I believe rigidity largely comes from the overall mass of the machine. I think it could be improved further by filling the column with epoxy granite, as well as the hollow frame with sand or similar. Perhaps even adding a heavy block into the frame base.
Awesome build. Really impressed with the end result. I was worried about a axis rigidity but it seems to machine well. Thanks for taking he time to share.
@@SeabassEngineering I might have missed it, but did you fill your frame at all? Are you considering epoxy granite? It would probably help with surface finish quite a lot.
Would you mind saying that you have the design maintained in CAD? Do you have a site where folks may download the STEP files along with any other supportive data to help follow this build? Thanks in advance and for your time sharing this project. Such a great built mill by using conventional MFG processes to get the job done!
This is a painstaking process of torquing the column bolts down, measuring out of alignment amount along the z travel using a machine alignment square and dial test indicator and then shimming the approximate amount and repeating. This is easier if you always torque the bolts to the same value every time.
you like an artist, engineer and craftsman al in one. Really nice work and thanks for sharing! I wanne build my own cnc to, but smaller. I’m curious, I guess you’re using aluminum plate material underneath the linear guides, can you tell me what thickness plate material and what type of aluminum (6082, 7075..)? And is the aluminum plate material flattened?
Very nice work! It sure helps when you have a great selection of tools. I don’t think I’ve seen such nice holes made with a hole saw. The enclosure is really clean. That’s a great idea using the extruded standards andI love the door hinge. How much time did you invest in the project? 😊
No plans to release diagrams/drawings for the build so we can make one too? It would be quite much easier to have plans + videos since it's exactly the problem i'm facing - to make a mill you need a mill.
Splendid presentation, and your skills are impressive. Thank you, for creating and sharing this. May I ask - did you perhaps track your time/costs to create this? I love your design, and.. I am thinking I want to build one too. In fact I am wondering whether it might be worthwhile to produce something like this in my workshop to sell. ? I'm actually a software-designer and am wondering whether I could enhance the control aspects with a bit of AI. Thank you, your work is inspiring.
Did you have any problems mounting the z axis plate directly to the steel box section? Box section isn't very flat so did it distort the aluminium plate at all?
To my surprise after hand filing the start of the radius of the box section (you can just make out where i've done this in the video) the z axis plate actually sits pretty flat. It didn't rock when sat on loosely and didn't seem to distort when torqued up. The biggest issue was with the z carriage alignment, as that had moved all over with welding. Without access to a mill this needed careful shimming and other than aligning the column was one of the most difficult parts of the entire build. Thanks for watching.
I really like your no compromises approach to DIY...I get so sick of everyone doing the "cheap and easy" approach on 95% of DIY tools. That being said, how do you feel about the inexpensive MATTM steppers? Are you using HIWIN linear guides or the chinese knockoffs that I am reading about that seem to be of good quality? Is that also one of the chinese spindles? I was looking at a nice 2.2kw USA made air cooled type but wow its expensive for ATC.
Yeah I know what you mean, people doing "how to make a CNC using twigs and tree bark or other such nonsense! The rails are Chinese and so is the spindle. To be honest the one thing I really would like is an ATC spindle. That would make it so much better. The closed loop steppers are great too in my opinion. Thanks for watching btw
Impressive build, I really liked it. A couple questions: Why did you opt to make a small table? I was expecting you to put the rails on the underside of the table and the bearing blocks supporting it so you could have a longer table. My other question: Now that you built it, what would you do differently? Thanks for the video, pretty nice. (I appreciate that it didn't have loud background music, and that I could hear what was happening.)
Thanks for watching. You're not the first to point that out about the table. I actually considered this after someone else commented the same and after a lot of consideration decided to do it this way mainly because the longer table would have meant a much bigger enclosure with no real gain for my purpose. If I were to do it again I'd probably overkill the rails and ball screws and I'dmake the frame heavier somehow. I may still do this. E.g. fill the frame with sand and potentially put a big resin block in the bottom to stop some of the harmonics.
Having a small table on a long X axis saddle is how, say, a Haas VF series is setup; while a long table on a short saddle is how their lighter duty Toolroom machines are setup. From what I understand its a tradeoff in capacity/versatiliy vs performance. Smaller table ends up more rigid and less mass which is easier to move around accurately AND quickly.
Ok Im not thru the whole video…. But I have to say as a fabricator myself, the support table is impressive asf just all by itself. Now about that very very expensive table with the X and Y axis…. Lovely job. Were ya nervous when ya started. You know, not wanting to make a tiny mistake. I didn’t see any so I’m commenting about that also. I will be commenting throughout the build. I’m one critical bastard too! How much did ya need to shim when you showed the small ammount of tilt to the spindle bridge. (Didnt look like much)(prolly only reason it is askew is because I was typing while ya welded it🤣) also how can I avoid that? Did you have a set of plans or do ya work with a similar machine and just memory wing it? I realize all this was a year ago, how well is it holding up? Have you had to change anything? Overall, I think ya did an excellent job on it. Thanks for sharing. Oh, I gave ya a passing grade toooooo! 😂🤣
I used a precision square to "rough in" the column square while welding. I found the trick was to make small weld initially, a few large tacks and then used a heavy duty ratchet strap to pull it back square before welding the other side, then go back to fully weld it. It's impossible to keep it from moving while welding. I would say this is probably the one part of the build that could have really done with being squared up on a milling machine but I wanted to see if it was possible to finish the project without any machining.
It will cut steel with sensible cuts and the right feeds and tooling but I've found minimum rpm that has any usable torque to be around 8k with this spindle.
Hey mate congrats on a great build. I am in the process of building a Vertical Machine Centre as well. Could you tell me what stepper motors and what diameter ball screws did you use. Looks like a 1” ball screw in the videos. The linear slides, is that the 20mm wide ones ? Cheers
Every once in a while i come across a video that proves to me that human spirit and engineering know no boundaries. Yours is one of them.
Hobgoblin product placement shows that you are a man of substance!
Well this is my new favourite DIY CNC mill project!
The DMM_Wales t-shirt requires credit alone
That is just spectacular.
This is inspiring and was a pleasure to watch.
Great work.
Thank you very much!
Amazed with sound of cutting and apparent rigidity on something built with a drill press and bolts.
I believe rigidity largely comes from the overall mass of the machine. I think it could be improved further by filling the column with epoxy granite, as well as the hollow frame with sand or similar. Perhaps even adding a heavy block into the frame base.
It's rare that I watch such a long video, but this one is worth every second👌thanks for the Show 🤘👌🤘
Amazing! That was some build, you are gifted.
Thank you!
You truly are a man of many talents and skills!
Mit den Mitteln die du hattest ist das ein Hammer Job! Da zieh ich meinen Hut! Sehr gut gemacht!!!
What a thing of BEAUTY!
Thank you
Awesome build. Really impressed with the end result. I was worried about a axis rigidity but it seems to machine well. Thanks for taking he time to share.
Glad you liked it!
Doesn’t take as much rigidity as people think. For a home model you dont worry about throughput.
So what id it takes twice as long to machine 👉right👈
You got my sub bro awesome work especially when I seen the mini pickup with what looks like a busa in the rear awesome
Thanks for the sub! It's actually a pug engine but in the racing I do there are other classes that use twin busas. See my other vid for engine build.
outstanding, bloody love it - great minimalist presentation as well, thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching
I am impressed with your build skills.
Wow, what a build. A beautiful design, perfectly executed.
Thank you very much!
You should give a workshop class - would sign in!
Great job... appreciate the effort to document the process.
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Edit: that tig job on the chip plate was great!
That's what I call one-man-band! Brilliant!
Nice! I'm looking forward to seeing some steel get cut!
Me too... I'll video it when I cut some and upload it
@@SeabassEngineering I might have missed it, but did you fill your frame at all? Are you considering epoxy granite? It would probably help with surface finish quite a lot.
at 34:08, the plastic junction box, where'd you get that? Great build!
I think it was from eBay to be honest. It's just a 100x100x50 IP55 junction box. Commonly used in UK electrical systems.
Good video, I've built two CNCs but this video is inspirational to build a bit stronger. Lovely engineering
Cool, thanks for watching
Highly intelligent thinking, diligent work and achievement man 👌
excellent step by step build, and what a cnc machine you ended up with. just great. well done.
Thank you very much!
Very nice work. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Great build, next get a chinese ATC spindle, the ability to change tools without having to change collets and re measure is a game changer.
Amazing build! 👍
Great build! Would love to see more of that mini too, do you have a build video of that?
Not the car, but there is a build video of the engine.
Ha ha using your drill press as a clamp, love it.
Haha. You gotta use what you have to get the job done
That was a really great video to watch. Well done. Always good to see a completed project.
Excellent work!
Would be great if you could make a video about parts order prices and detailed manufacturing steps
Okeey it's over ... that's pretty impressive build 👏👏
... now lathe 😃
Very interesting , nice and very precisive task. Very well done.
Thank you!
God job, support from indonesia 😂❤❤👍👍
@29:30 Revealing his secret Identity as Superman.
0:05 what song is this?
Would you mind saying that you have the design maintained in CAD? Do you have a site where folks may download the STEP files along with any other supportive data to help follow this build? Thanks in advance and for your time sharing this project. Such a great built mill by using conventional MFG processes to get the job done!
No, sorry
Parabéns. Você é inspiração. Falo do Brasil.
CONGRATULATIONS FOR THIS GREAT JOB !!!!
Thank you so much 😀
great job! could you please explain the shimming process of the z ?
This is a painstaking process of torquing the column bolts down, measuring out of alignment amount along the z travel using a machine alignment square and dial test indicator and then shimming the approximate amount and repeating. This is easier if you always torque the bolts to the same value every time.
Can u plz upload a video about all the elecronics, design software, tool path control software to final result explanation.? Inspirational one.!
Check my other videos for one specific to building the electronics which has a little more detail
Amazing work, proud for all engineers with deaf-muteness !
lol
Selamlar. 100x100 ölçülerinde ahşap oyacak CNC de T10 16mm pu çelik destekli zamanlama kayısı kullanmayı düşünüyorum. Boşluğu alındığında esneme v.s. yapip yatay eksende kaçırma yapar mı ?
Are you willing to share your 3d plans ? This is a great build
Wow, this is cool! Great job!
Thank you! Cheers!
Very nice project. 👍🏼👍🏼
What is the NM of the stepper motor?
Great example of machine making. Getting x,y and z axis all true must have been a beast. How is the accuracy?
could you show a parts list and a breakdown of the sizes and parts used. thanks
you like an artist, engineer and craftsman al in one. Really nice work and thanks for sharing! I wanne build my own cnc to, but smaller. I’m curious, I guess you’re using aluminum plate material underneath the linear guides, can you tell me what thickness plate material and what type of aluminum (6082, 7075..)? And is the aluminum plate material flattened?
That is a really nice build.
Cool a bi metall sandwich. Move it in the 0.01 or 0.001 on temperatur?
Very nice work! It sure helps when you have a great selection of tools. I don’t think I’ve seen such nice holes made with a hole saw. The enclosure is really clean. That’s a great idea using the extruded standards andI love the door hinge. How much time did you invest in the project? 😊
No plans to release diagrams/drawings for the build so we can make one too? It would be quite much easier to have plans + videos since it's exactly the problem i'm facing - to make a mill you need a mill.
Splendid presentation, and your skills are impressive. Thank you, for creating and sharing this. May I ask - did you perhaps track your time/costs to create this? I love your design, and.. I am thinking I want to build one too. In fact I am wondering whether it might be worthwhile to produce something like this in my workshop to sell. ? I'm actually a software-designer and am wondering whether I could enhance the control aspects with a bit of AI.
Thank you, your work is inspiring.
Dang this is a great built. How accurate are the cuts? Within .001 or less? thx
Nice job there. If you consider making more for commercialization , I wish to come and join you.
Very nice build, great video!
do you have a schematic on this build i would like to build the same sir
I would recommend the schematic by CNCdrive, who supply the axbb-e controller I used.
Amazing, Good Job!
Hi, i didn't finish watching yet, but how much would you say is the material cost to build it?
total machine cost approx £3k
Wow, that's super cheap for such a great machine. Very impressive
AMAZING SKILLS
AMAZING JOB
great work! how did it do with steel?
Bravo 👏👏👏👏👏👏 What are you going to do for a encore?
Really impressive build. Any willingness to ballpark estimate the material costs and time spent?
Can I please have the plans?
Отличная работа. Станок получился хороший.
Software for desktop controller is your job ?
Did you have any problems mounting the z axis plate directly to the steel box section? Box section isn't very flat so did it distort the aluminium plate at all?
To my surprise after hand filing the start of the radius of the box section (you can just make out where i've done this in the video) the z axis plate actually sits pretty flat. It didn't rock when sat on loosely and didn't seem to distort when torqued up. The biggest issue was with the z carriage alignment, as that had moved all over with welding. Without access to a mill this needed careful shimming and other than aligning the column was one of the most difficult parts of the entire build. Thanks for watching.
Nice job, nice machine, congra bro !
This is nice man. P/s: 18:20 Royal Blood!
Very nice job mate ,
Thanks
excellent job
What are the Dimensions of the Aluminum plates you used?
what kind of drill press is that?
It's a Meddings Ivybridge 3 phase drill press converted to single phase with a VFD. A great machine.
Dang bro. Save some tail for the rest of. Haha seriously incredible build!!
lol
Nice Job 😮
I really like your no compromises approach to DIY...I get so sick of everyone doing the "cheap and easy" approach on 95% of DIY tools. That being said, how do you feel about the inexpensive MATTM steppers? Are you using HIWIN linear guides or the chinese knockoffs that I am reading about that seem to be of good quality? Is that also one of the chinese spindles? I was looking at a nice 2.2kw USA made air cooled type but wow its expensive for ATC.
Yeah I know what you mean, people doing "how to make a CNC using twigs and tree bark or other such nonsense! The rails are Chinese and so is the spindle. To be honest the one thing I really would like is an ATC spindle. That would make it so much better. The closed loop steppers are great too in my opinion. Thanks for watching btw
Great job....what's software you're using in this cnc?
It's called UCCNC which is the software provided for use with the axbb-e motion controller by CNCdrive.com
Nice work!
Impressive build, I really liked it. A couple questions: Why did you opt to make a small table? I was expecting you to put the rails on the underside of the table and the bearing blocks supporting it so you could have a longer table. My other question: Now that you built it, what would you do differently?
Thanks for the video, pretty nice. (I appreciate that it didn't have loud background music, and that I could hear what was happening.)
Thanks for watching. You're not the first to point that out about the table. I actually considered this after someone else commented the same and after a lot of consideration decided to do it this way mainly because the longer table would have meant a much bigger enclosure with no real gain for my purpose. If I were to do it again I'd probably overkill the rails and ball screws and I'dmake the frame heavier somehow. I may still do this. E.g. fill the frame with sand and potentially put a big resin block in the bottom to stop some of the harmonics.
Having a small table on a long X axis saddle is how, say, a Haas VF series is setup; while a long table on a short saddle is how their lighter duty Toolroom machines are setup. From what I understand its a tradeoff in capacity/versatiliy vs performance. Smaller table ends up more rigid and less mass which is easier to move around accurately AND quickly.
@@scottwatrous great info thanks for replying
@@SeabassEngineering have you looked into the epoxy granite?
Beautiful work 💪
Thank you so much 😀
Nice build! And only for 3.5k! great work
Thanks!
Nice build!
Thanks!
Can you help me to convert my milling machine into CNC please
Ok Im not thru the whole video…. But I have to say as a fabricator myself, the support table is impressive asf just all by itself. Now about that very very expensive table with the X and Y axis…. Lovely job. Were ya nervous when ya started. You know, not wanting to make a tiny mistake. I didn’t see any so I’m commenting about that also. I will be commenting throughout the build. I’m one critical bastard too!
How much did ya need to shim when you showed the small ammount of tilt to the spindle bridge. (Didnt look like much)(prolly only reason it is askew is because I was typing while ya welded it🤣) also how can I avoid that? Did you have a set of plans or do ya work with a similar machine and just memory wing it? I realize all this was a year ago, how well is it holding up? Have you had to change anything?
Overall, I think ya did an excellent job on it. Thanks for sharing.
Oh, I gave ya a passing grade toooooo! 😂🤣
I used a precision square to "rough in" the column square while welding. I found the trick was to make small weld initially, a few large tacks and then used a heavy duty ratchet strap to pull it back square before welding the other side, then go back to fully weld it. It's impossible to keep it from moving while welding. I would say this is probably the one part of the build that could have really done with being squared up on a milling machine but I wanted to see if it was possible to finish the project without any machining.
What spindle u use ? suggest me a spindle for metal milling
It's a Chinese water cooled 3KW ER20 spindle. 24,000 rpm.
Is that 3kw spindle capable of cutting steel at low rpm? 5000rpm
It will cut steel with sensible cuts and the right feeds and tooling but I've found minimum rpm that has any usable torque to be around 8k with this spindle.
Awesome! What's the maximum feed you're able to set?
Thanks. 3000mm/min is as high as I've tried but I suspect they will go faster.
Trés bon travail merci.
hell yes. HELL! YES! this is what it means to be alive.
I am concerned about chipping in the energy chain, as it can gauge the wires. Have you thought of a way to negate this?
Yes it is a concern, I will need to find a way to prevent this especially if i start to cut steel.
@@SeabassEngineering really like your setup, how much did it approximately cost?
@@ChristianDybdahlXTR somewhere around 3.5k all in. I was buying it bit by bit for over a year. So I don't know exactly
Did you have any project?
Good job!!
Hey mate congrats on a great build. I am in the process of building a Vertical Machine Centre as well. Could you tell me what stepper motors and what diameter ball screws did you use. Looks like a 1” ball screw in the videos. The linear slides, is that the 20mm wide ones ?
Cheers
NEMA34 short body version. ball screws and rails are all 20mm
This is amazing and you can tell you put a lot of heart and work into it!
Do you mind saying about how much it ran cost wise for all the parts?
v good job
carry on
Great project! But I propose to make a guide line for the axis cover so it won't pop up that way
35:32 aaah, i see you're a man of culture (the wiha screwdriver)
Amazing work :D What was the final cost?