Scholar Kimberlé Crenshaw on the new 'segregation' of knowledge

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  • Kimberlé Crenshaw - the scholar who gave us ‘intersectionality’ - discusses the recent decision by the College Board to water down its AP African American studies coursework following attacks by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. She argues that the College Board's watering down of African American studies is actually proof of critical race theory in action. "Contemporary aspects of the past that continue to shape the life chances of African Americans cannot be taught if they hurt some feelings or they make people feel bad,” she says. Censoring information that challenges the mythical retelling of the past is a hallmark of authoritarian-leaning regimes.
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  • @mortenle
    @mortenle ปีที่แล้ว +96

    The new segregation: states with academic freedom vs. states without academic freedom. Wow. Removing even the word "theory" from the curriculum shows the utter insanity of this.

    • @billrodriguez3399
      @billrodriguez3399 ปีที่แล้ว

      Democrats = systemic racial hatred in America

    • @acc4465
      @acc4465 ปีที่แล้ว

      The insanity is looking at that list of ridiculous, radical fringe ideas and acting as if that has anything to do with black history or black people in general.
      Also insane the media continually lying about stories like this to create racial / political division.
      Where are the adults in 2023. All we have are people on the left acting like children.

    • @nenaaa1444
      @nenaaa1444 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Sara Mill Is this Milo?

    • @michaelwilliams2430
      @michaelwilliams2430 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sara Mill The only groomers are white born again evangelicals.

    • @MrMalcolm900
      @MrMalcolm900 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at it this way. If you are a democrat and vote for the democratic party, then what is happening in Florida is exactly what you get and deserve. Democrats are the party of big government intervention but when a Republican implements the way he see's how things should be run (Through government) now all of a sudden it's a problem to you mofo's? make it make sense.

  • @susanquinlan7426
    @susanquinlan7426 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This is not new. These is a reason Howard Zen wrote a history book. I grew up in the 60's and I would not never trust the "documented history" of our school system. Remember the ruckus caused by "Bury by heart at wounded knee" The book was taken from the stenographer notes all military officers had at the time.
    We need to teach Sociology in high school. That is where peoples minds open in college. It leaves a space for explaining modern day consequences. What we dont learn from we repeat.

    • @jackstrubbe7608
      @jackstrubbe7608 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sociology, and its political adjunct, civics. Both are missing from recent curriculum. I am so grateful that I am older, and from a state that (formerly) taught both. They indeed intersect.

    • @Laura-LaFauve
      @Laura-LaFauve ปีที่แล้ว

      I read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee. But I was young so I guess I missed the controversy?

    • @kenlandon6130
      @kenlandon6130 ปีที่แล้ว

      howard zinn's book wasn't all too accurate, but i get your point

    • @karld884
      @karld884 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@Laura-LaFauveNo harm in "understanding" the book this time. Heartbreaking yet hopeful. Like this nation.

    • @dsa513
      @dsa513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Laura-LaFauve I guess it's the critical description of war crimes by the US military that rubs people the wrong way

  • @minello7
    @minello7 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    True history should be taught to all students, regardless of color or religion, how do we expect students to grow up with critical thinking, also to become better individuals

    • @Serafinaz
      @Serafinaz ปีที่แล้ว

      magas don't want critical thinking nor better individuals they want rampant ignorance and imaginary grudges .

    • @dramese
      @dramese ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They don’t want that, they find power in narcissism

    • @charlesjones5451
      @charlesjones5451 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And you hit the nail on the head, A lot of people do not want students to develop critical thinking, because then they would start asking questions and seeking truth!!!

    • @TheRealCrimdor
      @TheRealCrimdor ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why don’t we teach how black people have historically viewed and treated white people?
      Personally, I’m glad we don’t. Because to me, we are all Americans. We need to have messages and teachings that bring us closer together, not divide us further.

    • @Serafinaz
      @Serafinaz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRealCrimdor like I wrote above ignorance and imaginary grudges.

  • @mommahen6271
    @mommahen6271 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    When I was taught about Slavery in 4th grade, I never internalized the idea that I was a racist. It is part of our history and we should not forget ever. I feel so sorry to all the kids being raised in these states.

    • @joycej9415
      @joycej9415 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Exactly, I realized how terrible it was and that my ancestors who owned slaves made me sad, but I understood that it was my job to keep it from happening again. It was never my fault that they made these mistakes.

    • @shirleybrown4303
      @shirleybrown4303 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I wasn’t taught about slavery at all and I’m almost 70😳. Most the limited information I had was from movies until the last 3 years.
      Schooled in Illinois

    • @yurei8
      @yurei8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exactly, as well! I now understand that ideas such as CRT, take the focus away from individual racism, and puts the emphasis on laws and other systems in place. Even such things as IQ tests, that claim to have no cultural bias, actually have them. And other things are influenced by wealth, such having a school with state of the art computer systems, or a planetarium, as examples. So having college admissions base solely on test scores, could actually be discriminatory. Also in colleges where there is diversity, it can add to widening views in discussions. yet the the right makes the issue about discrimination against white, instead.
      Claiming that learning about actual historical events will harm sensitive children, is a lie, in my view. And even if some child got confused, then the parent could actually interact with thier own child, in order to help them out. This fact has been entirely left out of the discussion.
      One additional thing: Black History Month was founded in large parts, because, 100 years ago serious white academics claimed that black people inferior beings, who contributed nothing to history. Look up the history of the Eugenics Movement, from that time period. Those ideas were also central to Adolph Hitler in his book, "Mein Kampf", which was written in that period.

    • @mommahen6271
      @mommahen6271 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@yurei8 thank you for sharing so much, I appreciate your view

    • @beckyecklund5773
      @beckyecklund5773 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too

  • @normaeason8734
    @normaeason8734 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Thank you Mr. Velshi and Professor Crenshaw spot on interview. Teaching honest history is important to all students.

    • @TheRealCrimdor
      @TheRealCrimdor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why don’t we teach how black people have historically viewed and treated white people?
      Personally, I’m glad we don’t. Because to me, we are all Americans. We need to have messages and teachings that bring us closer together, not divide us further.

    • @sceptre3524
      @sceptre3524 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheRealCrimdor how does it divide? You seem to admit that there’s already a divide.

    • @marohan
      @marohan ปีที่แล้ว

      Trash history. Victimhood

  • @judithsullivan9703
    @judithsullivan9703 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This corporate sellout is very frightening.... what next? I've always trusted higher education to challenge my cultural beliefs, isn't that what it's for. I'm actually scared now.

    • @ptrinch
      @ptrinch ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps the blue states need to start passing pro-woke laws so that the College Board needs to pick which side they are on.

    • @norwoodsstokes3883
      @norwoodsstokes3883 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly what corporations fear....it's a reason why they whitewash MLK.. boycotting also had a economic component the status quo would prefer you to forget

    • @kpokpojiji
      @kpokpojiji ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If it American, it is always about profit.

  • @Irisheddy
    @Irisheddy ปีที่แล้ว +56

    When I was grade school the only significant African American figure who we learned about about was George Washington Carver. It was not until I went to a Junior College that I was able to learn more about "Black History" and the African-American contribution to our culture. It made me appreciate the people's struggle.

    • @TheRealCrimdor
      @TheRealCrimdor ปีที่แล้ว

      Fake.

    • @TheRealCrimdor
      @TheRealCrimdor ปีที่แล้ว

      Why don’t we teach how black people have historically viewed and treated white people?
      Personally, I’m glad we don’t. Because to me, we are all Americans. We need to have messages and teachings that bring us closer together, not divide us further.

    • @Irisheddy
      @Irisheddy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheRealCrimdor Can you give an example of why we should

    • @james_smith9
      @james_smith9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheRealCrimdor oh you remember the civil war.

    • @joycegayden44
      @joycegayden44 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheRealCrimdor how old are you.

  • @Chulitatr
    @Chulitatr ปีที่แล้ว +28

    That's what happens when the Rules of Law are not enforced w/o fear or favor. The insurrectionist get in Congress and break the law.

    • @ronniechauvin
      @ronniechauvin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯Mob

    • @Narrow-Pather
      @Narrow-Pather ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And saying "I feared for my life" gives certain people validation and an alibi for unprovoked violence and murder with impunity.

  • @denisefrenette1928
    @denisefrenette1928 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Thank you Velshi, for concentrating on this very important issue!

  • @ClarityDetermination
    @ClarityDetermination ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I hope the lawyer for the two gentlemen who are taking DeSantis to court over this will be collaborating with her.

    • @advocacynaccountablity
      @advocacynaccountablity ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She has a JD (law degree) from Harvard, so not only is Crenshaw one of this century's most transformational leaders in scholarly study, she's also steeped in law and knows more than they do about it.

  • @MPR2
    @MPR2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    THANK YOU for having Kimberlé Crenshaw on the show Ali, we NEED to see more of her!!

  • @aliciathornwell_realtor
    @aliciathornwell_realtor ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Half (if not more) of these politicians couldn’t even define CRT.

    • @marohan
      @marohan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Victimhood wrapped n a bow

  • @peacemain8472
    @peacemain8472 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Im from germany and I learned pretty early in school about National Socialism and the Holocaust.
    I got teached about this part of my history so I could learn from it.
    To avoiding making the same mistakes or commiting the same crimes like the Nazis did.
    Instead of being ashamed of myself in the present
    im proud of not repeating the past.

    • @TheChopf26
      @TheChopf26 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The difference is that you were not that you were responsible or accountable for what happened before you were even born.

    • @ShannonDavisSings
      @ShannonDavisSings ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheChopf26 Neither are you. We are all simply accountable for dealing with the reality we are in now. That reality is learning to live with one another after a long history of racism and prejudice on many different levels and in many different areas of life throughout this country's history. Understanding that history is important to both overcoming our present problems and not repeating our historical ones. All of DeSantis's public acts over his governorship with regards to race show that he wants us to go backwards with regards to race relations. He will not be the last politician with serious power to want that.

    • @kpokpojiji
      @kpokpojiji ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @mericanmodi8479 dafuq?

    • @mr.flibble3190
      @mr.flibble3190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheChopf26 That we are not personally responsible for what happened before we were born is a point that Kimberlé Crenshaw specifically made in the interview. Did you not listen?

    • @ShannonDavisSings
      @ShannonDavisSings ปีที่แล้ว

      @mericanmodi8479 Um... your mincing words and splitting hairs. Racism is as old of a concept as it comes. It is an offshoot of fear of the unknown. It was here against the Native Americans and as soon as we Anglo Saxons jumped off our boats. Good Lord, it is in the Bible. The Old Testament. It is part of the human condition. And, it exists everywhere, to some degree. Still, it is a problem, mixed up as we are with one another reacting to our various shared histories, that has become "a pot capable of boiling over". We own that reality... the problems we face right now, right here. The question is how we are going to change that reality for our children. By hiding from those problems? By characterizing them or their effect on our society incorrectly? Or by facing our differences and finding solutions and compromises that bring us closer together.

  • @Laura-LaFauve
    @Laura-LaFauve ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Fantastic interview! Thank you Mr. Velshi!

    • @TheRealCrimdor
      @TheRealCrimdor ปีที่แล้ว

      Why don’t we teach how black people have historically viewed and treated white people?
      Personally, I’m glad we don’t. Because to me, we are all Americans. We need to have messages and teachings that bring us closer together, not divide us further.

    • @sarahpalubinski9141
      @sarahpalubinski9141 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRealCrimdor can you literally blame them for how they have viewed white people? Its not how they really view white people that's the problem....it's the social constructs white people have built, that have done nothing but enrich themselves. I urge you to do some research instead of making blanket statements like " why don't we teach how black people have historically viewed and treated white people."

    • @mooseheadjack1
      @mooseheadjack1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheRealCrimdor we need to teach accurate history

    • @TheRealCrimdor
      @TheRealCrimdor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mooseheadjack1 - I agree

  • @msc2u1
    @msc2u1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Florida NEEDS a new governor

    • @NIcholasparker88
      @NIcholasparker88 ปีที่แล้ว

      African Americans NEED to remember that Republicans freed them!

  • @theewill1483
    @theewill1483 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    EXCELLENT conversation!!

  • @stansargeant
    @stansargeant ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Funny.. I can study structural bias with regards to gender, without feeling guilty as a man.

  • @reinedusud
    @reinedusud ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Awesome breakdown 👏🏾🔥

    • @reinedusud
      @reinedusud ปีที่แล้ว

      @jackriddance2802 I pity the fool.
      -Mr. T 🥱

  • @ShannonDavisSings
    @ShannonDavisSings ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Excellent interview! As a former student in Florida, I am proud I grew up in a place where I could learn about these things. The only suggestion I can give out of state students is that they start looking at their college education as a commodity that they buy and CHOOSE not to attend colleges that refuse to teach these subjects. Money talks. The sticking point, of course, is that Florida students, themselves, will still get the shaft since their education is so much cheaper attending schools in state.

    • @markcosenza3274
      @markcosenza3274 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you learn African Kings sold their own people into slavery and are still doing it today? Did you learn Hillary and Obama killed Gaddafi in Libya and helped set up African Slave Markets? Did you learn there were many free blacks before the Civil War that owned slaves? You should read (D) Daniel Patrick Moyniha's paper from 1965 on the destruction of the black family by the federal government. Until the black family unit is returned, blacks can never move forward. I'm always amazed how democrats put teacher's unions before allowing black students school choice. That's the real racism. Blacks are often stuck in failing schools.

    • @ShannonDavisSings
      @ShannonDavisSings ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markcosenza3274 In context, I should note that I am a former teacher from a teaching family and yes I did learn all of that. From more education. Not less. Also, the real tragedy is that poorly funded primarily black schools are usually found to serve poorly funded primarily black districts... which are all planned out ahead of time by our politicians.

    • @markcosenza3274
      @markcosenza3274 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ShannonDavisSings As a former teacher, you are well aware of how the teachers unions don't care about students. They are against school vouchers, Charter Schools, and School Choice. The money should follow the student, that way, every student would be able to get a good education. Teachers unions protect incompetent teachers from being fired. The teachers union colluded with CDC to keep Schools closed, causing students to suffer from learning at a rate of 35%. The Chicago school district recieved 1.4 billion dollars of covid relief money. The teachers union skimmed 77% off for themselves in raises and bonuses. Many weren't even showing up for work, they were having other teachers clocking in for them. As you know, Chicago School district is one of the worst for reading scores.

    • @ShannonDavisSings
      @ShannonDavisSings ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markcosenza3274 You are altering the subject a bit. Don't get me wrong, while I applaud teacher's unions work (down here, where I am most educated on their practices), I won't say they've always stood on the side of students, particularly when forces have risen up against their working contracts. But it isn't that they have a stake in the agendas at large that I take issue with. Just like I don't care if African American interests push them to want their children (or all children) to learn from their history. That is their agenda and in a democratic society that agenda must be heard and weighed. What bothers me is when there is desire to take away information that helps a state or even district make up their mind on how it wants to educate their kids. I know that this is a fantastical example as the knowledge of that history is so engrained in our culture, but if they actually could erase slavery from our consciousness, there would still be iniquity for our black students in education and the world, we just couldn't come together to point out why it happened or to decide together how to fix it.

  • @honestbusiness1371
    @honestbusiness1371 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you

  • @DC-rd6oq
    @DC-rd6oq ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Critical Race Theory (CRT) is not being taught other than in law school. CRT is not part of the high school AP African American Studies course. The fact that CRT was removed as mandatory (and made optional) from the AP African American Studies course proves that Critical Race Theory is correct.

    • @normaeason8734
      @normaeason8734 ปีที่แล้ว

      To @user-qj5bz1my7k. Your comment is spot on. Thank you.

    • @DC-rd6oq
      @DC-rd6oq ปีที่แล้ว

      @@normaeason8734 You realize i was being sarcastic, right? i mean it's an entirely circular argument solely intended to show she is right so she can sell more of her books

    • @mr.flibble3190
      @mr.flibble3190 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC-rd6oq Except that this isn't what she was arguing. It's at best a straw man, and at worst a word salad tossed by someone who didn't understand what they were listening to.

    • @DC-rd6oq
      @DC-rd6oq ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr.flibble3190 i didn't create the word salad, Crenshaw did. And what exactly do you think she Is arguing?

    • @mr.flibble3190
      @mr.flibble3190 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DC-rd6oq You did not understand what she said. Listen again. Take notes if you need to.

  • @freedomofreligion3248
    @freedomofreligion3248 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dr. Crenshaw is one of America's treasures & is valued + loved by all who enter into truths.

  • @sueandrews2562
    @sueandrews2562 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    College learning is on a higher level. Yet the colleges are going along with this lower level of learning.

    • @kpokpojiji
      @kpokpojiji ปีที่แล้ว

      Only in some states. Hence the Balkanization of America.

  • @LizA-ry4nb
    @LizA-ry4nb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow modern day segregation in the classroom! There should be federal law requiring African American history be taught...it's the foundation of this country arguably American history.

  • @michaelrmurphy2734
    @michaelrmurphy2734 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The really ironic thing is this is being promoted by a man who went to an Ivy League school. AND law school.
    And later taught at a private school where he partied with teenagers and got one sick by drinking a lot of milk.

    • @kenlandon6130
      @kenlandon6130 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i would love to know more about the private school teacher stint. got any sources?

    • @RobinaB530
      @RobinaB530 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kenlandon6130 Me too. Waiting....

    • @joycej9415
      @joycej9415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Republicans have actually been working on doing this by finding young lawyers and grooming them by the Federalist Society for decades.

    • @RobinaB530
      @RobinaB530 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joycej9415 I know and it scares me t death for our children. At 70 they can't do much to me but the future.....

    • @joycej9415
      @joycej9415 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Deborah Lonergan scares me too. I have a Trans kid and am also 70. Had 4 grands born during the last 4 years and am scared for their future.

  • @christenasmalls6118
    @christenasmalls6118 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It is impossible to stall the learning of history today. Everything is available through the internet. As a septuagenerian I have learn more about the world and the history than at anytime in my lifetime. No one can go backward and nothing can be covered up.

    • @denisefrenette1928
      @denisefrenette1928 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's perhaps factual to a point. But universities ARE a place for advancing knowledge, and any attempt to ban books and "critical" teachings should certainly not be swept under the rug. Have we learned anything at all from the beginning of Nazi'ism in Germany and its evil spread?

    • @gnirolnamlerf593
      @gnirolnamlerf593 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ever tried to learn about history on the internet in China or North Korea, or, I imagine, Russia, Hungary, Turkey?
      As Prof. Crenshaw points out, this is a step on that road.

    • @kevintinzy7335
      @kevintinzy7335 ปีที่แล้ว

      Children these days are not going to take it upon themselves to learn anything that's not assigned to them. So race war has just gotten started.

    • @kevintinzy7335
      @kevintinzy7335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@firefx99 well sir things are different now. Back in the 60s and 70s is when black knew that knowledge is power. Now we have tictok, games and cellphones. Back then we had books and read. Reading is not a joy that kids run to today.

    • @kevintinzy7335
      @kevintinzy7335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@firefx99 everything about real true black history isn't taught in schools. But that needs to be taught nationwide in all schools. Your one daughter gaining that is good for her but not for the nation.

  • @mitziewheeler8517
    @mitziewheeler8517 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I'm white but I would love to be able to take these kinds of classes without them being watered down. I can't afford college and I'm 57 and disabled but I watch as much free teaching as I can find, I really really wish these teachers and professors would teach the real classes for free on TH-cam. I'm a history geek and I have always studied it as much as I can. There are some bad things that happened in our country in the past. We learn from the past to move forward and have a better country and world. We have to stop this stupid division over the color of a person's skin. If you look at a bunch of x-rays the only things you will be able to tell first and foremost male and female, other wise who broke what bones in the past who has more wear and tear on their bones. But you will not be able to KNOW THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN. Stop being idiots people.

    • @doneestoner9945
      @doneestoner9945 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I believe there is only one race - the Human Race.

    • @keyfield8967
      @keyfield8967 ปีที่แล้ว

      Openstax US history is very accurate and cuts no corners on telling the "real" history of this country...

    • @marohan
      @marohan ปีที่แล้ว

      History vs indoctrination of young minds to hate the country

    • @marohan
      @marohan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@topbaddie
      2 parent households are privileged
      Taking math is privilege
      Getting into honors is privilege
      Not getting suspended is privilege
      Victimhood narrative

  • @zoer7338
    @zoer7338 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like her style.

  • @patrickvanrinsvelt4466
    @patrickvanrinsvelt4466 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Very scary in Florida. One of my best courses at UofF featured readings from Maya Angelou and breaking down the message she was trying to get across. It was truly amazing and allowed me to understand both sides of the issues that still affect us today. Taking this away demonstrates pure ignorance.

  • @demetriusmixon4141
    @demetriusmixon4141 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stop being around people who hate you.

    • @ShannonDavisSings
      @ShannonDavisSings ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish to understand where this advice springs from in relation to this interview. Does this statement mean that you are advocating segregation?

    • @demetriusmixon4141
      @demetriusmixon4141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShannonDavisSings Respect.

  • @doricetimko332
    @doricetimko332 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s a shame that all of the people who know what CRT stands for, do not understand what it is and when it’s presented in the course of education

    • @oceania2385
      @oceania2385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed.

    • @oceania2385
      @oceania2385 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Awareness check, ask them what that the difference is between a critical theory and a traditional theory.

    • @oceania2385
      @oceania2385 ปีที่แล้ว

      @mericanmodi8479 Great response and %100 true. I can promise you that the average viewer of this segment thinks "critical theory" pioneered by Horkheimer in the 30's is really "critical thinking". I also agree the history is fascinating - But how do you relate that to public ? Btw the best, most coherent definition of critical theory is at the Stanford school's encyclopedia of philosophy.

    • @oceania2385
      @oceania2385 ปีที่แล้ว

      @mericanmodi8479 There's a dishonesty component, that I find troubling. Crenshaw knows what tenants are in it. She's studied aspects of it for 25+ years. Joy Ried, to a tiny extent, knows what it is. There's aspects of it with a lineage to some very dark parts of history. They never share it with their audience.

  • @tonisodano5472
    @tonisodano5472 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Race & gender no place for her in Florida, that’s extremely upsetting!!! We all need to be concerned about this !

  • @Riv3rch781
    @Riv3rch781 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    CRT is actually teaching you to be more empathetic and aware of the mistakes of the past to consequently use it as a moral compass.

    • @Sandrae7560
      @Sandrae7560 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh no, it’ll hurt our children’s feelings, and we don’t want that. Why? Because it makes them feeling guilty for their current wealth😏 (insert sarcasm)

    • @marohan
      @marohan ปีที่แล้ว

      Victimhood

  • @jamesvonborcke
    @jamesvonborcke ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When you empathize and identify with the heroes of our history, our history is a story of continual forward movement from one victory to the next.
    When you empathize and identify with the villains of our history, our history is a long string of humiliating defeats.
    The question I'd ask is... Why would anyone empathize with the villains? And why should we care about their delicate precious feelies?

    • @MPR2
      @MPR2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They "empathize with the villains" because they too are the villains!

    • @garykain4448
      @garykain4448 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Villains come in all shapes, colours and sizes.
      Most people have little empathy for them, nor do they care about their feelies.
      Gotta work together.
      One life, One planet.
      Godspeed.

    • @ShannonDavisSings
      @ShannonDavisSings ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ask Hercule Poirot. Or any sociology professor. Or judge. Or politician. One must understand villains and villainy to function in a society. Ignoring that sort of thing doesn't mean it goes away.

    • @sharonjohnson9063
      @sharonjohnson9063 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The lost cause was allowed to fester. No consequences for those that seceded. No consequences for the rich slave owners and their participating offspring. And here we are...

    • @mr.flibble3190
      @mr.flibble3190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you start by dividing history into lists of "heroes" and "villains," you have already committed yourself to mythology instead of history.

  • @mooseheadjack1
    @mooseheadjack1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I dare any of the trolls on here to explain why being "woke" is bad, or give me examples, proof, that CRT is being taught anywhere other than graduate level college courses.

    • @bidenisgarbage9428
      @bidenisgarbage9428 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch it you wokie

    • @mooseheadjack1
      @mooseheadjack1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobice4295 we can. So, since republicans can't, or cannot accept it, I guess that makes you woke

    • @mooseheadjack1
      @mooseheadjack1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobice4295 yes she can. She didn't because that was not the time to answer stupid questions from republicans.

    • @mooseheadjack1
      @mooseheadjack1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobice4295 ok. And?

    • @mooseheadjack1
      @mooseheadjack1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobice4295 no she isn't. Try again, I know it's difficult for you.

  • @yeevita
    @yeevita ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very interesting. Thinking back, I think I was the only one in my entire elementary school who read my entire school library, the local library and started in at the main library. And unfortunately, I think at college, there were not the many students interested in reading all the different libraries available on campus. Unfortunate because all this information is there, if one just visited the sites (online), and opened the books (online). I also used all sorts of different reading lists, such as Harvard reading lists in my Junior High and High school years. Today, those lists are even easier to obtain and those books easier to read.
    So much information, so few people who want to learn. Very unfortunate.

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never again will I allow the demons 😈 of fear to control my life.

    • @yurei8
      @yurei8 ปีที่แล้ว

      And that's right out of the Bible as well. 2 Timothy 1:7. English Standard Version
      "for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control."

  • @lorettalong6679
    @lorettalong6679 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes!.

  • @SuperLaurielove
    @SuperLaurielove ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes! Anyone who's taught truthfully about African American history and culture at the K-12 levels knows there's great interest among all students - including White kids- who desire to understand how "race" became such a divisive issue in our country. All of our youth need to know the truth about our nation's historical devaluing of black lives and how that devaluing, erasure and systemic oppression is alive in all of our institutions, perhaps most especially in employment, in our schools and in the criminal justice system.

  • @marci1878
    @marci1878 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes this is a correct description. They want to segregate and create plausible deniability

  • @Oshun_KC
    @Oshun_KC ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't subscribe to MSNBC because of how they treated Tiffany Cross. But, I'll show love to Prof. Crenshaw! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @al-paciyes5722
    @al-paciyes5722 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Get more black students to excel in math & science

  • @jay4you853
    @jay4you853 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More of this!🙏🏽Outside radical Republicans and fascist tears, fear, hate and negativity, that's all we need!👏🏾🇺🇲

  • @victormuhammad2678
    @victormuhammad2678 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ron Desantis for president 1864 😂

    • @normaeason8734
      @normaeason8734 ปีที่แล้ว

      To @victormuhammad2678 I love you comment. Good 👍 one.

    • @lv6852
      @lv6852 ปีที่แล้ว

      or working on chain gang

  • @advocacynaccountablity
    @advocacynaccountablity ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned CRT in the 80's as a white elementary school kid. I assure you, I didn't "hate my whiteness". I was proud to be educated and to learn the history of America so that we could do things differently. Our kids are white kids who learn CRT in public school. They are educated, empathic, and wise - and have never been made to feel responsible or guilty about white American foundations of enslavement. They are curious, and have incredible ideas for our future.

  • @oceania2385
    @oceania2385 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crenshaw does explain one thing very clearly, the individual does not count, the collective must be persecuted. Well done.

  • @FASBLAQUE
    @FASBLAQUE ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The history book I had in high school had a drawing of Frederick Douglas that made me think he was white. I didn't learn that he was a Black man until I was in my twenties. I imagine they will do the same thing to MLK and make people think he was white in the future.

  • @randal_gibbons
    @randal_gibbons ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If this revised AP African studies class is a product, then Florida's highschool students have have been given a defective product.

    • @gnirolnamlerf593
      @gnirolnamlerf593 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as the product sells, it is a good product in our system, whether or not it works. That's why we still have sugary cereals on the market. Do they still have commercials that tout such cereals as "part of a healthy breakfast," when the cereal is the only part that isn't healthy in the picture of the breakfast that pops up on the screen? As Mr. Velshi points out, if you can prevent a product from selling, it automatically becomes a bad product to be discontinued. That is the argument being made here: that the College Board made a business decision that has nothing to do with effective vs defective education but only with catering to the opinions of certain politicians and their supporters, who don't prioritize effective teaching and learning.

  • @twodogstudio2
    @twodogstudio2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a white man, Ms. Crenshaw recalled my exact experience when learning about Critical Race Theory at 5:36 when she describes how an actual understanding of the principle partly exonerates the individual from personal responsibility for the racism that is perpetuated by structures within society, government, and other institutions. At the same time, it focuses a lens on one's own behavior and all of the small unintentional ways that the individual perpetuates the structures. For me, it was a life changing experience that I think about every day and has had a profoundly positive impact on my relationships with everyone I encounter in my daily life.

  • @goldenteesilverado
    @goldenteesilverado ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She is amazing.\

    • @billrodriguez3399
      @billrodriguez3399 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classic non American democrat funded fake unfed unresponsive bot

    • @goldenteesilverado
      @goldenteesilverado ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sara Mill education is important.

    • @goldenteesilverado
      @goldenteesilverado ปีที่แล้ว

      Bill Rodriguez, I lived in Florida for twenty years. I moved away because of the ignorant people that wouldn't consider views of others. Maybe I'm the bot you describe or just maybe I'm an Honorably discharged former Marine Sergeant that sees through more compassionate eyes than you.

    • @goldenteesilverado
      @goldenteesilverado ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sara Mill,. Woke is an unusually popular word these days. It's seems to be used quite often by those that choose to sleep.

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And Moses said to the people, "Do not be afraid. Stand still, and see 👀 the salvation of the LORD, which He will accomplish for you today. For the Egyptians whom you see 👀 today today. For the Egyptians whom you see 👀 today, you shall see again no more forever."
    ~Exodus 14:13 (NKJV) 🕊

  • @aurora_occidentalis2248
    @aurora_occidentalis2248 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    'segregation'

  • @vernonmurphy7945
    @vernonmurphy7945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The"fear" is real....smh!

  • @StumblingThroughItAll
    @StumblingThroughItAll ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Minute 7:05
    Wait...so you're telling me that the College Board moved ideological theories (like Intersectionality and CRT) into an optional category that allows them to be taught not as fact, but as....theories?
    And that is "dangerous", why?
    Oh yeah, because this has far more to do with a certain vein of revolutionary-left theories not being presented as one of many perspectives, but being trumpeted as fact. That was a nice sleight of hand Dr. Crenshaw...You almost got me.
    “The very power of [textbook writers] depends on the fact that they are dealing with a boy: a boy who thinks he is ‘doing’ his ‘English prep’ and has no notion that ethics, theology, and politics are all at stake. It is not a theory they put into his mind, but an assumption, which ten years hence, its origin forgotten and its presence unconscious, will condition him to take one side in a controversy which he has never recognized as a controversy at all.”
    ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

  • @Floymin
    @Floymin ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ron DeSantis is the new George Wallace.

    • @victormuhammad2678
      @victormuhammad2678 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not new in Florida

    • @Floymin
      @Floymin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@victormuhammad2678 Florida has had a lot of segregationists? Not surprising, considering half of the population are seniors.

    • @Floymin
      @Floymin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joebrewer4529 Another conservative troll trying to paint their kind as the victim. GET LOST!

    • @Floymin
      @Floymin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joebrewer4529 Nice to meet a college jock who never learned about the racist politicians of the 60s.

  • @treysharpe904
    @treysharpe904 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Prob the worst guest msnbc could have had on about this topic.
    Arguing against having these concepts removed proves DeSantis right.
    These concepts are ideological.
    Who doesn’t think that American past discrimination is taught.

    • @ShannonDavisSings
      @ShannonDavisSings ปีที่แล้ว

      Would you prefer they be taught in a classroom of many-colored children because "past" discrimination is still relevant and felt by a good chunk of them or would you rather their parents teach them to call people the N word behind closed doors and DeSantis teach them that white supremacists gaining a foothold in our state is totally fine by pointedly not condemning their antics (which has happened repeatedly over the last few years)? More importantly, would you have our young people grow up and become the leaders and forgers of, we hope, a better tomorrow they will one day be without teaching them that society does come with problems like bigotry and racial injustice which they must tackle or gift to their own children?

    • @kpokpojiji
      @kpokpojiji ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You seem triggered, bro. She won't hurt you.

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never again will I be bound, for Christ has made me free. I am free indeed.
    ~ John 8:36 (NKJV) 🕊

  • @josephsonora3787
    @josephsonora3787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about studies on something needed like police reform? They still haven't got it right and need help immediately!

    • @markcosenza3274
      @markcosenza3274 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's been tried and failed. After George Floyd riots, many cities defunded the police. This led to more dead blacks. Now, all of these cities are rushing to fund police, but it's too late. They followed the lead of a Marxist Organization, BLM to their own demise. Memphis had 302 murders in 2022,none involving police. Where is the outrage?

    • @mr.flibble3190
      @mr.flibble3190 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Merican Modi What we, here and now, need most of all is Merican Modi reform.

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never again will I allow the accuser to accuse me, for I am washed and cleansed by the blood of the Lamb.
    ~ Revelation 1:5; 7:14 (NKJV) 🕊

  • @lisaflores8801
    @lisaflores8801 ปีที่แล้ว +5

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never again will I allow the demons 😈 of rejection to control my life.

  • @davidwhitaker6580
    @davidwhitaker6580 ปีที่แล้ว

    ENLIGHTENING….

  • @ladyk7675
    @ladyk7675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate my mom and dad more now then ever. They were not Harvard grads in the boule class just simple hard working non-whining people who brought me Black dolls and taught us Black history and instilled in us Black pride. I am 65 so you know the environment they were in. Now days we act like we have to beg White people to teach us our history and let them throw in a bunch of stuff that has got absolutely nothing to do with Black history. They have us shouting about Black and Brown but I see the Brown people trying to get ahead academically and financially and not playing around with these people over foolishness.

  • @zoer7338
    @zoer7338 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an important discussion. Congress?

    • @L._Diaz
      @L._Diaz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She's not a congresswoman.

  • @Dutchie5269
    @Dutchie5269 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why not have college board CEO David Coleman and a panel including Dr. Kimberle Crenshaw et. al. ? this issue is not a conversation but a debate. Digital journalism's goal is to gain ad dollars not resolve important issues.

  • @enlighted365
    @enlighted365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every law created in America is race based

  • @bo2.4u6
    @bo2.4u6 ปีที่แล้ว

    TELL IT!!!!!!! ♥️

  • @beckyecklund5773
    @beckyecklund5773 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ms Crenshaw I know what you are saying is true not all white people are afraid of the truth great show Ari

  • @dougthomson5544
    @dougthomson5544 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here is the kicker, CRT is essential to the health of the nation.

  • @davidvoight4679
    @davidvoight4679 ปีที่แล้ว

    She is revealing the whole truth

  • @dangelotrawick9819
    @dangelotrawick9819 ปีที่แล้ว

    She so smart, and really explains their motives behind their nonsense

  • @decatercherry7245
    @decatercherry7245 ปีที่แล้ว

    Racism 101. Call it what it is

  • @itzasweater9621
    @itzasweater9621 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She is so nervous her grift is coming to an end. 🤡

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never again will I be a slave to Satan; I am now a servant of Christ.

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never again will I tolerate the works of the devil 😈 in my life, for Jesus came and destroyed the works of the devil.
    1st John 3:8 (NKJV) 🕊

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never again will the heavens be shut over my life, but the Lord has opened the windows 🪟 of heaven.
    ~ Malachi 3:10 (NKJV) 🕊
    Blessings to all of goodwill. God loves us all. America belongs to all of us. Keep the faith. Thank you, LORD. 🕊

  • @MaryHardymsmary_h
    @MaryHardymsmary_h ปีที่แล้ว

    Education is the foundation.

  • @bufalopete897
    @bufalopete897 ปีที่แล้ว

    The counter position to her position is her position! If racism is so bad out here in these streets, why is she successful? Why is she so respected? Racism doesn't seem to have held her back.

  • @tonypitsacota2513
    @tonypitsacota2513 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When "fact checking" is not based on "fact".

    • @franklin9400
      @franklin9400 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fact checker is a title givin by a company. It means nothing. Liberals love using language to confuse people.

  • @benjaminfranklin8412
    @benjaminfranklin8412 ปีที่แล้ว

    If a teacher cannot explore facts and laws without relying on buzz phrases, how good would the course be? If the facts reveal what needs to be revealed to the students, why quibble over words and phrasing?

  • @joycesvarvar
    @joycesvarvar ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Ali.

  • @deborahmarinelli9277
    @deborahmarinelli9277 ปีที่แล้ว

    Her distorted view of the world is harming generations of people. No one should hear to any word she’s uttering. What this women is saying absolute crazy.

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never again will I allow the devil to do what he desires in my life, but I resist the devil, and he flees from me.
    ~ James 4:7 (NKJV) 🕊

  • @anthonydef3000
    @anthonydef3000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep this momentum going✊🏾

  • @johnperrry215
    @johnperrry215 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about Abraham Lincoln's emancipation proclamation? By the way Lincoln was a Republican and so was MLK Jr

    • @ShannonDavisSings
      @ShannonDavisSings ปีที่แล้ว

      First, neither would recognize the Republican party of today. They were conservatives. While a few old school Republicans remain, they do not even mean a majority in their own party. Second, shortly after the Civil War the Republicans and Democrats basically switched in terms of what they believed in and stood for. Read more history.... Which, is my whole point to anyone and everyone watching this interview.

    • @L._Diaz
      @L._Diaz ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not true.
      The official answer to which party MLK supported is neither.
      King talked very infrequently about his personal politics and *was not formally affiliated with either political party.*
      Nor did he explicitly endorse any candidate.
      In fact, he stated, “I don’t think the Republican Party is a party full of the almighty God, nor is the Democratic Party. They both have weaknesses. And I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”
      What’s more, the parties of King’s time were different from the parties we know today; policies and platforms have changed drastically over time.

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never again will I be beneath and not above.
    ~ Deuteronomy 28:13 (NKJV)

  • @seanmccartney5177
    @seanmccartney5177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No report on the 9yr old attacked by the 14yr old, Wonder why?

    • @mr.flibble3190
      @mr.flibble3190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because you're watching the wrong video.

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never again will Pharaoh (Satan) control me because I have been delivered from his power.

  • @berthabridges3483
    @berthabridges3483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never again will I listen to or believe the lies of the devil, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
    ~ John 8:44 (NKJV)

  • @abdallahmuhammad-bey8810
    @abdallahmuhammad-bey8810 ปีที่แล้ว

    History is repeating itself. 🙄

  • @nellyfootlong
    @nellyfootlong ปีที่แล้ว

    Great honour... take the chip off your shoulder ^ KC

  • @matthewchrome5144
    @matthewchrome5144 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a person labeled Afro-American, their version of Afro American studies is 20% fiction, 20% falsehood, 20% short stories, 20% creative writing & 20% denying our culture is the major reason we lack wealth.

  • @chrisper7527
    @chrisper7527 ปีที่แล้ว

    What DeSantis is doing is exactly what CRT and the various studies critique. I guess they want to go back to the notion that the slaves were “ happy” in their conditions, and they were like “little children “.

  • @anthonydef3000
    @anthonydef3000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing interview❤

  • @reginaldharris3287
    @reginaldharris3287 ปีที่แล้ว

    The More Things The More They Stay The Same. The Ignorant Wants Control Wants More Power and To Keep You Uninformed.

  • @brianwimberly7937
    @brianwimberly7937 ปีที่แล้ว

    Racism isn't like it's made out to be, just like she said about the whites stepping between cops and blacks. Perception and reality on RACISM isn't the same.

  • @Pasta-B1FBA
    @Pasta-B1FBA ปีที่แล้ว

    2006-2021

  • @lucindagreen8825
    @lucindagreen8825 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep in mind these are the same people that used a white bible and colored bible for taking oaths. If that's not crazy tell me what is.

  • @nursemcfarlane6655
    @nursemcfarlane6655 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess it was better to ride a segregated train than no train at all but who wants to go back to that kind of compromise?

  • @TeamWizard1
    @TeamWizard1 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 🤗🙌🏾🗣️📣💯% TEACH SISTAH, TEACH.....!!!! ✊🏾