5 Popular Ways To Train Your Dog With Food
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- If someone says to you that they are a reinforcement-based dog trainer, what does that really mean? There are a lot of ways of training dogs with food or toys. Even though they fall under the reinforcement grouping, the different types of training are all dramatically different. We’re covering what I tried in the past, what I suggest you avoid, and the most effective way to shape your dog.
In the episode you'll hear:
• About training dogs by luring and using food or toys as a lure.
• What's termed observational learning or social learning, or sometimes modelling.
• About Stella the Kelpie and Bunny the Sheepadoodle using buttons to communicate.
• Some of the words that dogs understand and words that excite my dogs.
• What capturing behavior means and how to get a captured behavior like a stretch or talking.
• About shaping, and the critical difference between two styles used to shape a behavior.
• The reason I don't free shape these days and prefer layered shaping.
• How to make the correct choice for the dog the obvious choice.
• Why splitting behaviours down creates confidence for dogs and give you a strong foundation.
Resources:
1. Podcast Episode 94: How the Best Professional Dog Trainers Use Reinforcement - • How the Best Professio...
2. Podcast Episode 59: Why Your Treats Aren’t Working for Your Dog - • Why Your Treats Aren’t...
3. Podcast Episode 2: Reinforcement - • Reinforcement #2
4. Stella the Kelpie (Instagram) - / hunger4words
5. Bunny the Sheepadoodle (Instagram) - / whataboutbunny
6. Podcast Episode 5: What is Shaping And How Can Dogs Shape Us - • What is Shaping And Ho...
7. Blog with Video: Positive Dog Training and the Difference in Shaping - susangarrettdogagility.com/20...
8. Podcast Episode 167: Reduce Your Dog’s Stress And Anxiety In Training - • Reduce Your Dog's Stre...
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Timestamps:
00:00 What Is Reinforcement-Based Dog Training?
00:34 Lure Training Dogs as a Popular Method
04:41 One Way to Be Successful with Food Luring
05:37 Social or Observational Learning and “Do As I Do” for Dogs
06:59 Dog Training Like Stella the Kelpie and Bunny the Sheepadoodle
09:17 Capturing Behaviors and When to Capture
10:34 What’s the Difference Between Capturing and Shaping in Dog Training?
11:34 Beware of Capturing Cheap Behaviors
12:11 The Two Types of Shaping and My Experiences (Stoni vs Encore)
14:30 Avoid This “Free Shaping” Mistake
15:18 How I use Layered Shaping to Speed Up Training
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Check out the video on my blog to see the difference between shaping Stoni and Encore to get on a cooler - susangarrettdogagility.com/2018/11/the-difference-in-shaping/
Love all the names you have given your dogs.
I love layered shaping-- but more importantly, my dogs love it! ❤️
Capturing behavior when Helsie goes out of the pool and shake out the water we say shake shake shake and now she does it on one cue!
Very comprehensive discussion. I'm glad you included the recent Do As I Do and buttons training and gave us your take on those. Looking forward to more about layered shaping. Would like to know how "fine" to make the layers and how you decide if the understanding is there to "leap" forward. Thanks, great podcast.
This topic is so enthralling, love the reasons behind it. Can't wait for your next episode on this topic. Thanks so much for sharing 😊
I loved this! It was so interesting to hear you explain the differences with the various types of reinforcement based training. I have done some luring, a lot of shaping, and more recently I have started doing Do As I Do. When the COVID lock downs started a couple of years ago, I found out that I could take Zoom lessons with a trainer who works with Dr. Fugazza. My dog, Kenzie, earned her first level certification in Do As I Do training. She also won the judge's choice awards in both the complex and funny categories in last year's video competition using this method. I have not heard any trainers in Canada talk about Do As I Do before, so I was especially excited about that. I also bought some of the buttons that Bunny has, but so far I have not done anything with them. Do As I Do is good for some behaviours, but I still shape for others. I am looking forward to seeing what you do with Belief with some of the social learning.
This is so comprehensive. Such a clear explanation. I have used ALL of these, and unfortunately, all on my first ever dog. I then gradually over a decade, learned how he learned. What worked and what didn’t work. All I can say is that while the other methods were great for a minor specific action, (like you mentioned for a big stretch), it couldn’t translate into successful behaviour chains to facilitate the dog thinking for themselves; thus, offering something or effectively communicating with me, or I with them. Building the relationship. Bringing it to a new level along with that effective communication.
I am convinced now that LAYERED training is the only training that works best for ALL instances. It’s less frustrating. Not to mention, it’s like you said, it is more efficient! I would like to point out too that it’s clearer. We all know from you, Susan, that… “Clear is Kind!” ❤️🐾❤️🐾🤗
It’s positive reinforcement!
Great podcast providing clarity in training techniques! My training is done through Layered Shaping.
hi susan i am so glad that you talked about social learning. I have been fairly religiously following your advice and enrolled in 3 of your programs in the past but i must confess that i had been wondering whether you had tried do as i do or other forms of social learning with your dogs before as they are great tools. I am so happy that you are trying social learning with your new puppy. i think both button communication and do as i do are a lot of fun particularly with children in the house and we are very successfull with them
Thanks, this was really interesting to watch! I've used luring in the past and it did actually work well for us...we did in fact have a plan from day one for fading the lures :-)
We also used shaping- probably somewhere in between what you described as free-shaping and layered shaping. (We made it easy for the dog with the set-up, and I think did build confidence throughout the game, but probably didn't have as many layers as you would have used). It was interesting to see that while shaping took a little longer than luring at first, the behaviors that we taught through shaping were more solid (quicker to do the behavior, easier to build duration, and more quickly generalized) than the lured behaviors.
I look forward to the deeper dive into the "why" behind your favorite training methods! :-)
I am here, and in your recallers program and doing the crate games program, too pretty much learn how to not lure! I didn’t understand it fully and now my 14-year-old dog only works when I have food and super high value food at that! My next dog I want to teach with SG‘s layered shaping!!
Layered shaping in our house 😂 love it
I feel like adding confidence is so important to what we do. So maybe layered confidence shaping. 😅
I love that you are addressing this 'layered shaping'. I've bought into it as the most effective way to train (since starting to listen to you and taking some of your courses over the past year). But I'd like to learn how to create my own layers independently for behaviours that you don't teach. Often I figure it out, but there are times when I hit a wall and it's not always easy to figure out. At these times, I must confess, I tend to revert back to luring. With luring, sometimes I'll get it, but sometimes I still won't get it. Man...how'd have thought training a dog could be such a challenge lol.
Great insight Brent, I'll try to be sure to address this challenge (how to plan the layers) in a future episode
Great
I tried the communication buttons for about a year, and the buttons became our proud piece of objet d'art on the floor. So I gave them to someone who could use them. He did not like the sound at first, did not distinguish different words (he does when a real person speaks), and often mistook the mat that comes with the buttons as a hotzone.
Great feedback 😂
How do you fade lures? Can you please explain. Thank you
Dogs using buttons to communicate with their handlers appear to reflect a technological form of #ShapedByDog 🤔
RE: Ways of using food in reinforcement training - there was an old-school movement where dogs were trained using denial of food i.e. the 'no free lunch' or 'nothing in life is free' method. I don't know anyone continuing to ascribe to this paradigm but I'm sure there is
Do you play guitar? Is that a Yamaha in the background? 😁
Well I use the word “play” loosely. :) I’ve own a guitar since I was 11 and can’t read music but play chords. It is one of those activities I say “some day in my spare time I’ll learn more”
On a dog training note I've had 3 dogs in the house this weekend. 2 Golden retrievers and a Labrador. 2 of the 3 are HUGELY food motivated. We had some resource guarding episodes. Not severe but not what I wanted to see from them. They're good dogs overall, but....
Thanks to IYC and some reviewing they actually got to the point where I could do it with both dogs at the same time with perfect responses. Im so proud of them. Thanks for all you and your team do for us amateurs. And check out Tommy Emmanuel if you don't know him. He's an awesome guitar player from Australia. Very much like you. Kind, humble and hard working in his craft.
I don’t think the buttons are doing what the people believe. They never test if the dog actually wants what they press. If they offered the wrong item, would the dog reject it?