Hey guys ! Here is a great website to use for free to analyze any playlist whether or not you are sceptic about it... analyze Spotify playlist here: www.isitagoodplaylist.com/
Thank you for the insightful information. I'm also a recording artist whose genre is primarily Smooth Jazz and Instrumental Pop. I have used Playlister Club for months with minimal success. My music has been placed on several playlists, but the numbers (as well as some of the reviews) were less than satisfactory. I'll give an example. One comment I have received stated, "Good vibes, nice vocals." Hold on. What song were they listening to? My music is totally Instrumental; there are no vocals. Another review I have received is a song that has received excellent reviews from other sources, but this one critic said, "Very repetitive, falls short in the middle of the song." This is when I knew something was wrong. My response to a lot of critics and naysayers who give less than satisfactory reviews is this: "If you came here expecting to hear the kind of stuff you want to hear, this is not your album." That's been my motto from day one and I stand by it 💯. There's also a saying on some sites (and I think these people are phony, just my personal opinion) that say, "You gotta invest in your career." While that may be true, there's a difference between "wise" investments and "unwise" investments. Paying for streams is not wise at all; let alone, it can cause a song, album or entire profile to be removed from Spotify. I've seen this happen with so many independent artists. It's not worth it. My analysis is this: everyone who is an independent artist is already successful and prolific. If one only receives a small number of streams, they have reached a lot of people. Success is not determined by a streaming site's perception of it, it is determined by the artist's dedication to the art. From my perspective, Playlister Club just doesn't cover the music that I do and it just isn't worth the time or money for me. Streams don't really pay. A stream is only worth a small fraction of a penny. My music is released on audio CDs. This is the month that I will be ending my relationship with Playlister Club and remain focused on my craft. My music will never change, and these reviews will not cause me to change my genre. Thank you very much for the information on this. Great minds think alike. Much Success to You and Your Music. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
You're welcome and thank you for the comment and your thoughts! I agree with you! Just keep pushing and pursuing your passion good things will come if you keep at it. Good luck with the music! Best wishes to you!
Quality content. I've noticed that indiefaction playlist too. It's interesting that Spotify doesn't do anything about them when it's obviously some kind of bot thing. It's frustrating that they target indie artists and potentially get them in trouble (or mess up their chance of getting on algo playlists) without the indie artist even wanting to be on that playlist. I'm hopeful that Spotify is aware that artists are being added to these bot playlists without their consent.
Thank you for the comment. I emailed support@Spotify and they never got back to me about this issue. So, they probably don't care, lol. If you see yourself on any of these playlists, email the curator and they will take you off. And you are right that bot generated data is only going to hurt you in the end. I reccomend just sticking to ads for marketing versus any type of playlist service. Good luck with the music!
it’s crazy , i saw a video about this service last week and then randomly at 4 am i’m thinking if it’s worth it and this video is on my recommendations
@@404mali wow! really? So, you wrere impressed by these numbers? Watch this other video I did only using a $100 budget spread out over 12 days and I tripled my numbers from Playlister which was 3 months for $200
Thanks for the content! I almost registered with this outfit, then something told me to research any reviews there might be. Just possibility there could be bot infiltration is a deal breaker for me. Streams are good, obviously, but retention is even better imo.
Absolutely! We gotta look out for all one another in this independent artist music game, Two Thursdays from now I am going to post my results from 6 months using this service you might find that useful too! Cheers and good luck with all your music ventures !
just glancing at the streams per listener and after looking up the songs, these might not have been the right ones to pitch, intro at the beginning and no hook out the gate. playlisters like very specific formats from my experience. would love to see this tried again with a more hook heavy song or one that is catchy. keep up the good work
I would agree with that but they claim they have 93,000 playlists so if this true , then there is playlist for any type of song or artist in the markety (that is what they also claim) again they are claiming this....lol.
Hi there thanks a lot for this upload. I have been contacted today by one of their reps asking me if I want to join their A&R programme as I do compile playlists. So it seems it's not bot driven. However, it breaks my heart seeing that their asking 40 USD for a campaign, I studied music business so I know how hard it is to break-even... I will have another look at their email tomorrow and I will dig deeper... not sure how this works, and I like to do my own due diligence when adding tracks to my playlists without being forced to over-produce the output in terms of quantity and quality... cheers xo
Hello Rosa, I received that same email with twice to two different accounts. So, just beware. You may not use bots but in my experience a lot of the larger playlists followings do unfortunately. Yes, you are exactly right, the return is not good that is why you have to look long term like a business, expect to invest in yourself now and hopefully down the road you can start making that money back.There are many outlets to do this once you have developed a loyal fanbase. Anything is possible, just takes time and consistency. Thanks for watching and good luck with the music!
Will not lie, listened to the whole EP... Yes music is subjective, but I do not think objectively speaking, the EP is something that was (or is at this time) desired over by the common consumer. Are there people who will listen to it? Absolutely, though he went down 4x his old monthly listeners, he still has about 450 so obviously people still like it. I just agree with the playlisters as to why it might not take off. Also to bring up placement points, regardless 11k or 45k followers, that does NOT guarantee your song being played. Most songs are put into a playlist of hundreds of songs to begin with, and remember that they likely built the playlist up overtime. How often do you listen to other peoples playlists instead of your own? I am not saying this as an insult or as a "you are wrong", but you do have to remember that activity among following is fraction.
@@zmanzbrah Think it comes down to the factors you said. 1. Do you have the money to spend, 2. are you unknown enough where ANY views is good views (e.i. having under 100-200 monthly listeners), and 3. is it produced well enough where there is a target audience for it. Seeing that you were able to mass up thousands of monthly listeners via this EP and your own song you made, I do think it would be worth the money to set on if you are just starting out. Though being where you are at right now (14k ish monthly listeners), obviously someone like you, it won't benefit that much for $50-200 for an extra 1-2k monthly listeners. At your stage, you can probably use your 14k to get free features from people under 10k listeners and grow through their fanbase as well. Though someone like me (only 100 monthly listeners and just started), it is likely worth the money to get on playlists. As far as the site goes, I am 50/50. I don't think the playlists are entirely fake, just filled with inactive followers who don't use the playlists that much. I did do it though for 30 days for one song with $48 price, and so far a day later, I have gotten 9 placements. I would be happy to share my results with you for the song at the end of 30 days if you wanted another base for an updated follow up video.
@@zmanzbrah i have 13 current placements and just renewed my weekly playlist club thing. ive liked my results, i will say the reviews feel fake to me but i care more about playlist placements rn since im a nobody. i just released my music last week....so in one week i made 13 playlists.
@@KATZ3y3_GAMEZ that is nice to hear! Maybe they have improved their services, please gives us an update and let us know how that goes. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
Hey! Thanks for the question. Around 1 or 2 at a time. You aren't going to get any major boosts with this service but you will get some so if you have nothing then may be its good, And.... Honestly, it is very hard to say like I mentioned in the video there are other playlists that will add you on their playlist hoping you will email them because you see your streams go up out of no where, so you pay(I did this any they all ask for a fee) but they are fake and bot streams. Mostly, you are paying for playlisters that have no clout. I don't know how they do it but you see some of them have 30k likes to their playlist and I got 2 steams in a whole month, wtf, lol. I recommend checking out my other video with budgets $100 and $25 for facebook ads you get real listeners and real followers. Good luck whatever you decide and ask any other questions you may have! Cheers!
I asked Spotify if thats ok to use they said no you should go to spotifys own ads to promote which is obviously them trying to make more money but im still scared of them blocking me for that.
@@zmanzbrah i mean spotify said you should not trust plattforms besides spotifys own ads. But i dont know if they punish for using this Website. I dont think so but i have no idea.
@@peterk3556 Ahh I see, I think you are right they want your business so of course they will tell you that. But it isn't like it's illegal or anything or you are buying fake streams you are just paying for a service to get your song on a playlist no harm in that.
I am happy to help! We all in this game together! Be sure to keep an eye out this Thursday I will be posting my Part 2 of this review then! 6 months of using this service with my electronic dance music. Thanks again!
Hey guys ! Here is a great website to use for free to analyze any playlist whether or not you are sceptic about it... analyze Spotify playlist here: www.isitagoodplaylist.com/
Hello!! I can't find the second part, in which you analyze the 6 months of use! are you going to upload it?
Thank you for the content!!!
@@davidcaraballomoreno7302 Hi! Thank you. Here you go: th-cam.com/video/EMANI_hL5Vg/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the insightful information. I'm also a recording artist whose genre is primarily Smooth Jazz and Instrumental Pop. I have used Playlister Club for months with minimal success. My music has been placed on several playlists, but the numbers (as well as some of the reviews) were less than satisfactory. I'll give an example. One comment I have received stated, "Good vibes, nice vocals." Hold on. What song were they listening to? My music is totally Instrumental; there are no vocals. Another review I have received is a song that has received excellent reviews from other sources, but this one critic said, "Very repetitive, falls short in the middle of the song." This is when I knew something was wrong. My response to a lot of critics and naysayers who give less than satisfactory reviews is this: "If you came here expecting to hear the kind of stuff you want to hear, this is not your album." That's been my motto from day one and I stand by it 💯.
There's also a saying on some sites (and I think these people are phony, just my personal opinion) that say, "You gotta invest in your career." While that may be true, there's a difference between "wise" investments and "unwise" investments. Paying for streams is not wise at all; let alone, it can cause a song, album or entire profile to be removed from Spotify. I've seen this happen with so many independent artists. It's not worth it. My analysis is this: everyone who is an independent artist is already successful and prolific. If one only receives a small number of streams, they have reached a lot of people. Success is not determined by a streaming site's perception of it, it is determined by the artist's dedication to the art.
From my perspective, Playlister Club just doesn't cover the music that I do and it just isn't worth the time or money for me. Streams don't really pay. A stream is only worth a small fraction of a penny. My music is released on audio CDs. This is the month that I will be ending my relationship with Playlister Club and remain focused on my craft. My music will never change, and these reviews will not cause me to change my genre.
Thank you very much for the information on this. Great minds think alike. Much Success to You and Your Music.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
You're welcome and thank you for the comment and your thoughts! I agree with you! Just keep pushing and pursuing your passion good things will come if you keep at it. Good luck with the music! Best wishes to you!
Quality content. I've noticed that indiefaction playlist too. It's interesting that Spotify doesn't do anything about them when it's obviously some kind of bot thing. It's frustrating that they target indie artists and potentially get them in trouble (or mess up their chance of getting on algo playlists) without the indie artist even wanting to be on that playlist. I'm hopeful that Spotify is aware that artists are being added to these bot playlists without their consent.
Thank you for the comment. I emailed support@Spotify and they never got back to me about this issue. So, they probably don't care, lol. If you see yourself on any of these playlists, email the curator and they will take you off. And you are right that bot generated data is only going to hurt you in the end. I reccomend just sticking to ads for marketing versus any type of playlist service. Good luck with the music!
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain the site for inexperienced and hesitant, artists like us. Really really helpful
Awesome! I am happy to hear that! Good luck with the music!
it’s crazy , i saw a video about this service last week and then randomly at 4 am i’m thinking if it’s worth it and this video is on my recommendations
Thanks for checking the video.... So, what did you decide? You think it is worth it?
@@zmanzbrah def gonna try it
@@404mali wow! really? So, you wrere impressed by these numbers? Watch this other video I did only using a $100 budget spread out over 12 days and I tripled my numbers from Playlister which was 3 months for $200
@@zmanzbrahcan you show me the link
Thanks for the content! I almost registered with this outfit, then something told me to research any reviews there might be. Just possibility there could be bot infiltration is a deal breaker for me. Streams are good, obviously, but retention is even better imo.
Thanks for the comment and glad I could help, good luck with the music!
Thank you for giving us the straight up idea of how well it works
Absolutely! We gotta look out for all one another in this independent artist music game, Two Thursdays from now I am going to post my results from 6 months using this service you might find that useful too! Cheers and good luck with all your music ventures !
just glancing at the streams per listener and after looking up the songs, these might not have been the right ones to pitch, intro at the beginning and no hook out the gate. playlisters like very specific formats from my experience. would love to see this tried again with a more hook heavy song or one that is catchy. keep up the good work
I would agree with that but they claim they have 93,000 playlists so if this true , then there is playlist for any type of song or artist in the markety (that is what they also claim) again they are claiming this....lol.
Hi there thanks a lot for this upload. I have been contacted today by one of their reps asking me if I want to join their A&R programme as I do compile playlists. So it seems it's not bot driven. However, it breaks my heart seeing that their asking 40 USD for a campaign, I studied music business so I know how hard it is to break-even... I will have another look at their email tomorrow and I will dig deeper... not sure how this works, and I like to do my own due diligence when adding tracks to my playlists without being forced to over-produce the output in terms of quantity and quality... cheers xo
Hello Rosa, I received that same email with twice to two different accounts. So, just beware. You may not use bots but in my experience a lot of the larger playlists followings do unfortunately. Yes, you are exactly right, the return is not good that is why you have to look long term like a business, expect to invest in yourself now and hopefully down the road you can start making that money back.There are many outlets to do this once you have developed a loyal fanbase. Anything is possible, just takes time and consistency. Thanks for watching and good luck with the music!
Will not lie, listened to the whole EP... Yes music is subjective, but I do not think objectively speaking, the EP is something that was (or is at this time) desired over by the common consumer. Are there people who will listen to it? Absolutely, though he went down 4x his old monthly listeners, he still has about 450 so obviously people still like it. I just agree with the playlisters as to why it might not take off.
Also to bring up placement points, regardless 11k or 45k followers, that does NOT guarantee your song being played. Most songs are put into a playlist of hundreds of songs to begin with, and remember that they likely built the playlist up overtime. How often do you listen to other peoples playlists instead of your own? I am not saying this as an insult or as a "you are wrong", but you do have to remember that activity among following is fraction.
So, what do you plan on doing? Would you use the website?
@@zmanzbrah Think it comes down to the factors you said. 1. Do you have the money to spend, 2. are you unknown enough where ANY views is good views (e.i. having under 100-200 monthly listeners), and 3. is it produced well enough where there is a target audience for it. Seeing that you were able to mass up thousands of monthly listeners via this EP and your own song you made, I do think it would be worth the money to set on if you are just starting out. Though being where you are at right now (14k ish monthly listeners), obviously someone like you, it won't benefit that much for $50-200 for an extra 1-2k monthly listeners. At your stage, you can probably use your 14k to get free features from people under 10k listeners and grow through their fanbase as well. Though someone like me (only 100 monthly listeners and just started), it is likely worth the money to get on playlists.
As far as the site goes, I am 50/50. I don't think the playlists are entirely fake, just filled with inactive followers who don't use the playlists that much. I did do it though for 30 days for one song with $48 price, and so far a day later, I have gotten 9 placements. I would be happy to share my results with you for the song at the end of 30 days if you wanted another base for an updated follow up video.
@@wethegamers870 coo coo for sure, let me know how it goes! I would love to see. Thanks.
@@zmanzbrah i have 13 current placements and just renewed my weekly playlist club thing. ive liked my results, i will say the reviews feel fake to me but i care more about playlist placements rn since im a nobody. i just released my music last week....so in one week i made 13 playlists.
@@KATZ3y3_GAMEZ that is nice to hear! Maybe they have improved their services, please gives us an update and let us know how that goes. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
Two questions were you seeing live listeners as you were on the Spotify for artist app?
How much of the numbers do you believe were botted/legit?
Hey! Thanks for the question. Around 1 or 2 at a time. You aren't going to get any major boosts with this service but you will get some so if you have nothing then may be its good, And....
Honestly, it is very hard to say like I mentioned in the video there are other playlists that will add you on their playlist hoping you will email them because you see your streams go up out of no where, so you pay(I did this any they all ask for a fee) but they are fake and bot streams. Mostly, you are paying for playlisters that have no clout. I don't know how they do it but you see some of them have 30k likes to their playlist and I got 2 steams in a whole month, wtf, lol.
I recommend checking out my other video with budgets $100 and $25 for facebook ads you get real listeners and real followers. Good luck whatever you decide and ask any other questions you may have! Cheers!
Hey, did you also use their one click ad setup?
Nah, I don't think they had that feature when I did the review. They have rebranded since and added some things to try to reach a new audience.
I asked Spotify if thats ok to use they said no you should go to spotifys own ads to promote which is obviously them trying to make more money but im still scared of them blocking me for that.
What do you mean? Okay with what?
@@zmanzbrah i mean spotify said you should not trust plattforms besides spotifys own ads.
But i dont know if they punish for using this Website. I dont think so but i have no idea.
@@peterk3556 Ahh I see, I think you are right they want your business so of course they will tell you that. But it isn't like it's illegal or anything or you are buying fake streams you are just paying for a service to get your song on a playlist no harm in that.
very helpful
I am happy to help! We all in this game together! Be sure to keep an eye out this Thursday I will be posting my Part 2 of this review then! 6 months of using this service with my electronic dance music. Thanks again!
Are you looking to work with new artists through your label?
Yes, I am always looking for new artist and I listen to all the music that is sent to me. email music to rawdoggyrecords@gmail.com
@@zmanzbrah Okay, I’m sending my Spotify link now.
Great video!! Let me know if you have a sign up code ill use it for when i register soon!
No, I don't this is a promotion video. But I am surprised to like these numbers.
It’s obviously a scam and not worth it.
Exactly! SCAM!