Sykkuno doesn’t do serious RP. He is much like Ray where he likes grinding and heisting and the gameplay aspect of nopixel, so of course in Syk’s mind he sees kicking him from the job as a bigger offense when in actually it was the months of bullying that pushed Ray. I mean I appreciate that Sykkuno stood there whole rp conversation but honestly wasn’t surprised by any of his responses.
Yuno is level headed and looks at things from both sides which makes him understand where ray is coming from and why Mickey needs to take more responsibility for what happend
I love when Yuno entered the meeting and completely changed it up and everybody got mad at him, especially other peoples chats because he saw Rays side but the further this arc went on the more I realized Yuno and Buddha were the only level headed people here. Ray shouldn't have done what he set boundries which Mickey pushed every time and the when Ray got fed up and shot him he played the victim card. Yeah Ray was in the wrong but so was Mickey
That doesn't give someone the right to kill someone. Or else every little brother in the world would have killed his big brother. That's how family is.
@@TKAFTBL this type of stuff usually happens irl especially when your jokes went a little to far and the person your telling is not good at taking jokes.
@@Joel_M You don't pick and chose your family. Mickey is CB and that is a fact and it doesn't matter what Ray thinks. You can hate family but you can't make decisions lead by your ego that can hurt the rest of the family.
Yea where yuno is saying it’s a pretty bad one maybe ooc but in reality and rp Rae shooting at the car and hitting the 2 in there and then kidnapping Mikey and killing him is so much more serious then simply kicking someone off a job because your bickering in rp terms
This is also really funny because yuno is looked at as the softest member of the city yet he handles things in the most adult way whereas most of them will jump on any opportunity to play victim. Understanding perspective is the right and harder thing to do but cb and most of the city and people in general won’t take that route because it’s less favorable. I don’t care to comment on it too often cuz it’s just the world we live in to flame people that do or say anything out of what socially acceptable and “not cool” but this is the perfect situation of everyone who claiming to be family shitting on ray and yuno being like well doesn’t he have a side too, it’s perfectly reasonable to say both sides are wrong but again someone has to be the fall guy
What I believe from what yuno was saying that Mickey took it too far and Ray took it even farther is that they all took part into the situation is one way or another due to escalating it for the longest time. I mean there's so much you can "pick" on someone till they end up breaking and doing something they might regret. From what I'm seeing in the femly is that no one wants to take accountability and wants to put the problem on one single person. That includes everyone.
This whole thing seem so one-sidedly in favour of Mickey to me. This isn't something new... this is something that was built up. Mickey was told to chill. Mickey was told he would be killed. Mickey knew what he was doing. Like Mickey left CG for feeling disrespected and always being "bullied" made fun of and the but of the joke, amongst other things... it's not criminal for Raymond to feel the same... and by Mickey of all people. But everyone is like... well it was Egg's job so he should've just let Mickey bully him. Or Well talk to the family (WHICH THEY ALREADY DID but Mickey still drove him to this point by messing with him), or Just take it and let Mickey do whatever he wants. It's like... the way they're going in on Raymond is as if they didn't like him to begin with... considering no one but Lang and Yuno even attempts to look at the bigger picture or understand him. He has never even shown something of this kind to anyone else but now they all switch up like he's always been an issue to them. (Minus that thing with tiny, Ray_C said he didn't feel comfortable doing that either) Now they make it seem like he's just straight crazy. I mean... he is crazy in a way, but Raymond as a character is just serious. When he says he will kill someone, he will. Raymond doesn't banter like everyone else. LANG himself said that's why he chilled on making fun of Ray. And everyone should know that. He didn't act out of character in the slightest. Even if what he did was too far
Well, I think Mickey developed an inferiority complex during his time with CG, and by the time he came to CB, he found the opportunity to become a bully to Ray. But ofcourse both of them are in the wrong, but bottom line is, what Lang, Tony and everybody else is saying is that what Ray did is not what CB does. They resolve issues by talking cause if you just shoot willy nilly, it gets really awkward and results to a divide in the family.
@@aintijustthecutest3863 yeah you're right and I understand that. It just feels like even so, it's like no one wants to address the other half of the story. Even when Mickey came back to the manor and spoke his piece about Raymond... the only person to confront him in any way, was Yuno... OF ALL PEOPLE. Like... Raymond taking it further than too far... doesn't negate everything that got it TOO FAR in the first place. But no one's addressing that but Lang in his head, and Yuno
mickey didn't leave cg cause he felt he was being bullied. they tried to make him stop hanging out with his friends and doing jobs with them. also tried to make him kill yuno and cause he didn't, he got kicked as a traitor.
@@nei8302 this hes the bitch boy in so many groups he could def take that i also feel like mickey doesnt do anything different to ray anyone else in cb does he just only gets offended by mickey cause he thinks mickey is inferior and its really victim blaming to be like well he made fun of me so i killed him sounds school shooter sidiing
I hadn't thought this before Sykkuno brought it up, but when Ray said he'd shoot Mickey on the job, that could have been an invitation for some of the rest of the femly to intervene. I think none of them took Ray seriously. Was Ray in the wrong? Definitely. But we're not our best selves when we're in our feels and if the rest of the femly present had any empathy for Ray they might have been able to disarm the situation. Unfortunately, none of the femly present, Mickey included, cared enough about Ray's feelings to pause when he made it clear how he felt. Mickey saying it was for Egg makes it seem like Ray was putting himself first, which is kind of true, but everyone involved put Ray dead last.
Ray only got kicked because he said he would kill Micky even if it meant screwing up the plan. Claiming that kicking him off is the catalyst is just wrong.
plus after he shot mickey he said he wanted to teach him respect, so Ray have reasons. It's not like he's just insane or something. It's wrong but it's his RP charcater.
I love how Yuno is growing a back bone with the boys, was a follower for a while being new to RP but he’s making a statement with Mickey XD kinda hilarious.
I mean yuno is right, in a sense after micky rammed the fire hydrant he did leave ray. I know he shot at them understandable every person does that and ray wasn't as angry about the fire hydrant as he was about leaving him behind counting as kicking him out of the job thats why it escalated to an ocean dump
he made it extremely clear that he didn’t care about the job in any way shape or form. instead of listening when the plan was being explained he was on the phone with kitty. she told him multiple times she didn’t want the car he was offering her but he dragged out the phone call. he could’ve called her later but he chose to do it at a bad time when everyone in the car except him was focused on planning. egg told him multiple times to get off the phone and pay attention and he wouldn’t. so mickey drove over the fire hydrant as a joke. ray shot at everyone in the car so they left him behind to cool off. ray didn’t give a shit about the bank job for egg. mickey had barry and harry call him to try and get him back on the job to help with the escape but ray only wanted to hunt and kill mickey. ray said multiple times that if he was on the job, that he would shoot mickey and escape the cops without him. i don’t understand why yuno is zeroing in on ray getting kicked off the job since the only thing ray was willing to do was ruin it. that being said, this rp is spicy. 😊
@delilah8470 because that where the story is not lining up. He's trying to figure out the story line and that the one part that's not clear is when Ray got kicked off
id disagree he takes it very lightly you can even see at the start he ocean dumped him it happens this should have been over by now. then he focuses on things that didnt matter like being kicked off the job didnt matter to ray also comparing himself failing a hack and getting removed the same as mickey kicking ray off a job when hes trying to kill a member of the job and will stop his part in the job to kill that member even if it messes up the plan
Tbh I believe Yuno is trying to stick up for Ray a bit because he senses everyone in the room is on Mickey's side. If everyone was on Ray's side he would have probably stuck up more for Mickey.
Though the reason I believe it seems that way is because Yuno believes that both of them are in the wrong and CB just siding with one party and saying it's the others party's fault just contradicts what Yuno has been saying the whole clip. I feel as if Yuno is trying to make everyone actually take responsibility for their actions and not get away scotch free cause Yuno is right. Yes, the treatment and overstepping of boundaries from Mickey was and is wrong (eventhough that really wasn't what Yuno was pointing out it still really is wrong). But Raymond trying to kill him while also not telling the femily about it without considering their feelings till the aftermath was also super wrong. Honestly I'm not sure what was my point other than I do believe Yuno would side with the other party if everyone was on Raymond's side because they both were in the wrong and need to take accountability.
I dunno. I feel like Mickey isn't going to ever see what he did truly to throw Raymond over the edge, or see the wrong in his actions to a person who told him to stop. It's just not in his Character I think. I feel like Mickey has gone through a character progression and the ego he has now is bigger. Just in a different way than Raymond, where most don't see it. But using it being Egg's job under a guise to do whatever to him with no retaliation is kinda fucked up too. But hey... Raymond is gone now... so who's there to point that out?
Mickey's character should be more in a place than anyone else to understand what Ray is going through. Its almost identical to the reason he left CG - constant ribbing, perception of jokes being taken too far, even if it wasnt isolated to just him.
@@merylsmith8297 yeah but Mickey since leaving CG, had a bit of a "character development." Because the boys accepted him so easily, he became more bold... and being with Buddha, and actually having an input for once... he grew quite the Ego... even though most people won't see it. As Mickey is now... he's equivalent to the CG boys when Mickey was still in CG. He won't see the wrong in what he did, just like the CG boys didn't see the wrong in what they did. The fact that Mickey is doing to Raymond what CG did to him, makes me think he won't recognize it.
Watched rays pov and I totally understand where he's coming from. Everyone keeps say that it was because everyone was picking on him or something but the main point Ray kept bringing up was that it was that mickey could've killed him by knocking him out of the truck and that was really disrespectful. Then when Ray picks mickey up mickey says he's not apologizing for anything they didn't really talk it over. Then mickey does his usual nvl shit Ray got tired of it then shot him. Yuno was right not really trusting everything mickey was saying. Like mickey literally says he doesn't want to die yet he's telling Ray to shot him instead trying to work things out
one it wasnt nvl ray already told him he was gonna kill him at that point mickey can do anything cause ray doesnt give him an out. ie benji being told to jump off a building or they shooting him he takes off wasnt nvl. 2 they do that fire hydrant shit all the time and its not dangerous the car slows momentum when the hydrant is hit and even if it doesnt the mechanic of it happening doesnt shoot him out its mostly upward momentum, but you know what was really deadly was ray shooting 2 people in the car as it drove away
@@Thomas-ux7rz I think being told to kill yourself or they kill you is different from being told to turn around or I'm going to shoot you. Ray was obviously willing to talk about it and if mickey was open to actually trying to rp things out then maybe Ray wouldn't have had to shoot him we'll never know because mickey does this shit all the time. Also your second point is stupid you're looking at it from a point of in game mechanics it's rp dumbass Ray took it as he was pretty much forcefully being thrown out of the car and ditched by his family which he was.
@@GHOSTC19 not from mickeys perspective he tells him hes going to kill him kidnaps him takes him to the ocean and still says hes going to kill him also your not required to do everything someone says when they have a gun to you also its completely valid for mickey to assume as soon as he turns around ray is going to execute him and he wants him to look him in the eyes if hes gonna do it and the 2nd point again they do that shit to each other all the time and hes never acted like that and yeah shooting at people and wounding them that didnt even do it to you is a valid response....
@@Thomas-ux7rz listen it's obvious you didn't watch rays perspective on this for more context and you're pretty much just repeating what yuno said for your second point. Not gonna waste on time on you
The thing that got left out in this is that they left out mickey messing with ray for months and ray told him to stop but he didn't. So ray couldn't get his demands across and mickey disrespecting him and escalated resulted him getting shot. I'm with ray on this one. Yuno the only one who got his back and the entire family literally turned their backs on him. If they can't trust him from now on based on how harry Bjorn Tony and everyone except yuno. Maybe the best thing to do is for ray to be not in cb anymore. Cause a cracked trust couldn't be fully made again.
Mickey purposely left out the messing with ray in months. This whole fiasco started when Ray's last piece of patience just snapped off. And the shooting scene is the end result. He can't have this whole drama queen going on.
@@Kazuma0915 Tony and Mickey left it out. Tony was so biased retelling the story and giving his own opinion during. I'm glad Yuno has compassion which literally everyone but lang has the inability to use. Yes Ray majorly fucked up but Mickey is a piece of shit as well and Mickey is being validated for being as asshole without any pushback
Mickey didnt deny messing with Ray, Yuno already has context for that, and has known about it for a while. They brought it up later in the meeting, and universally agreed Mickey needed to treat Ray better. Dont get me wrong, Mickey definitely is responsible for pushing Ray over the edge. However, Ray didnt just retaliate toward Mickey. He outright threatened to sabotage the entire job just to get back at Mickey, which also hurts Egg, Barry, and Harry. Then he ocean dumped Mickey without saying anything to the rest of the family, which hurts the rest of the family. The rest of the family's distrust of Ray right now has very little to do with Ray actually getting back on Mickey, and much more to do with the complete disregard he showed for everyone else.
@@merylsmith8297 you're right I really hope this parson's arc works out and I hope mickey become a little less petty and realizes that he did damage too but Ray has got to realize he truly fucked up to
@@merylsmith8297 the thing about ray being distracted when it comes to girls is public knowledge. Now when the plan was being discussed ray might know what's happening inside the car. No need to drive the car in a pole just to take his attention now mickey is already on thin ice and him laughing and leaving him on that place is disrespectful. Don't get me wrong family will ness with you but never disrespect you to the point that your patience towards the person runs out. He was told not to do it again cause clearly from the get go he doesn't have Ray's trust. You can't bs a person when he doesn't like you from the get go you need to get the person like you first. But mickey didn't understand common decency, you may be in the family but he doesn't have that full image in Ray's eye. And I know yuno knows that ray doesn't like mickey but the context that was left out was that they already talked to each other ray told mickey to stop or he'll put a bullet in his head. But that fell out on deaf ears tony knew what ray told and so is lang. Now lang warned mickey but not fully to the extent tony thought his kidding now when the patience runs out and the mess happened they shouldn't be shocked especially mickey. Ray is wrong but mickey is not also innocent and the way the family reacted shouldn't be like that they should have been in the middle. Not blame one person and condemn the other person cause both party's has misgivings in the first place.
I really like watching sykkuno pov to understand what he is saying through Yuno, Sykkuno was telling chat everything much better then what he is saying the bois of his understanding of the situation.
Saying Ray should onesidedly just put up and shut up about Mickey constantly trolling him after telling him to back off for a long ass time is kinda meh. If family shouldn't ever hurt each other like how Ray did to Mickey, then shouldn't family know when to back off when somebody's feeling like things are kinda too much? Ray's IC actions were a bit extreme but I really don't think he's THAT much in the wrong here. great rp btw
Same. It's like... Ray said he will still do the job. But he can't see Mickey or he will stop and kill him. Ray was on the phone with kitty before Mickey started talking about the plan. Mickey pushed Ray to the breaking point. And everyone is just like... well RAYMOND YOURE A BAD PERSON! DID RAY DO SOMETHING FUCKED UP? YES but why is everyone focusing on one side of the picture so heavily and ignoring the other?
You are right but it’s just a general human condition that if you do something wrong and aren’t the favorable party in the group, you are the problem. Yuno generally doesn’t let biases cloud perception which is why he’s more understanding. It’s laughable that tony has pretty much shitted on ray thru this whole thing and Leslie brought up that there’s some jealousy and them just latching onto that. No matter what 99% of the time if you are the favorable party to a group (including family) their side holds more weight even if they “poked the bear” essentially
@@BiggWerv I feel like that attitude is also a part of why Raymond as a character is so reluctant to see Mickey as family. Cause he who had been here as CB for so long... is less favourable than a "Gang Deserter" and newer addition, who shits on him continuously. Why would everyone loving someone like that, to him, make him want to accept him. He must seem like a bit of a poison to Romanov... that's just assuming based off Romanov being an unstable quick to kill serious criminal. He's a hard judge of a man
@@jfmusic1671 facts he’s hard to judge but you can’t question loyalty. But they see as starting conflict in the group as questionable to the loyalty to the group even though it’s a 1 on 1 discrepancy
So mickey plays too much when it comes to Ray. Ray needs to get help on taking jokes or brushing it off when it comes to mickey specifically. It's a 2 way street like Yuno said. What happens NEXT is up to Ray, What happens Down the line is up to Mickey. They both gotta work it out.
Still mickey fault in rp. The reason he left cg is because they played too much when it comes to mickey. Ray fault for trying to ruin egg Bank. Mikey fau,fault, for not listening to tony and lang and ray. I lean more on its mickey fault because he was told to back up and stop. If that happens to me after a week when I said stop gloves are out. Also ray picking a phone call. While mickey was very far from the laptop area so he took it to far to fast. He should have waited they never got the laptop in their inventory and more time to talk about the plan later.
I feel like Mickey is the biggest manipulator I've ever seen (just my opinion cause of how he explained things like how he justified ejecting him using a fire hydrant)
Facts ^^ also he’s always right about something he’s always justified in his own mind when clearly in the wrong and when someone points out that he’s wrong. They’re wrong and he tries to sway the argument or discussion in his favor
I feel like Yuno has a fear abandonment. Maybe this why he fixated sooo much on Mickey kicking Ray out of the job... I remember when he had a talk with CG about him hanging out with X and that its bad he said "he rather get ocean dumped and get shot than abandon X" It's also what got him and Ray this family that they have... by literally doing jobs and heist progression.
Everyone here... talking about the drama and shit... and here I am... watching... and realizing the sun sunsetting is showing up on Sykkuno's face at @28:17 LOLLL
bruh it wasn’t even about the job. this was bc of months and months of mickey shitting and disrespecting ray when he MENTIONED the bois and mickey to stop or things would get worse. but everyone ignored him and kept letting mickey mess with him. ray just had enough and he had it coming. so idk why literally everyone is giving their backs on ray lol it’s sad to see.
Tbh I think yuno thought that was the primary reason because they didn’t even describe the major part of what made Ray want to kill Mickey (all the bullying), so really he wasn’t given the right or unbiased information for him to react properly
@@Chloe-xz9ow Especially when Tony had a biased opinion and kept mentioning things and leaving things out (like Raymond's side of things) of the story.
Mickey plays the victim too good, got everyone up in arms against ray. Ray sacrificed for the shelly marriage, ray grinded for dongles all the time in the beginning of 3.0, he hacks, he drives, he shoots, hes polite and wellspoken, he is competitive skill wise, hes 100% loyal. Mickey ran ski shittily, he hacks, and he makes shit plans 80% of the time. People say hes comedic relief but i disagree. Ray is way more cb than mickey Mickey poked the ray bear too much and expected the bear not to claw him. Ray is a murderer, it is what it is.
Now if I praise Mickey's good characters and shit talk Ray, I'm the bad guy. lmao. Let me remind your ass one thing. There is a reason Lang involves Mickey in his business, heist, and drug arc. You're basically shit-talking the whole family for choosing Mickey's side.
@@MGZetta or youre both right and wrong, its 2 sides of the same coin, both did wrong, ray shouldn’t have shot mickey, mickey should have listened to the 2.5million warnings, ray should’ve talked to people before, mickey should’ve talked to ray before, neither are perfect or right in the situation.
@@ComradeHammy Ray has been shooting Mickey and no one gave a big deal about it. Mickey paid the price for his loud mouth, it's funny, move one. But this time Ray took the effort to perma him. I would understand if he ocean dumped him to be more annoying to Mickey but he kept insisting that he wouldn't expect Mickey to survive when he shot him. That's the problem here. I don't give a fuck about Mickey getting clapped by Ray left and right because of his mouth.
@@MGZetta Ray always shot Mickey after politely asking him to stop insulting/trolling wih him and Mickey just starts doing that 10x more everytime he's asked not to!
@@swastik_k that's complete bullshit. lmao. 10x? are yall mental or something? that's too much effort and lies to protect your failing narrative. go watch rays stream where he admits all his wrongs. lol
Hearing mickey changing his story so many times , fell like a maze were every time someone ask him a question , he finds him self end of a corner and to find his way back , he has to take a different path . Changing his pov of many time , he can't ever keep up with what he said.
It kind of sucks that they won't get ray's pov after ray being kicked out for the first time. Ray had already made his mind up, even though they invited him back to the job. I do get where yuno is coming from. He thinks Ray is upset that he was kicked, when Ray was just pissed that Mickey did the fire hydrant thing. I don't think Ray could give two flying fucks about the job.
What’s funny is everyone is saying parsons is like the 9s but he self admitted and can leave whenever he wants to. But it’s definitely frustrating hearing everyone so against Ray when he’s been ride or die for everyone in the family since day 1 - and because Mickey is more “likeable” everyone takes his side and goes against Ray forgetting about everything he’s done for everyone. Lang and Yuno are the only 2 thinking about things logically.
Tony is so dramatic and biased , like if you think, though CB has no leaders and everyone is equal....in IRL who would you believe the most the guy who is from beginning in your family or a guy that is from another family and joined yours.....Mickey got too much importance too much early and Ray earned it . I love Yuno so much that he understands , Really i am so sorry to say this but Nerds, Mickey and Tony are dumb, make it worse even more , they already hate him .
Lol right off the bat tony didn’t give ray a chance and just piled on by saying he could be next. And also pixie plum paled in comparison in counseling ray than Rex. She wasn’t helpful even a little
Kinda sad how quick they all turned on Ray...I know they gave him the chance of therapy and what ever but I think I'd leave... Couldn't be around Micky anyway
Because Yuno was talking and "uhhhh...I dunno guys...I'd be really upset too...he took it too far...mmmm..."-ing the whole time they were trying to explain it to him instead of listening. Yuno as a character had already made up his mind about it a couple minutes in. I think it's very much in line for Yuno IC (this isn't me saying *anything* about sykkuno ooc, pls don't come for me).
@@marauder08 yup. to much acdc and too much focus on talking to chat. sometimes it’s best to ignore chat and just focus on the rp going on around you. he really zeroed in on ray getting booted from the job and was almost ignoring how people kept saying how ray shot at them all, told them he was going to kill mickey no matter what, didn’t care about the job and was going to shoot mickey and jeopardize everything if he was on the job. like who cares if he gets kicked off the job at that point? ray certainly didn’t. he was hunting mickey.
he called kitty to give her a car, she repeatedly said she didn’t want it, everyone told him to get off the phone, egg repeatedly told him to get off the phone, he ignored everyone in the car and dragged out the call with kitty, kitty told him to give it to someone else, ray started talking about who he should give it to with kitty, kitty was like okay go do that, egg is still telling him to get off the phone, mickey drove over a fire hydrant to force him off the phone and ray shot at everyone. he could’ve called kitty after the job but he decided to do it right as they were setting up. how did acdc and sbs turn into all this?
Mickey is not handling this nearly as well as he could be. An ocean dump he survived is kind of different than trolling someone for months on end even when they ask you to chill.
That’s the right take. Mickey IC has been just nasty to Ray. Blau OOC is ridicules Ray on the regular. This is not an IC only issue. Buddha and sykkuno are the only ones with a centrist take here. Mickey started shit, Ray escalated, Mickey really escalated and Ray blew the top off. It started with Mickey, for months both in and about of character and that’s really shitty.
They are making ray look bad but he literally is calling micks bluff the fact the everyone wants to help makes mick look like one of those nerds that knows hes invincible because of his position so he bullies ppl
EXACTLY! This isn't something new... this is something that was built up. Mickey was told to chill. Mickey was told he would be killed. Mickey knew what he was doing. But everyone is like... well it was Egg's job so he should've just let Mickey bully him. Or Well talk to the family (WHICH THEY ALREADY DID but Mickey still drove him to this point by messing with him), or Just take it and let Mickey do whatever he wants. It's like... the way they're going in on Raymond is as if they didn't like him to begin with... considering no one but Lang and Yuno even attempts to look at the bigger picture or understand him. Now they make it seem like he's just straight crazy. I mean... he is crazy in a way, but Raymond as a character is just serious. When he says he will kill someone, he will. And everyone should know that. He didn't act out of character in the slightest Even if what he did was too far
I agree with Yunos opinion but I'm very frustrated at how he only listen to the first half of an answer, ask a question then answer it ooc over the person answering it. It could've been explained much faster if he paid attention. Ik ACDC
Didn't Ray talk to pretty much everyone? all about how Mickey wouldn't leave him alone and pretty much the entire group just basically said feck ray? they're moronic.
From the thought of “killing the fellow family members” Mickey has also indirectly got the family killed on the yacht against CG. Yuno an Buddha high key the only level headed ones there. Mickey kinda has a god complex when it comes to the whole I’m right no matter what everything I do is justified and all that
I feel like people forget that Yuno’s character is fake loyal. Like he never takes sides, even if they’re his boys, because he wants to be everyone’s friend. He literally doesn’t care that it’s Ray vs Mickey, he just chooses the side that other people don’t choose lol
i rewatch this again... now that i listen closely... they really didnt emphasize the one thing that made ray angry. well i mean... obviously, its from mickey's POV, of course he took that lightly and didnt mention much about it. the interrogation that yuno did here, he basically needs to find why ray did it. and it goes round and round and round, we kicked him, we called him, we didnt kick him, its somehow become weird and definitely bias. "i feel like im missing some details here" i mean, he's absolutely right. so ray's fault was, he killed mickey without talking to the family right? welp, he did talk about it in front of everyone right? if mickey treat him like shit again, he will kill him. and everyone's agreed, lang said to not poke the bear. and he still did it, so yea. the consequences happened. then this reason is invalid, because he warned him, and everyone know about it.
Mickey is saying "the family should decide what to do about Ray" but he barely even talks to most of the nerds and probably doesn't even know who some of them are. He's acting like he's more family than Ray, and he's going to leave it to people who also don't know or care about Ray to decide if he gets kicked or killed or forgiven Mickey didn't give Ray a chance to talk it out on the beach, and basically slandered him the whole time. Getting killed in the city is no different to getting knocked out unless you choose to ham up your injuries or perma. Mickey overdoing it and saying he crossed the family line is just asking people to dogpile on Ray. Mickey's not really acting like family either
Mickey telling Yuno he’s wrong and can’t understand Yuno simply has a different opinion how can he ever understand how Ray felt? Also why didn’t Mickey get sent to therapy it’s not like he doesn’t need it. It’s not even just Mickey though cause the entire family besides Lang and Yuno are only mad at Ray and not even trying to consider his feelings and they’re not entertaining the fact that they can both be wrong even though Ray was worse.
If Ray rp that he had died or was seriously hurt when Mickey intentionally hit the fire hydrant causing him to fly out the car, would they gang up on Mickey as hard as they do Ray? Would they question Mickeys careless actions or laugh? Plus, Mickey having the family question Ray's loyalty when Mickey broke his loyalty to CG to go to CB is hilarious to me. This is really good content and rp by the way.
Sykkuno: I’m so confused Also Sykkuno: *Talks to chat about how confused he is whilst everyone is trying to explain the situation so he’s less confused, but Sykunno doesn’t hear the entire thing because he’s too busy telling chat how confused he is* Sykunno to CB: “I’m still so confused” Sykunno to chat whilst Mickey explains the situation: “Oh jesus, chat, i”m still so confused. Did he kick off the job or not.” REPEAT
Mickey has been shitting on Ray for months. Others have talked to him about and he just went too far this time. Are you saying that you can torment and ridicule someone for months and have no responsibility when you break them and they kick the shit out of you?
@@MrBoomatt doesn’t validate the comment that Yuno doesn’t seem to understand what is going on. Yuno only sees “kick out of job = Ray now mad”. And its because Yuno just sees their squabble and Mickey’s bullying of Ray as normal, and is inserting the idea that the job kicking was the main problem.
@@MrBoomatt were you watching? i know about everything else, but clearly Mickey didnt kick Ray out till after they tried getting Ray back in check and asked if he wanted to set up the job. like everything else said i still wouldnt kill family, and make the decision to do so without the others knowing.
Ray shouldn't have done what he did but sometimes I also thought Mickey deserved it.. The guy trolls to much with 0 consideration about people's feelings especially after he got confronted about it multiple times.. Ray has a different kind of humor and sometimes can't take a joke but it doesn't mean that you should go after him because of that.. Mickey should restrain himself way more with his humor.. I'm with Ray in this one..
Idk why they are confuse. Mickey kick Ray after Ray didn't want listen to what his role is and only want to shoot mickey. Just watch if it leak it be from yuno.
Mickey is quite the coward trying to grab anyone to back him up in the conversation. Plus the least he could do it say sorry for hitting the hydrant Raymond took it too far but Mickey didn't take Ray seriously ever so here we are
Yuno's missing the point, they did tell ray to drop it, but ray was being bullheaded about it and wanted to kill mickey mid-job, its just not registering on his head
And you're not registering that Mickey has literally been bullying Ray for months even after Ray told him that if he keeps doing that he will kill him.
@@Joel_M thing is im not talking about the build up to what happened, yuno is for some reason focused on the fact that raymond got "kicked out of the job", when the real issue was the the long term emotional turmoil, yes he is giving ray the benefit of the doubt but over the wrong reason, getting kicked out of the job wasnt even raymonds main reason for his extreme aggression.
@@azulsaint1539 Your initial comment was condemning Yuno over not registering that Ray was the one at fault. You're second comment is expressing Ray's reason for what he did. I don't understand you.
@@Joel_M ill summarize it for you then, yuno is going on his own story without completely understanding the situation, if thats still too hard to understand then i give up.
Its gta rp in the end most of these people are too invested in their own characters just as much as us the viewers. They're humans like the rest of us, the thing I feel like everyone is overlooking is the fact that it takes two to tango. Ray did the worst thing possible, but in reality if he went to the family to talk about this he would've just been ignored and mickey would continue his bantering with ray. While ray is a guy who can't take jokes especially when it comes to mickey, mickey is also someone who can't take things seriously, he always has to have the last word and is very good at pushing peoples buttons. Mickey was taunting ray throughout the whole situation when he was kidnapped, even at gunpoint he didn't value his life at all (he did this before with the yacht incident with cg), because in reality its a game and he knew he wasn't going to perma his character. The thing is as much as this is rp and everyone keeps saying its rp, the truth is they both did things because of their ooc feelings. Because of the actions both of them did in the heat of the moment the family has been broken, and now its gonna have repercussions on not just ic things but also ooc things. While they all might be friends that doesn't mean they are perfect and always going to be happy about another's decision. (for those who don't think either of their streamers showed ooc tendencies just look at how how they both perceived the action of the other. mickeys reaction to ray asking about mickey also being sent to parksons, rays action of constantly being bent on the matter if anything was being done to mickey, and his reaction to finding out mickey seemed to not feel anything on this matter and was living his best life) Nobody cares but my take on this is if this doesn't get resolved it cuts ray off from the family which is something he has become to be super invested ic and occ. Lang will see the fall of his family for the second time, yuno will lose motivation to continue to wake up in the city, im not sure about tony he seemed to just laugh everything off and side with mickey too much to the point where they probably thought the best solution would be for the family to decide to 51-50 ray or kill him (but he might be doing this to not want to see the family fall again), mickey is too invested in playing the victim and being surprised pikachu face about the whole situation and is manipulative. The family, guild, and everyone else involved have opinions on the matter when they don't have the full story without bias so they are just adding more fuel to the fire when its already a crappy situation. Oh also i'm not saying ray is innocent he did the most stupid decision ever and now he is paying the consequences, and he will have to deal with those consequences. While people say he is getting the most lenient punishment people dont understand how much someone's own guilt is way worse then any other form of punishment. You could hear how tired and how much he regretted his decision, while people seem to think his comments about mickey needing parksons (also ray doesn't get what parksons is or how serious it is) and group therapy were way out of line it is the truth. You can't put all the blame on one person and expect there to not be any problems in the future if the root of the problem isn't fixed. Now all we can hope for is this situation gets solved nothing major happens and the bois get back to the casino heist. Or everything happens in rp and whatever the outcome is the bois dont end up having to deal with ooc issues do to this. This is just my take and cause of this lil arc i've come to realize ive become too invested in gta rp to the point where I literally didnt watch anybody yesterday cause I was frustrated with all this drama.
In my opinion tho, Ray not 100% focusing on the Egg's Job instead he's focusing on the car which can be done in any other time. You can say Ray is serious but to me he's not serious about the job. Mickey trying to explain how to execute the plan and at the back, someone was not taking it very seriously and talking something irrelevant to the job. To me, thats disrespectful to the crew, to the person who thought of the plan and to the person's job because if you fucked it up, its other problem and not mine. Yes Mickey can explain his plan anytime and Ray also can deal with the car anytime but you have to know that in that situation, you can tell that job comes first since they are bout to buy the blue laptop and Ray can deal with the car AFTER the job.
@@steviegreenthumb4720 have you seen the clip of the incident? He was only kicked out when he said “no I will be killing Mickey” he was given multiple opportunities to rejoin but he insisted he was going to kill Mickey. It isn’t even Rays point about being kicked off the job. It’s just content goblin mode. I like sykunno but it is what it is.
@@ironized i literally didnt mention him getting kicked off the job im saying yuno is sympathetic to him cause he knows how fucking obnoxious mickey is
If I was kicked from a bank job I wouldn't hack for them anymore. But if CG rob me I'll join the gang and wear the chain. Edit: Sorry I forgot one. I'll also hack the most difficult system there is for them.
"That story made no sense" says the dude who's talking over everyone constantly.and onlymlistening to half the story ^_^ I love how frustrated the others are trying to explain what happened while Yuno isn't listening. Got to love Yuno he is loyal AF!
Yuno did more talking to chat then listen to them explaining to the job.. he was set on the kicking off the job part wen the main reason Mickey kicked him off the job cause Ray said if I see Mickey ima kill him no matter what.. wen they blew him out the truck he wasn’t kicked off the job he wasn’t even interested cause he was focused on a boost so they continued to set the job up and Mickey got berry to call Ray and tell him his part and Ray said he’s going to shoot Mickey if he see him and Mickey didn’t want to mess up Eggs job and said Ray ur off the job… Yuno is soul focused on the job wen that’s not the reason Ray was mad
Yea, the thing is Yuno always busy explain to the chat, and that what make him can't get the full context. And the story isn't fully explain to him either . I think Yuno doesn't really fully understand the whole situation. That why he so set on that Ray was mad and decide to kill Mickey because of getting kick out from the job.
Let me simplify it: yuno is levelheaded so he looks at the situation from both povs. And in the end Mickey consistently ignoring rays “feelings” and kept messing with him even after he asked him to stop multiple times, and yuno backs that up by saying that if your friend is upset at jokes you make, a good friend would just not make those jokes but Mickey continued. As a result, *ray went off and killed Mickey and because that is what is considered the worse action, everyone defends Mickey and they ignore mickeys actions that lead up to this,* which is unfair to ray.
@@hockey9669 that's not what I mean, like ray was told to get off the phone and ignored egg so Micky hit a fire hydrant to bump him out so ray decided to shoot at the car and then hunts for Micky while he&co are setting up eggs job. Has berry call ray and talk with him then ray kidnaps and attempts to kill Micky and yuno only focused down on ray got kicked from the job and thats what started it all even after tony&co explained it to him like 3or 4 times. Like to me it's like how many times do they need to tell him before he understands and realizes it started bc something else and not that ray got kicked of the job. But like I said before it's great arc so far and his perspective/thoughts and views are interesting.
CB sucks at telling story's. Tony said he was kick off of the bank then mickey said he was not kidk off when he was ejected from the trunk then he ask someone to call him when kick him off.
Ray said Yuno would understand, maybe they are more alike than all the others
They know each other for years now like sykuno knows ray from the old rust server. Plus he is also few people who he first met in gta.
Sykkuno doesn’t do serious RP. He is much like Ray where he likes grinding and heisting and the gameplay aspect of nopixel, so of course in Syk’s mind he sees kicking him from the job as a bigger offense when in actually it was the months of bullying that pushed Ray. I mean I appreciate that Sykkuno stood there whole rp conversation but honestly wasn’t surprised by any of his responses.
Yuno is level headed and looks at things from both sides which makes him understand where ray is coming from and why Mickey needs to take more responsibility for what happend
No disrespect to yuno, but you could take a shit in his shoes and he would 'understand'
@@Convoy88 this is true
I’m just waiting for someone to compile the history of ray and Mickey like they did with lang and yuno till this point it should be interesting
Me too
I love that Yuno told mickey in a similar situation he would never hack for him aain thats the most shocking thing of this whole situation lmao
most alpha shit he said
I love when Yuno entered the meeting and completely changed it up and everybody got mad at him, especially other peoples chats because he saw Rays side but the further this arc went on the more I realized Yuno and Buddha were the only level headed people here. Ray shouldn't have done what he set boundries which Mickey pushed every time and the when Ray got fed up and shot him he played the victim card. Yeah Ray was in the wrong but so was Mickey
That’s basically what Ray has been saying all along but time needed to pass for people to realize and get off the hate wagon
@@Tanymami pretty much yeah. Im glad the casino happened when it did because I fee like Mickey was starting to make that shit kinda awkward
Ray went too far but Mickey has never been considerate of people's feelings. Especially Ray's feelings.
That doesn't give someone the right to kill someone. Or else every little brother in the world would have killed his big brother. That's how family is.
@@TKAFTBL IT Happen though irl.. sadly
@@TKAFTBL this type of stuff usually happens irl especially when your jokes went a little to far and the person your telling is not good at taking jokes.
@@Joel_M You don't pick and chose your family. Mickey is CB and that is a fact and it doesn't matter what Ray thinks. You can hate family but you can't make decisions lead by your ego that can hurt the rest of the family.
Yea where yuno is saying it’s a pretty bad one maybe ooc but in reality and rp Rae shooting at the car and hitting the 2 in there and then kidnapping Mikey and killing him is so much more serious then simply kicking someone off a job because your bickering in rp terms
This is also really funny because yuno is looked at as the softest member of the city yet he handles things in the most adult way whereas most of them will jump on any opportunity to play victim. Understanding perspective is the right and harder thing to do but cb and most of the city and people in general won’t take that route because it’s less favorable.
I don’t care to comment on it too often cuz it’s just the world we live in to flame people that do or say anything out of what socially acceptable and “not cool” but this is the perfect situation of everyone who claiming to be family shitting on ray and yuno being like well doesn’t he have a side too, it’s perfectly reasonable to say both sides are wrong but again someone has to be the fall guy
I made that comment before watching the video and 34 mins in really drove this point home 😂
What I believe from what yuno was saying that Mickey took it too far and Ray took it even farther is that they all took part into the situation is one way or another due to escalating it for the longest time. I mean there's so much you can "pick" on someone till they end up breaking and doing something they might regret. From what I'm seeing in the femly is that no one wants to take accountability and wants to put the problem on one single person. That includes everyone.
(Also Mickey is an inside sleeper agent for CG) lol
Mickey's reaction to all of this is perfectly summed up by the surprised Pikachu meme lmao
Well, the shooting part is just a normal dumb shit, but him trying to perma a family is the biggest surprise everyone felt.
This whole thing seem so one-sidedly in favour of Mickey to me.
This isn't something new... this is something that was built up. Mickey was told to chill. Mickey was told he would be killed. Mickey knew what he was doing. Like Mickey left CG for feeling disrespected and always being "bullied" made fun of and the but of the joke, amongst other things... it's not criminal for Raymond to feel the same... and by Mickey of all people.
But everyone is like... well it was Egg's job so he should've just let Mickey bully him. Or Well talk to the family (WHICH THEY ALREADY DID but Mickey still drove him to this point by messing with him), or Just take it and let Mickey do whatever he wants.
It's like... the way they're going in on Raymond is as if they didn't like him to begin with... considering no one but Lang and Yuno even attempts to look at the bigger picture or understand him. He has never even shown something of this kind to anyone else but now they all switch up like he's always been an issue to them. (Minus that thing with tiny, Ray_C said he didn't feel comfortable doing that either) Now they make it seem like he's just straight crazy.
I mean... he is crazy in a way, but Raymond as a character is just serious. When he says he will kill someone, he will. Raymond doesn't banter like everyone else. LANG himself said that's why he chilled on making fun of Ray. And everyone should know that. He didn't act out of character in the slightest.
Even if what he did was too far
Well, I think Mickey developed an inferiority complex during his time with CG, and by the time he came to CB, he found the opportunity to become a bully to Ray.
But ofcourse both of them are in the wrong, but bottom line is, what Lang, Tony and everybody else is saying is that what Ray did is not what CB does. They resolve issues by talking cause if you just shoot willy nilly, it gets really awkward and results to a divide in the family.
@@aintijustthecutest3863 yeah you're right and I understand that. It just feels like even so, it's like no one wants to address the other half of the story.
Even when Mickey came back to the manor and spoke his piece about Raymond... the only person to confront him in any way, was Yuno... OF ALL PEOPLE.
Like... Raymond taking it further than too far... doesn't negate everything that got it TOO FAR in the first place. But no one's addressing that but Lang in his head, and Yuno
There is a reason why the whole family is mad at Ray.
mickey didn't leave cg cause he felt he was being bullied. they tried to make him stop hanging out with his friends and doing jobs with them. also tried to make him kill yuno and cause he didn't, he got kicked as a traitor.
@@nei8302 this hes the bitch boy in so many groups he could def take that i also feel like mickey doesnt do anything different to ray anyone else in cb does he just only gets offended by mickey cause he thinks mickey is inferior and its really victim blaming to be like well he made fun of me so i killed him sounds school shooter sidiing
I hadn't thought this before Sykkuno brought it up, but when Ray said he'd shoot Mickey on the job, that could have been an invitation for some of the rest of the femly to intervene. I think none of them took Ray seriously. Was Ray in the wrong? Definitely. But we're not our best selves when we're in our feels and if the rest of the femly present had any empathy for Ray they might have been able to disarm the situation. Unfortunately, none of the femly present, Mickey included, cared enough about Ray's feelings to pause when he made it clear how he felt. Mickey saying it was for Egg makes it seem like Ray was putting himself first, which is kind of true, but everyone involved put Ray dead last.
Ray only got kicked because he said he would kill Micky even if it meant screwing up the plan. Claiming that kicking him off is the catalyst is just wrong.
@@Wikkr Yeah, he never got kicked out of the car and ignored for 40 minutes. He definetely wanted to kill mickey just to ruin the day for everyone...
YEP
plus after he shot mickey he said he wanted to teach him respect, so Ray have reasons. It's not like he's just insane or something. It's wrong but it's his RP charcater.
THIS. Exactly this, couldn't agree more.
I love how Yuno is growing a back bone with the boys, was a follower for a while being new to RP but he’s making a statement with Mickey XD kinda hilarious.
I mean yuno is right, in a sense after micky rammed the fire hydrant he did leave ray. I know he shot at them understandable every person does that and ray wasn't as angry about the fire hydrant as he was about leaving him behind counting as kicking him out of the job thats why it escalated to an ocean dump
he made it extremely clear that he didn’t care about the job in any way shape or form. instead of listening when the plan was being explained he was on the phone with kitty. she told him multiple times she didn’t want the car he was offering her but he dragged out the phone call. he could’ve called her later but he chose to do it at a bad time when everyone in the car except him was focused on planning. egg told him multiple times to get off the phone and pay attention and he wouldn’t. so mickey drove over the fire hydrant as a joke. ray shot at everyone in the car so they left him behind to cool off. ray didn’t give a shit about the bank job for egg. mickey had barry and harry call him to try and get him back on the job to help with the escape but ray only wanted to hunt and kill mickey. ray said multiple times that if he was on the job, that he would shoot mickey and escape the cops without him. i don’t understand why yuno is zeroing in on ray getting kicked off the job since the only thing ray was willing to do was ruin it. that being said, this rp is spicy. 😊
@delilah8470 because that where the story is not lining up. He's trying to figure out the story line and that the one part that's not clear is when Ray got kicked off
I really like how Yuno talked about this incident. Agreed with him once again.
id disagree he takes it very lightly you can even see at the start he ocean dumped him it happens this should have been over by now. then he focuses on things that didnt matter like being kicked off the job didnt matter to ray also comparing himself failing a hack and getting removed the same as mickey kicking ray off a job when hes trying to kill a member of the job and will stop his part in the job to kill that member even if it messes up the plan
21:35 that line from yuno🥶
Tbh I believe Yuno is trying to stick up for Ray a bit because he senses everyone in the room is on Mickey's side. If everyone was on Ray's side he would have probably stuck up more for Mickey.
Agree
Though the reason I believe it seems that way is because Yuno believes that both of them are in the wrong and CB just siding with one party and saying it's the others party's fault just contradicts what Yuno has been saying the whole clip.
I feel as if Yuno is trying to make everyone actually take responsibility for their actions and not get away scotch free cause Yuno is right. Yes, the treatment and overstepping of boundaries from Mickey was and is wrong (eventhough that really wasn't what Yuno was pointing out it still really is wrong). But Raymond trying to kill him while also not telling the femily about it without considering their feelings till the aftermath was also super wrong.
Honestly I'm not sure what was my point other than I do believe Yuno would side with the other party if everyone was on Raymond's side because they both were in the wrong and need to take accountability.
I dunno. I feel like Mickey isn't going to ever see what he did truly to throw Raymond over the edge, or see the wrong in his actions to a person who told him to stop. It's just not in his Character I think.
I feel like Mickey has gone through a character progression and the ego he has now is bigger. Just in a different way than Raymond, where most don't see it. But using it being Egg's job under a guise to do whatever to him with no retaliation is kinda fucked up too. But hey... Raymond is gone now... so who's there to point that out?
Mickey's character should be more in a place than anyone else to understand what Ray is going through. Its almost identical to the reason he left CG - constant ribbing, perception of jokes being taken too far, even if it wasnt isolated to just him.
@@merylsmith8297 yeah but Mickey since leaving CG, had a bit of a "character development." Because the boys accepted him so easily, he became more bold... and being with Buddha, and actually having an input for once... he grew quite the Ego... even though most people won't see it.
As Mickey is now... he's equivalent to the CG boys when Mickey was still in CG. He won't see the wrong in what he did, just like the CG boys didn't see the wrong in what they did.
The fact that Mickey is doing to Raymond what CG did to him, makes me think he won't recognize it.
Mickey trolling ray is probably like cg trolling mickey in the past. But ray took action instead of leaving
I think this is exactly what is going on.
Watched rays pov and I totally understand where he's coming from. Everyone keeps say that it was because everyone was picking on him or something but the main point Ray kept bringing up was that it was that mickey could've killed him by knocking him out of the truck and that was really disrespectful. Then when Ray picks mickey up mickey says he's not apologizing for anything they didn't really talk it over. Then mickey does his usual nvl shit Ray got tired of it then shot him. Yuno was right not really trusting everything mickey was saying. Like mickey literally says he doesn't want to die yet he's telling Ray to shot him instead trying to work things out
one it wasnt nvl ray already told him he was gonna kill him at that point mickey can do anything cause ray doesnt give him an out. ie benji being told to jump off a building or they shooting him he takes off wasnt nvl. 2 they do that fire hydrant shit all the time and its not dangerous the car slows momentum when the hydrant is hit and even if it doesnt the mechanic of it happening doesnt shoot him out its mostly upward momentum, but you know what was really deadly was ray shooting 2 people in the car as it drove away
@@Thomas-ux7rz I think being told to kill yourself or they kill you is different from being told to turn around or I'm going to shoot you. Ray was obviously willing to talk about it and if mickey was open to actually trying to rp things out then maybe Ray wouldn't have had to shoot him we'll never know because mickey does this shit all the time. Also your second point is stupid you're looking at it from a point of in game mechanics it's rp dumbass Ray took it as he was pretty much forcefully being thrown out of the car and ditched by his family which he was.
@@GHOSTC19 not from mickeys perspective he tells him hes going to kill him kidnaps him takes him to the ocean and still says hes going to kill him also your not required to do everything someone says when they have a gun to you also its completely valid for mickey to assume as soon as he turns around ray is going to execute him and he wants him to look him in the eyes if hes gonna do it and the 2nd point again they do that shit to each other all the time and hes never acted like that and yeah shooting at people and wounding them that didnt even do it to you is a valid response....
@@Thomas-ux7rz listen it's obvious you didn't watch rays perspective on this for more context and you're pretty much just repeating what yuno said for your second point. Not gonna waste on time on you
@@GHOSTC19 i watched his live... and then went through everone elses
The thing that got left out in this is that they left out mickey messing with ray for months and ray told him to stop but he didn't. So ray couldn't get his demands across and mickey disrespecting him and escalated resulted him getting shot. I'm with ray on this one. Yuno the only one who got his back and the entire family literally turned their backs on him. If they can't trust him from now on based on how harry Bjorn Tony and everyone except yuno. Maybe the best thing to do is for ray to be not in cb anymore. Cause a cracked trust couldn't be fully made again.
Mickey purposely left out the messing with ray in months. This whole fiasco started when Ray's last piece of patience just snapped off. And the shooting scene is the end result. He can't have this whole drama queen going on.
@@Kazuma0915 Tony and Mickey left it out. Tony was so biased retelling the story and giving his own opinion during. I'm glad Yuno has compassion which literally everyone but lang has the inability to use. Yes Ray majorly fucked up but Mickey is a piece of shit as well and Mickey is being validated for being as asshole without any pushback
Mickey didnt deny messing with Ray, Yuno already has context for that, and has known about it for a while. They brought it up later in the meeting, and universally agreed Mickey needed to treat Ray better. Dont get me wrong, Mickey definitely is responsible for pushing Ray over the edge. However, Ray didnt just retaliate toward Mickey. He outright threatened to sabotage the entire job just to get back at Mickey, which also hurts Egg, Barry, and Harry. Then he ocean dumped Mickey without saying anything to the rest of the family, which hurts the rest of the family. The rest of the family's distrust of Ray right now has very little to do with Ray actually getting back on Mickey, and much more to do with the complete disregard he showed for everyone else.
@@merylsmith8297 you're right I really hope this parson's arc works out and I hope mickey become a little less petty and realizes that he did damage too but Ray has got to realize he truly fucked up to
@@merylsmith8297 the thing about ray being distracted when it comes to girls is public knowledge. Now when the plan was being discussed ray might know what's happening inside the car. No need to drive the car in a pole just to take his attention now mickey is already on thin ice and him laughing and leaving him on that place is disrespectful. Don't get me wrong family will ness with you but never disrespect you to the point that your patience towards the person runs out. He was told not to do it again cause clearly from the get go he doesn't have Ray's trust. You can't bs a person when he doesn't like you from the get go you need to get the person like you first. But mickey didn't understand common decency, you may be in the family but he doesn't have that full image in Ray's eye. And I know yuno knows that ray doesn't like mickey but the context that was left out was that they already talked to each other ray told mickey to stop or he'll put a bullet in his head. But that fell out on deaf ears tony knew what ray told and so is lang. Now lang warned mickey but not fully to the extent tony thought his kidding now when the patience runs out and the mess happened they shouldn't be shocked especially mickey. Ray is wrong but mickey is not also innocent and the way the family reacted shouldn't be like that they should have been in the middle. Not blame one person and condemn the other person cause both party's has misgivings in the first place.
I really like watching sykkuno pov to understand what he is saying through Yuno, Sykkuno was telling chat everything much better then what he is saying the bois of his understanding of the situation.
Saying Ray should onesidedly just put up and shut up about Mickey constantly trolling him after telling him to back off for a long ass time is kinda meh. If family shouldn't ever hurt each other like how Ray did to Mickey, then shouldn't family know when to back off when somebody's feeling like things are kinda too much? Ray's IC actions were a bit extreme but I really don't think he's THAT much in the wrong here.
great rp btw
Same. It's like...
Ray said he will still do the job. But he can't see Mickey or he will stop and kill him.
Ray was on the phone with kitty before Mickey started talking about the plan.
Mickey pushed Ray to the breaking point.
And everyone is just like... well RAYMOND YOURE A BAD PERSON!
DID RAY DO SOMETHING FUCKED UP? YES but why is everyone focusing on one side of the picture so heavily and ignoring the other?
You are right but it’s just a general human condition that if you do something wrong and aren’t the favorable party in the group, you are the problem. Yuno generally doesn’t let biases cloud perception which is why he’s more understanding.
It’s laughable that tony has pretty much shitted on ray thru this whole thing and Leslie brought up that there’s some jealousy and them just latching onto that. No matter what 99% of the time if you are the favorable party to a group (including family) their side holds more weight even if they “poked the bear” essentially
@@BiggWerv I feel like that attitude is also a part of why Raymond as a character is so reluctant to see Mickey as family.
Cause he who had been here as CB for so long... is less favourable than a "Gang Deserter" and newer addition, who shits on him continuously.
Why would everyone loving someone like that, to him, make him want to accept him. He must seem like a bit of a poison to Romanov... that's just assuming based off Romanov being an unstable quick to kill serious criminal. He's a hard judge of a man
Not THAT much wrong, just tried to kill a family, that's all.
@@jfmusic1671 facts he’s hard to judge but you can’t question loyalty. But they see as starting conflict in the group as questionable to the loyalty to the group even though it’s a 1 on 1 discrepancy
So mickey plays too much when it comes to Ray.
Ray needs to get help on taking jokes or brushing it off when it comes to mickey specifically.
It's a 2 way street like Yuno said.
What happens NEXT is up to Ray,
What happens Down the line is up to Mickey.
They both gotta work it out.
Still mickey fault in rp. The reason he left cg is because they played too much when it comes to mickey. Ray fault for trying to ruin egg Bank. Mikey fau,fault, for not listening to tony and lang and ray. I lean more on its mickey fault because he was told to back up and stop. If that happens to me after a week when I said stop gloves are out. Also ray picking a phone call. While mickey was very far from the laptop area so he took it to far to fast. He should have waited they never got the laptop in their inventory and more time to talk about the plan later.
I feel like Mickey is the biggest manipulator I've ever seen (just my opinion cause of how he explained things like how he justified ejecting him using a fire hydrant)
Facts ^^ also he’s always right about something he’s always justified in his own mind when clearly in the wrong and when someone points out that he’s wrong. They’re wrong and he tries to sway the argument or discussion in his favor
I feel like Yuno has a fear abandonment. Maybe this why he fixated sooo much on Mickey kicking Ray out of the job... I remember when he had a talk with CG about him hanging out with X and that its bad he said "he rather get ocean dumped and get shot than abandon X"
It's also what got him and Ray this family that they have... by literally doing jobs and heist progression.
Tony so biased💀
Yep
he left out a lot of things about what ray said during their talk
True, and it didn't help that he mostly told the story to the people that didn't know yet and made it sound like ray is a monster lol
Didn’t Curtis also left cuz of Tony?
Everyone here... talking about the drama and shit... and here I am... watching... and realizing the sun sunsetting is showing up on Sykkuno's face at @28:17 LOLLL
bruh it wasn’t even about the job. this was bc of months and months of mickey shitting and disrespecting ray when he MENTIONED the bois and mickey to stop or things would get worse. but everyone ignored him and kept letting mickey mess with him. ray just had enough and he had it coming. so idk why literally everyone is giving their backs on ray lol it’s sad to see.
Tbh I think yuno thought that was the primary reason because they didn’t even describe the major part of what made Ray want to kill Mickey (all the bullying), so really he wasn’t given the right or unbiased information for him to react properly
@@Chloe-xz9ow Especially when Tony had a biased opinion and kept mentioning things and leaving things out (like Raymond's side of things) of the story.
Mickey plays the victim too good, got everyone up in arms against ray.
Ray sacrificed for the shelly marriage, ray grinded for dongles all the time in the beginning of 3.0, he hacks, he drives, he shoots, hes polite and wellspoken, he is competitive skill wise, hes 100% loyal.
Mickey ran ski shittily, he hacks, and he makes shit plans 80% of the time. People say hes comedic relief but i disagree.
Ray is way more cb than mickey
Mickey poked the ray bear too much and expected the bear not to claw him. Ray is a murderer, it is what it is.
Now if I praise Mickey's good characters and shit talk Ray, I'm the bad guy. lmao. Let me remind your ass one thing. There is a reason Lang involves Mickey in his business, heist, and drug arc. You're basically shit-talking the whole family for choosing Mickey's side.
@@MGZetta or youre both right and wrong, its 2 sides of the same coin, both did wrong, ray shouldn’t have shot mickey, mickey should have listened to the 2.5million warnings, ray should’ve talked to people before, mickey should’ve talked to ray before, neither are perfect or right in the situation.
@@ComradeHammy Ray has been shooting Mickey and no one gave a big deal about it. Mickey paid the price for his loud mouth, it's funny, move one. But this time Ray took the effort to perma him. I would understand if he ocean dumped him to be more annoying to Mickey but he kept insisting that he wouldn't expect Mickey to survive when he shot him. That's the problem here. I don't give a fuck about Mickey getting clapped by Ray left and right because of his mouth.
@@MGZetta Ray always shot Mickey after politely asking him to stop insulting/trolling wih him and Mickey just starts doing that 10x more everytime he's asked not to!
@@swastik_k that's complete bullshit. lmao. 10x? are yall mental or something? that's too much effort and lies to protect your failing narrative. go watch rays stream where he admits all his wrongs. lol
Hearing mickey changing his story so many times , fell like a maze were every time someone ask him a question , he finds him self end of a corner and to find his way back , he has to take a different path . Changing his pov of many time , he can't ever keep up with what he said.
Gotta love Sykunno keeping it interesting..
Y’all just mad that yuno in ray side
If there was no Lang and Yuno, Ray is beyond fucked. Lol.
Denzel just poofing out of existence in the middle of a cigarette.
Typical CB experience
I dont understand how the BULLY is playing the victim 🤣🤣
It kind of sucks that they won't get ray's pov after ray being kicked out for the first time. Ray had already made his mind up, even though they invited him back to the job.
I do get where yuno is coming from. He thinks Ray is upset that he was kicked, when Ray was just pissed that Mickey did the fire hydrant thing. I don't think Ray could give two flying fucks about the job.
It seems like that one time X kicked Yuno off a job really hurt Sykkuno, since he's so hyperfocused on that point alone.
@@Darklordiban7 I had that same feeling. Banks are important to him, so I can see focusing on that part of the story.
Mickeys changed since the cocaine arc and the admin. Hes got a huge Ego now, they are just as bad as each other. (ofc im talking about characters)
What’s funny is everyone is saying parsons is like the 9s but he self admitted and can leave whenever he wants to.
But it’s definitely frustrating hearing everyone so against Ray when he’s been ride or die for everyone in the family since day 1 - and because Mickey is more “likeable” everyone takes his side and goes against Ray forgetting about everything he’s done for everyone.
Lang and Yuno are the only 2 thinking about things logically.
Tony is so dramatic and biased , like if you think, though CB has no leaders and everyone is equal....in IRL who would you believe the most the guy who is from beginning in your family or a guy that is from another family and joined yours.....Mickey got too much importance too much early and Ray earned it . I love Yuno so much that he understands , Really i am so sorry to say this but Nerds, Mickey and Tony are dumb, make it worse even more , they already hate him .
Lol right off the bat tony didn’t give ray a chance and just piled on by saying he could be next. And also pixie plum paled in comparison in counseling ray than Rex. She wasn’t helpful even a little
Kinda sad how quick they all turned on Ray...I know they gave him the chance of therapy and what ever but I think I'd leave... Couldn't be around Micky anyway
Why nobody explained the story right and have yuno thinking ray did what he did because he got kicked off the job? My head hurt from watching this
Because Yuno was talking and "uhhhh...I dunno guys...I'd be really upset too...he took it too far...mmmm..."-ing the whole time they were trying to explain it to him instead of listening. Yuno as a character had already made up his mind about it a couple minutes in. I think it's very much in line for Yuno IC (this isn't me saying *anything* about sykkuno ooc, pls don't come for me).
@@marauder08 It's crazy the steps we have to take just to let people know that we're talking about the character and not the player. Lol
@@marauder08 ik it was just hurting my brain really bad lol.
@@marauder08 yup. to much acdc and too much focus on talking to chat. sometimes it’s best to ignore chat and just focus on the rp going on around you. he really zeroed in on ray getting booted from the job and was almost ignoring how people kept saying how ray shot at them all, told them he was going to kill mickey no matter what, didn’t care about the job and was going to shoot mickey and jeopardize everything if he was on the job. like who cares if he gets kicked off the job at that point? ray certainly didn’t. he was hunting mickey.
Tony and mickey are gaslighting, yuno is the most based and understanding of them all and Buddha started to recognize that towards the end
Love Yuno and X in this video!
this all started because mickey got mad first over a phone call, that ray explained was about his business
It wasn’t his about his business it was about a a plus boost he wanted to give away
@@teamschroeder8396 i thought he said it was business when he talked to lang and tony
@@teamschroeder8396 it was his business
he called kitty to give her a car, she repeatedly said she didn’t want it, everyone told him to get off the phone, egg repeatedly told him to get off the phone, he ignored everyone in the car and dragged out the call with kitty, kitty told him to give it to someone else, ray started talking about who he should give it to with kitty, kitty was like okay go do that, egg is still telling him to get off the phone, mickey drove over a fire hydrant to force him off the phone and ray shot at everyone. he could’ve called kitty after the job but he decided to do it right as they were setting up. how did acdc and sbs turn into all this?
Mickey is not handling this nearly as well as he could be. An ocean dump he survived is kind of different than trolling someone for months on end even when they ask you to chill.
That’s the right take. Mickey IC has been just nasty to Ray. Blau OOC is ridicules Ray on the regular. This is not an IC only issue. Buddha and sykkuno are the only ones with a centrist take here. Mickey started shit, Ray escalated, Mickey really escalated and Ray blew the top off. It started with Mickey, for months both in and about of character and that’s really shitty.
@@MrBoomatt No
@@CallumAndersonM Yes
Its funny that everything said before the hydrant was a typical CB heist.
Remember when yuno had to choose between two friends living and decided to burn both of them 💀
It gives me anxiety when Sykkuno talks to his chat while other people talk to him
Yuno is the homie fr man😭 he's not wrong mickey didnt call Ray because he doesn't like Ray, he should of never had Barry call a boy/family..
They are making ray look bad but he literally is calling micks bluff the fact the everyone wants to help makes mick look like one of those nerds that knows hes invincible because of his position so he bullies ppl
EXACTLY!
This isn't something new... this is something that was built up. Mickey was told to chill. Mickey was told he would be killed. Mickey knew what he was doing.
But everyone is like... well it was Egg's job so he should've just let Mickey bully him. Or Well talk to the family (WHICH THEY ALREADY DID but Mickey still drove him to this point by messing with him), or Just take it and let Mickey do whatever he wants.
It's like... the way they're going in on Raymond is as if they didn't like him to begin with... considering no one but Lang and Yuno even attempts to look at the bigger picture or understand him. Now they make it seem like he's just straight crazy.
I mean... he is crazy in a way, but Raymond as a character is just serious. When he says he will kill someone, he will. And everyone should know that. He didn't act out of character in the slightest
Even if what he did was too far
@@jfmusic1671 I agreed 100% with this take
@@jfmusic1671 agreed
I agree with Yunos opinion but I'm very frustrated at how he only listen to the first half of an answer, ask a question then answer it ooc over the person answering it. It could've been explained much faster if he paid attention. Ik ACDC
Bully always wins
Didn't Ray talk to pretty much everyone? all about how Mickey wouldn't leave him alone and pretty much the entire group just basically said feck ray?
they're moronic.
From the thought of “killing the fellow family members” Mickey has also indirectly got the family killed on the yacht against CG. Yuno an Buddha high key the only level headed ones there. Mickey kinda has a god complex when it comes to the whole I’m right no matter what everything I do is justified and all that
Mickey deserved it don’t mess with people when they tell you to stop
I feel like people forget that Yuno’s character is fake loyal. Like he never takes sides, even if they’re his boys, because he wants to be everyone’s friend. He literally doesn’t care that it’s Ray vs Mickey, he just chooses the side that other people don’t choose lol
THE TIMING OF THE CALL 👌 🔥 🔥 🔥
Cleanbois RP… 🍿
The way Mickey fucks with Ray is how Jean Paul fucks with him. It all comes full circle
i gotta admit, the repetition in this video mixed with the immense amount of talking over people is making it challenging to finish this
MICKEY AND TONY DONT JUST SHUT UP .....LIKE STOP SOMETIME , LET OTHER SPEAK
i rewatch this again... now that i listen closely... they really didnt emphasize the one thing that made ray angry. well i mean... obviously, its from mickey's POV, of course he took that lightly and didnt mention much about it. the interrogation that yuno did here, he basically needs to find why ray did it.
and it goes round and round and round, we kicked him, we called him, we didnt kick him, its somehow become weird and definitely bias.
"i feel like im missing some details here" i mean, he's absolutely right.
so ray's fault was, he killed mickey without talking to the family right? welp, he did talk about it in front of everyone right? if mickey treat him like shit again, he will kill him. and everyone's agreed, lang said to not poke the bear. and he still did it, so yea. the consequences happened. then this reason is invalid, because he warned him, and everyone know about it.
Mickey is saying "the family should decide what to do about Ray" but he barely even talks to most of the nerds and probably doesn't even know who some of them are.
He's acting like he's more family than Ray, and he's going to leave it to people who also don't know or care about Ray to decide if he gets kicked or killed or forgiven
Mickey didn't give Ray a chance to talk it out on the beach, and basically slandered him the whole time.
Getting killed in the city is no different to getting knocked out unless you choose to ham up your injuries or perma. Mickey overdoing it and saying he crossed the family line is just asking people to dogpile on Ray. Mickey's not really acting like family either
yuno could be a lawyer lmfao
Wow this is really good femly RP I’m for it
Yuno poking holes in mikey's story is so fun to me
I like mikey him tony an budda are the 3 i watch but not liking bully narcissistic mikey
Fact
Same, preachy, over emotional Micky trying to justify himself is a bad look
Im sorry but ray had any right to do it,all of them are bunch of cold killers and robbers
X just came to diffuse the situation 😂
CB: /talking about the drama
Jean: Hey- K bye
Mickey telling Yuno he’s wrong and can’t understand Yuno simply has a different opinion how can he ever understand how Ray felt? Also why didn’t Mickey get sent to therapy it’s not like he doesn’t need it.
It’s not even just Mickey though cause the entire family besides Lang and Yuno are only mad at Ray and not even trying to consider his feelings and they’re not entertaining the fact that they can both be wrong even though Ray was worse.
If Ray rp that he had died or was seriously hurt when Mickey intentionally hit the fire hydrant causing him to fly out the car, would they gang up on Mickey as hard as they do Ray? Would they question Mickeys careless actions or laugh? Plus, Mickey having the family question Ray's loyalty when Mickey broke his loyalty to CG to go to CB is hilarious to me. This is really good content and rp by the way.
Sykkuno: I’m so confused
Also Sykkuno: *Talks to chat about how confused he is whilst everyone is trying to explain the situation so he’s less confused, but Sykunno doesn’t hear the entire thing because he’s too busy telling chat how confused he is*
Sykunno to CB: “I’m still so confused”
Sykunno to chat whilst Mickey explains the situation: “Oh jesus, chat, i”m still so confused. Did he kick off the job or not.”
REPEAT
This is literally my favorite thing about yuno lol
This is my least favorite thing about Sykkuno is.
Why are they having a conversation without ray
Ngl, Yuno kinda not getting that the reason Mickey said what he said because Ray already started shooting. But I do agree both has problems.
Mickey has been shitting on Ray for months. Others have talked to him about and he just went too far this time. Are you saying that you can torment and ridicule someone for months and have no responsibility when you break them and they kick the shit out of you?
@@MrBoomatt Yuno's also completely missing the point that Mickey kicked Ray off the job after Ray said he would shoot Mickey during the job.
@@MrBoomatt doesn’t validate the comment that Yuno doesn’t seem to understand what is going on. Yuno only sees “kick out of job = Ray now mad”. And its because Yuno just sees their squabble and Mickey’s bullying of Ray as normal, and is inserting the idea that the job kicking was the main problem.
@@ToySouljah. no he does.....both were wrong micky took it to far
@@MrBoomatt were you watching? i know about everything else, but clearly Mickey didnt kick Ray out till after they tried getting Ray back in check and asked if he wanted to set up the job. like everything else said i still wouldnt kill family, and make the decision to do so without the others knowing.
Ray shouldn't have done what he did but sometimes I also thought Mickey deserved it.. The guy trolls to much with 0 consideration about people's feelings especially after he got confronted about it multiple times.. Ray has a different kind of humor and sometimes can't take a joke but it doesn't mean that you should go after him because of that.. Mickey should restrain himself way more with his humor.. I'm with Ray in this one..
Idk why they are confuse. Mickey kick Ray after Ray didn't want listen to what his role is and only want to shoot mickey. Just watch if it leak it be from yuno.
Mickey is quite the coward trying to grab anyone to back him up in the conversation. Plus the least he could do it say sorry for hitting the hydrant Raymond took it too far but Mickey didn't take Ray seriously ever so here we are
What If this stuff kept going on & Yuno fully joined CG, just opinion
I like sykkuno but I wish he could be quiet sometimes half of the convo from others I couldn’t hear because he kept repeating himself
Maybe watch from other people’s perspective then?
@@gamonwillsaveus I usually do but they aren’t always uploaded and until someone else finishes streaming I can’t watch the vod
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@@magnadelusor4249 Then wait for it.
Huh stupid viewer, can't diffrenciate between yuno and sykkuno
3:05
He didn’t even ask 🤣🤣
Now this is kinda unrelated, but what would happen if CG found out about what happened with Dundee and Yuno a while ago.. Y'know the mines and stuff.-
Yuno's missing the point, they did tell ray to drop it, but ray was being bullheaded about it and wanted to kill mickey mid-job, its just not registering on his head
He did micky's the one that kept messing with ray
And you're not registering that Mickey has literally been bullying Ray for months even after Ray told him that if he keeps doing that he will kill him.
@@Joel_M thing is im not talking about the build up to what happened, yuno is for some reason focused on the fact that raymond got "kicked out of the job", when the real issue was the the long term emotional turmoil, yes he is giving ray the benefit of the doubt but over the wrong reason, getting kicked out of the job wasnt even raymonds main reason for his extreme aggression.
@@azulsaint1539 Your initial comment was condemning Yuno over not registering that Ray was the one at fault. You're second comment is expressing Ray's reason for what he did. I don't understand you.
@@Joel_M ill summarize it for you then, yuno is going on his own story without completely understanding the situation, if thats still too hard to understand then i give up.
It’s like a movie
Its gta rp in the end most of these people are too invested in their own characters just as much as us the viewers. They're humans like the rest of us, the thing I feel like everyone is overlooking is the fact that it takes two to tango. Ray did the worst thing possible, but in reality if he went to the family to talk about this he would've just been ignored and mickey would continue his bantering with ray. While ray is a guy who can't take jokes especially when it comes to mickey, mickey is also someone who can't take things seriously, he always has to have the last word and is very good at pushing peoples buttons. Mickey was taunting ray throughout the whole situation when he was kidnapped, even at gunpoint he didn't value his life at all (he did this before with the yacht incident with cg), because in reality its a game and he knew he wasn't going to perma his character. The thing is as much as this is rp and everyone keeps saying its rp, the truth is they both did things because of their ooc feelings. Because of the actions both of them did in the heat of the moment the family has been broken, and now its gonna have repercussions on not just ic things but also ooc things. While they all might be friends that doesn't mean they are perfect and always going to be happy about another's decision.
(for those who don't think either of their streamers showed ooc tendencies just look at how how they both perceived the action of the other. mickeys reaction to ray asking about mickey also being sent to parksons, rays action of constantly being bent on the matter if anything was being done to mickey, and his reaction to finding out mickey seemed to not feel anything on this matter and was living his best life)
Nobody cares but my take on this is if this doesn't get resolved it cuts ray off from the family which is something he has become to be super invested ic and occ. Lang will see the fall of his family for the second time, yuno will lose motivation to continue to wake up in the city, im not sure about tony he seemed to just laugh everything off and side with mickey too much to the point where they probably thought the best solution would be for the family to decide to 51-50 ray or kill him (but he might be doing this to not want to see the family fall again), mickey is too invested in playing the victim and being surprised pikachu face about the whole situation and is manipulative. The family, guild, and everyone else involved have opinions on the matter when they don't have the full story without bias so they are just adding more fuel to the fire when its already a crappy situation. Oh also i'm not saying ray is innocent he did the most stupid decision ever and now he is paying the consequences, and he will have to deal with those consequences. While people say he is getting the most lenient punishment people dont understand how much someone's own guilt is way worse then any other form of punishment. You could hear how tired and how much he regretted his decision, while people seem to think his comments about mickey needing parksons (also ray doesn't get what parksons is or how serious it is) and group therapy were way out of line it is the truth. You can't put all the blame on one person and expect there to not be any problems in the future if the root of the problem isn't fixed.
Now all we can hope for is this situation gets solved nothing major happens and the bois get back to the casino heist. Or everything happens in rp and whatever the outcome is the bois dont end up having to deal with ooc issues do to this.
This is just my take and cause of this lil arc i've come to realize ive become too invested in gta rp to the point where I literally didnt watch anybody yesterday cause I was frustrated with all this drama.
In my opinion tho, Ray not 100% focusing on the Egg's Job instead he's focusing on the car which can be done in any other time. You can say Ray is serious but to me he's not serious about the job. Mickey trying to explain how to execute the plan and at the back, someone was not taking it very seriously and talking something irrelevant to the job. To me, thats disrespectful to the crew, to the person who thought of the plan and to the person's job because if you fucked it up, its other problem and not mine.
Yes Mickey can explain his plan anytime and Ray also can deal with the car anytime but you have to know that in that situation, you can tell that job comes first since they are bout to buy the blue laptop and Ray can deal with the car AFTER the job.
Sykkunos argument about being kicked off the bank job makes no sense, ray already wanted to kill mickey before he pulled him off the job
tony did a shitty job explaining it
It’s such a content goblin take from Sykunno.
He didn’t even listen to Mickey say he tried to talk to him about it…
Except not really cause he knows how fuckin annoyed rays been getting for months of mickey being annoying af to him
@@steviegreenthumb4720 have you seen the clip of the incident? He was only kicked out when he said “no I will be killing Mickey” he was given multiple opportunities to rejoin but he insisted he was going to kill Mickey.
It isn’t even Rays point about being kicked off the job.
It’s just content goblin mode. I like sykunno but it is what it is.
@@ironized yes ive seen the clips, no that doesnt change what I said.
@@ironized i literally didnt mention him getting kicked off the job im saying yuno is sympathetic to him cause he knows how fucking obnoxious mickey is
@@steviegreenthumb4720 I agreed with this take... No hate to the streamer...
Yuno can't compare himself to Ray he'd never be kicked for threatening to kill someone on a job 🤣
If I was kicked from a bank job I wouldn't hack for them anymore. But if CG rob me I'll join the gang and wear the chain. Edit: Sorry I forgot one. I'll also hack the most difficult system there is for them.
then there is cg who kills each other all the time KEKW
yuno is so invested in the "mickey kicking ray out in the job"
Yeah, he kinda based it on him since jobs is what got him the family that he has right now
I dont think yuno understands why he was kicked off the job
Kicking him off the job aint even that bad if u dont wanna pay attention ur out like theres no discussion
Love yunos take, hate that Mickey can't see any other pov. Though I guess getting dusted does that too you.
"That story made no sense" says the dude who's talking over everyone constantly.and onlymlistening to half the story ^_^
I love how frustrated the others are trying to explain what happened while Yuno isn't listening. Got to love Yuno he is loyal AF!
That’s our yuno
i wonder if yuno will ever fall off his fence
Micky couldn't shut up, thats what he gets
Yuno did more talking to chat then listen to them explaining to the job.. he was set on the kicking off the job part wen the main reason Mickey kicked him off the job cause Ray said if I see Mickey ima kill him no matter what.. wen they blew him out the truck he wasn’t kicked off the job he wasn’t even interested cause he was focused on a boost so they continued to set the job up and Mickey got berry to call Ray and tell him his part and Ray said he’s going to shoot Mickey if he see him and Mickey didn’t want to mess up Eggs job and said Ray ur off the job… Yuno is soul focused on the job wen that’s not the reason Ray was mad
Yea, the thing is Yuno always busy explain to the chat, and that what make him can't get the full context. And the story isn't fully explain to him either .
I think Yuno doesn't really fully understand the whole situation. That why he so set on that Ray was mad and decide to kill Mickey because of getting kick out from the job.
Love the arc, don't understand yuno's thought on it and his understanding of this is terrible but can make for interesting rp
Let me simplify it: yuno is levelheaded so he looks at the situation from both povs. And in the end Mickey consistently ignoring rays “feelings” and kept messing with him even after he asked him to stop multiple times, and yuno backs that up by saying that if your friend is upset at jokes you make, a good friend would just not make those jokes but Mickey continued. As a result, *ray went off and killed Mickey and because that is what is considered the worse action, everyone defends Mickey and they ignore mickeys actions that lead up to this,* which is unfair to ray.
@@hockey9669 that's not what I mean, like ray was told to get off the phone and ignored egg so Micky hit a fire hydrant to bump him out so ray decided to shoot at the car and then hunts for Micky while he&co are setting up eggs job. Has berry call ray and talk with him then ray kidnaps and attempts to kill Micky and yuno only focused down on ray got kicked from the job and thats what started it all even after tony&co explained it to him like 3or 4 times.
Like to me it's like how many times do they need to tell him before he understands and realizes it started bc something else and not that ray got kicked of the job.
But like I said before it's great arc so far and his perspective/thoughts and views are interesting.
Yuno the only person besides lang in this room being reasonable tbh
@@steviegreenthumb4720 how is killing people ever reasonable?
@@icanspelle6050 Yuno didn't kill anyone?
CB sucks at telling story's. Tony said he was kick off of the bank then mickey said he was not kidk off when he was ejected from the trunk then he ask someone to call him when kick him off.
Mickey is literally the petty God and Ray hates it lmao🤣🤣
Yuno was trying so hard to defend him respectable but kinda nonsensical
Not nonsensical at all, he's not trying to defend he is trying to understand both pov's, thats why he also talked with Ray.
nah he was right on most point except that the job did not really matter