@Zwag you stop moving when walking to lane because when you click in the middle of the map you click on an enemy minion. When your minions kill that minion your auto pathing stops because that enemy you were targeting is no more.
This works really well because Heimer gets movement speed when near his turrets so another classic, slow them and speed yourself up tactic. Also if you want to get more plating/get it faster, toss down a turret when you have a cannon minion wave, specifically when the tower is targeting the cannon
Day 4: Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a "Can It Jungle" series? Start at the very first champ alphabetically and play them in the jungle and see if you can make it work. I saw another creator try this but he wasn't informative whatsoever about the runes and build and you really explain why you do certain things. Post one maybe every other day or even every day along with a normal Zwag video!!
As you are a fan of rylais (first item) I could suggest seraphine. Rylais on her is so much fun as her E beat drop will always root u don't need the empowered double cast from passiv. Doesn't matter if support or mid.
3:45 I think it's always done that. If you accidentally click on a minion, and that minion dies,, your champ stops moving because he has no more target. I play with auto attack off, so it may have to do with that.
Back when Liandry's was a tanky item that burned for double damage to slowed targets, I remember rushing liandrys and rylais on heimer was broken as all hell. Insane damage and kiting, and made you tanky too. All you needed was some sustain for mana/hp from runes buffed with perhaps a corrupting potion start and it was unbeatable both mid and top.
I think the stopping thing happens when you click on a minion and it dies, that’s happened to me a few times in the last week or so and always throws me off
/10i main heimer with electrocute. my build usually is liandry's (99% of the times as my mythic), second item rylais and then straight to rabadons. i dont even care if they have mr or not,after getting rabadons its pretty much done. the good thing about rylai's is that makes you dont need zhoynas. many people say that zhonya's is a must on heimer but i disagree, it lowers your damage. i only build it if they have a zed or a fed karthus to dodge their ults. but with rylais they cant even reach you if you just sit inside the bermuda triangle of the turrets. the most fun part of playing heimer is harassing them level 1 with autoattacks that proc electrocute and 9/10 times they will rage in all chat about it
My friend who's basically a Heimer OTP likes to pretend to roam to bot, then just camps the bush behind dragon pit, oneshotting anyone with R+W and at least 2 turrets. According to him this works especially well below up to Platinum
What is actually unexpectedly strong with Heimer basically anywhere, is to go lost chapter and not finish mythic and go straight for shadowflame. With that and sorc shoes you oneshot anyone. Then you go horizon focus, and then you finish the mythic (pick between liandry and crown - you can engage just by standing, going 1v4, dealing massive dmg while staying alive and your team just cleans up) and the damage there is CRAZY.
As a one trick pony heimer that only play 1 or 2 months per year since 2014 I thank u a lot for this tip, if u know more tell me like which runes to play with that build too
This has been a thing since like before ranked was even made. Infact 99.9% of his videos are just click bait of things that have been around since leauge started. He just plays vs idiots and gets fed in his videos.
I just had one final game on Aurelion Sol's old kit, as ADC. Built Ravenous Hydra first as usual - it was stronger than ever, no surprise. Built Runaan's second instead of Quickblades, thinking I'd just farm a bit and get to my 3 item spike - which would also have been stronger than ever. But we ended the game before I could get Quickblades half-built. I was running over the enemy team even before I had it. I will miss you, Aurelion Sol. So, so much. 😢 I am surprised that Zwag didn't give him a proper send-off game as well.
The reason you'll sometimes stop walking back to lane is because the last movement input you gave it was on a minion, and when that minion dies it stops your movement.
Every time I see the “Definitely getting nerfed” text I just grieve in the knowledge that Rito games wont nerf anything until like, three parches from now
I feel the same way this season. they changed something major in how attack move works. it's been a struggle and makes me feel like season 1 all over again trying to learn how to farm and move. I am forever bronze but something FOR SURE was changed, and since I never read patch notes, I leave it to the readers to explain :P
Rylai's has been my first item on Heimer for years... with the speed boost his turrets give him, it's lights out for ganks. Banner of Command was the best item in the game for Heimer solo lane, broke my ELO when they removed it.
I get that hitting 1 rocket is fine to poke, but i prefer risking it all to hit all 5 rockets, your turrets get 20% of their big shot per rocket hit so if you hit all 5 you get the big bang. You should deffo try out Assassin Heimer where you just sit in bushes with 3 turrets and just hit your E into an empowered W. It works best on support with the wards and oracle lens and all but any other role works too, even jungle.
I always love when people play heimerdinger and say "I love making a little triangle with the turrets" I think you mean a venn diagram, cus any 3 points make a triangle.
Everyone's saying that you stop walking when you click on a minion and it dies, but I've also been running into the same issue where I randomly stop walking even when I'm clicking the ground. Thought it could've been my connection, but everything else was running as normal.
to go off what you said about baron. everyone does damage now, tanks out damage solo lanners, sups that can cc and deal damage are better than a enchanter
@Zwag try the same build with GRASP; boneplating, overgrowth, demolish. And secondary ; presence of mind + ... You'll be tanky as hell and burn every MTF down
I was building this in ARAM all the time, not the first time I've seen this destroy people. I was having tanks trying to chase me around 3 turrets and found out it isn't fun.
I love using Donger mid simoly because I'm pretty much ungankable when level 6 because I basically become a one man army of turrets... Just hoping the enemy jungler isn't a freaking Rengar
I play heimerdinger and miss fortune bot. Let’s just say, they can’t move and they can’t dodge miss fortune ult as a result 😂😂😂 me and my friend have made many people tilted with this combo. Miss fortune also gets seryldas grudge so yeah they never move 😂😂😂
Well, I asked elsewhere for a Quickblades Urgot, and finally got it, buuuuut... it was not really the game that took advantage of this build possibilities (in my humble opinion)... So, since Quickblades : - 1) Lowers basic abilities CD by 15% (of their remaining CDS...) for every auto attacks... - 2) You only need 40% crit chances, aka 2 crit items, to get this effect; - 3) Urgot W gives him 3 auto attacks a second (4 at W max lvl, if you can toggle it right); -> you may get a pretty interesting abilities spamming Urgot game... IF YOU DARE!!
I am saddened that this is the build I am gonna see in random drafts for the next three weeks. Since you did this too me, May I please get a udyr crit tigerstance build?
I do have that walking back to lane problem. I always play rengar and every time it happens I go "Rengar!? Why did you stop moving?? And then I aggressively click lane
They should make baron do more damage to you depending on how many enemies are alive/dead (idk which would be better), maybe even add max health damage to baron's attacks when the whole enemy team is alive/dead.
Yeah, this skin is much better than basic heimer but $15 is waste of money on this. This might be different depends on where you live and in what curency you're earning. But it's different story when you're youtuber/streamer. It might or might not increase Zwag's video value. And it's a way to support the game.
I JUST started watching your channel today, and it's one of the only channels I have sat through an ENTIRE game each time. I usually get bored like 5mins in but I enjoy your content a lot! Also.. Amumu in this game was pretty non-existent. Wtf was he doing the whole game? Barely helped top, barely did much bot lane, didn't set-up for Drake and just kinda... Is a sad mummy walking around the Jungle alone. What a strange Jungler.
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Yo never had that stopping in lane problem, except weird camera in URF. Maybe your mouse button is going oversensitive?
any ideas why at 12:07 you didn't get any gold for the plating? Plating was still up, it hadn't run out of time and you clearly hit it. Bug?
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@@bigmac7963 It had 1013 hp left xD
@Zwag you stop moving when walking to lane because when you click in the middle of the map you click on an enemy minion. When your minions kill that minion your auto pathing stops because that enemy you were targeting is no more.
3:43 He clicked on the cannon minion
Oh my god thank you so much that happens to me all the time
Yup that's exactly what it is
vision pings can stop u also
@@prodestroyer8 you can disable that from the settings tho, i was getting annoyed ao much by that until i disabled it :)
15:43
Zwag: Well that was scary. I thought I was dead.
Heim: I concur...
I notice too
I came to the comment section just to see who else caught it 😂
@@alexanderdesocio8081 Same.
15:42 zwag: "well that was scary, I thought I was dead."
heimer: "I concur!"
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Lmao i saw that too😄
LMAO i had to rewatch the video to get that! Nice one 🤣
This works really well because Heimer gets movement speed when near his turrets so another classic, slow them and speed yourself up tactic.
Also if you want to get more plating/get it faster, toss down a turret when you have a cannon minion wave, specifically when the tower is targeting the cannon
Heimer breaking the 4th wall @ 15:41 LOL
Was just about to say the same thing 😂
Day 4:
Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a "Can It Jungle" series? Start at the very first champ alphabetically and play them in the jungle and see if you can make it work. I saw another creator try this but he wasn't informative whatsoever about the runes and build and you really explain why you do certain things. Post one maybe every other day or even every day along with a normal Zwag video!!
Cool idea bro
One of the few ideas that seem interesting. At least it’s not that cocaine velkoz dude
keep posting these and we will keep liking! this is a really good idea (: i hope he sees it
no sorry series don't do well
@@Zwag damn! Just out of curiosity, why don't they do well enough to justify doing them?
15:42 Perfect timing lol
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15:46 anyone else notice how zwag says “well that was scary I thought I was dead” and heimer replies “I concur” or was it just me
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You weren't the only one :)
Yeah we noticed because you and other 50 people posted the same comment 🥱
@@wooshbait36 I never read comments I just post and hope😂
@@ryanbrown5548 hope for likes?
As you are a fan of rylais (first item) I could suggest seraphine.
Rylais on her is so much fun as her E beat drop will always root u don't need the empowered double cast from passiv.
Doesn't matter if support or mid.
I haven't played league in years, but can still say I'm addicted to (your) gameplay. Keep up the great content!
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“Did Zwag get the first 6 CS?”
No, he missed 2 caster minions
Lose Streak: 1
What was highest win streak?
@@unlikealiens803 i think 7 and lose streak like 11
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Day 283 of writing here which day it is
Legend Still going Strong
3:45 I think it's always done that. If you accidentally click on a minion, and that minion dies,, your champ stops moving because he has no more target. I play with auto attack off, so it may have to do with that.
15:43 lol donger is listening
3:45 yeah same, its so annoying you think youre going back to lane but sudently youre in spawn
Haven't played league in 7 years or so. Love these videos.
That secretive kill in the bush right before they surrendered was sweet. The nerf is not stopping Heimer from being a threat.
Gone are the days where baron was a daunting task that the whole team needed to be there for to even stand a chance of taking it down
The Obama years, literally lol
25:08 is Baron too weak or are the champions too powercreeped? Or there is just too much damage in the game in general?
Back when Liandry's was a tanky item that burned for double damage to slowed targets, I remember rushing liandrys and rylais on heimer was broken as all hell. Insane damage and kiting, and made you tanky too. All you needed was some sustain for mana/hp from runes buffed with perhaps a corrupting potion start and it was unbeatable both mid and top.
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really funny, thanks
I think the stopping thing happens when you click on a minion and it dies, that’s happened to me a few times in the last week or so and always throws me off
/10i main heimer with electrocute. my build usually is liandry's (99% of the times as my mythic), second item rylais and then straight to rabadons. i dont even care if they have mr or not,after getting rabadons its pretty much done. the good thing about rylai's is that makes you dont need zhoynas. many people say that zhonya's is a must on heimer but i disagree, it lowers your damage. i only build it if they have a zed or a fed karthus to dodge their ults. but with rylais they cant even reach you if you just sit inside the bermuda triangle of the turrets.
the most fun part of playing heimer is harassing them level 1 with autoattacks that proc electrocute and 9/10 times they will rage in all chat about it
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My friend who's basically a Heimer OTP likes to pretend to roam to bot, then just camps the bush behind dragon pit, oneshotting anyone with R+W and at least 2 turrets.
According to him this works especially well below up to Platinum
I might try that today to see if I can get some kills.
What is actually unexpectedly strong with Heimer basically anywhere, is to go lost chapter and not finish mythic and go straight for shadowflame. With that and sorc shoes you oneshot anyone. Then you go horizon focus, and then you finish the mythic (pick between liandry and crown - you can engage just by standing, going 1v4, dealing massive dmg while staying alive and your team just cleans up) and the damage there is CRAZY.
As a one trick pony heimer that only play 1 or 2 months per year since 2014 I thank u a lot for this tip, if u know more tell me like which runes to play with that build too
I can't belive Zwag used flash in min. 4. The end is near.
"I'd rather BEE under these turrets than the big turret"
hey zwag was that mario galaxy music playing in the background of this video?
Pretty sure Hermi supports have been doing this for the past year, so doubt it will be nerfed anytime soon. Nice video tho!
This has been a thing since like before ranked was even made. Infact 99.9% of his videos are just click bait of things that have been around since leauge started. He just plays vs idiots and gets fed in his videos.
I just had one final game on Aurelion Sol's old kit, as ADC. Built Ravenous Hydra first as usual - it was stronger than ever, no surprise. Built Runaan's second instead of Quickblades, thinking I'd just farm a bit and get to my 3 item spike - which would also have been stronger than ever. But we ended the game before I could get Quickblades half-built. I was running over the enemy team even before I had it. I will miss you, Aurelion Sol. So, so much. 😢
I am surprised that Zwag didn't give him a proper send-off game as well.
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Does electrocute proc on turret shots?
Heimerdinger my sweet boy ❤ Thank you for making that video Mr Zwag!
The reason you'll sometimes stop walking back to lane is because the last movement input you gave it was on a minion, and when that minion dies it stops your movement.
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Very nice vid, Zwag!
Every time I see the “Definitely getting nerfed” text I just grieve in the knowledge that Rito games wont nerf anything until like, three parches from now
Awesome video. Heimerdinger is one of my favorite characters.
The ending to this was hilarious: Trist ambush and your comment about Amumu
That flash to dodge lux E and get the rockets off to kill her was awesome.
Have you played Lux with tank items?
What’s the song playing at the beginning of the video?
I absolutely love watching you play heimer
I feel the same way this season. they changed something major in how attack move works. it's been a struggle and makes me feel like season 1 all over again trying to learn how to farm and move. I am forever bronze but something FOR SURE was changed, and since I never read patch notes, I leave it to the readers to explain :P
its so funny cause as far as everything heims are supposed to do zwag isn't doing, but his fundamentals are so good that he still slapping them
I miss old Heimer. At least the first version of visual reworked Heimer. The quicker passive charge on turrets were perfect
Rylai's has been my first item on Heimer for years... with the speed boost his turrets give him, it's lights out for ganks. Banner of Command was the best item in the game for Heimer solo lane, broke my ELO when they removed it.
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I get that hitting 1 rocket is fine to poke, but i prefer risking it all to hit all 5 rockets, your turrets get 20% of their big shot per rocket hit so if you hit all 5 you get the big bang.
You should deffo try out Assassin Heimer where you just sit in bushes with 3 turrets and just hit your E into an empowered W. It works best on support with the wards and oracle lens and all but any other role works too, even jungle.
Zwag there is a new skin for xerath!!! Do you like it?
I always love when people play heimerdinger and say "I love making a little triangle with the turrets" I think you mean a venn diagram, cus any 3 points make a triangle.
Zwag the problem with the sudden stop, i have it at least 3 months
That skin is adorable. I look forward to seeing future Heimerstinger videos.
Everyone's saying that you stop walking when you click on a minion and it dies, but I've also been running into the same issue where I randomly stop walking even when I'm clicking the ground. Thought it could've been my connection, but everything else was running as normal.
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Rylai first on Malazhar is also amazing. 👌 even more so in top lane as you have a longer lane to chase, and spacing is ususo essential there.
My char did that just stopped when I right clicked near the turret, ground not minion, and ashe who I was playing stopped right outside of base.
to go off what you said about baron. everyone does damage now, tanks out damage solo lanners, sups that can cc and deal damage are better than a enchanter
3:54 i have the same problem for half of year , this is so annoying
@Zwag try the same build with GRASP; boneplating, overgrowth, demolish. And secondary ; presence of mind + ... You'll be tanky as hell and burn every MTF down
Instantly got the like when you said better like the vid cause i bought this skin just for the vid lmao.Great content as always brotha keep it coming.
ive had the issue of the random stopping for a long time
I actually did have that problem in a game I played today, I was shaco and looking around the map while pathing to blue shaco just stopped walking
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15:43
zwag: actually that was scary I thought I was dead
Heimer: I concur
genius content as usual. Thank you !!
I usually buy the Tear as a starter item instead of the ring, just for the mana pool.
what is the song in the background?
I was building this in ARAM all the time, not the first time I've seen this destroy people. I was having tanks trying to chase me around 3 turrets and found out it isn't fun.
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Well yeah, 3 tanks is not fun. They can all just build a shit tonne of MR and you are fucked 😂
Zwag "I'm live right now on twitch"
TH-cam "let's just not even give him the noti for this video until 20 hours later"
I'd recognize that background music anywhere, that's the theme from Super Mario Galaxy!
would love to see you try hard a Swain game
I love using Donger mid simoly because I'm pretty much ungankable when level 6 because I basically become a one man army of turrets... Just hoping the enemy jungler isn't a freaking Rengar
Wouldn't this also work on Zyra plants?
Yes
Rylai's on heimer and brand support is still one of the most satisfying things to play
I play heimerdinger and miss fortune bot. Let’s just say, they can’t move and they can’t dodge miss fortune ult as a result 😂😂😂 me and my friend have made many people tilted with this combo. Miss fortune also gets seryldas grudge so yeah they never move 😂😂😂
Well, I asked elsewhere for a Quickblades Urgot, and finally got it, buuuuut... it was not really the game that took advantage of this build possibilities (in my humble opinion)...
So, since Quickblades :
- 1) Lowers basic abilities CD by 15% (of their remaining CDS...) for every auto attacks...
- 2) You only need 40% crit chances, aka 2 crit items, to get this effect;
- 3) Urgot W gives him 3 auto attacks a second (4 at W max lvl, if you can toggle it right);
-> you may get a pretty interesting abilities spamming Urgot game... IF YOU DARE!!
I am saddened that this is the build I am gonna see in random drafts for the next three weeks. Since you did this too me, May I please get a udyr crit tigerstance build?
Could you maybe try quickblades on samira? I dont know if its good, but id like to see it
I do have that walking back to lane problem. I always play rengar and every time it happens I go "Rengar!? Why did you stop moving?? And then I aggressively click lane
They should make baron do more damage to you depending on how many enemies are alive/dead (idk which would be better), maybe even add max health damage to baron's attacks when the whole enemy team is alive/dead.
Thanks for the video!
This ain't new. Just new to u Zwag. Been seeing and doing it for years. Rylais op
Wait what’s that green shield amumu has around 22 minutes?
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This is the same build I use for him in aram. Don't always get high kda or dmg meter but almost always win super easy.
After so many games where I hear Zwag say "Rylais is a bait item, never buy it!", then he starts talking about how buffed it is!
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Yeah, this skin is much better than basic heimer but $15 is waste of money on this. This might be different depends on where you live and in what curency you're earning. But it's different story when you're youtuber/streamer. It might or might not increase Zwag's video value. And it's a way to support the game.
7:14 corner turrets!
So I have a question. Would a bloodthirster work with turrets? If so that would be broken af lol
Zwag is so good the champs are talking to him.
@zwag can you make a video on how Aphelios works. cause that champ is the most confusing one to understand in the game
Yeah he is confusing, Kalista and aphelios is who I avoid. I play literally every other adc and have done okay.
Nice video dude
Could you try Navori Quickblades on a full crit Kled ? They make him do so much damage and keep his W up almost all the time.
Rylais malz and heimer were how I made my original run to plat 2 yeeeeeeeears ago
Can we get a rumble game with it maybe?
You got a like, for the skin :P
I'm so surprised I knew the walking to lane thing and zwag didn't :O I'm grandmaster now
zwag just got his voice buffed
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Zyra heim bot lane sounds like fun.
ugh, makes me miss how good old heimer used to be
I enjoyed this video, and the bee-themed skin was very charming. 🐝
Did he produce a natural "UwU" at 18:06?! Bwahaha!
I JUST started watching your channel today, and it's one of the only channels I have sat through an ENTIRE game each time. I usually get bored like 5mins in but I enjoy your content a lot!
Also.. Amumu in this game was pretty non-existent. Wtf was he doing the whole game? Barely helped top, barely did much bot lane, didn't set-up for Drake and just kinda... Is a sad mummy walking around the Jungle alone. What a strange Jungler.
Yeah... I guess, Rito will nerf the slow on Rylais for ranged champs at some point.
Good video. Nice gameplay
I have been playing this heim build more and more lately I discovered it myself in ranked its actually broken!!
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