird opinions about some of the operators.
I think the gist of it is that the skill can only reach it’s max potential if he never wastes attack charges on enemies, but the problem is that if there are that few enemies coming through where he sets up his S2 summons, they won’t be very useful and he is better replaced by an operator with more utility. And it goes without saying that if he is constantly using up his attack charges on enemies the skill is wholly underwhelming, summoning only 2 summons per skills use. W’s S2 is completely consistent as she doesn’t rely on not attacking for he skill to function, plus her mines last longer than the summons
@Diah Hamidah do you mind elaborating about the weird opinions you mentioned?
@@Drails i would like to point out some, but saying ' operator a is worst' ' operator b is bad ' without further elaborate, in a video about mastery guide; idk, doesn't sit right with me and makes me can't bear to watch it again. its more fair to just explain their skills and give the audence to judge if the ops are worthy or not.
i gonna point out about magallan. its saying for s3 just use ling, thats quite confusing statement for me. you cant compare these both, they have different, very very different usage.
too bad tho, i thought it would be a video i can recommend to my newbie friends xD
Personally I can't wait to pull Ebenholz hell that S2 is getting M3ed right away
Wtf you trolling
Saria s1m3
Eyja s2m3
Mudrock s2m3
Those are whole game changer
lmao
Eyja, Saria, bagpipe S2 isnt priority ? You're joking right ?
Had to watch this video because of mudrock 🤭
why is vigil worse than eben? I need some context
dps oriented gimmick tactician that fails both at dps and his gimmick
s3 is based off the summon's atk for the extra arts damage and he gets no inherent atk buff, so last I checked on-skill dps was really low even for a vanguard
as for the gimmick, well, he takes 30s to respawn one head which seems fine at first but then you realise:
blacknight's summon has 2.6k hp
vigil's summon has 1.1k hp
@@Drails damn i wanted to raise him :( he's so edgy looking
@@rayreiii3501 raise whoever you want to, im going to m9 ebenholz and if you want to raise an operator thats not regarded as meta by the community, do it! I find that the 'bad' operators are often the most fun ones to play
@@Drails Wait wtf? That's not the math on Vigil according to EN translated resources.
For one thing: Respawn on dogs is 25s at E2. 30s is his E0. He also spawns with two shadows so on deploy that's 2.2k HP at least, still too squishy but he doesn't start with 1.1k summon HP.
S3 explicitly says it uses his ATK for the arts damage and that he and the wolfpack both do the arts damage to blocked enemies, so that's 271 (542/2) arts multiplied by 3-6 hits. Personal DPS on skill should be 1626 before arts (542x3), Wolf base DPS is 297 (371/1.25) x shadow count. Adding the arts to that, his auto attack should be 2429 DPS (very respectable) and his wolves should do 514 x shadow count. Overall assuming he's blocking, he should be doing nearly 3k even assuming the worst case of one wolf, and nearly 4k with three.
Is literally every EN resource just mistranslated? Is he bugged? Or is my math shite? His on skill S3 DPS should be extremely high if he's blocking. Not comparable to Bagpipe S3's monstrous output of consistent 4.6k raw DPS before talent RNG (due to the huge variance and block restriction), but that's a pretty stupidly high bar. If he's using the dog ATK stat for S3 arts it sounds legitimately bugged, like the fuckery with Lunacub not working until patch.
Which one is Inez?
Hello guys ! Sorry for the question, what means « AH players » ?
It refers to players that use "Abyssal Hunters" operators
@@KeKhye Ho yeah ! make sense, thank you a lot
I still havent e1 my shining
I'd add NG S2M1 to the list cuz -1 SP +1 charge for yall lazy AFKights
I wanted to include ng for lowstep but I thought that would be a bit too obscure lmao
Why Poca has a Star on S2 instead of S3 thinkge and u dont recc masteries on S2 either
uhhhhhh lets not talk about that
What is "Scaling"?