I recommend to check his other works. There is some nice stuff especially if u want to know the story of Daneel. The Caves of Steel and its 2 sequel is just fantastic. 👏
Good to see new readers still enjoying 'Foundation' (haven't re-read it in decades partly because frankly, i'm slightly scared to - bit worried that the "of its time" stuff will grate too much now). But back in the day it was _highly_ formative on my sci-fi journey. Likewise, his robot stories.
Foundation was based on Gibbon, E. The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (1782). They were originally 8 short stories written during the 40s. 4x short stories + 1 additional story = Foundation, 2x short stories = Foundation and Empire, 2x short stories = Second Foundation.
At 1:35 you ask, "What's the word I want there?" The word is *lacuna* . The word's origins are anatomical, but it is much more often used to reference something "missing" from the experiences (including cultural touch points) that one would normally be expected to have.
I love these books, they were considered "must read" sci-fi back in the 70s and 80s. Today, sadly, not so much. But wait, there's more! Decades later Asimov extended the Foundation books and linked them to his Robot novels and short stories. I found all of those to be wonderful as well.
Excellent video for this new year 🤣 sometimes, when something is old and established people look over it, but this is still some truly thought proving work by Asimov, who can bend towards the dry side 😜👍
I liked the video, in my opinion the best book of his series about the Foundation, is not one of the three main books: but the Foundation's Edge. There is this page, where he describes the first contact with a new space ship handling technology. Absolutely genius. That is cinema, that will never be in the Apple's Series. I recommend you to read all the seven books. Trully a masterpiece.
_I recommend you to read all the seven books_ I would agree, but I've often wondered about something. *TLDR: Should the books be read in the order of the narrative or the order of publication?* You see, I'm old enough that the only way I had to read these books was in their order of publication. Only the original trilogy existed when I was first reading Asimov in the early '70s, and then of course I eagerly ate up Foundation's Edge, which _is_ excellent. Then of course Foundation and Earth, where we truly see the link with the robot series made quite explicit. Up to this point, as you know, the books' publication order has matched the chronological narrative of the series. But then we get _Prelude_ and _Forward_ , which of course are prequels. I have more to say on this, but I'm curious about your opinion.
Easily one of my favorite series ever. I just re-read it last summer and I think it holds up well, however much "of its time" it is. I would like to see a proper adaptation of the series (I'm no purist, but the Foundation Apple series is way off the mark) as well as a series based on the stories from I, Robot--- don't even get me started on the movie with the name arbitrarily slapped onto it. With all these connected universes in media now, I say get a competent team to give us a proper Asimoviverse!
I read all of Asimov’s earlier books after I read the Prelude to Foundation, which was the first book I came across when it came out. Then I ploughed through the Foundation Trilogy. Those early books, like Pebble in the Sky, Currents of Space, provide some grounding for the Foundation set. Worth tracking them down or looking for Kindle versions.
I read I Robot and The Foundation (book 1) back to back in December. Loved I Robot which had a similar structure and style to Foundation in the sense that it was a collection of short stories centered around one subject. I enjoyed The Foundation but found my engagement running out by the time I got to the last story. Overall, I was surprised by how accessible Asimov’s writing was.
Love this channel!! Some very nice choices for book reading. Since you have a love of science fiction have you ever read any of Neil Asher's books? And if so could you do some reviews on his books?
I wanted to read these books before watching the well received FOUNDATION tv show. But then I got a free month of AppleTV and I thought, well … I could watch 1 or 2 episodes to see where’s it goes… and binge watched all two seasons in no time. Now I‘m in a tough spot: I love the TV show, but I know it’s VERY different from the books. And now I‘m not sure if I should read the books, because I fear they might seem even more dated after watching the show. Maybe someone here can help me out 😉
@ That’s normally the way I go… reading the books before watching the movie. But I was in the mood for a good Scifi show, and it was probably the best thing I watched since the Expanse series. From what I read, fans of the books don’t like the show, and that irritates me, since the show is superb. The best explanation I found was: see it as a very creative remix, take the imagery, and read the books with those images in mind. I think that’s what I will do. Thanks for your answer.
You failed to make the point that all of Hari Seldon's predictions are made possible by a new, sophisticated mathematics called "psychohistory" that can predict future sociological trends on a macro (even galactic) scale. To leave this out could lead people to believe it's coming from some kind of mystical guru character that only believes he can predict the future, which is not the case in the books. I also enjoyed how immensely epic the timescales are that the books lead you through.
There's the original trilogy plus 2 more that continue the story. The first 3 are up there with Tolkien. The last 2...meh. More like The Silmarillion in terms of unmet expectations. Although you do eventually find out the one source and control of all the stuff that no one else can explain.
The sad truth is that Asimovs would probably be remembered by his worst books (foundation). The 3 Robot novels, The Gods Themselves and especially (his best) End of Eternity are all better
I have my Dad's old trilogy in the cardboard box. I liked parts of it but Asimov went into too much detail of the science at times making it read like a hi fi amplifier with vacuum tubes manual. But you can see how Dune was in response to this with the other side winning. Have you read Herbert's Desrination Void trilogy? It also is a lot like Foundation but a lot less hard science and I enjoyed them more.
I’m older than you, SF is my favourite genre by a mile, … and I haven’t read “Foundation” or indeed any Asimov that I can recall - I did read tons of Heinlein and the like as a child, but I have no memory of Asimov despite him being a favourite of my mother’s, where my love of SF originates. In fact, I haven’t read any Herbert either, i.e. “Dune”. I know! 😱 I do of course have a full set of both of these series sat on my shelf nowadays, but so many books, you know? 🥹 I actually swooped on the “Foundation” based on The Secret Sauce of Storycraft’s review, which highly rated the subsequent books as I recall 🧐
I recommend to check his other works. There is some nice stuff especially if u want to know the story of Daneel. The Caves of Steel and its 2 sequel is just fantastic. 👏
I'll definitely be checking more of his stuff out.
very moist review i love it
Good to see new readers still enjoying 'Foundation' (haven't re-read it in decades partly because frankly, i'm slightly scared to - bit worried that the "of its time" stuff will grate too much now).
But back in the day it was _highly_ formative on my sci-fi journey. Likewise, his robot stories.
loved the way he worked all his series together
Thank you for this video. I've loved this trilogy and its prequels and sequels since I was a teenager. My favorite is Foundation and Empire.😊
Foundation was based on Gibbon, E. The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (1782). They were originally 8 short stories written during the 40s. 4x short stories + 1 additional story = Foundation, 2x short stories = Foundation and Empire, 2x short stories = Second Foundation.
Well aktually
I love your channel, thank you for great recommendations. :)
@@jvaigl Thank you! And you're welcome
At 1:35 you ask, "What's the word I want there?" The word is *lacuna* . The word's origins are anatomical, but it is much more often used to reference something "missing" from the experiences (including cultural touch points) that one would normally be expected to have.
I love these books, they were considered "must read" sci-fi back in the 70s and 80s. Today, sadly, not so much.
But wait, there's more! Decades later Asimov extended the Foundation books and linked them to his Robot novels and short stories. I found all of those to be wonderful as well.
Excellent video for this new year 🤣 sometimes, when something is old and established people look over it, but this is still some truly thought proving work by Asimov, who can bend towards the dry side 😜👍
Hey, Rammel! Happy new year!
Hope you are well!
I was wondering: where are we with Memories of Ice? I'm so impatient to hear your take on it.
I finished the book. The video will be sometime next week.
@@rammelbroadcasting
Amazing news! I'll be waiting! 😍
I liked the video, in my opinion the best book of his series about the Foundation, is not one of the three main books: but the Foundation's Edge. There is this page, where he describes the first contact with a new space ship handling technology. Absolutely genius. That is cinema, that will never be in the Apple's Series. I recommend you to read all the seven books. Trully a masterpiece.
_I recommend you to read all the seven books_ I would agree, but I've often wondered about something. *TLDR: Should the books be read in the order of the narrative or the order of publication?*
You see, I'm old enough that the only way I had to read these books was in their order of publication. Only the original trilogy existed when I was first reading Asimov in the early '70s, and then of course I eagerly ate up Foundation's Edge, which _is_ excellent. Then of course Foundation and Earth, where we truly see the link with the robot series made quite explicit. Up to this point, as you know, the books' publication order has matched the chronological narrative of the series. But then we get _Prelude_ and _Forward_ , which of course are prequels. I have more to say on this, but I'm curious about your opinion.
I read these over a few weeks. I enjoyed them immensely. Starting The Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy now. Should be fun!
Easily one of my favorite series ever. I just re-read it last summer and I think it holds up well, however much "of its time" it is. I would like to see a proper adaptation of the series (I'm no purist, but the Foundation Apple series is way off the mark) as well as a series based on the stories from I, Robot--- don't even get me started on the movie with the name arbitrarily slapped onto it. With all these connected universes in media now, I say get a competent team to give us a proper Asimoviverse!
Nice, the trilogy is also on my tbr for somewhere this year!
I read all of Asimov’s earlier books after I read the Prelude to Foundation, which was the first book I came across when it came out.
Then I ploughed through the Foundation Trilogy.
Those early books, like Pebble in the Sky, Currents of Space, provide some grounding for the Foundation set.
Worth tracking them down or looking for Kindle versions.
I read I Robot and The Foundation (book 1) back to back in December. Loved I Robot which had a similar structure and style to Foundation in the sense that it was a collection of short stories centered around one subject. I enjoyed The Foundation but found my engagement running out by the time I got to the last story. Overall, I was surprised by how accessible Asimov’s writing was.
Yes I saw 😊. I have the first book, haven't read it yet.
I've read a bit of the first novel and one of the prequels, Once I finish hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, I'll read them.
Love this channel!! Some very nice choices for book reading. Since you have a love of science fiction have you ever read any of Neil Asher's books? And if so could you do some reviews on his books?
I haven't read anything from him yet.
Read the trilogy a couple of years ago for the first time. I enjoyed it. Even the magic mutants. lol
@@ASageCalledQ I love everything about classic SciFi
Memories of Ice review??? also HNY sir!
Happy New Year. Memories of Ice will be next week.
I wanted to read these books before watching the well received FOUNDATION tv show. But then I got a free month of AppleTV and I thought, well … I could watch 1 or 2 episodes to see where’s it goes… and binge watched all two seasons in no time. Now I‘m in a tough spot: I love the TV show, but I know it’s VERY different from the books. And now I‘m not sure if I should read the books, because I fear they might seem even more dated after watching the show. Maybe someone here can help me out 😉
@SixStringSamur4i Well, it won't be me as I haven't seen the show. 🤷♂️
Read the books. Books will always be better than a show. There is so much more to the books than what the show even tried to get into.
@ That’s normally the way I go… reading the books before watching the movie. But I was in the mood for a good Scifi show, and it was probably the best thing I watched since the Expanse series. From what I read, fans of the books don’t like the show, and that irritates me, since the show is superb. The best explanation I found was: see it as a very creative remix, take the imagery, and read the books with those images in mind. I think that’s what I will do. Thanks for your answer.
You failed to make the point that all of Hari Seldon's predictions are made possible by a new, sophisticated mathematics called "psychohistory" that can predict future sociological trends on a macro (even galactic) scale. To leave this out could lead people to believe it's coming from some kind of mystical guru character that only believes he can predict the future, which is not the case in the books.
I also enjoyed how immensely epic the timescales are that the books lead you through.
There's the original trilogy plus 2 more that continue the story. The first 3 are up there with Tolkien. The last 2...meh. More like The Silmarillion in terms of unmet expectations. Although you do eventually find out the one source and control of all the stuff that no one else can explain.
2 foundations?, that my dude is a spoiler.
I enjoyed the Foundation books until his daughter took over, she just had to change things because she didn't like how the books originally were.
The sad truth is that Asimovs would probably be remembered by his worst books (foundation). The 3 Robot novels, The Gods Themselves and especially (his best) End of Eternity are all better
....Wow......Moist That was funny 😆Added!
I have my Dad's old trilogy in the cardboard box. I liked parts of it but Asimov went into too much detail of the science at times making it read like a hi fi amplifier with vacuum tubes manual. But you can see how Dune was in response to this with the other side winning.
Have you read Herbert's Desrination Void trilogy? It also is a lot like Foundation but a lot less hard science and I enjoyed them more.
I haven't read that trilogy.
I’m older than you, SF is my favourite genre by a mile, … and I haven’t read “Foundation” or indeed any Asimov that I can recall - I did read tons of Heinlein and the like as a child, but I have no memory of Asimov despite him being a favourite of my mother’s, where my love of SF originates.
In fact, I haven’t read any Herbert either, i.e. “Dune”. I know! 😱
I do of course have a full set of both of these series sat on my shelf nowadays, but so many books, you know? 🥹 I actually swooped on the “Foundation” based on The Secret Sauce of Storycraft’s review, which highly rated the subsequent books as I recall 🧐
They're pretty good and a quick read, too.