I'm an Angels fan who lives in L.A. I really like the gondola idea, and I think the strong anti-gondola sentiment is mostly due to the McCourt ties. People HATE Frank McCourt. But people here also hate traffic, parking costs, and our lack of good (connected) public transportation options. This gondola would help ALL those areas. Of course it's not going to eliminate all traffic, or be the way MOST people get to the stadium. The vast majority will still drive. But a gondola would provide SOME relief to what is now a MISERABLE experience. I personally live 5 miles from Dodger Stadium, and 55 miles from Angels Stadium... and most of that 55 miles is along a very congested 5 Fwy. But going to an Angels home game doesn't really take me much longer than going to a Dodgers game (and costs WAY less) because after a Dodgers game you're sitting in GNARLY traffic for like, 45 minutes... after paying $60 for a parking space. As for the "privacy" concerns.. ugh, just more NIMBYism... which is the major roadblock to so many projects. Those same neighborhoods have helicopters CONSTANTLY flying overhead, I don't hear concerns about that. How many people who live under the proposed route would have to give up their habit of nude sunbathing in the backyard / rooftop? C'mon Currently, I rarely go see my Angels play at Dodger stadium for the interleague games, even though its very close, because of the sky-high parking costs and traffic nightmare. But if I could just hop on the red line train to Union Station, then ride a FREE gondola that drops me right at the stadium....? I would go to EVERY Angels-Dodgers game!
They have many buses that bring fans in/out of Dodger stadium that works fine. Or you can park a mile or so away in the residential area and walk. It's quite a hike, but you move faster on foot than the traffic. 😉
With your reply, it reminded me of the opening of the movie "Office Space", where the old man using the walker, was continually moving faster than the car traffic.
It's about a 1.5 mile walk and it's uphill. I've done it. In the LA heat it's not ideal to do a hike like that before the game but I had alot of fun anyway. Let's face it, Dodger stadium doesn't have anything close by it(like right outside the stadium) like some of the best stadiums do. I think they need to build an entirely new stadium near SoFi
It really bums me out to see stadiums that are about equal in age and older than the Oakland Coliseum actually kept up to date and regularly modernized. I live about an hour away from Chavez Ravine, traffic going into the venue sucks, there is a lot of municipalities in the southland that have been pushing for alternatives to car traffic since the pandemic. The gondola sounds cool, many of us who live in the 805 and those comming from the Inland Empire can easily ride rail all the way to downtown LA and grab the gondola to the game. It's a great idea.
@@brodiebrazil - If we can have a 🚇 going uphill to North Hollywood from Downtown LA, we can have a 🚇 going up to the Stadium. 🤷♂️ Is it going to be expensive? 😆 Obviously, but i prefer it to be a good alternative.
@@robserrano8971 - why my employer didn’t include that is beyond me. Why didn’t I think about that?! Maybe to DodgerStadium as a branch, but that’ll be a stretch if we extend it to Burbank Airport. Then again, we do have the longest light rail 🚈 line in the world, so why not?
@@TheManny717 The Red line is all tunnel, which was extremely expensive to build. Elon Musk had a meeting at Dodger Stadium, in the top deck seating area, to discuss his Boring Tesla option. Nothing came from that presentation.
Build a Dodgertown Entertainment District with a Dodger themed hotel and restaurant with some retail next to the gondola station. People can take Metrolink or Metro Rail to Union Station and then take the gondolas.
The gondola has worked in most big Cities in the world Stadiums that have access to Gondolas Like The Luzhniki Stadium in Moscow, Russia, and The O2 Arena in London, UK, never complain that it's got going to work or that it is a bad Idea. Most Cities in Latin America use The Gondola in most neighborhoods near Mountains or hills Like La Paz, Bolivia, Medellin, Colombia, and Mexico City, Mexico these cities don't have Transit Access or own a Car and see a nice view of the city and the gridlock freeway traffic. It's a great idea and it's a different way for Angelinos and visitors to get to the Dodgers Stadium.
Not opposed to this, but really I just wish they would put in a high capacity escalator system (think Universal Studios StarWay) at the southeast corner of the stadium property. Couple that with an improved pedestrian crossing of the 110 freeway, and you have a comfortable half a mile walk from the Chinatown metro station.
@@Trashman702 I definitely think this is part of the reason transportation options to Dodger stadium have been awful for 60 years. Any proposed improvement is likely related to a desire to develop part of the lot.
Gondolas are meant for hundreds of people...not thousands. I remember watching BART unload during the wild card game in 2019 and I thought "This would take a thousand gondolas" LOL
This! BART is a bit of a extreme case with its largest in the country and among the largest in the world trains. But still, rail can move this many people with ease. BART can accommodate 2000 people in each train and trains can come every two minutes. There you go - 60k people in an hour is no problem for BART. A gondola would be a haaaaaaaard lift even for 10k people.
On that note, it should be noted that way back in the 60s, Walter O'Malley did envision having a monorail at the stadium and that he did consult Walt Disney on certain aspects of the project. I think they should try to go back to that monorail rather than the gondolas.
@@micycles1200 A monorail system would cost SO much more than a gondola. And require WAY more infrastructure to be built. All the issues people have with the gondola idea- a monorail train would have the same issues, but many orders of magnitude worse
2 thoughts - 1) 10,000 people in two hours? Before a game, maybe doable. But who would wait up to two hours AFTER a game to get out? Dodger fans will start leaving in the 5th inning! 2) As a fan of a visiting team, I would never be stuck in an enclosed gondola with Dodger fans after a game. The parking lot fights are bad enough!
was checking google maps there is 4 2 story housing units on the south side of the 110 and 4 houses off to the west on the north side of the 110, everything else it would pass over is commercial the routing can be done and not infringe on private property
Not everyone will ride gondola, people will still drive in, so the idea that it will move 57,000 people is ridiculous. I am for it I think its a great idea!
I live in Los Angeles. I do not think that the proposed gondola project should be green lighted. It would not serve enough people particularly as they exit the games and it would be built over existing structures which would impinge on the quality of life for those living below the line. A subway line extension would be much preferable.
Great conversation but a few points that were missed. One gondola riders were originally going to cost money (parking is actually $30 dollars) only when there was opposition did it become free and there is no assurance that it will stay free. 2) no parking is being built near union station so a good portion of people will still most likely drive to the downtown area just to avoid the parking fee thus not changing traffic much or having huge emissions change. This will only creating huge traffic jams in the downtown area near dodger stadium and create parking issues for business and residents in the Chinatown area. 3) You spoke of travel up to dodger stadium but no one speaks of travel out of dodger stadium if they do someway get 20,000 people up to the stadium in the 2 hrs before that means some people will be waiting 1-2 hours just to get out once the game ends. Even if they only get 10,000 its still a possible 1hr wait for some. Once that happens to someone they will never ride the gondola again.
I think they should have some sort of public transportation to Dodger Stadium It is a hassle to get there for games and traffic is a nightmare. The gondola should make it easier for fans to get to and from the ballpark if it is planned correctly.
The Howard terminal Gondola was stupid because it was going over interstate 880 at 6:00 game time right in the midst of Rush Hour. if it broke down they'd have to stop the freeway in both directions potentially.
I enjoy your videos, but I feel the need to make a correction on an assumption that many make when they state that electric powered vehicles (or in this case a gondola) are "green" or emission free. This is a fallacy that has somehow taken root. It's true that the gondola itself will not emit greenhouse gases. But where does the electricity come from? Most of the electricity in this country is generated by coal fueled power plants. So unless solar powered panels are installed on the gondola that will magically generate enough electricity (even at night!!!) to power the gondola, there is no way gondola transit is emission free.
Can’t wait for all the drunk fights in one of those 😂. Also cost for parking for general is $30. Idk how much it is for the parking right next to the stadium.
@@brodiebrazil would moving the traffic half a mile into that residential neighborhood help somehow? I don’t get it logistically. I see the stadium has limited paths onto the property but I don’t see where the same volume of cars can half a mile away either.
Getting in and out of Dodgers stadium is a nightmare. Any idea they come up with should be looked at. Sounds all good until the thing breaks down mid ride.
@@beerussama7093 *okok, I got the details, McCourt actually owns only half of the parking lot... Apparently it was cheaper for the Dodgers to let McCourt retain that lot based on some tax property loophole that let the property taxes be stuck in 2004 instead of the property being reassessed when the team was sold in 2012... McCourt then actually invested into the Guggenheim Group & collects 1% of the parking fees on the land he owns on top of the rent plus gets a luxury suite at Dodger Stadium as long as his money stays invested in Guggenheim/Dodger Ownership... I guess the whole deal actually saves Dodgers Ownership a lot of money in some rich man tax loophole bullshit, fucking rich people!!!
This is great!! I’m not against it, seems like a good idea and I’m on board. However, I would much rather see an actual rail station to Dodger stadium with one of the LA Metro rail lines.
@@OliverSolorzano *honestly, the gondola system is the best option for a people mover with extreme hill grade which is why I'm guessing it was proposed... it would just cost too much to tunnel & then use an escalator to shepard the sheep up the hill... Secondly, building an above ground or below ground light rail system is just a logistical nightmare for that area... The gondola system is cost effective & logical for the landscape challenges Dodger Stadium processes & has the least amount of infrastructure restructuring that won't disturb streets, sewer, power & earth... I don't really see another option that makes any financial or logistical sense...
I really don't think this is a good idea. Do they need a better public transportation option? Yeah, sure. Is a skyway gondola really the best option? I don't think so. First of all, that 10,000/hr number is not likely to happen. In fact, they'll be lucky to get 10,000 riders per game. Not only will there be loading delays but you have to understand that this is not just a ski-lift or a fairground skyride. This this is going to go way up and over buildings, over homes, and up the mountain, and quite frankly, there are going to be a lot of people who would rather stay closer to the ground. You also have to consider that in the summer, it gets extremely hot, and being in a glass box full of people is going to be unbearable. These things are all going to need to be equipped with air conditioning - and it has to be reliable as well as efficient. Let's also consider that in the early fall, Los Angeles gets windy as hell. Those Santana Winds are no joke. They get violent. You have to imagine that in September and during the playoffs - arguably the busiest time of the year for the Dodgers - there will be days where those gondolas can't operate. I know they have to be built to withstand hurricane-force winds but it will be dangerous for the people inside when they start shaking around. Also, what about emergency situations and evacuations? From time to time, those things are going to stop. It happens and sometimes it's not going to be an easy reset. There's the potential for riders to be stranded for long periods of time and it won't be pretty. There's also the fact that what are they going to do with the thing on non-game days? Is it always going to run? If I were a homeowner or business owner forced to have these things overhead, I'd want to see them moving all the time and not just sit there idle for half the year. To me, a gondola system doesn't make any sense. There needs to be a better option. It may be the cheaper option, but it's not the better one. And I know people are going to point to the Disney Skyliner and other mass transit gondolas and say "oh well that one works fine!" Well, they've all faced those problems before and continue to face them. Speaking of Disney, there's a solution to this that I believe is a better option and even has significance to Dodger Stadium history. Why not try to build a monorail? I know it's not a perfect option and it is more expensive, but it fixes a lot of the problems mentioned above. Plus, a parking lot monorail was in the original plans for Dodger Stadium. I know it would be more expensive and I know it would have problems of its own but it wouldn't be nearly as problematic as a skyway. I'm certain of that.
Dodger stadium has terrible traffic. I’ve been at the gates at 6:30 and didn’t make it to first pitch at 7:10. If it doesn’t get made. It’s more politics involved and people love their traffic. People love traffic. Dodgers also have lots of events the gondola would be used year round.
This would be great at a lot of other stadiums for the ride share programs. like a outside the stadium drop off area for the ride share cars or even a pick up area for all the other people in the area.
To me the Dodgers are really stupid I believe once the Carson deal fell through for the Raiders and chargers that that huge amount of land could have went in as a Dodger town and they could have created their own little mini town and or City and made it into like a type of Disneyland universal studio type of thing but with baseball and for the Dodgers plus taking it away from where they're at would drop the weather situation by at least 10 degrees on game days but they decided to keep it there and it's neat but during Day games a terrible place for baseball
Carson is just as hot. And the views would not be a wonderful. There’s only a few day games at Dodger Stadium, so that really is not that big of a factor.
I'm an Angels fan who lives in L.A. I really like the gondola idea, and I think the strong anti-gondola sentiment is mostly due to the McCourt ties. People HATE Frank McCourt. But people here also hate traffic, parking costs, and our lack of good (connected) public transportation options. This gondola would help ALL those areas. Of course it's not going to eliminate all traffic, or be the way MOST people get to the stadium. The vast majority will still drive. But a gondola would provide SOME relief to what is now a MISERABLE experience.
I personally live 5 miles from Dodger Stadium, and 55 miles from Angels Stadium... and most of that 55 miles is along a very congested 5 Fwy. But going to an Angels home game doesn't really take me much longer than going to a Dodgers game (and costs WAY less) because after a Dodgers game you're sitting in GNARLY traffic for like, 45 minutes... after paying $60 for a parking space.
As for the "privacy" concerns.. ugh, just more NIMBYism... which is the major roadblock to so many projects. Those same neighborhoods have helicopters CONSTANTLY flying overhead, I don't hear concerns about that. How many people who live under the proposed route would have to give up their habit of nude sunbathing in the backyard / rooftop? C'mon
Currently, I rarely go see my Angels play at Dodger stadium for the interleague games, even though its very close, because of the sky-high parking costs and traffic nightmare. But if I could just hop on the red line train to Union Station, then ride a FREE gondola that drops me right at the stadium....? I would go to EVERY Angels-Dodgers game!
They have many buses that bring fans in/out of Dodger stadium that works fine. Or you can park a mile or so away in the residential area and walk. It's quite a hike, but you move faster on foot than the traffic. 😉
With your reply, it reminded me of the opening of the movie "Office Space", where the old man using the walker, was continually moving faster than the car traffic.
@@daleh7733 I forgot about that, but yea, that's almost how it is sometimes. Haha (Great movie too)
It's about a 1.5 mile walk and it's uphill. I've done it. In the LA heat it's not ideal to do a hike like that before the game but I had alot of fun anyway. Let's face it, Dodger stadium doesn't have anything close by it(like right outside the stadium) like some of the best stadiums do. I think they need to build an entirely new stadium near SoFi
The bus shuttle works well, and it's free
It really bums me out to see stadiums that are about equal in age and older than the Oakland Coliseum actually kept up to date and regularly modernized. I live about an hour away from Chavez Ravine, traffic going into the venue sucks, there is a lot of municipalities in the southland that have been pushing for alternatives to car traffic since the pandemic. The gondola sounds cool, many of us who live in the 805 and those comming from the Inland Empire can easily ride rail all the way to downtown LA and grab the gondola to the game. It's a great idea.
That’s actually a good point. Could avoid a car entirely for lots of people.
I love Blue Heaven on earth even with it's traffic. Once you're there, it's peaceful.
Iconic.
$30 Gen parking. $60 Preferred parking, so yeah $50 on avg
As a Dodger fan IN LA (WHO WORKS FOR THE MTA), I preferred to have a subway line going to/from DodgerStadium instead.
Is that even a possibility, uphill?
@@brodiebrazil - If we can have a 🚇 going uphill to North Hollywood from Downtown LA, we can have a 🚇 going up to the Stadium. 🤷♂️ Is it going to be expensive? 😆 Obviously, but i prefer it to be a good alternative.
A NORTHERN EXTENTION OF THE WSAB FROM CERRITOS TO UNION STATION. THEN CONTINUE IT WITH STOPS AT DODGER STADIUM, LA ZOO, BURBANK, BOB HOPE AIRPORT.
@@robserrano8971 - why my employer didn’t include that is beyond me. Why didn’t I think about that?! Maybe to DodgerStadium as a branch, but that’ll be a stretch if we extend it to Burbank Airport. Then again, we do have the longest light rail 🚈 line in the world, so why not?
@@TheManny717 The Red line is all tunnel, which was extremely expensive to build. Elon Musk had a meeting at Dodger Stadium, in the top deck seating area, to discuss his Boring Tesla option. Nothing came from that presentation.
Build a Dodgertown Entertainment District with a Dodger themed hotel and restaurant with some retail next to the gondola station. People can take Metrolink or Metro Rail to Union Station and then take the gondolas.
The gondola has worked in most big Cities in the world Stadiums that have access to Gondolas Like The Luzhniki Stadium in Moscow, Russia, and The O2 Arena in London, UK, never complain that it's got going to work or that it is a bad Idea. Most Cities in Latin America use The Gondola in most neighborhoods near Mountains or hills Like La Paz, Bolivia, Medellin, Colombia, and Mexico City, Mexico these cities don't have Transit Access or own a Car and see a nice view of the city and the gridlock freeway traffic. It's a great idea and it's a different way for Angelinos and visitors to get to the Dodgers Stadium.
I thought parking was $30 at Dodger Stadium… I went in May, but I believe my brother prepaid - which was cheaper.
Not opposed to this, but really I just wish they would put in a high capacity escalator system (think Universal Studios StarWay) at the southeast corner of the stadium property. Couple that with an improved pedestrian crossing of the 110 freeway, and you have a comfortable half a mile walk from the Chinatown metro station.
Those escalators at Universal are epic
16k spots X $50 per spot is $800k per game in Parking revenue which is a WHOPPING $65 million dollars over 81 home games
@@Trashman702 I definitely think this is part of the reason transportation options to Dodger stadium have been awful for 60 years. Any proposed improvement is likely related to a desire to develop part of the lot.
Gondolas are meant for hundreds of people...not thousands. I remember watching BART unload during the wild card game in 2019 and I thought "This would take a thousand gondolas" LOL
This! BART is a bit of a extreme case with its largest in the country and among the largest in the world trains. But still, rail can move this many people with ease. BART can accommodate 2000 people in each train and trains can come every two minutes. There you go - 60k people in an hour is no problem for BART. A gondola would be a haaaaaaaard lift even for 10k people.
This kind of reminds me of how Disney World put in a gondola system connecting Hollywood studios and Epcot.
On that note, it should be noted that way back in the 60s, Walter O'Malley did envision having a monorail at the stadium and that he did consult Walt Disney on certain aspects of the project. I think they should try to go back to that monorail rather than the gondolas.
@@micycles1200 A monorail system would cost SO much more than a gondola. And require WAY more infrastructure to be built. All the issues people have with the gondola idea- a monorail train would have the same issues, but many orders of magnitude worse
The Rio parking lots connected to the strip by a gondola makes the most sense for a Las Vegas ballpark site.
2 thoughts -
1) 10,000 people in two hours? Before a game, maybe doable. But who would wait up to two hours AFTER a game to get out? Dodger fans will start leaving in the 5th inning!
2) As a fan of a visiting team, I would never be stuck in an enclosed gondola with Dodger fans after a game. The parking lot fights are bad enough!
was checking google maps there is 4 2 story housing units on the south side of the 110 and 4 houses off to the west on the north side of the 110, everything else it would pass over is commercial the routing can be done and not infringe on private property
Not everyone will ride gondola, people will still drive in, so the idea that it will move 57,000 people is ridiculous. I am for it I think its a great idea!
Great video! ❤
I live in Los Angeles. I do not think that the proposed gondola project should be green lighted. It would not serve enough people particularly as they exit the games and it would be built over existing structures which would impinge on the quality of life for those living below the line. A subway line extension would be much preferable.
Great conversation but a few points that were missed. One gondola riders were originally going to cost money (parking is actually $30 dollars) only when there was opposition did it become free and there is no assurance that it will stay free. 2) no parking is being built near union station so a good portion of people will still most likely drive to the downtown area just to avoid the parking fee thus not changing traffic much or having huge emissions change. This will only creating huge traffic jams in the downtown area near dodger stadium and create parking issues for business and residents in the Chinatown area.
3) You spoke of travel up to dodger stadium but no one speaks of travel out of dodger stadium if they do someway get 20,000 people up to the stadium in the 2 hrs before that means some people will be waiting 1-2 hours just to get out once the game ends. Even if they only get 10,000 its still a possible 1hr wait for some. Once that happens to someone they will never ride the gondola again.
I think they should have some sort of public transportation to Dodger Stadium It is a hassle to get there for games and traffic is a nightmare. The gondola should make it easier for fans to get to and from the ballpark if it is planned correctly.
They already have buses that take forever after a game. This would help alleviate that traffic. More options >>
General is 30 and preferred parking is 60. You can also buy parking beforehand with a slight discount. We also have shuttles taking people to games.
Also costs 8 dollars to park at Union Station.
Look how well and the transformations it made in Colombia. Build it. The complainers will always complain. You can’t please everyone.
The Howard terminal Gondola was stupid because it was going over interstate 880 at 6:00 game time right in the midst of Rush Hour. if it broke down they'd have to stop the freeway in both directions potentially.
Parking at Dodgers Stadium is $30 general and $50 preferred
I enjoy your videos, but I feel the need to make a correction on an assumption that many make when they state that electric powered vehicles (or in this case a gondola) are "green" or emission free. This is a fallacy that has somehow taken root. It's true that the gondola itself will not emit greenhouse gases. But where does the electricity come from? Most of the electricity in this country is generated by coal fueled power plants. So unless solar powered panels are installed on the gondola that will magically generate enough electricity (even at night!!!) to power the gondola, there is no way gondola transit is emission free.
Understand and agree with you. Until anything is solar/wind powered from the start, it still isn’t clean. But i believe this project is solar.
Can’t wait for all the drunk fights in one of those 😂.
Also cost for parking for general is $30. Idk how much it is for the parking right next to the stadium.
Hardly green. People drive to a remote location and still pollute the atmosphere. So it’s not green.
Except for the whole idling in parking lot for 45 mins thing…
Presumably many of the people taking the gondola would take public transportation to Union Station.
how far would the gondole distance be from Union Square to the ballpark?
how does a half mile long gondola prevent people from having to park?
Dodger stadium is atop a hill. Only a few ways out.
@@brodiebrazil would moving the traffic half a mile into that residential neighborhood help somehow?
I don’t get it logistically.
I see the stadium has limited paths onto the property but I don’t see where the same volume of cars can half a mile away either.
Prefered parking Faster exit 55 dollars H 50 general parking 27
Getting in and out of Dodgers stadium is a nightmare. Any idea they come up with should be looked at. Sounds all good until the thing breaks down mid ride.
It takes some real mental gymnastics to think a gondola is more feasible, higher capacity, and lower cost than very basic public transit. Classic LA
If Frank McCourt can benefit in any way it’s a NO for me dog.
😳 unfortunately, I believe he still owns the parking lot, no?
He owns the land the parking lot is on but doesn't collect parking fees, Dodgers lease the lot from him...
@@dvo1245I read he was entitled to a certain percentage of the parking fees I believe.
@@beerussama7093 *okok, I got the details, McCourt actually owns only half of the parking lot... Apparently it was cheaper for the Dodgers to let McCourt retain that lot based on some tax property loophole that let the property taxes be stuck in 2004 instead of the property being reassessed when the team was sold in 2012... McCourt then actually invested into the Guggenheim Group & collects 1% of the parking fees on the land he owns on top of the rent plus gets a luxury suite at Dodger Stadium as long as his money stays invested in Guggenheim/Dodger Ownership... I guess the whole deal actually saves Dodgers Ownership a lot of money in some rich man tax loophole bullshit, fucking rich people!!!
This is great!! I’m not against it, seems like a good idea and I’m on board.
However, I would much rather see an actual rail station to Dodger stadium with one of the LA Metro rail lines.
Too steep of an incline for rail, the maximum hill grade for rail is like a long gradual 7%...
@@dvo1245 Can they do an underground subway line to the area around Dodger stadium? Despite the incline.
@@OliverSolorzano *honestly, the gondola system is the best option for a people mover with extreme hill grade which is why I'm guessing it was proposed... it would just cost too much to tunnel & then use an escalator to shepard the sheep up the hill... Secondly, building an above ground or below ground light rail system is just a logistical nightmare for that area... The gondola system is cost effective & logical for the landscape challenges Dodger Stadium processes & has the least amount of infrastructure restructuring that won't disturb streets, sewer, power & earth... I don't really see another option that makes any financial or logistical sense...
@@dvo1245 Monorail would work like the Getty Museum. But expensive to build.
@@OliverSolorzano Sure... only need a few billion dollars and about 30 years
I really don't think this is a good idea. Do they need a better public transportation option? Yeah, sure. Is a skyway gondola really the best option? I don't think so. First of all, that 10,000/hr number is not likely to happen. In fact, they'll be lucky to get 10,000 riders per game. Not only will there be loading delays but you have to understand that this is not just a ski-lift or a fairground skyride. This this is going to go way up and over buildings, over homes, and up the mountain, and quite frankly, there are going to be a lot of people who would rather stay closer to the ground. You also have to consider that in the summer, it gets extremely hot, and being in a glass box full of people is going to be unbearable. These things are all going to need to be equipped with air conditioning - and it has to be reliable as well as efficient. Let's also consider that in the early fall, Los Angeles gets windy as hell. Those Santana Winds are no joke. They get violent. You have to imagine that in September and during the playoffs - arguably the busiest time of the year for the Dodgers - there will be days where those gondolas can't operate. I know they have to be built to withstand hurricane-force winds but it will be dangerous for the people inside when they start shaking around. Also, what about emergency situations and evacuations? From time to time, those things are going to stop. It happens and sometimes it's not going to be an easy reset. There's the potential for riders to be stranded for long periods of time and it won't be pretty. There's also the fact that what are they going to do with the thing on non-game days? Is it always going to run? If I were a homeowner or business owner forced to have these things overhead, I'd want to see them moving all the time and not just sit there idle for half the year.
To me, a gondola system doesn't make any sense. There needs to be a better option. It may be the cheaper option, but it's not the better one. And I know people are going to point to the Disney Skyliner and other mass transit gondolas and say "oh well that one works fine!" Well, they've all faced those problems before and continue to face them. Speaking of Disney, there's a solution to this that I believe is a better option and even has significance to Dodger Stadium history. Why not try to build a monorail? I know it's not a perfect option and it is more expensive, but it fixes a lot of the problems mentioned above. Plus, a parking lot monorail was in the original plans for Dodger Stadium. I know it would be more expensive and I know it would have problems of its own but it wouldn't be nearly as problematic as a skyway. I'm certain of that.
Dodger stadium has terrible traffic. I’ve been at the gates at 6:30 and didn’t make it to first pitch at 7:10.
If it doesn’t get made. It’s more politics involved and people love their traffic. People love traffic.
Dodgers also have lots of events the gondola would be used year round.
After you get off the gondola you still have to run thru the parking lot traffic,
gondalas are sick
It was better back in the day to go 2 hours before because then you used to be able to tailgate but not no more so what's the point of that
This would be great at a lot of other stadiums for the ride share programs. like a outside the stadium drop off area for the ride share cars or even a pick up area for all the other people in the area.
Ridiculous idea. Vandalism, stuffy, and just not a pleasant trip.
& Target practice for some hoodlums
@@romelovesdan Great insight.
Nice to have something when you don’t think you have to buy for it with ever increasing taxes.
The already strained power grid with everything going electric; This project is one rolling blackout away from being a total disaster.
Nah. Not gondola service professional sports venue. Not transits people and more. /
To me the Dodgers are really stupid I believe once the Carson deal fell through for the Raiders and chargers that that huge amount of land could have went in as a Dodger town and they could have created their own little mini town and or City and made it into like a type of Disneyland universal studio type of thing but with baseball and for the Dodgers plus taking it away from where they're at would drop the weather situation by at least 10 degrees on game days but they decided to keep it there and it's neat but during Day games a terrible place for baseball
Carson is just as hot. And the views would not be a wonderful. There’s only a few day games at Dodger Stadium, so that really is not that big of a factor.