What I like about these is the modularity - it may not do everything the best but the open deck and rail systems allow you to creek fish one day, open lake the next day, then go duck hunting the third.
Weight capacity on the Pursuit is 500lbs and it’s 35” wide. I think the Hobie is 32” w capacity of 450lbs. The new Unlimited has a weight capacity of at least 650lbs, length 12’6”, 41” wide. You can actually stand up and fish a clear deck from bow to stern. Still a real paddle kayak however but you can also add a XI3 MotoGuide bow mount trolling motor w remote and stern gas outboard together to fish and go wherever you want to get too - best part everything is plug & play so it literally takes only a couple minutes to remove all pedal or power options and easily go out w just paddles. Awesome awesome awesome - every tournament fishing option sold you can easily add to their standard tracks - MADE IN AMERICA. I was also a Hobie guy and just about peed my pants when I saw one of their Frontier 12 kayaks w a Honda Outboard, bow troller, black box, dashboard, casting bar... and in retirement just became a NuCanoe dealer.
Great video Nate. Peter from Delta Marine needs to get you in a Nucanoe Unlimited for a video. Same pedal drive, awesome seat, multiple blank offs for all wiring, over 20'ft of T track for numerous accessories, motor in the front, motor in the back, etc. Preferably a video in some current. Let's Go!
Man I’ve been in the unlimited and although I do love the open layout of the kayak itself, I’m not a big fan of the drive at all. Something just doesn’t feel right about it
You’ll have to be conscious while reversing in the marsh, that drive has NO give in that direction. Grass wrapping prop is a great point! Does the drive have some sort of guard on the shaft for getting shallow and maybe not fully vertical, I understand it has give, but still would propel if not not fully vertical.
Brother thank you for taking me with you to do a quick test on this NUCANOE Kayak Out. I got to say that is a nice kayak man. All the things this kayak was doing that your Hobie cannot do sounds like a winner to me. I can agree with you about Kayaking barefooted 👣 man. With my extremely very wide feet i am forced to kayak barefooted 👣 & I do agree with you those pedals would have to go. I have heard people say they change out those type of pedals for smoother pedal. When you tested it out to go fishing maybe you can try wearing your flip-flops and see what it feels like then or switch them out for a smoother pedal. That's awesome that you got a buddy who's trying to help you with your kayak situation. Good video brother.
I'm not hating Nucanoe but I disagree with your description of the turning capability of the Hobie outback. I have a 2019 model with turbo fins and from a dead standstill I can get it turning in 3 quick pumps on the pedals, even in windy chop. I have not tried a prop drive kayak but I would assume the pedaling motion of the Hobie Mirage drive is much easier on the legs than the bicycle motion on the prop drive... and I have heard that it is in fact easier. I'm guessing the Hobie Revolution 13 would be faster than the Pursuit.
You will find you you move a little closer to the pedal tower the jerkiness will disappear you're too far from the pedal tower when you pedal your legs go almost straight at the furthest reach you should still have a slight Bend in your knees I have the pursuit with the pivot drive and I fish it in all saltwater bays and marshes in Texas and I love it of course there's no kayak that's going to cover all bases and bl100 in every area that little slight things that could be better but honestly I like it moving the pedal tower closer you can do that but only to a certain extent it has to be no less than an inch I believe are inch and a half from the end of the tracks on the top section of the kayak the tracks so you can't bring it all away close to you cuz it'll bring it to close to you and the drive cable might get disengage that's where you move your seat closer to the pedal tower.
Great video! How does the bicycle pedal feel vs. the push-pull action of the fin drives? I am also curious, as someone else mentioned, about the grass situation with the prop at the rear of the boat instead of right in front of you.
My question too I have a prop drive kayak Perception Pliot and have a problem with it getting line or grass winding around the drive with the one i have its no problem clearing it how do you clear one with the drive in the rear like that. Of course, my other kayak is a PA14 with a 360 drive.
.. what about surf launching offshore ocean fishing.. i have heard nucanoe .. doesnt have enough scuppers and has issues in the surf.. you fish in the gulf on your PA .. will you be comfortable in this out there? really when i tried an old towne.. pdl drive 132.. 2400.00 .. paddles fine.. streamlined and goes faster then hobies as well and is 400 less and I have taken it out off the surf in the atlantic, that jerky spinning cable is very noticeable in the video.
I’m not getting rid of my Hobie, just demoing and giving my opinion on the boat. It’s a solid kayak though and I could see myself having one in addition to my PA but I’ll need to test it a little more.
I really want the new ‘unlimited’ model. I would love to put the pivot drive on it as well, it just seems a tad overpriced to me. I think $800 would be a better price but it’s almost $1300. That is way high for me.
I agree... but it's so damn versatile, tandem, single, paddle, pedal, gps front mount trolling motor, back mount motor, it fills the role of about five different yaks. $699 for bow mounted GPS troll plus battery. What's the Old Town autopilot run? $3800? Buy the yak - paddle it for a year or two. Upgrade later on. Looks attractive to me. On the other hand, you can buy cheap and try to resell later. I'm on the side of buying American and avoiding waste so the versatility appeals to me. Buy once cry once.
I got one on my F12, you can pull the prop up with the retract cord and reverse it off. One time I had a piece get in-between the prop and the rudder, if you use a crate it would be harder but I use a fishing backpack and I move that in front of the pedals and just turn my seat around kneel down at the stern and pull a pin and you can lift the rudder out and clear it. Did it with my trolling line once too.
Should be interesting ,, on to the video ,, right off the bat ,, I don't like that loose cable running to the to the rudder or the canoe shape to the front ,, kinda takes a lot of your space away from it or seems to anyway ,, your a big guy ,, so you have to figure that into it but it seems like it needs to be a bit wider ,, How about mounting places for a depth finder if you wanted to use one ,, how about the quality of the foot pedal ,, that was a big issue on the Hobie you had ,,
Lol 2800 for this boat? It is nice man, but goodness gracious. You can buy other pedal drives for this amount or less and have extra. These prices are getting ridiculous, 2hat about changing the game and maybe these companies could produce some budget friendly pedal fishing kayaks. Cheapest one is around 1600
@@southernsalt yes my opinion but there is a reason you don’t see very many of these out.. the pivot drive is sub par and needs refinement and plenty other people have mentioned that not just me. I get you’re trying to push a product but again in many eyes besides mine it’s not worth that much, thanks
I’m absolutely in no way pushing a product. I get no kickback from them or anyone else affiliated with NuCanoe, but there is a significant amount of value in a kayak that can have the drive removed and still be enjoyed as a paddle kayak. If you’re strictly a tournament angler or someone that goes offshore then certainly $2,800 is a bad value, however if you’re someone who occasionally fishes but also enjoys camping and paddling around lakes $2,800 is a great value for what you’re getting in this kayak. It all just depends on the person and what their plans are for the kayak.
@@southernsalt I mean to your point.. a lot of pedal yaks can be paddled great and have way more features than this yak, just bc you paid a arm and a leg for a barge (hobie pa) which is a great yak but definitely not a paddling boat, that is on you but comparing this to other yaks in the price range with a drive just won’t work bc they are nowhere close to the same value for money or quality and will never be top sellers bc people realize that.. people get them and sell them or don’t buy them at all after testing them. So if I was only hunting then one of the nucanoes might be ok but still not worth that much for a crap drive that you can’t push at any limits bc it gets jerky and starts to move around on you is completely unacceptable for that price. Actually take it out and test it and then tell me how you think bc your mind will change almost undoubtedly. Im not trying to argue with you at all, but it’s not worth that much in a lot of peoples eyes not just mine.
What’s “sub par” about it? Can you be specific? I’ve seen Pursuits with a pivot drive outrun most other kayaks when peddled at a casual pace without trying to push it.
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What I like about these is the modularity - it may not do everything the best but the open deck and rail systems allow you to creek fish one day, open lake the next day, then go duck hunting the third.
Weight capacity on the Pursuit is 500lbs and it’s 35” wide. I think the Hobie is 32” w capacity of 450lbs. The new Unlimited has a weight capacity of at least 650lbs, length 12’6”, 41” wide. You can actually stand up and fish a clear deck from bow to stern.
Still a real paddle kayak however but you can also add a XI3 MotoGuide bow mount trolling motor w remote and stern gas outboard together to fish and go wherever you want to get too - best part everything is plug & play so it literally takes only a couple minutes to remove all pedal or power options and easily go out w just paddles. Awesome awesome awesome - every tournament fishing option sold you can easily add to their standard tracks - MADE IN AMERICA. I was also a Hobie guy and just about peed my pants when I saw one of their Frontier 12 kayaks w a Honda Outboard, bow troller, black box, dashboard, casting bar... and in retirement just became a NuCanoe dealer.
Great points I’m looking forward to putting her to the test in the marsh!
32"? My Outback is 34", the PA12 is 36" & the PA14 is 38.
Great video Nate.
Peter from Delta Marine needs to get you in a Nucanoe Unlimited for a video. Same pedal drive, awesome seat, multiple blank offs for all wiring, over 20'ft of T track for numerous accessories, motor in the front, motor in the back, etc. Preferably a video in some current. Let's Go!
Man I’ve been in the unlimited and although I do love the open layout of the kayak itself, I’m not a big fan of the drive at all. Something just doesn’t feel right about it
That is a very nice kayak. Can't wait to see ya fish in it.
I’m ready to see what it’ll do in the marsh, looking forward to it!
Hope u go fishing soon.
You’ll have to be conscious while reversing in the marsh, that drive has NO give in that direction. Grass wrapping prop is a great point!
Does the drive have some sort of guard on the shaft for getting shallow and maybe not fully vertical, I understand it has give, but still would propel if not not fully vertical.
Brother thank you for taking me with you to do a quick test on this NUCANOE Kayak Out. I got to say that is a nice kayak man. All the things this kayak was doing that your Hobie cannot do sounds like a winner to me. I can agree with you about Kayaking barefooted 👣 man. With my extremely very wide feet i am forced to kayak barefooted 👣 & I do agree with you those pedals would have to go. I have heard people say they change out those type of pedals for smoother pedal. When you tested it out to go fishing maybe you can try wearing your flip-flops and see what it feels like then or switch them out for a smoother pedal. That's awesome that you got a buddy who's trying to help you with your kayak situation. Good video brother.
Thanks Mack! Peter told me the same thing, that a lot of people swap those pedals out for something smoother.
Great review! Very interesting drive. What is the ratio between full pedal revolution and the prop? Thank you
Not sure on that. I do know the drive system on that kayak doesn’t work well for my style of fishing
When does the fishing video release????
In the next few weeks.
Love to get it down under mate?
Did you ever do a fishing video in this???
I'm not hating Nucanoe but I disagree with your description of the turning capability of the Hobie outback. I have a 2019 model with turbo fins and from a dead standstill I can get it turning in 3 quick pumps on the pedals, even in windy chop. I have not tried a prop drive kayak but I would assume the pedaling motion of the Hobie Mirage drive is much easier on the legs than the bicycle motion on the prop drive... and I have heard that it is in fact easier. I'm guessing the Hobie Revolution 13 would be faster than the Pursuit.
So, it was hard to tell from the video, but was the belt drive slipping? It almost looked like it.
The belt wasn’t slipping.
You know ain’t nothing better then hobie
Besides the prices lol I can get two of these with the pivot for the same price as the pa14 360
You will find you you move a little closer to the pedal tower the jerkiness will disappear you're too far from the pedal tower when you pedal your legs go almost straight at the furthest reach you should still have a slight Bend in your knees I have the pursuit with the pivot drive and I fish it in all saltwater bays and marshes in Texas and I love it of course there's no kayak that's going to cover all bases and bl100 in every area that little slight things that could be better but honestly I like it moving the pedal tower closer you can do that but only to a certain extent it has to be no less than an inch I believe are inch and a half from the end of the tracks on the top section of the kayak the tracks so you can't bring it all away close to you cuz it'll bring it to close to you and the drive cable might get disengage that's where you move your seat closer to the pedal tower.
Great video! How does the bicycle pedal feel vs. the push-pull action of the fin drives? I am also curious, as someone else mentioned, about the grass situation with the prop at the rear of the boat instead of right in front of you.
I’ll find out more on the grass situation with the pedals, I’ll know more after I test it out on a fishing trip.
My question too I have a prop drive kayak Perception Pliot and have a problem with it getting line or grass winding around the drive with the one i have its no problem clearing it how do you clear one with the drive in the rear like that. Of course, my other kayak is a PA14 with a 360 drive.
.. what about surf launching offshore ocean fishing.. i have heard nucanoe .. doesnt have enough scuppers and has issues in the surf.. you fish in the gulf on your PA .. will you be comfortable in this out there? really when i tried an old towne.. pdl drive 132.. 2400.00 .. paddles fine.. streamlined and goes faster then hobies as well and is 400 less and I have taken it out off the surf in the atlantic, that jerky spinning cable is very noticeable in the video.
I’m not getting rid of my Hobie, just demoing and giving my opinion on the boat. It’s a solid kayak though and I could see myself having one in addition to my PA but I’ll need to test it a little more.
I really want the new ‘unlimited’ model. I would love to put the pivot drive on it as well, it just seems a tad overpriced to me. I think $800 would be a better price but it’s almost $1300. That is way high for me.
I agree... but it's so damn versatile, tandem, single, paddle, pedal, gps front mount trolling motor, back mount motor, it fills the role of about five different yaks. $699 for bow mounted GPS troll plus battery. What's the Old Town autopilot run? $3800? Buy the yak - paddle it for a year or two. Upgrade later on. Looks attractive to me. On the other hand, you can buy cheap and try to resell later. I'm on the side of buying American and avoiding waste so the versatility appeals to me. Buy once cry once.
@@lexwaldez Yep, I ended up ordering one with a pivot drive. Should be here in a week or two. 👍
What’s your height and weight?
5’11” 280
How does it handle weeds
Don’t know, never tried it but I’m assuming not well
Ok catching fish in that boat will be the ultimate test
I agree there. I’ll be taking out soon.
Needs a hybrid drive like an electric bike. THAT would be something!
That would be cool
Old town just came out with that
Good video man, I like the simple lay out. Looks like a marsh machine.
Thanks brother! I’m ready to test it for sure!
Nucanoe needs to make 2 or 3 prop options
what about when the prop fills up with grass? 🤷🏻♂️
That’s a good point, I’m going to have to test it to find out.
I got one on my F12, you can pull the prop up with the retract cord and reverse it off. One time I had a piece get in-between the prop and the rudder, if you use a crate it would be harder but I use a fishing backpack and I move that in front of the pedals and just turn my seat around kneel down at the stern and pull a pin and you can lift the rudder out and clear it. Did it with my trolling line once too.
$10 and you can swap in some barefoot bicycle pedals... prolly worth it in the summer.
Hey man how did you like this kayak?
I liked it but I still need to test it while fishing.
@@southernsalt I am looking at their new unlimited now and really like it, may go with the bow mount motor set up
Yeah it’s a nice looking setup.
Man, $2800? You need to check out a kaku zulu or voodoo. Zulu has a peddle drive and the voodoo paddles just fine
One down fall I see is that if the prop gets tangled in grass, how do you get it off if the drive is all the way in the back.
Not sure I haven’t tested it in marsh reach out to Peter he should be able to help you with that question.
Should be interesting ,, on to the video ,, right off the bat ,, I don't like that loose cable running to the to the rudder or the canoe shape to the front ,, kinda takes a lot of your space away from it or seems to anyway ,, your a big guy ,, so you have to figure that into it but it seems like it needs to be a bit wider ,, How about mounting places for a depth finder if you wanted to use one ,, how about the quality of the foot pedal ,, that was a big issue on the Hobie you had ,,
Lol 2800 for this boat? It is nice man, but goodness gracious. You can buy other pedal drives for this amount or less and have extra. These prices are getting ridiculous, 2hat about changing the game and maybe these companies could produce some budget friendly pedal fishing kayaks. Cheapest one is around 1600
Yeah I agree, definitely better options available for less money. I actually did a review of a $1200 kayak and posted it here on TH-cam.
I am glad he took that dam covid mask off that almost made me quit watching...
Same here. Absolutely ridiculous.
Get a grip on yourself!
@@cr8244 lol, okay bud
@@cr8244 I think he is the one who needed to get a grip...
I kinda like that but storage up front looks small but might be a good second kayak for my son and better half
Yeah I think it would be a great secondary not going to replace my PA but I see a lot of value in it.
now the price is over 4000 ridiculous
Drive looks "jerky".
Almost like there is a dead spot.
It only looks jerky because there's no resistance in the pedals, I got one on my frontier and it's like peddling a bike with no chain on it
Like the boat , not the drive.
I think I’ll have to agreed with you there.
@@southernsalt Man, I’ve got one on order. What exactly don’t you like? I need to know.
"incredible price" ughh it's pretty average price for a pedal drive kayak.
Not worth 2800, there are way better yaks for that price with better drives
There are several things about this kayak that make it worth $2800. The value is up to the consumer not just your opinion
@@southernsalt yes my opinion but there is a reason you don’t see very many of these out.. the pivot drive is sub par and needs refinement and plenty other people have mentioned that not just me. I get you’re trying to push a product but again in many eyes besides mine it’s not worth that much, thanks
I’m absolutely in no way pushing a product. I get no kickback from them or anyone else affiliated with NuCanoe, but there is a significant amount of value in a kayak that can have the drive removed and still be enjoyed as a paddle kayak. If you’re strictly a tournament angler or someone that goes offshore then certainly $2,800 is a bad value, however if you’re someone who occasionally fishes but also enjoys camping and paddling around lakes $2,800 is a great value for what you’re getting in this kayak. It all just depends on the person and what their plans are for the kayak.
@@southernsalt I mean to your point.. a lot of pedal yaks can be paddled great and have way more features than this yak, just bc you paid a arm and a leg for a barge (hobie pa) which is a great yak but definitely not a paddling boat, that is on you but comparing this to other yaks in the price range with a drive just won’t work bc they are nowhere close to the same value for money or quality and will never be top sellers bc people realize that.. people get them and sell them or don’t buy them at all after testing them. So if I was only hunting then one of the nucanoes might be ok but still not worth that much for a crap drive that you can’t push at any limits bc it gets jerky and starts to move around on you is completely unacceptable for that price. Actually take it out and test it and then tell me how you think bc your mind will change almost undoubtedly. Im not trying to argue with you at all, but it’s not worth that much in a lot of peoples eyes not just mine.
What’s “sub par” about it? Can you be specific? I’ve seen Pursuits with a pivot drive outrun most other kayaks when peddled at a casual pace without trying to push it.