The Only Foreign Aircraft Carrier We Can Land On
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I filmed this video in 2016 when my squadron spent a day aboard France's only aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle (R91). Although I didn't get a chance to do any flying on or off the ship, I was fortunate enough to be given full access to their flight deck and allowed to film while we conducted joint flight operations.
Also, in this video I mispronounce the name of the French fighter jets. They are Dassault Rafales and are pronounced “Ra-fal,” not “Raphael” like the teenage mutant ninja turtle or the Italian painter! Rafale means “gust of wind” or “burst of fire” (in a more military sense). And I can’t edit the audio and re-do the voiceover, but I wish I could, ha!
I have nothing but respect and admiration for the French Sailors we met that day - they were very welcoming and beyond professional.
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I saw a video of French fighter planes landing and taking off from a US carrier about a year ago. Nice to see the allies working together.
Because only France and USA have this capability
@@ommsterlitz1805 The UK also have a carrier. I believe Japan and South Korea are also building their own carriers.
@@LancerX916 the difference is only the french and american ones have catapults and arresting wires
The Uk don't have nuclear powered aircraft carrier and cannot be at sea more than a few months a nuclear powered aircraft carrier can be forever at sea until it runs out of food for the people and the excess power of the nuclear reactor make life aboard much more pleasant with no restriction of electricity and the steam of the reactor is what propulse the aircrafts off the deck too@@LancerX916
Yes I was deployed last year and the French flew out to our carrier and trapped launched from us. We did the same with their carrier.
Another fun fact is that this is the only nuclear aircraft carrier in the world that is not in the US Navy!
Great footage Rob!!
Yay VRC-40! :D ( I was in VAW-120 and VAW-124) My giant VAW-120 Plane Captain patch is proudly framed and hanging on the wall :)
Another fact: wrong.
@@pclairoot please elaborate
@@pclairoot I think he is right. I thought like you first, but after looking online, if Russia and China algo have Nuclear Navy (which includes Nucl. Submarines and Cruisers), it seems they do not use nuclear propulsion for their Aircraft Carriers.
I can be wrong of course but that is what I read online.
China is planning to build one, untilk then he is indeed right@@DrMusca
I'm glad to know that France has a capable aircraft carrier.
That French helicopter is an Alouette III. Been a pax in one many many times . A 64 yo old design that’s still in service in some countries but slowly dying away. It was a noisy beast that converted a lot of AVTUR into noise .
AND IT WAS GLORIOUS!
Lived in south Paris under a main helo flight path. Gazelle and Alouettes all day. Any major event and it was near traffic jam…
Helo at night… something bad going on…
Excellent visibility. Has been used for decades in mountain rescue.
That was very cool!! I bet they are like the Canuks and give their sailors a ration of beer every day. Nice CPO quarters to
I'm South African and we used Alouette's for light transport and gunship with a side firing 20mm canon.
Code name = "Pedro" in SAR perpetual mission around Charles de Gaulle.
So refreshing when you read no french bashing. Apparently, the professionals are paying some respect to us.
I guess people here have some knowledge on the history of military operations, and therefore they know better. Very refreshing indeed, many thanks from a proud French lad !
I wonder if they serve french fries or "freedom fries" on US ships 🤣
The French Naval air arm is very respectable. Back in the 70's, they flew F-8 Crusaders. Also, I had a cruise roommate who did an exchange tour with the French Navy. He spoke fluent Francais (grew up in Paris) and was a terrific pilot and promoter of Anglo-French partnership.
On Forrestal, we used to have a machine in the galley that made "French fries" out of dehydrated potato flakes. Not the best but not bad either. @@phiksit
Americans love a good nuclear aircraft carrier. Big guns and launching airplanes.
Currently the only operators of CATOBAR carriers are the US and France. This is why their naval aircraft can inter-operate catapulted from each other’s carriers.
Nuclear powered catobar, the last Chinese one is Catobar too. But not yet in service
@@khaelamensha3624 correction they "say" they have one coming
Couldn't you land on a Russian carrier? Getting off no, but land?
In fact only the E2 or C2 family and the rafale can land on the CDG. US fighter can’t actually. But that will change with the PANG project : the new generation french plane carrier.
@@victor6814 US F18 had land and take off the CDG too in the past, but it's rare because France only got one small cvn when US have a dozen large deck.
The fighter is “ Ra-fall” (Gust of wind ). Raphael is a teenage mutant ninja turtle :) Or the painter he’s named for :). And indeed only France and the USA can inter operate Catobar style takeoff and landing aircraft :) and I’d dare say since CDG is the smallest it might have to be said it required the greatest skill :) but that’s for you to say !
So many Americans say Raphael instead of Rafale, it's wierd.
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@@Major.Alvega Probably because so many grew up watching Teenage Mutant turtle things, not speaking French, Canadians on the other hand 😁
simple wikipedia search can answer those queries! LOL
@@Major.Alvega and Ekcetera when there is no K in there and LAtin is clearly ET Cetera.. (The brits do this aswell)
Hell yeah! America!..... and France! LOL! That got me. 😄 So great to see how the U.S. and France operate together smoothly! Thanks very much for sharing!
lol thanks man! I laughed out loud almost every time I was editing the video and played through that section 🤣
I bursted out laughing when I heard that, too 😂 The stereotypes of Americans and French people are so far apart, but it was great that all worked together for an interesting task.
@@rnzoli perfectly said!
I'm a frenchman and I support this comment. :)
we have operated together smoothly long time before... in Chesapeake for the Yorktown Victory! 😉
The French Navy uses the E-2 Hawkeye too. So they're familiar with such larger planes on aircraft carriers
Yeah, we could see the nose of one right at the end.
I believe there was a French squadron stationed on a US carrier in the past few years. A great way to cross train and familiarize yourself with allied systems, ships and aircraft.
Eh the French naval aviation is tied to the hip to the USN. USN train French Navy aviators in Mississippi for carrier ops. When a US carrier groups sails into the Mediterranean, French Navy pilots will often be allowed to conduct landings to keep their skills up while the carrier group transits. They also use a chopped down US Navy steam catapult on the CDG. The USN has a nation to nation contract to maintain the catapult and the CDG always sails with 1-2 USN technicians to maintain the catapults. The new French carrier is planned to use EMALs.
Yeah, thanks for Yorktown
Could be for joint trainings but also if the CDG is in maintenance and pilots need operational time.
USS George H. W. Bush was the carrier.
@@zeitgeistx5239 So they are going to build another soon? I know that a big problem the French have is maintaining deck landing qualifications while their carrier is in maintenance, since they only have one carrier. That is the primary reason why that French squadron was sailing with the American carrier. The CDG was in dry dock for an extended maintenance period.
Vive la France! Thanks for your hospitality, MN de Gaulle!
not to sidetrack but for old guys it harkens back to days past when we landed French F-8 Crusaders on our US carrier. The interoperability is so cool. btw...both the Foche and Clemenceau sent planes to our carrier while in the Med and its super to see our Battle CODS doing ops on CDG
Foch 😉
@@benoitpisarchick6866yeah, he misspelled…but who give a Foch 🤣😎
how about even earlier when USN fighters flew off of RN carrier during WWII when the RN had the only carrier left in the Pacific for weeks
Demonstrates not only that special capability, but enormous trust and camaraderie between the Nations and Navies.
Really cool to see!
As an Australian who has never had the chance to see a carrier in the flesh and has never witnessed something like this in real life, thanks for showing the fantastic skills of not only the pilots but also the staff on the carrier's deck, Merry Christmas.
As a son of a US Marine fighter pilot (they are Naval Aviators too and land on carriers before they get let loose) I've been on a tour of "The Boat" as kid (one was docked in Honolulu when we stationed in Hawai'i). Impressions were the size, don't dive off the deck, and the anchor chain. That chain... holy jeebus 😮
@@EthanBSide What a great memory for you to have; I am sure to see a carrier "in the flesh" would be a sight to behold.
@@damienmilk6309 I'm sure more carriers will be by and dock in 'Straya as we're allies, so hopefully you can see or tour one! Unfortunately political situations currently will have ships like them be tourist unfriendly 😔
@@EthanBSide It is definitely on my bucket list of things to see. Thanks for the reply.
Malgré la trahison de votre gouvernement concernant les sous-marins ont vous aime quand même
A French from Indian Ocean
As a Frenchman, I had the chance to fly in a C2 a few years ago, and it was really a great experience. I am glad that we have a good relationship with our American friends
Love our alliance. 250 years and going. Long term love...ups and downs, but more solid than ever. 🇫🇷 🇺🇸
We may disagree sometimes, but when it "counts", we are often shoulder to shoulder.
Except.. during WWII, when we were like "France... really!?!?!?! WTF???" And then after WWII, all was forgiven...
@@mmeeozzzaaa3421 well the belgiums and british did us dirty at teh start of WWII
You left out the “xyz affair”.
My son is a COD pilot. Three deployments under his belt. Was here in US on holiday then just got called back to support CVN 74. CODs Rock. FLY NAVY
We also have many Call Of Duty pilots : )
Correction!! The Rafale jet is pronounced “Ra-fal,” not “Raphael” like the teenage mutant ninja turtle or the Italian painter he’s named after 🤣
The more you know…
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As a french speaker i appreciate your efforts.
Thank you.
I add Rafael is a well known israeli weapon manufacturer.
@@Koozomec Thanks brother! I honestly don't think I've ever heard it pronounced in person before. But I am fluent in Spanish and take pride in knowing a few phrases in multiple languages, so it kills me I got Rafale wrong!!
"Je ne parle pas français" was perfectly correct! don't worry !😄oh by the way I subscriiiiiiibed to support your channel. Bienvenue on ze fabuleux weurld of youtube @@flyrobroy
Now we're just splitting hairs...🫠@@BrySkye
I love that we do this with the French Navy.
Awesome video! Very cool to see the C-2 on the French carrier and to see how they do things vs the US Carriers. Loved the voice over! It definitely added to the video in a big way.
Thanks brother, I appreciate that and I agree! And I’ll be cranking out few more voice over videos in the near future 🤙🏼
American is an UGLY language. It added nothing but lightweight xenophobic fluff.
Your narration is awesome. You have the ideal voice and your easy going light hearted manner mixed with your detailed explanations make this a fantastic video. Thanks for posting it!!
Thank you so much for the kind words and for subscribing! I appreciate you Gene!
@@flyrobroy So many videos like this from people in the Navy or Airforce are like "Here's a plane...it's on an aircraft carrier...now it's taking off". You've a real talent for noting what is actually interesting about what is going on and explaining it clearly and concisely.
I really appreciate that man, thank you!@@ringosis
Third video i've watched on this topic, this is by far the coolest! Glad to see allies interoperating like this. Feels good. Feels smart too.
Glad to see you guys back on the Charles De'Gaulle. I was onboard with VRC-40 back in 2010 for a few weeks of exercises. Glad to see 40 is still bouncing that boat.
Ah oui, Charles De'Gaulle, a great french hero. Did you know he came From'Lille? I'm kidding of course but you can put that apostrophe away.
The effect of the propellers is aliasing when the propeller rotational speed is matching an integer value of the frame rate of the camera. Happy to see you having fun on the french aircraft carrier. Bienvenu.
Nice presentation...my Dad was a naval aviator...he got his wings in 1944 and retired in 1969...I was born at NAS Corpus Christi...all that said, I have a post card he sent me from the HMS Victorious in November 1961 while he was the Executive Officer of VA-52 flying A-1s...this was during joint exercise "Crosstie and took place in the South China Sea...he led a long and colorful life...
Another fun fact is that the CDG catapult is only 75M where as US carriers use a 90M catapult. So, to get the same launch speed, the "kick in the pants" of the CDG is much greater than that of US.
She's a fine ship. Bless her and her crew.
Old ship.
@@EnglishScripter So is the USS Constitution, but she's still a fine ship. As is this one.
@@EnglishScripterit’s less than 25 years old, barely it’s midlife, while the US Nimitz class carriers are in their 40s-50s. So no, it’s not old.
A carrier’s life is approximately 40-50 years.
@@brunol-p_g8800 36 years of age, since construction.
3:34 Your French is perfectly understandable in any case. 😎
Thank you for this very nice video which shows the very high level of interoperability between our two Navies.
🇫🇷 & 🇺🇸 Navy carrier pilots are dual qualified. They're the only services allowed to land on each nation's carriers.
The Rafales are some of the most beautiful military aircraft in my opinion! 😊
From Hampton Roads, the guy in white deserves a raise!!! Love you guys.
Really nice to see this cooperation. Funny: One of the American pilots who landed of the French aircraft carrier was interviewed. He said "all operations are going the same way on both French and US carriers, but the French have a bakery aboard that makes fresh baguette breads and croissants every day! I want to be transferred there" (Of course, he was joking)
it seems to me that this is also the case in French submarines
Joking about being transfered, because the bakery making fresh bread and croissants every day is no joke, it's true.
@@philippehoudoin2721 Wow!!! I have fresh baguette and croissant envy!!
@@philippehoudoin2721 when you see what the americans call bread i don't blame him
Always love to see such cooperation between our countries !
Greetings from France!
Thank you very much ! The many shots are very immersive. My readings of Buck Danny are a bit old and I struggle figuring out how a carrier is laid out.
Your tone is great.
And it's cool to watch genuine international cooperation. As a french, I hope our countries will work together as friends, to defend the valors of freedom and the will of the people. (I'm very optimistic sometimes)
AMERCIA.............and France! I got a good laugh from your remembering where they were! Interesting stuff.
Great video and so many perspectives. The French found it a special visit too obviously 😊 The voice over works great too. I can keep watching the action while listening to the explanation. You have a pleasant voice to listen too also, so keep it up!💪
Thanks for the kind words Rico!!
The Greyhound is the baddest of them all. The sound is a pure symphony of horsepower.
"Hell yeah! America!..... and France!" That's a perfect description for the Battle of Yorktown.
Had the privilege of seeing the DeGaulle in port Abu Dhabi in Feb(?) 2016. A handsome ship, indeed! I've also helped some of those young Raphal and E-2 pilots with their radio comms English. They're super sharp all the time and great friends!
rafale, not raphal
Beside to the fact these events are quite sympathetic this is valuable training for coop to face future conflicts. Frenchs and americans can trust and have their backs in this pretty dangerous world on the rise...
Cool! I was an LSE in a helo squadron.
On one deployment, we spent New Years at a French air base in Toulon. The food and wine was awesome!
Hope you enjoyed your time ! Happy new Year btw ;)
French naval aviation is tied to the hip to the USN. USN train French Navy aviators in Mississippi for carrier ops. When a US carrier groups sails into the Mediterranean, French Navy pilots will often be allowed to conduct landings to keep their skills up while the carrier group transits. They also use a chopped down US Navy steam catapult on the CDG. The USN has a nation to nation contract to maintain the catapult and the CDG always sails with 1-2 USN technicians to maintain the catapults. The new French carrier is planned to use EMALs.
you are vomiting bs confirmed France pilots comes to Mississipi to learn how much easier is their training in USA as requirements are lowered than France but still they learn the layout of their bigger aircraftcarrier
@@ommsterlitz1805why you mad bruh? Why were USN sailors interviewed serving abroad the CDG and they weren’t officers on exchange. And the CDG is smaller and has a much smaller complement.
France has already begun the studies for a new carrier to replace the CdG, which will be bigger (a bit shorter than a Nimitz-class), still nuclear, and with electric catapults.
they should not replace but keep it to have 2 France have the largest eez in the world they should at least double or triple their ships instead of giving hundreds of billions to migrants
@@ommsterlitz1805 So totally agree with ya!! We might need both carriers pretty soon enough!
Hundreds of billions to migrants😂😂😂 You're a bit off on the budget there@@ommsterlitz1805
@@fr-tigerfangs7039 What you guys need is 3... one deplyed, one in refit, and one getting ready. Many don't know this but 2/3rds of the US Carrier force is pairside at any one time for the ame reason.
@@ommsterlitz1805 agreed. These guys come in with no respect for our culture whatsoever. They take and never give, or whenever they give, it’s a lot of hatred and acrimony. I’d so much rather have a second CVN then hordes of people who are pushing us back into the Middle Age…
C-2's, such awesome planes. I don't want them to go away. Oh BTW, as a resident of Arizona, the tails on these planes look very much like the AZ flag. Cool!
Going to the Osprey is beyond the pale. Unsafe and too big….but it can carry an F-35 engine. Another F-35 driven carrier ops change.
Too big? The RA-5 would like a word.@@dlmyrs
@@ImpendingJoker Vigies for the win. I flew in S-3 Vikings and we could take up some room. But the Osprey is just insane for COD
the tail colors are part of the squadron patch. VRC-40
@@Demonicwolf9 Yes, I love it. I wouldn't mind having one of their patches. Thanks for the info.
Working in Riyadh during the build up to GW1 we had a great variety of planes coming in to 'experience' the runway and facilities at the base. That was great for me, and others, to watch. One of the rarer aircraft I saw was a COD. The aircraft I saw most of were the Starlifter and Galaxy, and tankers. Nice video.
1:43 Rafale , not Raphael ;)
awesome video. Nice to see such cooperation between our two country.
Greeting from France.
Love how the title of the video is like "Lost ourselves, found some kind of runway with a french flag in the midle of the sea, so we decided to land on it."
lol I’ve changed it 4 times in the last week!
Any better suggestions?
@@flyrobroyHey, you changed it again ! 😂
Maybe ask @ChasseEmbarquee for ideas xD
It could also have been... "We smelled fresh baguettes, so we decided to buy some for the air craft carrier's company!." .
@@mmeeozzzaaa3421 the only real bakery at sea. time to taste fresh bread
The CDG carrier returns to service at the start of 2024 after 6 months of maintenance to modernize and continue sailing until 2035 when the new aircraft carrier will be operational.
Very cool. I got to operate for two days with the Force d'action navale de marine nationale aboard Suffren, a guided missile cruiser, off Toulon in 1980. I got the honor since I was the only officer in the wardroom who spoke any French. A once in a lifetime experience.
Welcome back!
Very cool. Weird deck. Seen Hawkeye on the deck there too! Thanks!
Top notch pilot skills. Chapeau - a tip of the hat..!
Excellent! It's always cool to see ops from a different country's perspective.
That's just plain weird watching those props. I understand why, but it's still mucho weird, LOL!
Really great camera work. Thank you for taking me along.
Great videos, Excellent narration/commentary.
VERY cool - most of my career was in the Seahawk as the Senso - though I stole a good bunch of flight time in the Viking and COD. One nice thing with the helicopter - we could land on dang near every deck - I was PacFleet, so mostly Canadian, Japanese, Aussie, and UK (in the Persian Gulf)
Your humor and the voice over are great😉. I love the sound of these propellers but I would not want to be anywhere near them with the engine running😜. Greetings from Europe🇪🇺( not from France😉)
Mechanic glad to see the parts delivery ! Cool - These guys are great ! Go Navy
Some years back the French Rafale aircrews trained out of Oceana (?) They used to do their carrier practice landings about a mile from my house and would fly over my house with "French Navy" in English on their drop tanks. Beautiful aircraft and skilled aircrews..... a pleasure to watch
Thanks for a great trip through memory lane. I loved working with other counties Military when I was forward deployed. I made some close and dear friends that after 30 years sill stay in touch. USMC/USN 94 - 13 DAV.
Great to see USN C-2 Greyhound operating from the French aircraft carrier, Charles de Gaulle, the only non-American aircraft carrier that can operate all types of USN aircraft.
When the rpm of the props nearly or perfectly match the frame rate of the camera you get the elusion of a slow or stopped prop. It is the same with helicopters or machines with rotating parts when videoed. Love these videos. I flew UH-1H Hueys as a Warrant Officer in the Army. CODs and Huey helicopters are and were the work horses. Without them, no beans no bullets.
Although I was in the Seabee's and piloted a 5 Ton Wrecker as a CM, I truly enjoy watching your videos.
Love your videos man, thanks
Merci pour ce reportage
France 🇫🇷 et USA 🇺🇸 alliés depuis 1777 👍🤝
Maybe the Brits would like to play... just like old times!
Shout out to the French for helping US with our Redcoat problem all those years ago!
The British carriers cannot operate the same planes as the US and French. The UK uses a ramp to launch planes not a catapult.
If you set your camera to 24 or 30 fps the props will look how you expect. Love this super clear and well narrated video!
Charles the Gaulle is a really nice carrier.
Very well designed and effective for its size.
Random algo hit, but fun to watch. I like your narration and sense of humour - as a Canadian, American patriotism can get kind of old, making it hard to appreciate the genuine skill the American military displays - but you injected just the right level of light-heartedness to make it fun (whilst also showing your genuine pride in your country and the skilled professionals involved).
Also, kind of amazing how perfectly the prop spin synched up with the camera's frame rate!
Thanks for the kind words Davy. Appreciate it and thanks for subscribing!
@@Mike_Oxard Because none of use ever feel patriotic about our own countries? I *understand* American patriotism; I just get tired of constantly *hearing* about it. Which is why I appreciated flyrobroy's take so much.
I think it's hard for Americans to understand what it's like to be constantly bombarded by foreign media and attitudes. That's a function of population size and thus market size, I know, but it's a wearisome thing nonetheless.
@@Mike_Oxard Lol. As noted in the original post, I'm Canadian. Which means I get it way worse than Europe. :)
@@davydatwood3158I agree about American patriotism and the refreshing tone of this video. Also condolences for being just besides them ^^
Nevertheless it's cool to see genuine cooperation and skill
nice to see this kind of collaboration...
Rode with the Rawhides twice!!! Thanks for posting this.
Was a great experience.!
The nickname for the chopper here on the side when you are landing or catapulting plane is Pedro...was the same name when I was with the French Navy a long time ago..French pilots from the navy got a US navy pilot degree while training at Pensacola in Florida and they are doing their first landing and catapulting on US aircraft carrier also before going with navy Rafale jet on De Gaulle aircraft carrier.
My understanding is that the catapult on the French carrier lunches aircraft a little faster which results in more g's. And that's because they have slightly shorter space on their carrier
Great shots and angles 👍🏻
Amazing how the camera FPS was so perfectly synced to the propellers.
Best job in the world!
I flew off the Carrier USS Constellation a few time in the COD, It's better than any amusement park ride by a mile !
I had no problem with the cat shots and arrested landings when I was aircrew crew on the Rangers COD (C1-A) but I can't stand most of the amusement rides. Lol
0:22 funny to see the props not moving but the plane. I guess the camera is in sync with the prop blades.
We love our ALLIES!!!! Nice show Rob love your videos!!
Makes me annoyed that the British Government keep screwing the Royal Navy out of having proper CATOBAR carriers.
Why?
When in the last 75 years has a CATOBAR carrier been decisive in a conflict?
I can tell you one time when non-CATOBAR carriers were decisive.. and as a Brit you’d better know about it.
@@calvinnickel9995 Why? Because not having a CATOBAR carrier massively reduces and compromises the UK's naval air defence, support and strike capability.
When, in the last 75 years, has a CATOBAR carrier been decisive in a conflict? Several times, including in preventing conflicts from starting or escalating. The US and initially also UK CATOBAR carriers played a vital deterrence to the Soviet Union on several occasions during the Cold War. The US's CATOBAR carriers were vital and decisive towards ultimately achieving air superiority over Vietnam in the Vietnam war. They were vital and decisive in the Gulf of Sidra incident. They were vital and decisive towards achieving air superiority over Iraq in Gulf War 1. They were vital and decisive towards providing vital air support and strikes in Afghanistan and Iraq in the War on Terror. France's CATOBAR carrier was also decisive and effective in the 2011 Libyan war and was also highly effective and useful in the war against 1S1S.
Regards "I can tell you one time when non-CATOBAR carriers were decisive.. and as a Brit you’d better know about it."
I am a Brit and I do know about it. The STOVL carriers were not decisive. They were the UK's biggest capability lack and weakness in the Falklands War. The by far vast majority of British casualties were caused by Argentine Air Force attacks because the Royal Navy's inferior STOVL carriers and Harrier jets were incapable of providing an adequate air defence and incapable of achieving and maintaining air superiority over the Falklands.
The Royal Air Force also had to spend millions in resources and aviation fuel flying incredibly dangerous, extremely long-range, and complex mid-air refuelling reconnaissance and strike operations because the Royal Navy's STOVL carriers were incapable of launching long-range reconnaissance and heavy strike CATOBAR aircraft such as the S3 Buccaneer and FGR2 Phantom.
If the UK had been up against a better trained, better disciplined, better equipped and more capable Argentine Air Force. The UK would not have won the Falklands War.
However, if the Royal Navy had been able to retain its previous CATOBAR carriers and aircraft capability into the Falklands War. I.e. if the Royal Navy had been able to use the CATOBAR long-range, high-altitude, Supersonic high-speed and heavy weapons payload FG1 Phantom fighters, FGR2 Phantom fighter-bombers and S3 Buccaneer attack-bombers. Instead of the STOVL short-range, low-altitude, Subsonic low-speed and low weapons payload FRS1 and GR3 Harrier attack aircraft. The air war in the Falklands and the entire Falklands War in general would have been an absolute cakewalk for the UK, for considerably cheaper costs in resources and aviation fuel.
The entire Argentine Air Force would have been destroyed or incapacitated and complete air superiority over the Falklands would have been quickly achieved. British soldiers and sailors would have had absolutely no fear of Argentine Air Force attacks. No British ships would have been lost, and there would have been massively less British casualties.
In every way, shape and form, CATOBAR carriers are vastly more superior and beneficial than STOVL carriers. CATOBAR carriers are capable of rapidly launching and recovering a much wider variety of larger, longer-range, faster, greater weapons payloads and greater capability strike and support aircraft in practically all types of weather, 3 times faster than STOVL carriers can.
STVOL carriers are only capable of slowly launching and recovering just one small short-range, slower, smaller weapons payload fighter-bomber (the F35B) and helicopters. They can only do so in good or moderately bad weather and do so much slower than CATOBAR carriers..
@@calvinnickel9995 Why? Because not having a CATOBAR carrier massively reduces and compromises the UK's naval air defence, support and strike capability.
When, in the last 75 years, has a CATOBAR carrier been decisive in a conflict? Several times, including in preventing conflicts from starting or escalating. The US and initially also UK CATOBAR carriers played a vital deterrence to the Soviet Union on several occasions during the Cold War. The US's CATOBAR carriers were vital and decisive towards ultimately achieving air superiority over Vietnam in the Vietnam war. They were vital and decisive in the Gulf of Sidra incident.
They were vital and decisive towards achieving air superiority over Iraq in Gulf War 1. They were vital and decisive towards providing vital air support and strikes in Afghanistan and Iraq in the War on Terror. France's CATOBAR carrier was also decisive and effective in the 2011 Libyan war and was also highly effective and useful in the war against a group beginning with the letter I and ending with the letter S.
Regards "I can tell you one time when non-CATOBAR carriers were decisive.. and as a Brit you’d better know about it." I am a Brit and I do know about it.
The STOVL carriers were not decisive. They were the UK's biggest capability lack and weakness in the Falklands War. The by far vast majority of British casualties were caused by Argentine Air Force attacks because the Royal Navy's inferior STOVL carriers and Harrier jets were incapable of providing an adequate air defence and incapable of achieving and maintaining air superiority over the Falklands.
The Royal Air Force also had to spend millions in resources and aviation fuel flying incredibly dangerous, extremely long-range, and complex mid-air refuelling reconnaissance and strike operations because the Royal Navy's STOVL carriers were incapable of launching long-range reconnaissance and heavy strike CATOBAR aircraft such as the S3 Buccaneer and FGR2 Phantom.
If the UK had been up against a better trained, better disciplined, better equipped and more capable Argentine Air Force. The UK would not have won the Falklands War. However, if the Royal Navy had been able to retain its previous CATOBAR carriers and aircraft capability into the Falklands War.
I.e. if the Royal Navy had been able to use the CATOBAR long-range, high-altitude, Supersonic high-speed and heavy weapons payload FG1 Phantom fighters, FGR2 Phantom fighter-bombers and S3 Buccaneer attack-bombers. Instead of the STOVL short-range, low-altitude, Subsonic low-speed and low weapons payload FRS1 and GR3 Harrier attack aircraft.
The air war in the Falklands and the entire Falklands War in general would have been an absolute cakewalk for the UK, for considerably cheaper costs in resources and aviation fuel. The entire Argentine Air Force would have been incapacitated and complete air superiority over the Falklands would have been quickly achieved. British soldiers and sailors would have had absolutely no fear of Argentine Air Force attacks. No British ships would have been lost, and there would have been massively less British casualties.
In every way, shape and form, CATOBAR carriers are vastly more superior and beneficial than STOVL carriers. CATOBAR carriers are capable of rapidly launching and recovering a much wider variety of larger, longer-range, faster, greater weapons payloads and greater capability strike and support aircraft in practically all types of weather, 3 times faster than STOVL carriers can.
STVOL carriers are only capable of slowly launching and recovering just one small short-range, slower, smaller weapons payload fighter-bomber (the F35B) and helicopters. They can only do so in good or moderately bad weather and do so much slower than CATOBAR carriers..
Amazing!
Thanks for the shots from above the Greyhound .... all these years and I never realised the inner 2 tails moved!
3 of the 4 actually!
@@flyrobroy thanks I've just watched again !
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I do admire that the French nearly always want to go their own way with the military.
That's the last platform my dad flew off carriers. Looks like ospreys won't be replacing them any time soon based on the recent fatal failures. Go Navy!
Always a blast to watch. Keep'em coming
You need to bring that thing to Knoxville and give this old sailor a ride. McGhee Tyson always gets military planes. They'd love it.
Was onboard in 1999 during the Hawkeye sea trial.
We had a few USN Pilot onboard, they were always a bit stressed to land on something so small!! :-)
Beautiful Naval Aviation Job!
Rob Roy's cool narration had me hooked. ;)
I love your videos.
At 3:43, when wiping out the controls, the inside portside rudder didn't seem to move. Bug? Feature? Illusion? Great video, BTW!
I think one of the vertical stabilizers/rudder is fixed on the C2.
Greyhound and E-2 only have three rudders.
Its a bug, they'll patch it in future updates. It'll download once ready :D
Cool to see the services doing international relations. Even cooler to see their jets lined up like that too
As an old Harpoon player I knew exactly which carrier you were talking about before ever opening the video. :)
the camera synced with the props perfectly makes this so freakin' cool
It's cool to see that carrier, this massive ship, absolutely coating through the water. ;D
Awesome job.
Thanks. 👍
Fantastic
You make it look easy, but it should be noted the probability for an 'exception' increases when a blend of 2 systems attempt to merge as one making your task all the more amazing. Thanks
Really enjoyed this perspective and video! Well done!
thx for the video and frienship between US and FRANCE ! MERCI BEAUCOUP
Battle COD, love it! Thanks sir!
Fantastic, this is awesome footage. Thanks for the breakdown.