Alhamdulillah im from South Africa and Jamaat work is growing and strong and has helped so many people. The effort has spread to all four corners of the world! SubhanAllah
I love Jamaat Tabligh, iam Indonesian. Society mocking us, they will say "Stove Jamaat", bcz we cooking at Mosque for our food. However, i Love brother Muslim, and i will not give up.
SubhanAllah...TJ helped me so much...they don't debate, they don't shout, they don't criticize,...but they call politely in the day and cry for us in the night...subhanAllah
They say strange stories which goes against Qur'an and Sunnah. Here is example of their deviance: The gaze of a Tableeghi on a pregnant woman could deliver a wali Tabish sahab writes that someone informed him that in the masjid of Maharashtra college (Bombay) once a jama`at came to conduct lessons/dars so this man also sat with this group. The speaker started praising this blessed work of tableegh and what they do until he said " the virtue of this blessed work is such that even if the one who goes out in it's path and lays his eyes upon a pregnant woman then she will give birth to a WALI due to his seeing" [Ref: Kitab mazkuraa page 18]
They don't call politely, if you disagree with them. They will hate you. And an Atheist at work helped me establish a prayer room, his kindness is acknowledged. But his false beliefs are not. Therefore I need to call him to the truth. Study the belief system of Tablighi elders, you will see that they contradict Islam.
Don't you see that dewbond,berelvi (Rizvi),shia Pir-sufi worship idols (imams/pirs/majars etc.) and make divisions just like the Hindus Buddhist, christian divided themselves by worshipping different idols:Buddha,Jesus, ram,krisna, Durga, gonesh etc. as symbol of GOD that's inhuman. And all of them support the blasphemy (I'm God & worship me) of Irani shia sufi monsoor hallaj like Kabbalah Jew who will also follow Dajjal by considering him as their mahdi/mystical sufi!
@realitymedia4370 This is so true.i have tablighi relatives, and they slander major scholars like ibn uthaymeen and ibn baz. They don't make any distinction between sunnah and bid'ah. And if you disagree with them the good character goes flying out of the window. I'd rather be a sinner than to stop sinning and be dragged into their innovations.
In Malaysia, tabligh jamaat has called so many people to the masjid, they help people to connect with Allah SWT, the masjid, many Madrasah has opened all over Malaysia because of their efforts and sacrifice, which has produced many ulama who studied hadith for 8 years and know the importance of doing dakwah in societies.. They never attack others, they focus on the dakwah..
@@asifahmad4748 so are you saying how can an alim be a muqallid as well? Yeah I wonder how! Imam Nawawi being a Shaafii muqallid makes no sense! How did he not know that, right!?! I'm being sarcastic if you didn't get it lol
@Arif Munshi exactly. I lost my dad at 11, didn't really have anyone 2 teach me fard of certain things. I learned how 2 cook whilst being on kidmah, rectified errors in my surahs, learned how to read janaaza prayer (u would be surprised how much ppl don't actually know that). Etiquettes of eating, drinking, sleeping, walking. I didn't even know that tattoos were forbidden b4 I went on jamaat. Most importantly I learned the 6 points 4 the little talk after fajr Salaah. Oh yeah & I've travelled everywhere & met good people who are like family 2 me 2 this day.
Some apparent and observed flaws in the way of the Tableeghi Jamaat, among them: 1. There in too much reliance on story-telling in the Tableeghi Jamaat, whether it is stories of their buzurgs (elders) or strange occurrences that happen during Tableeghi activities (karguzari). 2. Veteran Jamaat members are seen explaining Islamic concepts by means of everyday examples (like trains, buses, etc.), instead of Tafseer and Hadeeth. Carelessness in quoting from the Qur’aan and the Sunnah are widespread, such that speakers bundle up Qur’aan, Hadeeth and stories together, and the listener has no clue as to what is what. At times, we also find, popular sayings being presented as the Hadeeth of Allah’s Messenger ﷺ. 3. Complete new-comers are encouraged to speak in matters of the Deen, and they explain Islamic concepts in light of personal experiences, and often say that which is either false or inappropriate. No objection is raised to such talk, as long as it is centered on the basic idea of going out with the tableeghis for three-days, forty-days, etc. This can be quiet frustrating for someone, who is serious in studying the Deen, and is concerned about the authenticity of what is being said in the name of Allah, the Most High. 4. Though the subjects of Islamic learning are varied, the one who associates with this Jamaat hardly makes any progress in his knowledge because the education there does not go beyond the six-points of tableegh and readings from Fazaail-e-Aamaal. 5. Members of the Tableeghi Jamaat often impose participation on the people without any consideration for their schedule or busyness. They greatly exaggerate the virtues of participation with them and unjustifiably make a person feel guilty for his lack of involvement. 6. Deception was being used to entice people into the ‘three-day routine’;-Veteran tableeghis, who had already registered themselves for the activity, would continually re-register themselves at every mosque to give the impression that a lot of people are participating, and so the one being called should not be left out. 7. Often we found an exaggerated involvement in Tableeghi activities to the extent that individuals were encroaching upon the rights of their family and neglecting the upbringing of their children. Many youngsters were neglecting their education and taking a defeatist attitude towards life. Though these problems are well-known, our Tableeghi brothers simply denied any such problem flaws! - although they themselves were prime examples of these.
I started going to one last month. I agree with your points. The concept is good but it feels like a subscription that u cant sign out of. Alhamdullilah the people accepted me when I said i wont be going on the next one as i started quran class and other things. I want to learn from the original source. I will say however going once is good since it opens ur mind and it feels like a very primal thing, but doing other daily practices consistently is better than just doing the fard and going to the jamaat once a month. @@ExtremeShez
Wrong info, Mohammed Ilyas has never worshiped graves. Shamshi makes a claim with no evidence. Provide the public with accurate proof, do not misguide people. Either retract or support your claim with actual evidence…
He didn't say he worship grave he pointed out very quickly to the things written his book in which mentioned he did practices like sitting in an empty grave to remember death, finishing Quran in that grave so when he will be there after death the Qur'an will be there with him etc strange methods of Dihkr etc which are not proven by kitab and Sunnah والله أعلم بالصواب
a lot of their mosques have graves inside from which these persons seek blessings. I personally know their big markaz mosque in Bangalore India has grave of their elder inside
@@abooayeshaaahmed6941 In India a lot of mosques have graves. Doesn’t mean they worship them. In madinah the prophet (saw) is buried and the sahabah (ra), doesn’t mean people worship the graves. Provide proof tabligh jamat worships graves. Stating something without proof is baseless.
@@haroonbhola2618 u must not take graves as mosque Sahih Muslim 532 I heard from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) five days before his death and he said: I stand acquitted before Allah that I took any one of you as friend, for Allah has taken me as His friend, as he took Ibrahim as His friend. Had I taken any one of my Ummah as a friend, I would have taken Abu Bakr as a friend. Beware of those who preceded you and used to take the graves of their prophets and righteous men as places of worship, but you must not take graves as mosques; I forbid you to do that.
@@grahamgooch7565 You are a liar. Those who asked help to sufi dorbash, stop doing because of tablig. Tablig making us true Muslims. La ilaha illallah, Mohammad ur Rasoolul Allah.
Asslamu Alaikum Brother Shamsi, I'm from 🇮🇳, The tablighi jamaat mission is to told people that whatever happens is just becoz of Allah, They told about the Imaan(Taqwa) of Sahabas and told us to act upon it and be like United brother of Ummah of prophet Muhammad Nabi
What is Jama'at al-Tabligh? “Jama’at al-Tabligh ” is one of the groups that are working for Islam. Their efforts in calling people to Allah (da’wah) cannot be denied. But like many other groups they make some mistakes, and some points should be noted concerning them. Mistakes of Jama'at al-Tabligh These points may be summed up as follows, noting that these mistakes may vary within this group, depending on the environment and society in which they find themselves. In societies in which knowledge and scholars are prevalent and the madhhab of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jama’ah is widespread, the mistakes are much less; in other societies these mistakes may be greater. Some of their mistakes are: 1 - Not adopting the ‘aqidah of Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jama'ah. This is clearly seen from the variations in the ‘aqidah of some of their members and even of some of their leaders. 2 - Their not paying attention to shar’i knowledge. 3 - Their misinterpretation of some Quranic verses in a manner that was not intended by Allah. For example they interpret the verses on jihad as referring to “going out for da’wah”. The verses which mentioned the word khuruj (going out) etc. are interpreted by them as meaning going out for da’wah. 4 - They make their system of going out for da’wah an act of worship. So they started to misquote the Quran to support their system which specifies certain numbers of days and months. This system, which they think is based on evidence from Quran, is widespread among them in all countries and environments. 5 - They do some things that go against shari’ah, such as appointing one of them to make du'a for them whilst the group goes out for da’wah, and they think that their success or failure depends on whether or not this man was sincere and his du'a accepted. 6 - Da’if (weak) and mawdu’ (fabricated) ahadeeth are widespread among them, and this is not befitting for those who aim to call people to Allah. 7 - They do not speak of munkarat (evil things), thinking that enjoining what is good is sufficient. Hence we find that they do not speak about evils that are widespread among the people, even though the slogan of this ummah - which they continually repeat - is: “Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining Al-Ma‘ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do) and forbidding Al-Munkar (polytheism and disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden). And it is they who are the successful” [Aal ‘Imran 3:104 - interpretation of the meaning] The successful are those who enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, not just those who do only one of the two. (...)
@@aspirin2912 The points you mentioned are true ......Some of The Ulama interpreted some verses according to their own understanding but Alhamdullilah Our Ulama Guided us and Informed us what wrong was done
@@aspirin2912 the people connected to the TJ may have some faults but that doesnt mean the principles of TJ are faulty. Its like we muslims may make mistakes while offering salah but that doesnt mean the Salah is wrong or the islam is wrong. According to the principles of TJ only Rawafid and Qadyanis are not allowed in the daawah.But muslims of different schools of thoughts are giving daawah(working) in TJ. I also want to add that one of the principle of TJ is not to discuss ideologies or differences between the school of thoughts.
@@aspirin2912 Without disrespect😇 1. check out the aqaid of Molana Ilyas and the principles of TJ 2. You dont know how many people have joined islamic institutions because of TJ. You are unaware that doesn't mean it hasn't happened or it isnt happening.Many people became huffaaz,ulema, muftis and when they were asked what lead you people to join madaris they said its because of TJ. 3. Its not in the principles.. Some people may have done it that is not the fault of the TJ. 4. Saving someone from hellfire is not a worship? 5. Appointing one to make dua is not against shariah. And who said that they blame the person for the failiure. 😆 Their pet word is "whatever happens is because of allah" and you are accusing them with this. 😆 6.Da'eef hadees are mentioned in almost every hadees books, do we throw them out of the window? 7.wrong again... Check out different lectures/preachings on youtube you will see with your own eyes their topics and contents. And lastly The meaning is from ibn- kaseer "You are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind; you enjoin Al-Ma`ruf (all that Islam has ordained) and forbid Al-Munkar (all that Islam has forbidden), and you believe in Allah"
@@kream2624 they don't follow quran and sunnah ,they simply read fadhaail e amal which contains sufi stories, shirq,bidat, etc...avoid these to become success. Tableeghi is like decorated grave but inside you have empty....
In Indonesia, some people have been helped to go back to masjid by JT. That's a fact. And then many of them found and fall in love with majlis ilmu, learning about sunnah, and then left JT. That's a fact too. Alhamdulillah.
@@anoniem012 it means a place where people learn about Islam from scholars; a way of delivering knowledge face-to-face, usually held at masjid and no, there were never nor will be "Salafi's organization" since (manhaj) salaf means a proper method of being a moslem, to base anything upon Al-Qur'an and As-Sunnah as how Sahabat (radhiyallahu anhum) understood Allahua'lam
Your point really hit me hard ....How can you give Fatwa on Tableegi jamaat as if you have Read All fiqah books ....You are also doing such a Great work ....But what about those muslims who are by name Muslims who will go to them ....Its Tableeghi Jamaat who diverted Millions of muslims To Siraate Mustaqeem....You are blaming them.,....Ah Shamsi Ah!
What is Jama'at al-Tabligh? “Jama’at al-Tabligh ” is one of the groups that are working for Islam. Their efforts in calling people to Allah (da’wah) cannot be denied. But like many other groups they make some mistakes, and some points should be noted concerning them. Mistakes of Jama'at al-Tabligh These points may be summed up as follows, noting that these mistakes may vary within this group, depending on the environment and society in which they find themselves. In societies in which knowledge and scholars are prevalent and the madhhab of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jama’ah is widespread, the mistakes are much less; in other societies these mistakes may be greater. Some of their mistakes are: 1 - Not adopting the ‘aqidah of Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jama'ah. This is clearly seen from the variations in the ‘aqidah of some of their members and even of some of their leaders. 2 - Their not paying attention to shar’i knowledge. 3 - Their misinterpretation of some Quranic verses in a manner that was not intended by Allah. For example they interpret the verses on jihad as referring to “going out for da’wah”. The verses which mentioned the word khuruj (going out) etc. are interpreted by them as meaning going out for da’wah. 4 - They make their system of going out for da’wah an act of worship. So they started to misquote the Quran to support their system which specifies certain numbers of days and months. This system, which they think is based on evidence from Quran, is widespread among them in all countries and environments. 5 - They do some things that go against shari’ah, such as appointing one of them to make du'a for them whilst the group goes out for da’wah, and they think that their success or failure depends on whether or not this man was sincere and his du'a accepted. 6 - Da’if (weak) and mawdu’ (fabricated) ahadeeth are widespread among them, and this is not befitting for those who aim to call people to Allah. 7 - They do not speak of munkarat (evil things), thinking that enjoining what is good is sufficient. Hence we find that they do not speak about evils that are widespread among the people, even though the slogan of this ummah - which they continually repeat - is: “Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining Al-Ma‘ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do) and forbidding Al-Munkar (polytheism and disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden). And it is they who are the successful” [Aal ‘Imran 3:104 - interpretation of the meaning] The successful are those who enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, not just those who do only one of the two.
Since Saudi banned them, so the dawah organizations in UK also need to speak against them. Otherwise they wont get support from Saudi in their own dawah.
Yes absolutely in this poitn iam totally 100 percent disagree but also appreciate his work against shia Christian and jews but he is wrong about tablgi jamat
If some peoples of tabligi jamat left the masjid by listening tawheed doesnt mean that they are not on tawheed i know peoples connected with tabligi jammat and they are doing great work highly disciplined peoples. I know some of the in their books contain zaeef hadith and they need to correct that. On other hand i am also addicted to your work mashallah you are doing great work too i appreciate that but what my view is they are not dealing with non muslim they only focuses on muslim ummah and call them to majid and your most work is based on calling non muslims to islam i think we need both to grow why dont we stop pointing fingers on each other just hold hands of each other side by side do your job in which you are professional and work as a institution so that no one can break our bond❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Ya Allah guide us to the right path
Im a mexican revert and i dont exactly understand what is wrong about tablig, i met one and nothing seems to be wrong, how is visiting a masjid and pray wrong, also helps you meet other muslims and in a non muslim country to make other brothers feel part of this. Allahu alam
There main criticism against tabligh jamaat is as follows: - They don't focus on learning islamic knowledge. - Some verses and hadith are interpreted in an incorrect manner. For instance the famous hadith "departing and returning in Allah's path is better than the world and what it contains" TJ interpret "Allah's path" as "khorooj" whereas it is unanimously known among scholars to mean for military conquest. - They focus on da3wa for Muslims but leave non-Muslims. They argue that we must first guide back all non-practising Muslims to Islam, then only we can do da3wa to non-Muslims. Which is incorrect. - The average tabligh person has very little knowledge and can often say things which are incorrect. If you spend some time with them, you will notice that they often repeat the same 15-20 hadiths. Having spent much time with them I must admit that their efforts are good and their manners and discipline are impeccable. Nevertheless there are some areas for improvement.
Tablig is the best things happen for Muslims ummah in this last time. Keep working with Tablig. Because of Tablig efforts, many people who left Islam are coming back to Islam. Tablig make us a strong believer and followers of Prophet Mohammad(sa).
@@safiul1930incorrect. Some apparent and observed flaws in the way of the Tableeghi Jamaat, among them: 1. There in too much reliance on story-telling in the Tableeghi Jamaat, whether it is stories of their buzurgs (elders) or strange occurrences that happen during Tableeghi activities (karguzari). 2. Veteran Jamaat members are seen explaining Islamic concepts by means of everyday examples (like trains, buses, etc.), instead of Tafseer and Hadeeth. Carelessness in quoting from the Qur’aan and the Sunnah are widespread, such that speakers bundle up Qur’aan, Hadeeth and stories together, and the listener has no clue as to what is what. At times, we also find, popular sayings being presented as the Hadeeth of Allah’s Messenger ﷺ. 3. Complete new-comers are encouraged to speak in matters of the Deen, and they explain Islamic concepts in light of personal experiences, and often say that which is either false or inappropriate. No objection is raised to such talk, as long as it is centered on the basic idea of going out with the tableeghis for three-days, forty-days, etc. This can be quiet frustrating for someone, who is serious in studying the Deen, and is concerned about the authenticity of what is being said in the name of Allah, the Most High. 4. Though the subjects of Islamic learning are varied, the one who associates with this Jamaat hardly makes any progress in his knowledge because the education there does not go beyond the six-points of tableegh and readings from Fazaail-e-Aamaal. 5. Members of the Tableeghi Jamaat often impose participation on the people without any consideration for their schedule or busyness. They greatly exaggerate the virtues of participation with them and unjustifiably make a person feel guilty for his lack of involvement. 6. Deception was being used to entice people into the ‘three-day routine’;-Veteran tableeghis, who had already registered themselves for the activity, would continually re-register themselves at every mosque to give the impression that a lot of people are participating, and so the one being called should not be left out. 7. Often we found an exaggerated involvement in Tableeghi activities to the extent that individuals were encroaching upon the rights of their family and neglecting the upbringing of their children. Many youngsters were neglecting their education and taking a defeatist attitude towards life. Though these problems are well-known, our Tableeghi brothers simply denied any such problem flaws! - although they themselves were prime examples of these.
@@usman3ooo TJ has mainly had a strong impact on Muslim from diaspora communities living the West. But the main criticism I have towards them is the lack of da3'wah to non-Muslims. Many Muslims in the West already know Islam, they just choose not to follow it. Whereas there are many non-Muslims who are genuinely curious about Islam but Tabligh Jamaat don't care about them.
Tabligh is not limited to certain people or it is not a jamat but it is a responsibility given to us by Allah and his prophet (SAW). Even shamsi has the responsibility to do tableegh. Raiwand tableegh is just so good they never ask something from somebody except turn to Allah. They ask everything from Allah.
My grandpa was a hardline TJ, i never see him doing sufi stuff, pray in graveyard, none of that. He always went to Mosque and give da'wah thats all. No sufi, no dancing, no nothing
Jamaat has has some wrongs but they also have alot of goodness. Going to and Reminding the Muslims about Allah and Akhira and calling them to saleh. May Allah correct they wrongs and preserve them
I respect Shamsi but he is wrong when it comes to this. In countries such as India and Pakistan there are countless muslims going astray following sects such as the barelwis who pray to graves and so forth. Tablighi Jama'at has stopped a lot of this and are guiding people back to islam. They follow Quran and Sunnah, you just have differences in terms of its interpretation.
@@grahamgooch7565 I had two of them from back in the day when I was a part of them, I couldn't believe my eyes when I later understood the mistakes and had to burn them.
Too easy calling other groups misguided, as of they are infallible. From his own claim, whilst the Jamaat calls muslim who lacking in prayers to pray to the mosque, they wanted debates; The Jamaat seems has better characters & manners to leave and do dakwah then to debates unnecessarily with him. Whilst they're (JT) not perfect, they do good job to turn people towards the Quran & Sunnah.
@Sabir i studied with them for 3 years I've never saw any misguidance... I couldn't find Shirk in the Fadhail Amaal...you can bring the founders but our belief is not base on what they brought... So it's sad that we saw people criticizing the tablighi... But when we call them to have a discussion they fled like wild pig are being hunted...
Do you know why it's taught that To reach the highest level of spirituality you need to repeat that 'I'm God and prostrate to me' like irani shia Sufi mansoor hallaj? Because anti-christ dajjal will say that "I'am god & prostrate to me! True Muslims will reject anti-christ for blaspheming (death penalty by TRUE GOD's laws) Because Our beloved Prophet (ﷺ) never said that “I am GOD or prostrate to me!
@@mohamednawaz3538 Don't you see that dewbondi, berelvi (Rizvi),shia Pir-sufi worship idols (imams/pirs/majars etc.) and make divisions just like the Hindus Buddhist, christian divided themselves by worshipping different idols:Buddha,Jesus, ram,krisna, Durga, gonesh etc. as symbol of GOD that's inhuman. And all of them support the blasphemy (I'm God & worship me) of Irani shia sufi monsoor hallaj like Kabbalah Jew who will also follow Dajjal by considering him as their mahdi/mystical sufi! They are destroying the unity of Mankind. For their heinous acts they all are going to be deceived by the antichrist (dajjal).
@@Truth_come_to_perish_falsehood This reply of yours make me laugh. Anyway I'm not a Deobandi nor the other you mentioned, some of them i would agree are sectarian, but i see that the pseudo salafi has not yet united the ummah but dividing it more rather than the Deobandi.
Shamsi is wrong on this, there is ikhtilaf among scholars on if Tableegh Al Jamat are ok or not. Saying Tableegh al Jamat is linked to Sufism is like saying salafia is because we study 40 hadeeth by Nawawi. Tableeghi people don’t tell you to worship a grave or make shirk, they just remind you to go to your local masjid whenever you can. In this day and age that is a good thing! He also said our Mezan is not how many people become Muslims. Not sure who preceded him in this statement because it’s bizarre. Our duty is to bring as many people to Islam as possible.
@Google: “who is the best person in the world” How does anyone know who is following the complete truth. Everyone works in their own capacity. He mentioned in the segment before this that Saudi accepting help from the America gov was the correct thing to do in the gulf war, yet he always calls the USA United Snakes of America the big shaytan. So are we to believe that he thinks it was better for Saudi to work with the United Snakes of America the big shaytan against Sadam and going against Al albanis fatwa. Allying with a shayateen against a neighbouring Muslim country under a Baathist secular government. Not even the Saudis ever regarded the USA as snakes. There are many ways to discredit if someone seems to be on a congruent truth or not, these are minutia points. The main thing is Islam will be raised by the words of Muslims who are true believers and calling to Islam is from the path of the prophets, nothing more nothing less.
Brother going for khurooj 3 days,40 days,4 months where they get this from.... everyone is questioning about khurooj that they go...not when they call astray muslims to come back to masjids! khurooj in Tablighi jamaat manner is definitely bida'h there is no doubt about that!
@@usmanans5364 it is only a bid’ah if it is a newly formed worship to Allah. Example, every year salafis have a 2 day dawrah each year that coincides with Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Anyone can turn around and say why is this date stipulated each year when the quaran and sunnah does not stipulate to have a dawrah this time of the year EVERY single year. In regards to the book Fazail-e-Amaal there may be many mistakes in there, but we can find mistakes in many books. However the scholars should refute it.
@@strictlyyoutube6881 brother i m not a salafi and i don't know about there anything....this is not the argument for justify bida'h of Tablighi jamaat to points out another group of people and say that they r also doing bida'h...and the problem with fazail e amaal that the Tablighi jamaat people don't let any other books preach or use for taleem.thats also wrong they only stick to fazail e amal only it's like a...fazail e amal is central book for there people!
How is this Qur'an and Sunnah? An example of a concerning issue that have been found in Tablighi Nisāb / Fazaail-e-Aamaal. From Fazaail-e-Aamaal (Virtues of Charity): A virtuous man once *sat down near the grave of a generous person and related that he needed some Deenaars (money) to help a beggar. In the night, he saw the man of the grave in his dream*, who directed the virtuous man to go to his house where in a corner lay buried five hundred Deenaars, which he should give it to the beggar. Next morning, the man visited the house of the man in the grave, spoke to the family members and thus, the Deenaars were found. The man told the family members to keep the wealth for they were legal successors of the wealth. But they refused saying that it was shameful for them that *their ancestor could be generous even after his death and they could not be during their life.* The Deenars were thus, given to the beggar but the beggar only took half a Deenar. *Reference:* Fazaail-e-Aamaal, (Eng. Trans.), Virtues of Charity, Chapter.7, story no.24, p.195-196 (New Edition 1982, Published by Dini Book Depot -Delhi). There is no clarification, before or after this story that such-and such belief is not true, and that this story is only meant to encourage charity. Instead, what is found is the *following , comment by Moulana Zakariyyah* “The thing to be _noted and considered in the above story is as to who was most generous The deceased or his family or the beggar?_ _In our view, the beggar was most generous as in spite of his needs, he did not take more than half of a Deenar.” [end quote]_ Can a just person, after reading this comment, honestly say that a commoner to whom such stories are read, will only take encouragement for righteous actions from it, and not form a misguided opinion about the ability of the dead righteous to perform righteous acts and benefit the living? *Rather, this story helps formulate the belief, and Moulana Zakariyyah’s comment re-enforce it!* *The idea that benefits may be received from the grave is the basic premise for grave worship.* And we have seen already the dangers of attachment to graves, and the severe warning by Allah's Messenger (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wassallam) against taking graves as places of worship. As for the intent of Moulana Zakariyyah, none can argue, after reading his comment, that such stories are not meant to teach a particular Aqeedah, especially since he himself approves, *“The same benefit which was received from the Faqir's physical life will be acquired from his grave.”* _Mashaikh-e-Chist (Eng. Trans.) p.211_
1. The way Tabligh movement perform their work is very penetrating in the society, so they meet every Muslims in every field, brothels, clubs or pubs. So many of Muslims becoming practical after joining Tablighi Jamat. 2. Since Tablighi movement is like a first step, if they start talking about masayal and adeedah in public then many would not join them, however this doesn't mean they should not discuss those aspects. They usually refer such things people like sheikh. Taken from the comment of @Alfixmath
Shamsi I watch your videos and find you very knowledgeable, but in this topic you are wrong and need to do more research before making such a bold claim!
What's wrong with you shamsi? My house members are tablighi members..and its anti sufi..and pure monotheistic. You're out of mind or paid by MBS ?? U hv shocked me today.
They don't go to graves and do such things.. that's certain extreme messed up Sufis that have given a stain the true tazkiya. Everyone might not agreed with them but for sure their works and efforts are amazing and they focus on transformation physically and spiritually.
Assalamualaikum with all due respect i would suggest brother shamsi to spend some time with tableeghi jamaat and go to their marakiz and hear their speeches all of those are based only on imaan and namaaz none other than that. They dont claim to six usool to be full deen but almost covers the major part of deen. They teach the sunnah as well. Please study them in detail personally. Read their muntakhab a haadees compilation about the virtues.
*Baatil Karamaat no. 1 of Deobandis Tablighis - The gaze of a Tableeghi on a pregnant woman could deliver a wali (instead of controlling his gaze)* Tabish sahab writes that someone informed him that in the masjid of Maharashtra college (Bombay) once a jama`at came to conduct lessons/dars so this man also sat with this group. The speaker started praising this blessed work of tableegh and what they do until he said " the virtue of this blessed work is such that even if the one who goes out in it's path and lays his eyes upon a pregnant woman then she will give birth to a WALI due to his seeing" *(instead of controlling his gaze)* [Ref: Kitab mazkuraa page 18]
How can you test people that go out in jamat when most of them are kids off the street who have been brought into the mosque to learn about the basics of Islam.
Where did you got that from, that Muhammad Ilyas use to sit on grave. I have a great respect for Shamsi but you are way off on this, I think you should really repent for wrongfully accusing someone.
The most learned scholars of Islam including major salafi scholars never condemned jamaat, they point out their wrongs and praise their work of calling the Muslims back to deen. This shamsi guy is an extremist hizbi. He failed to see the diverse and the goodness of the ummah. I myself follow the madahab of the Salaf, but I have no issue with jamaat or anyone calling people to Allah.
Shamsi is one of the most humble and respectful Brothers I have ever met. He is not perfect like all of us but he is trying to follow Quran and Sunnah and call people back to Tawheed. It is funny how you call him "Extremist" when He was one of the first people to confront and expose the Kharijites supporting ISIS/Anjem Choudury in Speakers Corner when everyone else was too scared too.
i never hear jamaah tabligh do encourage grave worship any taklim they do,but only told us to be masjid lover that it, also story about do not waste time and always reminder to remember Allah the almighty creator, for me better be good assumption for all muslim..Akidah laiilla ha illallah,Muhammad dur rasul Allah, of course as mankind we not perfect..
You are super wrong. To think this way is also against the sinnah and the salaf... They don't teach "follow this ulema or that one only and the rest are all bad or evil." you think that way... You are wrong shamsi may Allah guide you and all of us to the right and balanced deen إن شاء الله
@It's a Journey agreed, still I would reserve judgement before knowing all the facts as it should be with everything in life, may Allah make it easier for all of us ameen
@@Reminders102 i rarely watch him because most of the time he is clueless, very backward and has a narrow and superficial understanding of issues and the scholars he follows are more shallower. Come to the right path and please stop followíng Wahabis, the Wahabis are going down!
The Comments here Ma shaa Allah are enough for people to realize the bizarre and completely false statements made by Bro Shamsi. comparing people that start every statement with, " Allah ki zaat say hota hai sab and Allah k baghair kuch nahi hota". i e Everything happens by Allah's permission and nothing can happen without His Permission. Amazing how ignorant Bro Shamsi is on this matter.
Sh. Abu Yazeed Qurtubi said that, “I had heard that whoever recites La ilaha illalla 70,000 times he will be freed from the hellfire. Having heard this I completed one “nasab” (meaning 70,000 times La ilaha illalla) for myself and also finished many other “nasabs” as stock for the hereafter. Near to us there used to live a young man about whom it was famous that he is from the people of Kashf and also the matters of Hellfire and Paradise are revealed to him. One time he happened to eat with us when he uttered a scream and began to breath heavily and said that his mother is burning in hell. (Kandalvi writes): Qurtubi said that as I was watching his bewilderment that a thought came to my mind that I should transfer one of my nasab (70,000 times La ilaha illalla) to his mother so that it will also confirm the honesty of the young man. So I transferred my one nasab to his mother. Nobody knew that I had recited this nasab or transferred it to his mother but Allah but the young man said, “Uncle, my mother has been relieved from the fires of hell.” (Kandalvi continues):Qurtubi says that from this incident I benefitted twice. One was the baraka of the 70,000 times recitation and the other was the honesty of the young man.” (Kandalvi further says): This is just one incident. This is in fadha'il a'maal - what do you have to say about this story?
@@cjamo65able A complete strawman. Read my comment again and then tell me what your bizarre claim has to do with tablighis being compared to sufis. There are fabricated Ahadith in Fadhail e Amal(Urdu) and they are mentioned with references. In the English translations these have been been taken out. The Ulemas have made the texts for the Tablighi laymen more clear. The issue is calling people who bring Muslims(by name) to the masjid and asking them to follow the Sunnah, deviants and thats complete 🐂 💩 on shamis part. Just like he was wrong and ignorant on the matter of khurooj he's done it again here. It's nothing new.
@@mrumbobo5683 my 'bizarre claim' was meant to demonstrate the kind of sufi-like mumbo jumbo that is in the books of the Jamaat. If you think it's fabricated, I'll get the reference for you. As page numbers change between editions, just let me know what edition you read & I'll get it for you.
@@cjamo65able ps your story even though mentioned in Fadhail E Amal have been delt with by Ulema a long time ago Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim ! (Fatwa: 176/131/B=2/1439) This number is not proved from the Quran and Hadith. It is the experience of elders. Someone tells to read it seventy thousand times and someone tells to read it one lakh twenty five thousand times. The most excellent dhikr is the Holy Quran, it should be recited and then isal-e-sawab and dua for forgiveness should be made for the dead. At least recite Surah Ikhlas 11 times and do isal-o-sawab. Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best Darul Ifta, Darul Uloom Deoband, India You can go check the reference yourself.
@@cjamo65able your story has nothing to do with the Aqaid of the Jamat. Reading surah Ikhlas 70000 being an experience of an elder someone respect and then having whatever vision they claim to have is a "personal opinion" they have. Some people might agree with them and others might not. It should and other incidents likewise should not be conflated with the Quran and Ahadith and its better to follow the Authentic tradition of Ahadith, this everyone in the Jamat knows and follows. The Tablighi people being driven out of masjids of Barelvis and other villages where they openly tell people not to worship the graves in Pakistan is proof enough of Brother Shamis ignorance of the matter.
U r so wrong here nd u know nothing about jamaat, they called themselves Ahle sunnah Wal jamaah. I never go with them Bt I know and the reality is maulana ilyaas not come from sufi background my advice is to correct ur self first bcoz it's make u false. Learn first then speak
He said tablighis aren't on tawhid and Quran and sunnah, audhubillah, that's a clear takfir, he's insinuating we aren't Muslim. This is what his takfiri khawarij forefather abdul wahab did, made clear takfir on millions of Muslims
Bro the solution to this Khawarij supporting MADkhlis is just tell them Bro Hajji is coming and stand back and watch how he and his cult members run on their tails
Why r u so triggered. By stating an ideology to be upon kufr does not mean u beleive all the followers r kuffar as some are unaware. Again getting way too emotional instead of taking heed and looking into a matter.
@@hl8302 You make takfir without it seeming to be a takfir, tell me what it is if it isn't a takfir because as far as I know a kaafir is one who doesn't call to tawhid or warn of shirk, and he's saying that about us
Adakah jamaah tabligh mengajak orang minum arak, berjudi, berzina, membunuh, merompak, menipu? Setahu saya mereka mengajak orang kembali menjadi hamba yang taat kepada Allah... Tauhid mereka murni, mereka mengajar bahawa tiada sesuatu yang boleh memberi manfaat selain Allah, seperti contoh, makanan bukanlah yang mengenyangkan perut, tetapi Allah lah yang memberi kekenyangan, air bukanlah yang menghilangkan haus, tapi Allah lah yang menghilangkan rasa haus, bukan ubat yang menyembuhkan penyakit, tapi Allah lah yang menyembuhkan penyakit, bukan peluru yang menyebabkan kematian, tapi Allah lah yang mematikan.... dengan ini mereka mengajar untuk tidak bergantung kepada makhluk tapi hanya bergantung pada Allah Pencipta... Apakah kamu rasa ajaran mereka ini menyesatkan?
Well said He needs 2 spend time in rywand . Go out 2 all the poor deprived villages in middle East and c how this imaan m.i mehnat has helped show the right path 2 millions
Absolutely fake news Maulana Ilyas was a direct descendant of Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddiqui Radhialla anhu. They don't believe in graveyard worship, as they believe it to be Shirk. Back in the 1920's at a time that was very unfortunate when the Muslim ummah was losing the Khilafat in Turkey. Only in India the revolution voice was very strong and louder. And amongst those voices came out the effort of Dawat and Tabligh. Maulana Ilyas rahmatullah Alaihi had a great concern for the whole Muslim ummah. He gathered the pious scholars in India and they had no solution. He then went to Makkah and Medinah and cried in front Allah. He collected scholars while at Makkah and Medinah in regards to what was happening to the Ummah of Hazrat Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wasallam. It was only then that almighty Allah guided Maulana Ilyas rahmatullah Alaihi to carry out this noble effort of Dawat and Tabligh. At the time nobody wanted to listen him as he went through a lot hardship to carry out this effort. But Allah's promise has always been with the truthful. 100 years later this effort is not just in the big major cities, but is flourishing across the globe in many villages where your media electricity has still not reached yet. From sunrise to sunset, Alhumdu you will find effort in every part of the world, where people are leaving their houses, families and businesses, spending in the path of Allah, trying to rectify their imaan and the same time reviving Islam across globe. Therefore brother, we humbly and politely request you, to do your research properly before making any false accusations.
Brother Shamsi Tablighi Jamaat is Not Sufi as you said they are nice and humble people They are Ahlle sunnah May Allah Guide Us All brother shamsi to spend some time with tableeghi jamaat and go to their marakiz and hear their speeches all of those are based only on imaan and namaaz They dont claim to six usool to be full deen but almost covers the major part of deen.
First, Learn what is Tawheed and its importance in Islam. Islam is not based upon shirkiyya stories. Islam is based upon Qur'an and Sunnah and understanding of Salaf.
In India many people left Islam in 1947, while villages came back to Islam after the efforts of tableegh. You may disagree with some of their opinions and their shuyukh. But their work of keeping Indian Muslims as Muslims and bringing thousands of Indian Muslims as Muslims through them. Yes they have sufis but not extreme like those who pray to graves.
This point I disagree you samshi... I love you much but this time you no have brake regarding tabligi .. regardless there having some good things and bad things you point out there limitations.. I think you embarrass us .. most of the jamat group is doing the work for the sake Allah and prophet s.a.w.... you just finished it in 5 mins .. may Allah protects us
Tabligh and all other reminders of Almighty ALLAAH and Mohammad s.a.w. is for yourself reformation and a benefit to oneself. Alhamdullilah tabligh has improved many people and brought them on to salah ect. There are a few extreme fanatics who do not understand that you first change your own actions before you can change someone else, and first of all, know that you are the worst sinner to another. We are all at the mercy of Almighty ALLAAH rabbul izzit.
What is Jama'at al-Tabligh? “Jama’at al-Tabligh ” is one of the groups that are working for Islam. Their efforts in calling people to Allah (da’wah) cannot be denied. But like many other groups they make some mistakes, and some points should be noted concerning them. Mistakes of Jama'at al-Tabligh These points may be summed up as follows, noting that these mistakes may vary within this group, depending on the environment and society in which they find themselves. In societies in which knowledge and scholars are prevalent and the madhhab of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jama’ah is widespread, the mistakes are much less; in other societies these mistakes may be greater. Some of their mistakes are: 1 - Not adopting the ‘aqidah of Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jama'ah. This is clearly seen from the variations in the ‘aqidah of some of their members and even of some of their leaders. 2 - Their not paying attention to shar’i knowledge. 3 - Their misinterpretation of some Quranic verses in a manner that was not intended by Allah. For example they interpret the verses on jihad as referring to “going out for da’wah”. The verses which mentioned the word khuruj (going out) etc. are interpreted by them as meaning going out for da’wah. 4 - They make their system of going out for da’wah an act of worship. So they started to misquote the Quran to support their system which specifies certain numbers of days and months. This system, which they think is based on evidence from Quran, is widespread among them in all countries and environments. 5 - They do some things that go against shari’ah, such as appointing one of them to make du'a for them whilst the group goes out for da’wah, and they think that their success or failure depends on whether or not this man was sincere and his du'a accepted. 6 - Da’if (weak) and mawdu’ (fabricated) ahadeeth are widespread among them, and this is not befitting for those who aim to call people to Allah. 7 - They do not speak of munkarat (evil things), thinking that enjoining what is good is sufficient. Hence we find that they do not speak about evils that are widespread among the people, even though the slogan of this ummah - which they continually repeat - is: “Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining Al-Ma‘ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do) and forbidding Al-Munkar (polytheism and disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden). And it is they who are the successful” [Aal ‘Imran 3:104 - interpretation of the meaning] The successful are those who enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, not just those who do only one of the two. (...)
Yes in those lands where Indians live their elders will be Indians, whereas if you go to France then the elders there is sheikh Younis from Tunis, if you go to other Arab countries like Jordan, Saudi Arabia etc then the elders will be from those backgrounds. Yes if you meant to say the early elders of tabligh were Indians then ofcourse this movement started from Pak-Hind subcontinent so only natural that their elders will be from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh! Just like Jamaate Islami founded by Sayyid Mawdudi in the subcontinent and why are all the leaders Pakistani or Indian or bangali!!??? Well yeah you got my answer
@@mrlesta Either you're not Muslim or you're being stupid. Tabligh are not at all racist. They are Muslim and if you are Muslim then they are your brother's so treat them like it.
Shamsi why are you saying these things about tabligh jamaat remember you will have to answer to Allah SWT. Sometimes I feel you are deluded! May Allah guide you Aameen
In Fiji, the asuul of the tableegi jamaat is to make the Muslims practicing Muslims. They will only give dawah to the non Muslims only when all the Muslims are practicing Muslims. In this situation a non believer can claim on the day of judgement that a group of people went past his house to a Muslim but never came to his house to talk about Allah. Now, if they integrate real dawah with what they are doing maybe they will have a better understanding of the other religions point of view.
Its funny that you dont know anything you talk about. Your talking about it as if uve been in kurooj and experienced it.For you to say its suffism is pure ignorance.If you go or think of something to be wrong your going to listen with ignorance and going to try to prove to yourself that it is wrong. It seems like your teachers have never taught you of humility and humbleness. If you had humility you would never proudly say you are the only one following the sunnah. Or else you would be claiming everyone besides you is misguided and that is not the way of the salaf.
Assalamualaikum, Alhamdulillah ALLAH has given Brother Shamsi lots of knowledge and may ALLAH use him for dawah In Sha Allah, however the statements he is making about Tabligh Jamaat are unfounded and biased,We invite you to spend a few days with us and see what we do and then you will have the complete knowledge of Tabligh Jamaat and In Sha Allah you will retract your comments, wassalaam
@@khalidpadia9561 brother khurooj in Tablighi jamaat manner is definitely a innovation and stared just 100 years back... everyone have a problem with khurooj cause u didn't find in the time of prophet saw or next 3 generations going in those kind of khuroojs(3 days,40 days,4 months).
@@usmanans5364 my brother, speaking to you like this,is it an innovation or not,no one says 3 days,or 4 months is a Sunnah or fardh,it is an adopted system that seves as a guideline to a united effort, I've seen myself Alhamdulillah how convicts,drug addicts and people have changed their lives just by going out for 3 days,this going out is more self reformation, please try it out and I promise your level of Iman will improve In Sha Allah
So many Butt hurt innovators bashing on Shamsi for pointing flaws into their forefathers belief.... The guy was a sufi and he's explaining you what's the Jamaat creed. Numbers is not criteria for true islam
I may be wrong but it seems that anyone who doesn't agree with Shams, his group, or the scholars he follows is misguided and he is not alone in that line if thinking.. When I was a new muslim I was confused because before I took my Shahadah the disunity, politics, sects, tribalism, ect was not explained to me, I had to find out myself. Allah swt has his own hykma. No one man knows everything, differences will be there, and disagreements. I love brother Shamsi for the sake of Allah swt and if he feels a group is misguided it is his right to express it. But, his arrogance, laughter, conduct when addressing other groups is not the sunnah of our Nabi. You don't teach people about giving dawah correctly and following sunnah, when you are not following it yourself. Good character and manners matter when addressing serious issues and giving dawah. I don't agree with the way alot of ""Dawah"" is giving at the park, wisdom is needed.
From Tablighi Jamaat books. An example of a concerning issue that have been found in Tablighi Nisāb / Fazaail-e-Aamaal. From Fazaail-e-Aamaal (Virtues of Charity): A virtuous man once *sat down near the grave of a generous person and related that he needed some Deenaars (money) to help a beggar. In the night, he saw the man of the grave in his dream*, who directed the virtuous man to go to his house where in a corner lay buried five hundred Deenaars, which he should give it to the beggar. Next morning, the man visited the house of the man in the grave, spoke to the family members and thus, the Deenaars were found. The man told the family members to keep the wealth for they were legal successors of the wealth. But they refused saying that it was shameful for them that *their ancestor could be generous even after his death and they could not be during their life.* The Deenars were thus, given to the beggar but the beggar only took half a Deenar. *Reference:* Fazaail-e-Aamaal, (Eng. Trans.), Virtues of Charity, Chapter.7, story no.24, p.195-196 (New Edition 1982, Published by Dini Book Depot -Delhi). There is no clarification, before or after this story that such-and such belief is not true, and that this story is only meant to encourage charity. Instead, what is found is the *following , comment by Moulana Zakariyyah* “The thing to be _noted and considered in the above story is as to who was most generous The deceased or his family or the beggar?_ _In our view, the beggar was most generous as in spite of his needs, he did not take more than half of a Deenar.” [end quote]_ Can a just person, after reading this comment, honestly say that a commoner to whom such stories are read, will only take encouragement for righteous actions from it, and not form a misguided opinion about the ability of the dead righteous to perform righteous acts and benefit the living? *Rather, this story helps formulate the belief, and Moulana Zakariyyah’s comment re-enforce it!* *The idea that benefits may be received from the grave is the basic premise for grave worship.* And we have seen already the dangers of attachment to graves, and the severe warning by Allah's Messenger (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wassallam) against taking graves as places of worship. As for the intent of Moulana Zakariyyah, none can argue, after reading his comment, that such stories are not meant to teach a particular Aqeedah, especially since he himself approves, *“The same benefit which was received from the Faqir's physical life will be acquired from his grave.”* _Mashaikh-e-Chist (Eng. Trans.) p.211_
Regardless of how he knows tabligh jamaat are misguided innovators. They are banned in Saudi Arabia. Innovations are worse than all major sins except shirk.
You just know how to cling on semantics. If he said they came to his Masjid then that means they identified themselves as the Tablighi Jamaat, that's how he knew it was them. But, disingenuous people wouldn't even understand something so clear would do anything to defend their frail mentality.
"You and me is Shirk upon Shirk” In the English translation of ‘Irshaadul Mulook[1], Zakariya Kandhalwi mentioned in his introduction, a letter of Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi to his Shaykh Imdadullah Al-Makki: "O my refuge of both worlds! You have requested information about the halat (condition) of this useless one... I have developed a natural dislike for sin and a natural inclination for obedience. This effect is due solely to that relatiotiship (nisbat) which has reached me from the spiritual effulgence of Hadhrat. To say more will be disrespectful. May Allah forgive that I be a liar, for I have written on the instruction of Hadhrat. In reality I am nothing. It is only Your Shadow - only Your existence (i.e. Allah’s existence). What am I? I am nothing. Only He is. You and me are Shirk upon Shirk." [End quote] So affirming two existences is Shirk for these people, and creation is only the ‘shadow’ of Allah... Astaghfirullah!! Also, Gangohi called Imdadullah “refuge of both worlds,” when only Allah can provide refuge to a person in both worlds, yet these people seek refuge in the creation instead of the Rabb of all that exists. And here Gangohi clearly stated he is a liar, in reference to their hiding their creed of Wahdahtul Wujood in order to preserve themselves from attack! [1] Page 20, published by Majlisul Ulama of South Africa. This letter is also quoted by Zakariya Kandhalwi in his “Fazail Sadaqat, part 2, chapter 6: Ahadith- The excellence of Tawakkul, after Hadith 10
Shamsi is completely wrong on tablighi jamat, it is tablighi jamat that brought me to hidaya. He does not have a clue about them, if he wants to know what they do and represent and if they follow the true teachings of Islam or not he should go and check rather than see and hear things from the outside then make judgements to people especially youngsters.
This guy shake my head. ..... Tabligh effort showed me the way...... low key no flex they effort goes on and goes forward.... no riya all for allah Not sufism lool The 6 points maybe learn them sam your wrong wrong wrong wrong...............spend time and learn brother rather then judge lets unit and compliment each other sufis salafi wahabi deobani tabligh we are all one ummah...... wake up
This guy out here arguing and putting down other religions and thinks he's giving dawah. May Allah guide him. Jamat tabligh is the real dawah not this street dawah. He talks about not counting how many people he converted, yet it is he who is hosting a TH-cam channel and gaining views while critising jamah tabligh. I don't see jamah tabligh making TH-cam channels and camping in speakers corner to debate with people. Jamah tabligh proves everything with action. They are the embodiment of the sunnah and the implement it in thier lives. They spend from their own wealth and money to go in the path of allah. They don't rely on donations like all these half wits do.
@@noormiah2225 Because you don't know the history of Maulana Ilyas and his followers. They follow the Tariqqah of the Sufi orders and declare their Khalifa or Ameer from the descendants of Maulana Ilyas based on the Sufi silsila. If you don't know, you don't know. Even I didn't knew until I was told and learned about it. I have been a part of Tablighi movement and learned this slowly and gradually. Tablighis don't actually come outright about this, for obvious reasons since they don't want themselves to be associated with the Bidah of many Sufis in the Indian subcontinent. And believe me my brother as I am Indian and live in close proximity with Mewat, the place where this movement first took off during the lifetime of Maulana Ilyas.
I never heard them say u should only follow 6 usool or ur not muslim ! Or saying if u dont go in jamaat then u r not muslim ! Or u should worship grave !! Lot of misconceptions of tableegh jamat !! They say or do to bring muslim in mahol/ surroundings where is easy to learn basics of deen !! U will not know importance of tableeg jamat becoz. Go and see in india, Pakistan y ilyaz shahab came up with this method the person who is in need will understand!
alhumdulliah.more then crores peopls good practicing muslim because of tabligi jamaat ....shamshi bro may allah guide uu ...nd protect u to satan trapp.....
1:22 - to Shamsi Al-Ahzab 33:58 وَٱلَّذِينَ يُؤْذُونَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَٱلْمُؤْمِنَٰتِ بِغَيْرِ مَا ٱكْتَسَبُوا۟ فَقَدِ ٱحْتَمَلُوا۟ بُهْتَٰنًا وَإِثْمًا مُّبِينًا And those who harm believing men and believing women for other than what they have earned have certainly borne upon themselves a slander and manifest sin.
Comments blown the screaming sounds of the speaker may ALLAH guide him to correct path Saying Quran and Sunnah is the path and free from it from head to toe ..
Brother. tawheed is the main criteria in tabligh calling people to Allah by following in the footstep of prophet Muhammad s.a.w..... At the end of the day no1 is more knowledgeable then our prophet Muhammad s.a.w... So before we start giving refutation against someone let do some research I think bro shamsi needs to do that... May Allah protect us from dividing this ummah ameen
all that glitters is not gold, so is SHAMSI these days! now what I see about SHMASI, whenever he is asked about any Muslim group doing DAWAH, he labels them as BAATEL!! don't get involved in that group, this group! so, is he the only spoke person of TRUE ISLAM!!?! KSA has brought FALSE allegation on Tableeghi Jamah regarding worshipping grave which in reality is completely opposite! SAUDI gvt is introducing western culture, enabling free mixing, where is SHAMSI's word against that!?
Where is your proof Maulana Ilyas used to grave worship. Not a single tabligi scholar says or promotes. Allah will hold you accountable for spreading lies shamsi boy. Be warned
Brother shamsi here I'll contradict with your little knowledge regarding Tableegi Jamaat....Its an authentic Jamaat To whom Authenticity is given By Authentic Ulama of India ...Pakistan .... Bangladesh....Indonesia.... Malaysia etc....If you contradict with Tableegi jamaat you are contradicting With IJMA E UMMAT...then you are contradicting All the Ulamas....Do visit Pakistan and Meet world Renowed Ulama there like MUFTI Taqi Usmani etc have discussion with them i guarantee you will find yourself on wrong way regarding tableeghi Jamaat....
I am a Believer xviioixxii Perhaps YOU will be kind enough to explain the meaning of TABLEEGH...many who do not know, may benefit from your explanation. We shouldn't get carried away with any misunderstanding. Thank you..
@@hl8302 Bro you people are not aware about our Ulama ....I have practically observed the Taqwa of our Ulama....If you are in any doubt you can contact any nearby Darul Uloom wallahi Insha Allah your are doubts will be cleared.... Knowledge has very much depth we are being falsely decieved when someone qoute Any Hadith and says look they are doing Shirk they are doing biddah wallahi this not truth ....We are being decieved from the path of our Salafs in the name Of Authentic Hadith without having proper knowledge of that Hadith
Tabligh jamaat follows and BELIEVE the book " fazail e amaal" which has many contradictory beliefs which goes against QUR'AN and SUNNAH and the don't follow QUR'AN and SUNNAH as per UNDERSTANDING of SALAF-US-SALIHEEN ... May ALLAH TALA guide the people who FOLLOW jamaat e tabligh
So sad tabligi jamah is not jamat of sofiya shamsi lies. Molana ilyas was a islamic scholar not sofi. I am from pakistan i see every day. Always tabligi say don't prostrate and worship to anybody and anything except Allah.😢😢🙏🏻🙏🏻 Shamsi is salafi that's why he heats to tabligi jamat. واللہ They are not prostrated to graves.😢
Sh. Abu Yazeed Qurtubi said that, “I had heard that whoever recites La ilaha illalla 70,000 times he will be freed from the hellfire. Having heard this I completed one “nasab” (meaning 70,000 times La ilaha illalla) for myself and also finished many other “nasabs” as stock for the hereafter. Near to us there used to live a young man about whom it was famous that he is from the people of Kashf and also the matters of Hellfire and Paradise are revealed to him. One time he happened to eat with us when he uttered a scream and began to breath heavily and said that his mother is burning in hell. (Kandalvi writes): Qurtubi said that as I was watching his bewilderment that a thought came to my mind that I should transfer one of my nasab (70,000 times La ilaha illalla) to his mother so that it will also confirm the honesty of the young man. So I transferred my one nasab to his mother. Nobody knew that I had recited this nasab or transferred it to his mother but Allah but the young man said, “Uncle, my mother has been relieved from the fires of hell.” (Kandalvi continues):Qurtubi says that from this incident I benefitted twice. One was the baraka of the 70,000 times recitation and the other was the honesty of the young man.” (Kandalvi further says): This is just one incident. What do you think about this story? It's in fadha'il a'maal.
Many people go to tabligh tamat. They start growing beard and start following the sunnat of the prophet. Look at you. You are here preaching about islam and our prophet. And don't even have beard yourself. So go back home and research about moulana ilyas. He was not a sufi.
Alhamdulillah im from South Africa and Jamaat work is growing and strong and has helped so many people. The effort has spread to all four corners of the world! SubhanAllah
I love Jamaat Tabligh, iam Indonesian.
Society mocking us, they will say "Stove Jamaat", bcz we cooking at Mosque for our food.
However, i Love brother Muslim, and i will not give up.
Inshallah
SubhanAllah...TJ helped me so much...they don't debate, they don't shout, they don't criticize,...but they call politely in the day and cry for us in the night...subhanAllah
They also do many innovations and misguided people and oppose Sunnah
They say strange stories which goes against Qur'an and Sunnah.
Here is example of their deviance: The gaze of a Tableeghi on a pregnant woman could deliver a wali
Tabish sahab writes that someone informed him that in the masjid of Maharashtra college (Bombay) once a jama`at came to conduct lessons/dars so this man also sat with this group. The speaker started praising this blessed work of tableegh and what they do until he said " the virtue of this blessed work is such that even if the one who goes out in it's path and lays his eyes upon a pregnant woman then she will give birth to a WALI due to his seeing"
[Ref: Kitab mazkuraa page 18]
They don't call politely, if you disagree with them. They will hate you.
And an Atheist at work helped me establish a prayer room, his kindness is acknowledged. But his false beliefs are not. Therefore I need to call him to the truth.
Study the belief system of Tablighi elders, you will see that they contradict Islam.
Don't you see that dewbond,berelvi (Rizvi),shia Pir-sufi worship idols (imams/pirs/majars etc.) and make divisions just like the Hindus Buddhist, christian divided themselves by worshipping different idols:Buddha,Jesus, ram,krisna, Durga, gonesh etc. as symbol of GOD that's inhuman.
And all of them support the blasphemy (I'm God & worship me) of Irani shia sufi monsoor hallaj like Kabbalah Jew who will also follow Dajjal by considering him as their mahdi/mystical sufi!
@realitymedia4370 This is so true.i have tablighi relatives, and they slander major scholars like ibn uthaymeen and ibn baz. They don't make any distinction between sunnah and bid'ah. And if you disagree with them the good character goes flying out of the window. I'd rather be a sinner than to stop sinning and be dragged into their innovations.
Most of the Muslim brothers have misunderstanding about tablighi jamat they are doing a great work as well. Only by willing of of Allah.
Khawārij used to do a lot of ibadah, but they're not upon the truth are they? Show the usūl of Tablighis from the Qur'an and Sunnah
Yes, Tabligi people Makes Many Mosque and Madrasha in Bangladesh 🇧🇩 and Mosque in Korea 🇰🇷 too.
Tabligh has benefitted mankind in the whole world👌💯
That's not the proof for them being on haqq!!
In Malaysia, tabligh jamaat has called so many people to the masjid, they help people to connect with Allah SWT, the masjid, many Madrasah has opened all over Malaysia because of their efforts and sacrifice, which has produced many ulama who studied hadith for 8 years and know the importance of doing dakwah in societies.. They never attack others, they focus on the dakwah..
Wake up from your misguidance.
@@grahamgooch7565 brother go to sleep! I definitely am! Lol
Which ulema lol how is a muqalid and alim it makes no sense.
Right bro
@@asifahmad4748 so are you saying how can an alim be a muqallid as well?
Yeah I wonder how!
Imam Nawawi being a Shaafii muqallid makes no sense! How did he not know that, right!?! I'm being sarcastic if you didn't get it lol
All I can say is that I learnt a lot of important things by going on Jamaat. Very beneficial.
There's nothing more important then the tawheed of Allah and the sunnah of the nabi may peace be upon him.
@@asifahmad4748 well that is what we learn
@Arif Munshi exactly. I lost my dad at 11, didn't really have anyone 2 teach me fard of certain things. I learned how 2 cook whilst being on kidmah, rectified errors in my surahs, learned how to read janaaza prayer (u would be surprised how much ppl don't actually know that). Etiquettes of eating, drinking, sleeping, walking. I didn't even know that tattoos were forbidden b4 I went on jamaat. Most importantly I learned the 6 points 4 the little talk after fajr Salaah. Oh yeah & I've travelled everywhere & met good people who are like family 2 me 2 this day.
@@zedman6473 yes, with false tawheed nothing will be accepted .
@NINO BOY please elaborate as I followed quran & sunnah
Tabligh invites mankind to the way of Allah with Wisdom and beautiful advice 🙏✅
Long live Tabligh 🤲🤲🤲🤲
But stay away from the sect Tablighi Jamaat or Jamaat at-Tabligh.
Becuse of tabligh jamaat I came back to deen in 2007 as 21 year old. It is 2023 now and I still practice the deen. tabligh jamaat is for real.
Red herring dear brother.
Some apparent and observed flaws in the way of the Tableeghi Jamaat, among them:
1. There in too much reliance on story-telling in the Tableeghi Jamaat, whether it is stories of their buzurgs (elders) or strange occurrences that happen during Tableeghi activities (karguzari).
2. Veteran Jamaat members are seen explaining Islamic concepts by means of everyday examples (like trains, buses, etc.), instead of Tafseer and Hadeeth. Carelessness in quoting from the Qur’aan and the Sunnah are widespread, such that speakers bundle up Qur’aan, Hadeeth and stories together, and the listener has no clue as to what is what. At times, we also find, popular sayings being presented as the Hadeeth of Allah’s Messenger ﷺ.
3. Complete new-comers are encouraged to speak in matters of the Deen, and they explain Islamic concepts in light of personal experiences, and often say that which is either false or inappropriate. No objection is raised to such talk, as long as it is centered on the basic idea of going out with the tableeghis for three-days, forty-days, etc. This can be quiet frustrating for someone, who is serious in studying the Deen, and is concerned about the authenticity of what is being said in the name of Allah, the Most High.
4. Though the subjects of Islamic learning are varied, the one who associates with this Jamaat hardly makes any progress in his knowledge because the education there does not go beyond the six-points of tableegh and readings from Fazaail-e-Aamaal.
5. Members of the Tableeghi Jamaat often impose participation on the people without any consideration for their schedule or busyness. They greatly exaggerate the virtues of participation with them and unjustifiably make a person feel guilty for his lack of involvement.
6. Deception was being used to entice people into the ‘three-day routine’;-Veteran tableeghis, who had already registered themselves for the activity, would continually re-register themselves at every mosque to give the impression that a lot of people are participating, and so the one being called should not be left out.
7. Often we found an exaggerated involvement in Tableeghi activities to the extent that individuals were encroaching upon the rights of their family and neglecting the upbringing of their children. Many youngsters were neglecting their education and taking a defeatist attitude towards life.
Though these problems are well-known, our Tableeghi brothers simply denied any such problem flaws! - although they themselves were prime examples of these.
I started going to one last month. I agree with your points. The concept is good but it feels like a subscription that u cant sign out of. Alhamdullilah the people accepted me when I said i wont be going on the next one as i started quran class and other things. I want to learn from the original source. I will say however going once is good since it opens ur mind and it feels like a very primal thing, but doing other daily practices consistently is better than just doing the fard and going to the jamaat once a month. @@ExtremeShez
how many times have u been? @@ExtremeShez
@@hazzy2285 10 yrs or so. Alhumdulillah Allah guided me away from their strange view of Islam.
Wrong info, Mohammed Ilyas has never worshiped graves. Shamshi makes a claim with no evidence. Provide the public with accurate proof, do not misguide people. Either retract or support your claim with actual evidence…
He didn't say he worship grave he pointed out very quickly to the things written his book in which mentioned he did practices like sitting in an empty grave to remember death, finishing Quran in that grave so when he will be there after death the Qur'an will be there with him etc strange methods of Dihkr etc which are not proven by kitab and Sunnah
والله أعلم بالصواب
a lot of their mosques have graves inside from which these persons seek blessings. I personally know their big markaz mosque in Bangalore India has grave of their elder inside
@@abooayeshaaahmed6941
In India a lot of mosques have graves. Doesn’t mean they worship them. In madinah the prophet (saw) is buried and the sahabah (ra), doesn’t mean people worship the graves. Provide proof tabligh jamat worships graves. Stating something without proof is baseless.
@@haroonbhola2618 u must not take graves as mosque
Sahih Muslim 532
I heard from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) five days before his death and he said: I stand acquitted before Allah that I took any one of you as friend, for Allah has taken me as His friend, as he took Ibrahim as His friend. Had I taken any one of my Ummah as a friend, I would have taken Abu Bakr as a friend. Beware of those who preceded you and used to take the graves of their prophets and righteous men as places of worship, but you must not take graves as mosques; I forbid you to do that.
@@haroonbhola2618 u cant pray at graveyard
Leave tabligh alone shamsi. They done and still doing alot . May Allah bless them
May Allāh destroy the tabligh jamaat ameen.
@@grahamgooch7565 hello extremists cult lover boy
@@amazingsoul569
Hello grave worshiping follower
@@grahamgooch7565 this is the biggest lie, not a single one of em do it. No proof whatsoever either.
@@grahamgooch7565
You are a liar.
Those who asked help to sufi dorbash, stop doing because of tablig.
Tablig making us true Muslims. La ilaha illallah, Mohammad ur Rasoolul Allah.
I learn about islam in tableeg and they teach tawheed.❤
Asslamu Alaikum Brother Shamsi, I'm from 🇮🇳, The tablighi jamaat mission is to told people that whatever happens is just becoz of Allah, They told about the Imaan(Taqwa) of Sahabas and told us to act upon it and be like United brother of Ummah of prophet Muhammad Nabi
What is Jama'at al-Tabligh?
“Jama’at al-Tabligh ” is one of the groups that are working for Islam. Their efforts in calling people to Allah (da’wah) cannot be denied. But like many other groups they make some mistakes, and some points should be noted concerning them.
Mistakes of Jama'at al-Tabligh
These points may be summed up as follows, noting that these mistakes may vary within this group, depending on the environment and society in which they find themselves. In societies in which knowledge and scholars are prevalent and the madhhab of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jama’ah is widespread, the mistakes are much less; in other societies these mistakes may be greater. Some of their mistakes are:
1 - Not adopting the ‘aqidah of Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jama'ah. This is clearly seen from the variations in the ‘aqidah of some of their members and even of some of their leaders.
2 - Their not paying attention to shar’i knowledge.
3 - Their misinterpretation of some Quranic verses in a manner that was not intended by Allah. For example they interpret the verses on jihad as referring to “going out for da’wah”. The verses which mentioned the word khuruj (going out) etc. are interpreted by them as meaning going out for da’wah.
4 - They make their system of going out for da’wah an act of worship. So they started to misquote the Quran to support their system which specifies certain numbers of days and months. This system, which they think is based on evidence from Quran, is widespread among them in all countries and environments.
5 - They do some things that go against shari’ah, such as appointing one of them to make du'a for them whilst the group goes out for da’wah, and they think that their success or failure depends on whether or not this man was sincere and his du'a accepted.
6 - Da’if (weak) and mawdu’ (fabricated) ahadeeth are widespread among them, and this is not befitting for those who aim to call people to Allah.
7 - They do not speak of munkarat (evil things), thinking that enjoining what is good is sufficient. Hence we find that they do not speak about evils that are widespread among the people, even though the slogan of this ummah - which they continually repeat - is:
“Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining Al-Ma‘ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do) and forbidding Al-Munkar (polytheism and disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden). And it is they who are the successful” [Aal ‘Imran 3:104 - interpretation of the meaning]
The successful are those who enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, not just those who do only one of the two.
(...)
@@aspirin2912 The points you mentioned are true ......Some of The Ulama interpreted some verses according to their own understanding but Alhamdullilah Our Ulama Guided us and Informed us what wrong was done
@@aspirin2912 the people connected to the TJ may have some faults but that doesnt mean the principles of TJ are faulty. Its like we muslims may make mistakes while offering salah but that doesnt mean the Salah is wrong or the islam is wrong.
According to the principles of TJ only Rawafid and Qadyanis are not allowed in the daawah.But muslims of different schools of thoughts are giving daawah(working) in TJ.
I also want to add that one of the principle of TJ is not to discuss ideologies or differences between the school of thoughts.
@@aspirin2912
Without disrespect😇
1. check out the aqaid of Molana Ilyas and the principles of TJ
2. You dont know how many people have joined islamic institutions because of TJ. You are unaware that doesn't mean it hasn't happened or it isnt happening.Many people became huffaaz,ulema, muftis and when they were asked what lead you people to join madaris they said its because of TJ.
3. Its not in the principles.. Some people may have done it that is not the fault of the TJ.
4. Saving someone from hellfire is not a worship?
5. Appointing one to make dua is not against shariah. And who said that they blame the person for the failiure. 😆 Their pet word is "whatever happens is because of allah" and you are accusing them with this. 😆
6.Da'eef hadees are mentioned in almost every hadees books, do we throw them out of the window?
7.wrong again... Check out different lectures/preachings on youtube you will see with your own eyes their topics and contents.
And lastly
The meaning is from ibn- kaseer
"You are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind; you enjoin Al-Ma`ruf (all that Islam has ordained) and forbid Al-Munkar (all that Islam has forbidden), and you believe in Allah"
@@kream2624 they don't follow quran and sunnah ,they simply read fadhaail e amal which contains sufi stories, shirq,bidat, etc...avoid these to become success.
Tableeghi is like decorated grave but inside you have empty....
In Indonesia, some people have been helped to go back to masjid by JT. That's a fact.
And then many of them found and fall in love with majlis ilmu, learning about sunnah, and then left JT. That's a fact too. Alhamdulillah.
What is majlis ilmu? Is it a Salafi organization?
@@anoniem012 it means a place where people learn about Islam from scholars; a way of delivering knowledge face-to-face, usually held at masjid
and no, there were never nor will be "Salafi's organization" since (manhaj) salaf means a proper method of being a moslem, to base anything upon Al-Qur'an and As-Sunnah as how Sahabat (radhiyallahu anhum) understood
Allahua'lam
Same in Pakistan. They are playing a pivotal role in bringing youth to masjids.
Most of the comments are in favour of tableegi jamat.... The kind of work they are doing is masha allah...
Tabligh is necessary.👌💯
The prophet s.a.w. said" Convey my message to the people of the world.🙏
Alhamdulilah Allah i do learn alot with jaamat Tablighi
Your point really hit me hard ....How can you give Fatwa on Tableegi jamaat as if you have Read All fiqah books ....You are also doing such a Great work ....But what about those muslims who are by name Muslims who will go to them ....Its Tableeghi Jamaat who diverted Millions of muslims To Siraate Mustaqeem....You are blaming them.,....Ah Shamsi Ah!
What is Jama'at al-Tabligh?
“Jama’at al-Tabligh ” is one of the groups that are working for Islam. Their efforts in calling people to Allah (da’wah) cannot be denied. But like many other groups they make some mistakes, and some points should be noted concerning them.
Mistakes of Jama'at al-Tabligh
These points may be summed up as follows, noting that these mistakes may vary within this group, depending on the environment and society in which they find themselves. In societies in which knowledge and scholars are prevalent and the madhhab of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jama’ah is widespread, the mistakes are much less; in other societies these mistakes may be greater. Some of their mistakes are:
1 - Not adopting the ‘aqidah of Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jama'ah. This is clearly seen from the variations in the ‘aqidah of some of their members and even of some of their leaders.
2 - Their not paying attention to shar’i knowledge.
3 - Their misinterpretation of some Quranic verses in a manner that was not intended by Allah. For example they interpret the verses on jihad as referring to “going out for da’wah”. The verses which mentioned the word khuruj (going out) etc. are interpreted by them as meaning going out for da’wah.
4 - They make their system of going out for da’wah an act of worship. So they started to misquote the Quran to support their system which specifies certain numbers of days and months. This system, which they think is based on evidence from Quran, is widespread among them in all countries and environments.
5 - They do some things that go against shari’ah, such as appointing one of them to make du'a for them whilst the group goes out for da’wah, and they think that their success or failure depends on whether or not this man was sincere and his du'a accepted.
6 - Da’if (weak) and mawdu’ (fabricated) ahadeeth are widespread among them, and this is not befitting for those who aim to call people to Allah.
7 - They do not speak of munkarat (evil things), thinking that enjoining what is good is sufficient. Hence we find that they do not speak about evils that are widespread among the people, even though the slogan of this ummah - which they continually repeat - is:
“Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining Al-Ma‘ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do) and forbidding Al-Munkar (polytheism and disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden). And it is they who are the successful” [Aal ‘Imran 3:104 - interpretation of the meaning]
The successful are those who enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, not just those who do only one of the two.
Since Saudi banned them, so the dawah organizations in UK also need to speak against them. Otherwise they wont get support from Saudi in their own dawah.
@@FreePalestine_____ Couldn't have said it better bro
Yes absolutely in this poitn iam totally 100 percent disagree but also appreciate his work against shia Christian and jews but he is wrong about tablgi jamat
@@FreePalestine_____ so you are saying ISLAM should be practiced based upon SAUDI's decision?!
Tabligh changed my life alhamdulilah. This guy is wrong . Not all tawasuf is wrong .
If some peoples of tabligi jamat left the masjid by listening tawheed doesnt mean that they are not on tawheed i know peoples connected with tabligi jammat and they are doing great work highly disciplined peoples. I know some of the in their books contain zaeef hadith and they need to correct that. On other hand i am also addicted to your work mashallah you are doing great work too i appreciate that but what my view is they are not dealing with non muslim they only focuses on muslim ummah and call them to majid and your most work is based on calling non muslims to islam i think we need both to grow why dont we stop pointing fingers on each other just hold hands of each other side by side do your job in which you are professional and work as a institution so that no one can break our bond❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Ya Allah guide us to the right path
Im a mexican revert and i dont exactly understand what is wrong about tablig, i met one and nothing seems to be wrong, how is visiting a masjid and pray wrong, also helps you meet other muslims and in a non muslim country to make other brothers feel part of this. Allahu alam
There main criticism against tabligh jamaat is as follows:
- They don't focus on learning islamic knowledge.
- Some verses and hadith are interpreted in an incorrect manner. For instance the famous hadith "departing and returning in Allah's path is better than the world and what it contains" TJ interpret "Allah's path" as "khorooj" whereas it is unanimously known among scholars to mean for military conquest.
- They focus on da3wa for Muslims but leave non-Muslims. They argue that we must first guide back all non-practising Muslims to Islam, then only we can do da3wa to non-Muslims. Which is incorrect.
- The average tabligh person has very little knowledge and can often say things which are incorrect. If you spend some time with them, you will notice that they often repeat the same 15-20 hadiths.
Having spent much time with them I must admit that their efforts are good and their manners and discipline are impeccable. Nevertheless there are some areas for improvement.
Tablig is the best things happen for Muslims ummah in this last time. Keep working with Tablig.
Because of Tablig efforts, many people who left Islam are coming back to Islam. Tablig make us a strong believer and followers of Prophet Mohammad(sa).
@@safiul1930incorrect.
Some apparent and observed flaws in the way of the Tableeghi Jamaat, among them:
1. There in too much reliance on story-telling in the Tableeghi Jamaat, whether it is stories of their buzurgs (elders) or strange occurrences that happen during Tableeghi activities (karguzari).
2. Veteran Jamaat members are seen explaining Islamic concepts by means of everyday examples (like trains, buses, etc.), instead of Tafseer and Hadeeth. Carelessness in quoting from the Qur’aan and the Sunnah are widespread, such that speakers bundle up Qur’aan, Hadeeth and stories together, and the listener has no clue as to what is what. At times, we also find, popular sayings being presented as the Hadeeth of Allah’s Messenger ﷺ.
3. Complete new-comers are encouraged to speak in matters of the Deen, and they explain Islamic concepts in light of personal experiences, and often say that which is either false or inappropriate. No objection is raised to such talk, as long as it is centered on the basic idea of going out with the tableeghis for three-days, forty-days, etc. This can be quiet frustrating for someone, who is serious in studying the Deen, and is concerned about the authenticity of what is being said in the name of Allah, the Most High.
4. Though the subjects of Islamic learning are varied, the one who associates with this Jamaat hardly makes any progress in his knowledge because the education there does not go beyond the six-points of tableegh and readings from Fazaail-e-Aamaal.
5. Members of the Tableeghi Jamaat often impose participation on the people without any consideration for their schedule or busyness. They greatly exaggerate the virtues of participation with them and unjustifiably make a person feel guilty for his lack of involvement.
6. Deception was being used to entice people into the ‘three-day routine’;-Veteran tableeghis, who had already registered themselves for the activity, would continually re-register themselves at every mosque to give the impression that a lot of people are participating, and so the one being called should not be left out.
7. Often we found an exaggerated involvement in Tableeghi activities to the extent that individuals were encroaching upon the rights of their family and neglecting the upbringing of their children. Many youngsters were neglecting their education and taking a defeatist attitude towards life.
Though these problems are well-known, our Tableeghi brothers simply denied any such problem flaws! - although they themselves were prime examples of these.
Tabligh jamat have revived the ummah back to Islamic teachings
@@usman3ooo TJ has mainly had a strong impact on Muslim from diaspora communities living the West. But the main criticism I have towards them is the lack of da3'wah to non-Muslims. Many Muslims in the West already know Islam, they just choose not to follow it. Whereas there are many non-Muslims who are genuinely curious about Islam but Tabligh Jamaat don't care about them.
Tabligh is not limited to certain people or it is not a jamat but it is a responsibility given to us by Allah and his prophet (SAW). Even shamsi has the responsibility to do tableegh. Raiwand tableegh is just so good they never ask something from somebody except turn to Allah. They ask everything from Allah.
My grandpa was a hardline TJ, i never see him doing sufi stuff, pray in graveyard, none of that. He always went to Mosque and give da'wah thats all. No sufi, no dancing, no nothing
Jamaat has has some wrongs but they also have alot of goodness. Going to and Reminding the Muslims about Allah and Akhira and calling them to saleh.
May Allah correct they wrongs and preserve them
I respect Shamsi but he is wrong when it comes to this. In countries such as India and Pakistan there are countless muslims going astray following sects such as the barelwis who pray to graves and so forth. Tablighi Jama'at has stopped a lot of this and are guiding people back to islam. They follow Quran and Sunnah, you just have differences in terms of its interpretation.
Shamsi is correct and you’d know this if only you read fazaail amaal. Clear shirk in this book.
@@grahamgooch7565 I had two of them from back in the day when I was a part of them, I couldn't believe my eyes when I later understood the mistakes and had to burn them.
Akhī i live in India & myself have, seen that tablighi jamāt & barelwi are 2 sides of the same coin
@@Reminders102
Thank you exactly. Both upon misguidance
@@Easy_Now_Star
May Allāh keep you firm upon the Sunnah ameen.
Too easy calling other groups misguided, as of they are infallible. From his own claim, whilst the Jamaat calls muslim who lacking in prayers to pray to the mosque, they wanted debates; The Jamaat seems has better characters & manners to leave and do dakwah then to debates unnecessarily with him. Whilst they're (JT) not perfect, they do good job to turn people towards the Quran & Sunnah.
Did u know they're ahlul bidah?
@@ayyemmm Dont make false claims .... If you have proof present it.
@@ayyemmm Daesh do like to do takfir & split the ummah. Don't be like them & don't easily give blanket fatwa on people.
@@ayyemmm bold claim... Where are your facts... Evidence?
@@ayyemmm they do many innovations and misguidance they’re callers to hellfire
Proud to be Tableeghi😏😏😏😏
@Sabir Alhamdullilah
@Sabir i studied with them for 3 years I've never saw any misguidance... I couldn't find Shirk in the Fadhail Amaal...you can bring the founders but our belief is not base on what they brought... So it's sad that we saw people criticizing the tablighi... But when we call them to have a discussion they fled like wild pig are being hunted...
Do you know why it's taught that To reach the highest level of spirituality you need to repeat that 'I'm God and prostrate to me' like irani shia Sufi mansoor hallaj?
Because anti-christ dajjal will say that "I'am god & prostrate to me!
True Muslims will reject anti-christ for blaspheming (death penalty by TRUE GOD's laws)
Because Our beloved Prophet (ﷺ) never said that “I am GOD or prostrate to me!
@@mohamednawaz3538 Don't you see that dewbondi, berelvi (Rizvi),shia Pir-sufi worship idols (imams/pirs/majars etc.) and make divisions just like the Hindus Buddhist, christian divided themselves by worshipping different idols:Buddha,Jesus, ram,krisna, Durga, gonesh etc. as symbol of GOD that's inhuman.
And all of them support the blasphemy (I'm God & worship me) of Irani shia sufi monsoor hallaj like Kabbalah Jew who will also follow Dajjal by considering him as their mahdi/mystical sufi!
They are destroying the unity of Mankind. For their heinous acts they all are going to be deceived by the antichrist (dajjal).
@@Truth_come_to_perish_falsehood This reply of yours make me laugh. Anyway I'm not a Deobandi nor the other you mentioned, some of them i would agree are sectarian, but i see that the pseudo salafi has not yet united the ummah but dividing it more rather than the Deobandi.
Shamsi is wrong on this, there is ikhtilaf among scholars on if Tableegh Al Jamat are ok or not. Saying Tableegh al Jamat is linked to Sufism is like saying salafia is because we study 40 hadeeth by Nawawi. Tableeghi people don’t tell you to worship a grave or make shirk, they just remind you to go to your local masjid whenever you can. In this day and age that is a good thing!
He also said our Mezan is not how many people become Muslims. Not sure who preceded him in this statement because it’s bizarre. Our duty is to bring as many people to Islam as possible.
@Google: “who is the best person in the world”
How does anyone know who is following the complete truth. Everyone works in their own capacity. He mentioned in the segment before this that Saudi accepting help from the America gov was the correct thing to do in the gulf war, yet he always calls the USA United Snakes of America the big shaytan. So are we to believe that he thinks it was better for Saudi to work with the United Snakes of America the big shaytan against Sadam and going against Al albanis fatwa. Allying with a shayateen against a neighbouring Muslim country under a Baathist secular government. Not even the Saudis ever regarded the USA as snakes.
There are many ways to discredit if someone seems to be on a congruent truth or not, these are minutia points. The main thing is Islam will be raised by the words of Muslims who are true believers and calling to Islam is from the path of the prophets, nothing more nothing less.
@Google: “who is the best person in the world” I can not see the 4 videos
Brother going for khurooj 3 days,40 days,4 months where they get this from.... everyone is questioning about khurooj that they go...not when they call astray muslims to come back to masjids! khurooj in Tablighi jamaat manner is definitely bida'h there is no doubt about that!
@@usmanans5364 it is only a bid’ah if it is a newly formed worship to Allah. Example, every year salafis have a 2 day dawrah each year that coincides with Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Anyone can turn around and say why is this date stipulated each year when the quaran and sunnah does not stipulate to have a dawrah this time of the year EVERY single year.
In regards to the book Fazail-e-Amaal there may be many mistakes in there, but we can find mistakes in many books. However the scholars should refute it.
@@strictlyyoutube6881 brother i m not a salafi and i don't know about there anything....this is not the argument for justify bida'h of Tablighi jamaat to points out another group of people and say that they r also doing bida'h...and the problem with fazail e amaal that the Tablighi jamaat people don't let any other books preach or use for taleem.thats also wrong they only stick to fazail e amal only it's like a...fazail e amal is central book for there people!
♥️❤️♥️❤️ TABLIGH JAMAAT IS 100% QURAN AND SUNNAH. THE ONLY BEST WAY TO GET CLOSER TO ALLAH AND DIE AS A MUSLIM. ♥️❤️♥️❤️
How is this Qur'an and Sunnah? An example of a concerning issue that have been found in Tablighi Nisāb / Fazaail-e-Aamaal.
From Fazaail-e-Aamaal (Virtues of Charity): A virtuous man once *sat down near the grave of a generous person and related that he needed some Deenaars (money) to help a beggar. In the night, he saw the man of the grave in his dream*, who directed the virtuous man to go to his house where in a corner lay buried five hundred Deenaars, which he should give it to the beggar. Next morning, the man visited the house of the man in the grave, spoke to the family members and thus, the Deenaars were found. The man told the family members to keep the wealth for they were legal successors of the wealth. But they refused saying that it was shameful for them that *their ancestor could be generous even after his death and they could not be during their life.* The Deenars were thus, given to the beggar but the beggar only took half a Deenar.
*Reference:* Fazaail-e-Aamaal, (Eng. Trans.), Virtues of Charity, Chapter.7, story no.24, p.195-196 (New Edition 1982, Published by Dini Book Depot -Delhi).
There is no clarification, before or after this story that such-and such belief is not true, and that this story is only meant to encourage charity. Instead, what is found is the *following , comment by Moulana Zakariyyah* “The thing to be _noted and considered in the above story is as to who was most generous The deceased or his family or the beggar?_
_In our view, the beggar was most generous as in spite of his needs, he did not take more than half of a Deenar.” [end quote]_
Can a just person, after reading this comment, honestly say that a commoner to whom such stories are read, will only take encouragement for righteous actions from it, and not form a misguided opinion about the ability of the dead righteous to perform righteous acts and benefit the living? *Rather, this story helps formulate the belief, and Moulana Zakariyyah’s comment re-enforce it!*
*The idea that benefits may be received from the grave is the basic premise for grave worship.* And we have seen already the dangers of attachment to graves, and the severe warning by Allah's Messenger (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wassallam) against taking graves as places of worship.
As for the intent of Moulana Zakariyyah, none can argue, after reading his comment, that such stories are not meant to teach a particular Aqeedah, especially since he himself approves, *“The same benefit which was received from the Faqir's physical life will be acquired from his grave.”* _Mashaikh-e-Chist (Eng. Trans.) p.211_
They dont read quran with meaning, the follow fazail e Aamaal not quran
1. The way Tabligh movement perform their work is very penetrating in the society, so they meet every Muslims in every field, brothels, clubs or pubs. So many of Muslims becoming practical after joining Tablighi Jamat.
2. Since Tablighi movement is like a first step, if they start talking about masayal and adeedah in public then many would not join them, however this doesn't mean they should not discuss those aspects. They usually refer such things people like sheikh.
Taken from the comment of @Alfixmath
Shamsi I watch your videos and find you very knowledgeable, but in this topic you are wrong and need to do more research before making such a bold claim!
He has researched that's why he made a claim. Tablighi jamāt books promotes shirk, bidah
@@Reminders102
He is wrong.
@@safiul1930 produce a proof if you're truthful
Alhamdulilah I am a Tabliiq From Swiss 🌙
This guy has wrong knowledge of Tablighi jamaath. I am from India and I know Tablighi jamaath.
yeah he is just parroting what the other najdis say
What's wrong with you shamsi? My house members are tablighi members..and its anti sufi..and pure monotheistic. You're out of mind or paid by MBS ?? U hv shocked me today.
He is an absolute muppet, seriously
He is saying that if the leader of it follows the correct teachings is fine, he worded it not correctly so they may be this understanding
Yes i was big fan him but in this iam very sad
Tabligh jamaat are upon misguidance. They have clear shirk in their books. If you don’t know this then ask Allāh to guide you.
@@only-islah6550
I’m sure Shamsi will be ok without you being a fan anymore lol
They don't go to graves and do such things.. that's certain extreme messed up Sufis that have given a stain the true tazkiya. Everyone might not agreed with them but for sure their works and efforts are amazing and they focus on transformation physically and spiritually.
Assalamualaikum with all due respect i would suggest brother shamsi to spend some time with tableeghi jamaat and go to their marakiz and hear their speeches all of those are based only on imaan and namaaz none other than that.
They dont claim to six usool to be full deen but almost covers the major part of deen.
They teach the sunnah as well. Please study them in detail personally. Read their muntakhab a haadees compilation about the virtues.
Their muntakab ahadith contains shirk & bidah
@@Reminders102 Prove it?
@@Reminders102 hes never read the book.
@@Reminders102 without evidence very easy to say bidah shirk.
*Baatil Karamaat no. 1 of Deobandis Tablighis - The gaze of a Tableeghi on a pregnant woman could deliver a wali (instead of controlling his gaze)*
Tabish sahab writes that someone informed him that in the masjid of Maharashtra college (Bombay) once a jama`at came to conduct lessons/dars so this man also sat with this group. The speaker started praising this blessed work of tableegh and what they do until he said " the virtue of this blessed work is such that even if the one who goes out in it's path and lays his eyes upon a pregnant woman then she will give birth to a WALI due to his seeing" *(instead of controlling his gaze)*
[Ref: Kitab mazkuraa page 18]
Shamsi, you are wrong in this regard. You need to educate yourself regarding JamátTabligh.
Don’t be upset. Now your up against the real Sunnah dawah. Tabligh jamaat are upon severe misguidance. And the refuge of Allāh is sought.
And remember just because you may see good in something it doesn't make it good!
Watch about jamaat tabligh by syeikh uthman
How can you test people that go out in jamat when most of them are kids off the street who have been brought into the mosque to learn about the basics of Islam.
Our prophet (saw) said convey from me even an Ayah.
If you know just la ilaaha ila Allah. You can do dawah
@@YMe-hp7hi but their Daw'ah doesn't involve la ilaha ilAllah
@@Reminders102 are you serious?? La ilaha illallah is the first lesson.
@@arifmunshi6833 who's 1st lesson??
@@Reminders102 in jamat
Where did you got that from, that Muhammad Ilyas use to sit on grave.
I have a great respect for Shamsi but you are way off on this, I think you should really repent for wrongfully accusing someone.
The most learned scholars of Islam including major salafi scholars never condemned jamaat, they point out their wrongs and praise their work of calling the Muslims back to deen.
This shamsi guy is an extremist hizbi. He failed to see the diverse and the goodness of the ummah. I myself follow the madahab of the Salaf, but I have no issue with jamaat or anyone calling people to Allah.
That's what I would have expected him to say. This is poor from our beloved brother shamsi.
Shamsi is one of the most humble and respectful Brothers I have ever met. He is not perfect like all of us but he is trying to follow Quran and Sunnah and call people back to Tawheed. It is funny how you call him "Extremist" when He was one of the first people to confront and expose the Kharijites supporting ISIS/Anjem Choudury in Speakers Corner when everyone else was too scared too.
i never hear jamaah tabligh do encourage grave worship any taklim they do,but only told us to be masjid lover that it,
also story about do not waste time and always reminder to remember Allah the almighty creator,
for me better be good assumption for all muslim..Akidah laiilla ha illallah,Muhammad dur rasul Allah, of course as mankind
we not perfect..
You are super wrong. To think this way is also against the sinnah and the salaf... They don't teach "follow this ulema or that one only and the rest are all bad or evil." you think that way... You are wrong shamsi may Allah guide you and all of us to the right and balanced deen إن شاء الله
@It's a Journey agreed, still I would reserve judgement before knowing all the facts as it should be with everything in life, may Allah make it easier for all of us ameen
Naam - Shamsi again misinforming the youth.
He is
You people actually don't want the correct information
@@Reminders102 shamsi is wrong as usual
@@zakzak613 so why u watch him as usual?? 😂
If u have problems with accepting the proofs then stop following N watching him
@@Reminders102 i rarely watch him because most of the time he is clueless, very backward and has a narrow and superficial understanding of issues and the scholars he follows are more shallower. Come to the right path and please stop followíng Wahabis, the Wahabis are going down!
The Comments here Ma shaa Allah are enough for people to realize the bizarre and completely false statements made by Bro Shamsi. comparing people that start every statement with, " Allah ki zaat say hota hai sab and Allah k baghair kuch nahi hota". i e Everything happens by Allah's permission and nothing can happen without His Permission.
Amazing how ignorant Bro Shamsi is on this matter.
Sh. Abu Yazeed Qurtubi said that, “I had heard that whoever recites La ilaha illalla 70,000 times he will be freed from the hellfire. Having heard this I completed one “nasab” (meaning 70,000 times La ilaha illalla) for myself and also finished many other “nasabs” as stock for the hereafter. Near to us there used to live a young man about whom it was famous that he is from the people of Kashf and also the matters of Hellfire and Paradise are revealed to him. One time he happened to eat with us when he uttered a scream and began to breath heavily and said that his mother is burning in hell. (Kandalvi writes): Qurtubi said that as I was watching his bewilderment that a thought came to my mind that I should transfer one of my nasab (70,000 times La ilaha illalla) to his mother so that it will also confirm the honesty of the young man. So I transferred my one nasab to his mother. Nobody knew that I had recited this nasab or transferred it to his mother but Allah but the young man said, “Uncle, my mother has been relieved from the fires of hell.” (Kandalvi continues):Qurtubi says that from this incident I benefitted twice. One was the baraka of the 70,000 times recitation and the other was the honesty of the young man.” (Kandalvi further says): This is just one incident.
This is in fadha'il a'maal - what do you have to say about this story?
@@cjamo65able A complete strawman. Read my comment again and then tell me what your bizarre claim has to do with tablighis being compared to sufis. There are fabricated Ahadith in Fadhail e Amal(Urdu) and they are mentioned with references. In the English translations these have been been taken out. The Ulemas have made the texts for the Tablighi laymen more clear. The issue is calling people who bring Muslims(by name) to the masjid and asking them to follow the Sunnah, deviants and thats complete 🐂 💩 on shamis part. Just like he was wrong and ignorant on the matter of khurooj he's done it again here. It's nothing new.
@@mrumbobo5683 my 'bizarre claim' was meant to demonstrate the kind of sufi-like mumbo jumbo that is in the books of the Jamaat. If you think it's fabricated, I'll get the reference for you. As page numbers change between editions, just let me know what edition you read & I'll get it for you.
@@cjamo65able ps your story even though mentioned in Fadhail E Amal have been delt with by Ulema a long time ago
Bismillah hir-Rahman nir-Rahim !
(Fatwa: 176/131/B=2/1439)
This number is not proved from the Quran and Hadith. It is the experience of elders. Someone tells to read it seventy thousand times and someone tells to read it one lakh twenty five thousand times. The most excellent dhikr is the Holy Quran, it should be recited and then isal-e-sawab and dua for forgiveness should be made for the dead. At least recite Surah Ikhlas 11 times and do isal-o-sawab.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband, India
You can go check the reference yourself.
@@cjamo65able your story has nothing to do with the Aqaid of the Jamat. Reading surah Ikhlas 70000 being an experience of an elder someone respect and then having whatever vision they claim to have is a "personal opinion" they have. Some people might agree with them and others might not. It should and other incidents likewise should not be conflated with the Quran and Ahadith and its better to follow the Authentic tradition of Ahadith, this everyone in the Jamat knows and follows. The Tablighi people being driven out of masjids of Barelvis and other villages where they openly tell people not to worship the graves in Pakistan is proof enough of Brother Shamis ignorance of the matter.
U r so wrong here nd u know nothing about jamaat, they called themselves Ahle sunnah Wal jamaah. I never go with them Bt I know and the reality is maulana ilyaas not come from sufi background my advice is to correct ur self first bcoz it's make u false. Learn first then speak
He said tablighis aren't on tawhid and Quran and sunnah, audhubillah, that's a clear takfir, he's insinuating we aren't Muslim. This is what his takfiri khawarij forefather abdul wahab did, made clear takfir on millions of Muslims
Bro the solution to this Khawarij supporting MADkhlis is just tell them Bro Hajji is coming and stand back and watch how he and his cult members run on their tails
Many in SC have boycotted those Khawarij supporting MADkhlis... do the same and add Sam Dawah to the list
Why r u so triggered. By stating an ideology to be upon kufr does not mean u beleive all the followers r kuffar as some are unaware. Again getting way too emotional instead of taking heed and looking into a matter.
@@hl8302 Thats why you guys have a nickname "the closet takfiris"
@@hl8302 You make takfir without it seeming to be a takfir, tell me what it is if it isn't a takfir because as far as I know a kaafir is one who doesn't call to tawhid or warn of shirk, and he's saying that about us
Adakah jamaah tabligh mengajak orang minum arak, berjudi, berzina, membunuh, merompak, menipu? Setahu saya mereka mengajak orang kembali menjadi hamba yang taat kepada Allah...
Tauhid mereka murni, mereka mengajar bahawa tiada sesuatu yang boleh memberi manfaat selain Allah, seperti contoh, makanan bukanlah yang mengenyangkan perut, tetapi Allah lah yang memberi kekenyangan, air bukanlah yang menghilangkan haus, tapi Allah lah yang menghilangkan rasa haus, bukan ubat yang menyembuhkan penyakit, tapi Allah lah yang menyembuhkan penyakit, bukan peluru yang menyebabkan kematian, tapi Allah lah yang mematikan.... dengan ini mereka mengajar untuk tidak bergantung kepada makhluk tapi hanya bergantung pada Allah Pencipta...
Apakah kamu rasa ajaran mereka ini menyesatkan?
Well said
He needs 2 spend time in rywand . Go out 2 all the poor deprived villages in middle East and c how this imaan m.i mehnat has helped show the right path 2 millions
Tableeghi jamaat doesn't spread or preach sufism or any sect but they only reviving the concern of faith and strongly believe in Tawheed Alhamdulillah
What us Tawheed according to Tablighis?
@@ExtremeShez Tawheed of Qur'an Alhamdulillah
@@mdirfanshaikh494 Define the Tablighi understanding of Tawheed of the Qur'an?
@@ExtremeShez as far as I know they only affirm Tawheed ar-Ruboobiyyah. Rest of it is Tawheed of Ahl al-Kalam.
@@kylemunroe2133 have you read Qur'an
I'm Tableeghi and my Tawheed is the Tawheed of Qur'an
Shamsi bro i respected you but you are wrong about tablghi jamat they are not sufi and also you don't have knowledge about ilyas sahab so plzz don't
Ilyas sahab was a sufi & who introduced Bidah
Absolutely fake news
Maulana Ilyas was a direct descendant of Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddiqui Radhialla anhu. They don't believe in graveyard worship, as they believe it to be Shirk.
Back in the 1920's at a time that was very unfortunate when the Muslim ummah was losing the Khilafat in Turkey.
Only in India the revolution voice was very strong and louder. And amongst those voices came out the effort of Dawat and Tabligh.
Maulana Ilyas rahmatullah Alaihi had a great concern for the whole Muslim ummah.
He gathered the pious scholars in India and they had no solution. He then went to Makkah and Medinah and cried in front Allah.
He collected scholars while at Makkah and Medinah in regards to what was happening to the Ummah of Hazrat Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wasallam.
It was only then that almighty Allah guided Maulana Ilyas rahmatullah Alaihi to carry out this noble effort of Dawat and Tabligh.
At the time nobody wanted to listen him as he went through a lot hardship to carry out this effort. But Allah's promise has always been with the truthful.
100 years later this effort is not just in the big major cities, but is flourishing across the globe in many villages where your media electricity has still not reached yet.
From sunrise to sunset, Alhumdu you will find effort in every part of the world, where people are leaving their houses, families and businesses, spending in the path of Allah, trying to rectify their imaan and the same time reviving Islam across globe.
Therefore brother, we humbly and politely request you, to do your research properly before making any false accusations.
Lies
In malaysia tablig is a group who to house to house give some dakwah and invite muslim to mousqe
Brother Shamsi Tablighi Jamaat is Not Sufi as you said they are nice and humble people They are Ahlle sunnah May Allah Guide Us All brother shamsi to spend some time with tableeghi jamaat and go to their marakiz and hear their speeches all of those are based only on imaan and namaaz They dont claim to six usool to be full deen but almost covers the major part of deen.
First, Learn what is Tawheed and its importance in Islam.
Islam is not based upon shirkiyya stories. Islam is based upon Qur'an and Sunnah and understanding of Salaf.
TJ founders were all one way or another Sufi. They have infiltrated Sunni Muslims without anyone realising
they r deobandi n deobandi is a False sect fazail amal is Full of Shirk n bidah
Tablighis do many innovations too they are far from Sunnah
Big up Tabliq send shamsi 40 days Jamat
You should be in prison. You are being treacherous towards the authentic Sunnah.
10 days, 20 days, 40 days, you should be in Dawah mode all of your life.
@@Easy_Now_Star na 3 days Jamat is a good spiritual rehab
@@Easy_Now_Star exactly why they say to do the effort in your locality.
Nah he needs to go 4 months. To fix this twit up. 🤣
Honestly I never seen Tabligh Jammat at graves. I've seen them green headed Muslims at graves and Durbars.
I ❤️Tabligh🙏
In India many people left Islam in 1947, while villages came back to Islam after the efforts of tableegh. You may disagree with some of their opinions and their shuyukh. But their work of keeping Indian Muslims as Muslims and bringing thousands of Indian Muslims as Muslims through them. Yes they have sufis but not extreme like those who pray to graves.
You are so proud brother. May Allah guides your heart. The more knowledge you know, should make you more humble. Not like syaytan.
Wallahi you're very right brother.
Shamsi has just done a David wood and just googled it. Haha!
How?
This point I disagree you samshi... I love you much but this time you no have brake regarding tabligi .. regardless there having some good things and bad things you point out there limitations.. I think you embarrass us .. most of the jamat group is doing the work for the sake Allah and prophet s.a.w.... you just finished it in 5 mins .. may Allah protects us
Tabligh and all other reminders of Almighty ALLAAH and Mohammad s.a.w. is for yourself reformation and a benefit to oneself.
Alhamdullilah tabligh has improved many people and brought them on to salah ect.
There are a few extreme fanatics who do not understand that you first change your own actions before you can change someone else, and first of all, know that you are the worst sinner to another. We are all at the mercy of Almighty ALLAAH rabbul izzit.
Shamsi thinks he knows abt tabligi lol send mbs to 3 days Jamat
Sufiyas are also of two types....one who are corrupted and others who are on quran and sunnah.. . So you need to understand that brother shamsi
@ühhh ühhh show me one wahaabi who following sunna they all terror
What is Jama'at al-Tabligh?
“Jama’at al-Tabligh ” is one of the groups that are working for Islam. Their efforts in calling people to Allah (da’wah) cannot be denied. But like many other groups they make some mistakes, and some points should be noted concerning them.
Mistakes of Jama'at al-Tabligh
These points may be summed up as follows, noting that these mistakes may vary within this group, depending on the environment and society in which they find themselves. In societies in which knowledge and scholars are prevalent and the madhhab of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jama’ah is widespread, the mistakes are much less; in other societies these mistakes may be greater. Some of their mistakes are:
1 - Not adopting the ‘aqidah of Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jama'ah. This is clearly seen from the variations in the ‘aqidah of some of their members and even of some of their leaders.
2 - Their not paying attention to shar’i knowledge.
3 - Their misinterpretation of some Quranic verses in a manner that was not intended by Allah. For example they interpret the verses on jihad as referring to “going out for da’wah”. The verses which mentioned the word khuruj (going out) etc. are interpreted by them as meaning going out for da’wah.
4 - They make their system of going out for da’wah an act of worship. So they started to misquote the Quran to support their system which specifies certain numbers of days and months. This system, which they think is based on evidence from Quran, is widespread among them in all countries and environments.
5 - They do some things that go against shari’ah, such as appointing one of them to make du'a for them whilst the group goes out for da’wah, and they think that their success or failure depends on whether or not this man was sincere and his du'a accepted.
6 - Da’if (weak) and mawdu’ (fabricated) ahadeeth are widespread among them, and this is not befitting for those who aim to call people to Allah.
7 - They do not speak of munkarat (evil things), thinking that enjoining what is good is sufficient. Hence we find that they do not speak about evils that are widespread among the people, even though the slogan of this ummah - which they continually repeat - is:
“Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining Al-Ma‘ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do) and forbidding Al-Munkar (polytheism and disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden). And it is they who are the successful” [Aal ‘Imran 3:104 - interpretation of the meaning]
The successful are those who enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, not just those who do only one of the two.
(...)
@@mrlesta You are now making stuff up. Tablighi are not from any particular race.
Yes in those lands where Indians live their elders will be Indians, whereas if you go to France then the elders there is sheikh Younis from Tunis, if you go to other Arab countries like Jordan, Saudi Arabia etc then the elders will be from those backgrounds.
Yes if you meant to say the early elders of tabligh were Indians then ofcourse this movement started from Pak-Hind subcontinent so only natural that their elders will be from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh!
Just like Jamaate Islami founded by Sayyid Mawdudi in the subcontinent and why are all the leaders Pakistani or Indian or bangali!!??? Well yeah you got my answer
@@TheTravelingMullah
They are innovators. Vile Sufi’s
@@grahamgooch7565 ittaqillaha akhi wa tubb ilayhi!!
@@mrlesta Either you're not Muslim or you're being stupid. Tabligh are not at all racist. They are Muslim and if you are Muslim then they are your brother's so treat them like it.
Shamsi why are you saying these things about tabligh jamaat remember you will have to answer to Allah SWT. Sometimes I feel you are deluded! May Allah guide you Aameen
More like may Allāh guide you. Open your eyes my friend your tabligh group has graves in the masjid in India . And the refuge of Allāh is sought.
In Fiji, the asuul of the tableegi jamaat is to make the Muslims practicing Muslims. They will only give dawah to the non Muslims only when all the Muslims are practicing Muslims. In this situation a non believer can claim on the day of judgement that a group of people went past his house to a Muslim but never came to his house to talk about Allah. Now, if they integrate real dawah with what they are doing maybe they will have a better understanding of the other religions point of view.
How about you let tablighi brothers do their work and you work to invite non muslims?
@@fkarmaditrue
❤ Tablighi doesn't follow al Qur'an
@@fkarmadinet banger
Its funny that you dont know anything you talk about. Your talking about it as if uve been in kurooj and experienced it.For you to say its suffism is pure ignorance.If you go or think of something to be wrong your going to listen with ignorance and going to try to prove to yourself that it is wrong. It seems like your teachers have never taught you of humility and humbleness. If you had humility you would never proudly say you are the only one following the sunnah. Or else you would be claiming everyone besides you is misguided and that is not the way of the salaf.
Assalamualaikum, Alhamdulillah ALLAH has given Brother Shamsi lots of knowledge and may ALLAH use him for dawah In Sha Allah, however the statements he is making about Tabligh Jamaat are unfounded and biased,We invite you to spend a few days with us and see what we do and then you will have the complete knowledge of Tabligh Jamaat and In Sha Allah you will retract your comments, wassalaam
@@khalidpadia9561 very true
@@khalidpadia9561 brother khurooj in Tablighi jamaat manner is definitely a innovation and stared just 100 years back... everyone have a problem with khurooj cause u didn't find in the time of prophet saw or next 3 generations going in those kind of khuroojs(3 days,40 days,4 months).
@@usmanans5364 my brother, speaking to you like this,is it an innovation or not,no one says 3 days,or 4 months is a Sunnah or fardh,it is an adopted system that seves as a guideline to a united effort, I've seen myself Alhamdulillah how convicts,drug addicts and people have changed their lives just by going out for 3 days,this going out is more self reformation, please try it out and I promise your level of Iman will improve In Sha Allah
What's this guy talking about? tablgi don't worship graves..
Exactly
True🙏🏻👍🏼
Really have you been to mazars where they ask the dead saints for help and for children
Watch abu Ibrahim husnayn and he shows evidence from the founders of tablighi of all their deviant beliefs and shirk
@@iimiboy bro don't lie according to tabligi jamat don't prostrate to anybody any grave except Allah
So many Butt hurt innovators bashing on Shamsi for pointing flaws into their forefathers belief....
The guy was a sufi and he's explaining you what's the Jamaat creed.
Numbers is not criteria for true islam
I may be wrong but it seems that anyone who doesn't agree with Shams, his group, or the scholars he follows is misguided and he is not alone in that line if thinking.. When I was a new muslim I was confused because before I took my Shahadah the disunity, politics, sects, tribalism, ect was not explained to me, I had to find out myself. Allah swt has his own hykma. No one man knows everything, differences will be there, and disagreements. I love brother Shamsi for the sake of Allah swt and if he feels a group is misguided it is his right to express it. But, his arrogance, laughter, conduct when addressing other groups is not the sunnah of our Nabi. You don't teach people about giving dawah correctly and following sunnah, when you are not following it yourself. Good character and manners matter when addressing serious issues and giving dawah. I don't agree with the way alot of ""Dawah"" is giving at the park, wisdom is needed.
Muhammed ilyes did not sit next to graves soubhanal'Llah such liés!!
May Allah guide brother Shamsi 🤲
How can you say that maulana ilyas worshiping in grave
From Tablighi Jamaat books. An example of a concerning issue that have been found in Tablighi Nisāb / Fazaail-e-Aamaal.
From Fazaail-e-Aamaal (Virtues of Charity): A virtuous man once *sat down near the grave of a generous person and related that he needed some Deenaars (money) to help a beggar. In the night, he saw the man of the grave in his dream*, who directed the virtuous man to go to his house where in a corner lay buried five hundred Deenaars, which he should give it to the beggar. Next morning, the man visited the house of the man in the grave, spoke to the family members and thus, the Deenaars were found. The man told the family members to keep the wealth for they were legal successors of the wealth. But they refused saying that it was shameful for them that *their ancestor could be generous even after his death and they could not be during their life.* The Deenars were thus, given to the beggar but the beggar only took half a Deenar.
*Reference:* Fazaail-e-Aamaal, (Eng. Trans.), Virtues of Charity, Chapter.7, story no.24, p.195-196 (New Edition 1982, Published by Dini Book Depot -Delhi).
There is no clarification, before or after this story that such-and such belief is not true, and that this story is only meant to encourage charity. Instead, what is found is the *following , comment by Moulana Zakariyyah* “The thing to be _noted and considered in the above story is as to who was most generous The deceased or his family or the beggar?_
_In our view, the beggar was most generous as in spite of his needs, he did not take more than half of a Deenar.” [end quote]_
Can a just person, after reading this comment, honestly say that a commoner to whom such stories are read, will only take encouragement for righteous actions from it, and not form a misguided opinion about the ability of the dead righteous to perform righteous acts and benefit the living? *Rather, this story helps formulate the belief, and Moulana Zakariyyah’s comment re-enforce it!*
*The idea that benefits may be received from the grave is the basic premise for grave worship.* And we have seen already the dangers of attachment to graves, and the severe warning by Allah's Messenger (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wassallam) against taking graves as places of worship.
As for the intent of Moulana Zakariyyah, none can argue, after reading his comment, that such stories are not meant to teach a particular Aqeedah, especially since he himself approves, *“The same benefit which was received from the Faqir's physical life will be acquired from his grave.”* _Mashaikh-e-Chist (Eng. Trans.) p.211_
"They came to our masjid" How do you know they're Tablighi without even speaking to them if they left? Lol
he knows them.
@@msben64 How do you know that lol?
@@tsmk6599 lol? Hadana Allah
Regardless of how he knows tabligh jamaat are misguided innovators. They are banned in Saudi Arabia. Innovations are worse than all major sins except shirk.
You just know how to cling on semantics. If he said they came to his Masjid then that means they identified themselves as the Tablighi Jamaat, that's how he knew it was them. But, disingenuous people wouldn't even understand something so clear would do anything to defend their frail mentality.
"You and me is Shirk upon Shirk”
In the English translation of ‘Irshaadul Mulook[1], Zakariya Kandhalwi mentioned in his introduction, a letter of Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi to his Shaykh Imdadullah Al-Makki:
"O my refuge of both worlds! You have requested information about the halat (condition) of this useless one... I have developed a natural dislike for sin and a natural inclination for obedience. This effect is due solely to that relatiotiship (nisbat) which has reached me from the spiritual effulgence of Hadhrat. To say more will be disrespectful. May Allah forgive that I be a liar, for I have written on the instruction of Hadhrat. In reality I am nothing. It is only Your Shadow - only Your existence (i.e. Allah’s existence). What am I? I am nothing. Only He is. You and me are Shirk upon Shirk." [End quote]
So affirming two existences is Shirk for these people, and creation is only the ‘shadow’ of Allah... Astaghfirullah!! Also, Gangohi called Imdadullah “refuge of both worlds,” when only Allah can provide refuge to a person in both worlds, yet these people seek refuge in the creation instead of the Rabb of all that exists. And here Gangohi clearly stated he is a liar, in reference to their hiding their creed of Wahdahtul Wujood in order to preserve themselves from attack!
[1] Page 20, published by Majlisul Ulama of South Africa. This letter is also quoted by Zakariya Kandhalwi in his “Fazail Sadaqat, part 2, chapter 6: Ahadith- The excellence of Tawakkul, after Hadith 10
Shamsi is completely wrong on tablighi jamat, it is tablighi jamat that brought me to hidaya. He does not have a clue about them, if he wants to know what they do and represent and if they follow the true teachings of Islam or not he should go and check rather than see and hear things from the outside then make judgements to people especially youngsters.
Hidayat is given only by Allah
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جزاك الله خيرا ♥️|🤲🏻
This guy shake my head. .....
Tabligh effort showed me the way...... low key no flex they effort goes on and goes forward.... no riya all for allah
Not sufism lool
The 6 points maybe learn them sam your wrong wrong wrong wrong...............spend time and learn brother rather then judge lets unit and compliment each other sufis salafi wahabi deobani tabligh we are all one ummah...... wake up
Shamsi MAY Allah Guide you and me
This guy out here arguing and putting down other religions and thinks he's giving dawah. May Allah guide him. Jamat tabligh is the real dawah not this street dawah. He talks about not counting how many people he converted, yet it is he who is hosting a TH-cam channel and gaining views while critising jamah tabligh. I don't see jamah tabligh making TH-cam channels and camping in speakers corner to debate with people. Jamah tabligh proves everything with action. They are the embodiment of the sunnah and the implement it in thier lives. They spend from their own wealth and money to go in the path of allah. They don't rely on donations like all these half wits do.
alhumdulliah tabligi jamaat work all over tha world / 。...shamshi bro he is not sufi...ur knodge in this topic very liitle .....
Tablighis follow the Sufi order, you are mistaken my friend!
Where do you get this from ? This is not something we find in our history.
@@noormiah2225 Because you don't know the history of Maulana Ilyas and his followers. They follow the Tariqqah of the Sufi orders and declare their Khalifa or Ameer from the descendants of Maulana Ilyas based on the Sufi silsila.
If you don't know, you don't know. Even I didn't knew until I was told and learned about it. I have been a part of Tablighi movement and learned this slowly and gradually. Tablighis don't actually come outright about this, for obvious reasons since they don't want themselves to be associated with the Bidah of many Sufis in the Indian subcontinent. And believe me my brother as I am Indian and live in close proximity with Mewat, the place where this movement first took off during the lifetime of Maulana Ilyas.
Yes bro shamsi is wrong about them
@@kaifhere you are totally 100 percent wrog because iam in tablghi jamat from 2018
I never heard them say u should only follow 6 usool or ur not muslim ! Or saying if u dont go in jamaat then u r not muslim ! Or u should worship grave !! Lot of misconceptions of tableegh jamat !! They say or do to bring muslim in mahol/ surroundings where is easy to learn basics of deen !! U will not know importance of tableeg jamat becoz. Go and see in india, Pakistan y ilyaz shahab came up with this method the person who is in need will understand!
Shamsi brother don't loose your respect
He acting arrogantly. Allah doesn't like these kind of people.
Shamsi has zero knowledge about Tabligh Jamaat. This jamaat work to make a muslim a better muslim.
Shamsi is wrong about tabligh jamat
Why did he mention the Negusy?
alhumdulliah.more then crores peopls good practicing muslim because of tabligi jamaat ....shamshi bro may allah guide uu ...nd protect u to satan trapp.....
Tabligi no good brother, give it up.
1:22 - to Shamsi
Al-Ahzab 33:58
وَٱلَّذِينَ يُؤْذُونَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَٱلْمُؤْمِنَٰتِ بِغَيْرِ مَا ٱكْتَسَبُوا۟ فَقَدِ ٱحْتَمَلُوا۟ بُهْتَٰنًا وَإِثْمًا مُّبِينًا
And those who harm believing men and believing women for other than what they have earned have certainly borne upon themselves a slander and manifest sin.
U have been given wrong info brother
Comments blown the screaming sounds of the speaker may ALLAH guide him to correct path
Saying Quran and Sunnah is the path and free from it from head to toe ..
Tabligui jamaat do not want to talk about tawhiid that IS known
Tawheed is what they talk about most.
Brother. tawheed is the main criteria in tabligh calling people to Allah by following in the footstep of prophet Muhammad s.a.w..... At the end of the day no1 is more knowledgeable then our prophet Muhammad s.a.w... So before we start giving refutation against someone let do some research I think bro shamsi needs to do that... May Allah protect us from dividing this ummah ameen
Tablihg jamaah is the most best work in all over the world imagine without jamaa tabligh
all that glitters is not gold, so is SHAMSI these days!
now what I see about SHMASI, whenever he is asked about any Muslim group doing DAWAH, he labels them as BAATEL!! don't get involved in that group, this group! so, is he the only spoke person of TRUE ISLAM!!?!
KSA has brought FALSE allegation on Tableeghi Jamah regarding worshipping grave which in reality is completely opposite! SAUDI gvt is introducing western culture, enabling free mixing, where is SHAMSI's word against that!?
All the top scholars of our time rejectee tabligh...do u not accept them?
@@NJ-uy9br name them brother!
@@mohammadnahinislam2769 Salih Al Fawzan, Ibn Baaz, Sheikh Muqbil, Al Albani
@@NJ-uy9br N there are several more scholars, the kibar al ulama who have refuted tablighi jamāt severely
Where is your proof Maulana Ilyas used to grave worship. Not a single tabligi scholar says or promotes. Allah will hold you accountable for spreading lies shamsi boy. Be warned
Brother shamsi here I'll contradict with your little knowledge regarding Tableegi Jamaat....Its an authentic Jamaat To whom Authenticity is given By Authentic Ulama of India ...Pakistan .... Bangladesh....Indonesia.... Malaysia etc....If you contradict with Tableegi jamaat you are contradicting With IJMA E UMMAT...then you are contradicting All the Ulamas....Do visit Pakistan and Meet world Renowed Ulama there like MUFTI Taqi Usmani etc have discussion with them i guarantee you will find yourself on wrong way regarding tableeghi Jamaat....
I am a Believer xviioixxii Perhaps YOU will be kind enough to explain the meaning of TABLEEGH...many who do not know, may benefit from your explanation.
We shouldn't get carried away with any misunderstanding.
Thank you..
Too much bidah occurs in the Asian subcontinent. A lot of misguided Imam's teaching wrongfully.
@@ghiaspiracha302 Kindly mail your doubts to DaruliftaaDoeband... insha'Allah you will get Reasoable answer there
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If u read the books of the Deobandis you will find shirk in them. Like the books of one their great scholar Ashraf Ali Thanwi
@@hl8302 Bro you people are not aware about our Ulama ....I have practically observed the Taqwa of our Ulama....If you are in any doubt you can contact any nearby Darul Uloom wallahi Insha Allah your are doubts will be cleared.... Knowledge has very much depth we are being falsely decieved when someone qoute Any Hadith and says look they are doing Shirk they are doing biddah wallahi this not truth ....We are being decieved from the path of our Salafs in the name Of Authentic Hadith without having proper knowledge of that Hadith
Proof for shaykh Zakariya grave worshiping?? Never heard such things, proof please
Very ignorant of him to reject Tassawuff
Modern day tasawuff is upon misguidance akhi.
Break down what is Tassawuff?
Tabligh jamaat follows and BELIEVE the book " fazail e amaal" which has many contradictory beliefs which goes against QUR'AN and SUNNAH and the don't follow QUR'AN and SUNNAH as per UNDERSTANDING of SALAF-US-SALIHEEN ...
May ALLAH TALA guide the people who FOLLOW jamaat e tabligh
U know...very little...do some more research..
So sad tabligi jamah is not jamat of sofiya shamsi lies.
Molana ilyas was a islamic scholar not sofi.
I am from pakistan i see every day.
Always tabligi say don't prostrate and worship to anybody and anything except Allah.😢😢🙏🏻🙏🏻
Shamsi is salafi that's why he heats to tabligi jamat.
واللہ
They are not prostrated to graves.😢
Kindly correct your knowledge.
His grave is in India
Muhammad Ilyas Kandhlawi
DiedJuly 13, 1944 (aged 58-59)
[Delhi ], British India
Sh. Abu Yazeed Qurtubi said that, “I had heard that whoever recites La ilaha illalla 70,000 times he will be freed from the hellfire. Having heard this I completed one “nasab” (meaning 70,000 times La ilaha illalla) for myself and also finished many other “nasabs” as stock for the hereafter. Near to us there used to live a young man about whom it was famous that he is from the people of Kashf and also the matters of Hellfire and Paradise are revealed to him. One time he happened to eat with us when he uttered a scream and began to breath heavily and said that his mother is burning in hell. (Kandalvi writes): Qurtubi said that as I was watching his bewilderment that a thought came to my mind that I should transfer one of my nasab (70,000 times La ilaha illalla) to his mother so that it will also confirm the honesty of the young man. So I transferred my one nasab to his mother. Nobody knew that I had recited this nasab or transferred it to his mother but Allah but the young man said, “Uncle, my mother has been relieved from the fires of hell.” (Kandalvi continues):Qurtubi says that from this incident I benefitted twice. One was the baraka of the 70,000 times recitation and the other was the honesty of the young man.” (Kandalvi further says): This is just one incident.
What do you think about this story? It's in fadha'il a'maal.
Many people go to tabligh tamat. They start growing beard and start following the sunnat of the prophet. Look at you. You are here preaching about islam and our prophet. And don't even have beard yourself. So go back home and research about moulana ilyas. He was not a sufi.
Shamsi brother, you are not right about that. I respect you and watch your videos, but about this one, you need to correct your view.
I love and respect Br. Shamsi but he must read about Molana Ilyas before making an accusation.