THE NEWS: Rachael Gordon's brutal accusations against Ace, Gene and Paul
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One thing is really clear.....this chick is trying really hard to avoid actually getting a job and supporting herself.....WOW.
THIS. What a gold digger.
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@@dashcan8479 one of her johns?
@@susanmenn5016 lol
@@susanmenn5016 No her legal representative. Who are you? provide your email. You are slandering my client and myself. Want to come out of the YT shadow and face the courts? Yes or no?
Ok, if Rachel knew all of this *before* Ace left her, why didn’t she leave Ace? Just another gold digger trying to make a quick buck.
Its not that easy to leave someone with that much money, which means influence and power, and an addict who exhibits erratic behavior. Its called fear.
But go ahead and keep dragging your knuckles
She is mad at Ace now because when she first started this shit she was just blaming Gene for sexual harassment while ACE was with her. Ace called her out as a liar and now she is trying this shit.
Paul Daniel Frehley strangled her and threw a hunting knife at her and he threw her on the street. YOU have no idea what is going on, she had no where to go. Update - Lawsuit is filed.
@@dashcan8479 Goof ??!! Settle the fuck down there 'Rob C'.
Rob C allegedly. You also sound like a cheese ball with the tough guy talk on a TH-cam comment thread.
Of course she's going to lie she's pissed because Ace dumped her she has no career
That is just bleeding obvious mate. Put any human into that situation and a high percent will go into that freefall survival mode. Hope she makes it to 50. she's cute.
Lesson to be learned, never ever tell your darkest secrets to your girlfriend. She will become your Ex-girlfriend later on and spill the beans about you.
Ace is not a teenager since 1965 or something
Yep. She spilling those beans alright
Gene wouldn't put a hit out on some one , he would just sue them
@dan facts lol I'm surprised this comment didn't get more likes. So hilarious and true. I don't buy any of it.
And hit cost money. Kiss is about making money.
Exactly, you can't get money from a dead person
Want to hear Aces threats to me?
👏👏👏
She's nuts. She's the typical you kicked me out, I'll destroy your life kinda girl. I'm excited to see how this turns out. I mean she didn't know Ace when he was with Kiss.
Nailed it!
She didn't know Ace when he was in KISS but presumably she's relating stories he told her about his time in the band.
shared a few tweets with her like 7 years ago. she got in a twitter fight with Gordon something,forgot his last name.
yOU are nobody
Rob c why are you defending this nutjob on each and every comment? You sound fcking delusional in the skull pal.
She also said yesterday that I quote "During the taping of the Paul Lynne Halloween Special, Ace opened a door looking for a bathroom but actually caught Gene & Paul in a 3way with that witch lady from Wizard of Oz" I knew when she said that , she was discredited at best
Good one👍👍
Rachael is the only real witch in the story.
That Witch was hot! Great post my friend. You made my day.
She is just nuts plain and simple
Actually it should be "bitches be crazy"
She better have evidence and a very good lawyer, she’s slinging a lot of what could be considered slanderous. Personally, I think she’s a bitter woman.
John Phillips (1) If anything she said is untrue, it’s absolutely slander. (2) She doesn’t have a pot to piss in, so she can’t afford a lawyer. If she is sued and forced to pay damages, she doesn’t have a pot to piss in. (3) The only thing she has going for her is that previous courts have held that celebrities and other people in the public limelight don’t have the same expectation of privacy as ordinary citizens. In other words, you can say all kinds of lies and make outlandish accusations against celebrities and politicians and it will likely stand. If the press makes the false statements, it’s even harder to sue. You’d have to sue and prove emotional harm and/or loss of business income due to the false statements. It’s extremely hard for a celebrity or politician to win these types of cases in court.
My assessment is that she’s a fucking jilted nut case. Legit nut case who is undoubtedly on meds. If she’s broke, obviously Ace was supporting her. If what she said is true and they are such terrible things, why did she wait until when she’s broke to bring them up?? She had years to say something. This whole thing smells like she’s looking for hush money from Paul, Gene, and Ace to go away. Honestly, she sounds like she’s got deep psychiatric problems.
One thing that is interesting is that we know Bill Aucoin was likely a pedophile. Paul actually mentioned in his book that during one of the Australian tours he noticed a number of partially clothed underage teens in Bill Aucoin’s hotel room. Funny that Paul waited until after Aucoin was dead to say anything. As far as Gene/child porn is concerned, yes, there was a search warrant executed at his house/on his computer 5 years ago. I think it’s telling that Gene was never charged. LAPD stated that they believe a contractor used Gene’s computer. In fact, Gene wasn’t even in town at the time of the crime. LAPD also stated that Gene and his family weren’t suspects.
Anything regarding Gene sleeping with anything with a pulse, gotta be true, lol
She won't be sued because she doesn't have anything to take.
@@TH-cam.Algorithmic.Nonsense THE FAMILIES of Ace, Paul & Gene can sue the living crap out of her!
@@monicajean37 Did you even read my comment? It's pointless to pursue litigation against anyone who doesn't have a dime, which is exactly the case with this nut Gordon. Yes, you can win a judgment in court and once she does have some assets you can start garnishments and ordering asset sales, but she can always file for bankruptcy and she will receive some protection. How do you think OJ was able to retain some assets after he lost a wrongful death civil suit? Every attorney will tell you that if you are going to sue it has to be worth it. Before you even go to court, you've lost money in attorney's fees. Because Gordon is flat ass broke and has been supported forever, she's just looking for a quick payoff to shut up and go away. Unfortunately it's legal extortion and it happens a lot.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
She’s just pissed because Ace dumped her and she lost her meal ticket.
After a judge DENIED Gordon’s request for a restraining order against Ace, Gordon said, “I have a lot of power right now that I can work with and plan to work with.” That should say it all. She wants money to go away.
Come out of the shadows. Clear slandering Internet troll
I’m thinking this is mostly coming from an angry jealous ex girlfriend. I mean I find a lot of it hard to believe , and sounds like she’s trying to get them to pay her to keep her mouth shut because even lies can ruin a life , especially a life of a rock star or actor/actress. Just my opinion on it.
She's after MONEY, no doubt.
Jealous of what?
@@dashcan8479 Ace’s new girlfriend
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@@dashcan8479 oh Rob I’ve got much more to contribute than that. Your little crush on Rachael has blinded you and made you angry. I’ve checked your comment history...you sound like an angry, sad little man. Perhaps you should find a woman who could realistically be in a relationship with you. I don’t think you’re Rachael’s type...
Well, I think Carl Sagan put it best when he said "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Not saying it's not true, but I won't believe it until the evidence matches the claim.
@@karinations2009 It's the only way to be sure.
Thank you Shane for the first intelligent reply
Vanessa Hooper Cheers. Thanks Vanessa.
Would you say she's "out on the streets for a living"?
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@@SilverStingray1974 Got you under their thumb..
So I'm supposed to believe that on multiple occasions Ace woke up from a bender to find Paul servicing him, and yet did nothing to prevent it happening again after the first time. Either she's lying, or Ace was ok with it. No way that happens to a straight guy and he doesn't throw punches.
😂
I'd heard that rumour twisted around saying it was Ace blowing Peter too
I heard that ace serviced Peter criss... these stories are all over the place
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The accusations are so over exaggerated and slanderous I have to agree they do sound like they are coming from a scorned woman like everyone is saying
What New York bench did Ace find this wretched hot mess?
Exactly!
She sure is talking a lot of crap if all these people have "Hits" out on her.
Even if that sexual stuff is true about Ace it’s no body’s business! That was between them when they were together and she is wrong for sharing that with the world.
Paul was always a fruity lad 😅. Peter is the only one who seems open about how messed up he was.
Paul is camp on stage, but think about it - if he was gay he’d embrace it. It’s Paul Stanley, he’d do it out of pride or for publicity at least.
@@DrewPeabawsI think Paul wound definitely NOT embrace it at all - he has a HUGE ego
@@richhope3043i guess but he could’ve pulled a david bowie, he had a big ego and was pretty open about who he liked
I believe it because they were taking young guys backstage in the 80's
Proving once again, do not get involved with pretty girls, women, dancers that are crazy. Beauty is only skin deep and Crazy is only good for one thing, trouble.
Wisdom for the ages
They are all crazy.
The first time I seen this chick was with ace at an awards show and something told me she was trouble. I was right
That’s exactly what I thought when I first saw him with her. She gives off MAJOR psycho vibes!
Well she’s definitely a space cadet. Other than Ace having a hairpiece, none of this really adds up.
Gene and Ace shared rooms on tour in the early days. That was when separate rooms weren't in the budget. Ace said Gene used to hock boogies on the floor and Ace would get up in the middle of the night to take a leak and wind up stepping in them. In my opinion, most of what she's saying is bullshit. I think she's hurt and lashing out and this is her way.
I figured she was full of it. I see slander charges against her in the near future. Hope she’s ready for that.
*loogies
In the book "KISS: Behind The Mask", Gene talks about the time he had to save Ace from drowning in the bathtub. If the truth were known, it'd probably be more than that one time, the point is, you're right, Gene and Ace did room together.
@@starchild1957 according to Paul Stanley's book he
(Paul) sometimes roomed with Ace and other times with Peter.
Nah. How can she expect people to believe her when clearly most of it are just "bitter ex girlfriend" accusations and saying ace's new girlfriend is a man?? Wtf at least have some credibility smh
That’s funny the new girlfriend bore two beautiful children 🤦🏻♀️
@@DMSProduktions ella no es un hombre, es fisicoculturista, simple
What if Ace was lying when he told her he was a pathological liar?
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Damn I guess Pete really was the coolest one
he was definitely a guy who put up with little bullshit
There is a huge possibility that Ace was talking her different shit to amuse her, not necessary the truth:)
Lol that's what I was thinking too, like he thought she would be able to tell that his outlandishly silly stories are BS but instead she took it seriously. Maybe he took it a step further and when she was like "oh yeah right" he'd then say "no I'm dead serious lolz" just to really fuck with her. I can see him doing that. I wonder if he knew she would go blabbering when they inevitably split, so he intentionally told her a load of crap in hopes that she would repeat it and look like a fool, therefore losing all credibility. Smart move.. evil, yes, but its a master manipulation tactic.
Rachael is human and obviously has mental health issues, I feel bad for her honestly especially how kiss fans have dragged her mercilessly.
As much as I love Ace we can't pretend he's perfect or completely innocent in this. He's also a human being like the rest of us. We all have demons and have our moments.
I JUST GOT DONE watching video where ACE said that it was Gene and he that roomed together in the old days - even saved his life a couple times when he passed out in the tub.
Yeah but on Paul's book he says him and ace shared a room in the old days especially when he says ace takes a shit while he was in the shower, I watch kiss videos too much lol
@@starlinyn9292 yes they did. Apparently in the "double-up on rooms days" Paul and Gene were never roommates but both roomed on occasion with Peter and on on other occasions with Ace. At least, this is stated in both Paul's book and Ace's book. So...the Kiss roommate arrangements were thus: Paul/Ace and Gene/ Peter; or Paul/Peter and Gene/Ace. Of course after all proverbial hell broke loose each gentleman got his own hotel room!
This woman has always been known to be crazy. Now she's a woman scorned and and even crazier. Oy!
I believe every word. That is how people are at those high levels.
Think about THIS:
Before it was public knowledge
no chick or anyone for any reason, being pissed at Paul or whatever,
came forward "exposing" his ear deformity. That's impressive.
And kind of remarkable
He always covered the ear with hair!
@@louisemcbride8681....or wigs!!!
Or non-disclosure agreements..
It doesn't mean she's lying it doesn't mean she telling the truth i'd say its probably alot of both
I'm inclined to believe these allegations as false. For one, it's too late in the game for any of these proclamations to be true. All the guys in Kiss have always been openly sexual. But to suggest incest and child molestation and castration would've been discovered early on their careers.
Way to many people just dismiss claims like this womans, because they think she is crazy, They think she is digging for money, or desperate or whatever the hell they believe. But in reality this woman is speaking 99% facts. 1% of what she speaks most likely cross the line of non facts. I don't get into all the lawyer BS, because that's what it is BS.
She was smokin hot back in the day. Ace had it made. Crazy story though. I think she made most of this up out of revenge. I'm sure some of it is real though.
We’re getting into Heather Mills territory here.
At least she didn't have any brutal accusations against Sammy Hagar
Some of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard wouldn't you think way more ppl would have knowledge of these things if they were true?!
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Hold on a minute. You go to the Proctologist twice a year? TWICE!??
You SURE you don't like it??🤣🤣🤣
I think its suspicious that gene had to make a point that he always asked if girls were over 18. Riiiight.
Poor Ace man, finally got clean, living his best life, and now he’s gotta deal with her
Ace had some "peter" according to Peter's book. Mark St John was a creeper too. Maybe she confused this, the Mark St John and Bill Aucion stories with others in the band?
Those are some crazy stories. But it's hearsay. I don't doubt for second that they were all into some weird shit because practically every song lyric was sexual. Paul acts very feminine. Ace I think acts at times a little fey. These guys are from New York and nothing is really shocking. New York city in the 70s, from what people say, was a cesspool. I mean you have to ask why would someone as young and attractive be with someone who looks like Ace? He's famous and he has money. Whereas she has no money.
- It's a miracle Ace is still alive on his own. I don't think it would have been hard to assassinate him. I don't buy all this "They TRIED to kill him." stuff.
- As for the underage stuff, doesn't look good for the writer of _Christine Sixteen_ and the writer of _Dolls_ .
- I could easily imagine a drunk Ace going off about Jews like Mel Gibson did. Classic KISS seemed like the Jews vs. the Addicts.
Well, in the 70's and even 1/2 of the 80's, 16 was the legal age; not 18.
The rumor about Paul has been around for years that his niece was his daughter
@Abe Froman Yes, he thanks the mother on his solo album, Victoria Medlin.
If the list came out with one or two of these stories it might be more believable. It seems a little more unbelievable the longer the list gets. You can hide a couple of demons in your past but you're not going to get away with everything they have been accused of for their entire life.
The interviewer was all about the Paul Stanley and nurse accusations lmao
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Maybe she can stay with Spongebob. Ralph you always have me rolling, Thanks man!!
Dude, you're hilarious, I'd love to hear you deliver all the news
Thank you!
I'll bet Gordon Gebert is laughing his ass off right now
Why?
this was the best sponge bob episode EVER!
I believe the stories about Paul. I always thought he was a wee bit "suspect" image wise. I wonder if Paul and Vinnie were roommates on tour.
Complete BS !
Lydia Criss Ace is a great guy ( laughs ) . . . I'm amazed he can remember anything from 1976 to 1990.
Paul confirms this . . . and repeatedly . . . has brought up the 1983 Connecticut trip I.e. where Paul tried to talk Ace out of leaving the band.
Ace could NOT remember something that important that literally ended up costing him millions.
Suddenly Ace can remember detailed Mafia hits . . . Cmon, give me a break.
All of a sudden everyone forgets the rock &roll world wasn't full of foul behavior SMH . humans treated like gods can you imagine the limits they would push and then get away with it .
The scary thing is, is that most of this is probably true!
Didnt you hear? Rachel named her birth control spongebob after Bruce Kulick's brother bob. ... 🤣
Hey now. Bob was proud of his work with Spongebob and Motorhead.
SOMEBODY REMOVES THAT INTERVIEW JUST TODAY.
THAT'S SHOWS A LOT!!!
You would have it removed too, if it concerned your group, regardless of whether or not any of it is true. Thankfully for KISS, Rachael is not really very good at selling her stories.
I was Lmfao at her brutal sour grapes, What a Space Cookie....Ack!
The wrath of a scorned woman...
I highly believe all of this.
Alot of this checks out based on Kisstory.
Paul Stanley has been in the closet his whole life; Gene Simmons is a chauvinist freak and 100% the kind of guy who would've had a bungalow on Epsteins island. Ace was literally out of his mind for over 30 years so all bets are off on that guy nothing would suprise me what this band has seen, facilitated, and participated in. I can't believe how many people in the comments are throwing this chick under the bus, the decades of pictures and interviews have always said it all.
People get caught up in hero worship and can't stand to admit someone whose music or movies or writing they like could be a total piece of shit. I feel this is because ina decent person believing it now makes you feel a bit guilty about continuing to support them. Of course you can separate talent from person for some things, but in some cases it gets to be too much.
Anyone surprised that Gene Simmons could be anything has something wrong with them, he is truly one of the most arrogant, amoral, and greedy human beings who has ever lived. Paul being gay or bi is meaningless to me, a person's sexuality is what it is as long as you're not hurting anyone, but like Rob Halford at one point there was a persona to keep up. Ace I have no pity for. I do sympathize with addiction, its a tough thing, but when you have the money and assets and connections these people have my pity begins to fade, there comes a point where even addiction is a choice
Paul being gay or whatever has never been but people saying it.never has any proof of this been publicized or anything.one thing is a fact is he has been an outstanding father to his kids and his ex wife and current wife talk nothing but good of him.if it’s true that shit would have been out years ago and I don’t even like the guy.i don’t believe most of what this chick is saying but very little of it might be true very little
Never been even a hint gene did anything with anyone underage plain and simple. No prove no crime columbo
@@aaronjohnson3463 I'm sure every one of the thousands of groupies he banged were asked for ID right? Someone should subpena his famous photo album and take a look. Guys is a piece of trash and its amazing the way people defend someone who wouldn't so much as talk to you without charging you a $100. I worked a show at a club in Providence a few years ago when Simmons was there with whatever losers he was playing with and he stopped in the middle of playing to start arguing with someone in the crowd and trying to pick a fight with him. Guy is trash.
You made me laugh at the end with the hands on your shoulders.
WTF sounds like Rachel needs money so she will say whatever will sell each too their own? 😈😂lol
"I'll tell you what! I ain't ever going back to that dentist!" 😮
LOOK TO THE LEFT AND COUGH!
Sounds about average for Rock Stars, now the shit Motley Crue did was on another level of sickness and depravity.
If shes homeless now with no family or suport she was probably the same when he met her.
Or she got a big head and burned all her bridges and now getting what shes got coming.
I can't stop crying at some of these stories.....I'm laughing my ass off.
Yeah, and Ralph is a great youtuber...I've actually put him in my will.
I am from Pakistan and I do not understand your wording. Is your ass really coming off of your body? Is it painful?
" He had both hands on my shoulders"
Awesome stuff
Don't even know if I can listen. Gene is a pervert, but if a woman won't accept him, he knows there are 20 more in line behind her. Oh my God.
11:07 Cue in Austin Powers - “She’s a MAN Baby, yeah!” 😬
I think Paul is the one who busted Jani Lanes cheeks. It's all starting to make sense.
Gene and Paul haven't been near a hit since Ace left the band.
Did Ace at least wait until he busted before knocking out Paul?
She is saying too much outrageous stuff to all be true IMO. She should have picked one with the most "proof" (Gene and Epstein-?) and left the rest for another time.
Ok have her prove everything in a court of law.She is just bitter that Ace dumped her ass & why would she stay with him for years if this is all true?.
She's hotter than Spongebob.
She said Ace hates black people, but I know for a fact Ace is a huge Jimi Hendrix fan, so there are holes in her story.
You know shes full of it because she isn't releasing this "antisemitic rant" audio.
Its like saying "I've got evidence, but i'm choosing not to release it".
Look here's the thing. i will believe Gene and Paul before i will anyone else PEROID !!!!
Let’s do the math…..
One wildly indulgent narcissist
One flamboyant “straight” guy
One manager that Paul said that he caught their long time manager partying and sleeping with teenage (under 18) boys. The fact he was immediately reported to the police or at least fired says it all.
It adds up.
This is obviously just a very desperate woman.
Ace is on his knees, Ace is beggin please! He wants a rocket ride, he wants a rocket ride!😂😂
Let’s see now.. Ace’s new album is out tomorrow.. I’m listening to my copy right now. He just signed a three record deal with his label.. and he has a hot ass new girlfriend that makes nutcase Gordon look like an old granny. So I would say.. she’s pissed and jealous as fuck. And she’s nuts.
I can believe that the KISS guys messed with underage people, I can believe that Ace and Paul are both bi, I can believe that Ace is racist.. HOWEVER, all of this extra shit.. 1) WHY would Ace still be trying to hang onto Gene and Paul if they tried to kill him? 2) “I’ve had girls killed and made it look like a suicide” Paul dated a woman in the 70s who committed suicide after they broke up and people on KISS fan forums have speculated that he might’ve had something to do with it but there’s no evidence that I’ve seen. I think she’s just been looking at forums for too long. 3) Weirdos on KISS fan forums have also randomly brought up Paul’s niece, Erica. Once again it just sounds like Rachael has been reading too many weird posts on KISS fan forums to me. 4) The wife that she says was killed by Steven Tyler got a divorce from him in the 80s and she passed away in 2002. Didn’t she say it was his *wife* not ex. 5) I love that she said all of this shit then said that Ace was a pathological liar.
Look, I’m not saying that any of these men are perfect but alleging murder and incest? Jesus. Wouldn’t you go to the cops with all of this info instead of trying to get money off of the stories?
I can verify the Ace having a daughter with the groupie story. She got paid one million dollars in a settlement. She called her kid her million dollar baby.
Why do all Ace's girl friends run their mouths
Ace has said many times that he roomed with Gene, not Paul, while on tour
Dont blame Ace for that, Paul is gay
She should just start an ONLY FANS page lol
with VV
@@DMSProduktions Are you kidding? She's beautiful, like a blow-up sex doll!
Every documentary I've ever watched Ace said he and gene roomed together. And Paul and Peter did.
Bo L.
Ace wrote it in his book too.
I would be confusing to put both pauls in the same room. Im not sure what they called ace, does he still go by paul or is now ace
I like how he told people who won't like this to go watch spongebob lol
Restraining order thrown out 🤷.
Exactly 👍🏽
Lara is a beautiful talented. Woman a mother of two not a man.
My era of youth was in the 1970’s. I was a neighbor to the up and coming band Aerosmith. Those boys did party, were crazy and full of non ending drama. I did go to one house party and that life was not for me. But if there are endless supply of drugs, alcohol and condoms party on. Crazy Nights could mean a lot more to KISS than we think. Ha Ha. IDK but I am not questioning her story but my question flat out to her it was that bad why did you stay. She needs to answer that. I was into free love generation but not being a groupie and I did get my share of fun and wasting of my youth and traveled to some awesome places at the time. Good that we did not have social media back then because all my escapades 50 years later would still be there for all the world to view and judge. No, home free, I can look like the sweetest grandma married for 45 years ever. As in this story there is a little truth, a little lies and a whole exaggerations because you know the truth is that as we age our memories are not really that accurate. The important thing to know here is that back in the 1970’s we had a totally different environment and culture we were living in. Things would would seem strange today were not that strange to us at the time. I was from NY close to the city the same time KISS started and it was totally different way of life. the music scene back then was incredible.
Goddamn, Ace is into fucking crazies.
And the doctor said to the patient getting the prostate exam..."that's not my finger".
I'm not 100% sure but isn't there a "duty to report" when you find something like that on someone's computer? Seems like if she found what she said she found on Ace's computer and didn't report it then she's in trouble too.
SpongeBob brought me here..🤣
hahaha
😂😂😂😂😂
hell
hath no fury
like that of a
woman scorned.
That pretty much says it all
Best day in Ace’s life was leaving her.
She appears to be a bitter woman was dumped and is very desperate.
I don't think offering her a platform would be smart on your part. I would steer clear of this person.
Who knows if she is lying or not... but the lyrics to some of Kiss' songs might hang them in the court of public opinion... Christine Sixteen might make people believe that what some of she says has some truth in it... or the line in Goin Blind... "I'm 93 and you're sixteen." Gene has said that Kiss songs are a sexual diary... What's funny is I saw a video recently where Gene is singing Christine Sixteen and towards the end he yells out... "She was 16 and I was 17." So someone has warned him... and I have begun to hear people say Christine Sixteen is a creepy song that celebrates Pedophila, not saying it does or doesn't, just saying it gives credence to some of what she is saying.
They are just bullshit song lyrics
Sounds like a TV drama. She says anything and everything to get her 15 minutes of fame.