Artifishal: The Fight to Save Wild Salmon | Patagonia Films
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- Artifishal is a film about people, rivers, and the fight for the future of wild fish and the environment that supports them. It explores wild salmon’s slide toward extinction, threats posed by fish hatcheries and fish farms, and our continued loss of faith in nature.
Thanks for watching our film, and for your comments -- our primary goal with the film was to shine a spotlight on these issues, to spark dialogue and encourage changes in the way we think about river and fish conservation and fishery management. The common ground we all seem to share is a love of rivers and an interest in seeing wild fish return in greater abundance. Patagonia has been working to protect wild rivers and wild fish for over 40 years. We were founded by an avid fly fisherman - and we’re proud of all our connections to the fish world, which range from our fly fishing and salmon product lines, to the over $20 million in grants we’ve given to local groups working on these issues in communities around the world.
To that end, whatever your point of view, we hope you visit Patagonia Action Works, to learn more about and support groups working to protect wild rivers and wild fish - www.patagonia....
Further, this is the 3rd film we’ve made about these issues. First was Damnation, which highlights the destructive effect of obsolete dams on healthy river ecosystems and habitat; and then, Blue Heart of Europe, which shares the shocking story of a tsunami of dam development in the Balkans region of Eastern Europe, and calls for a stop to the construction of 3,000 new hydropower dams and diversions. We couldn’t agree more that habitat destruction, dam building, mismanaged harvest, and pollution of our waterways are also incredibly important issues - check out these films to get a sense for some of our advocacy across the issues.
Watch Blue Heart here: • Blue Heart Full Film |...
Watch DamNation here: www.amazon.com...
If you have questions about our position - please visit www.patagonia.... and review our "Get the Facts" section and visit our Provisions Sourcing page for more information on our Salmon products: www.patagoniap...
Finally, if you have questions about the science on this issue, we recommend these links, housed on the Native Fish Society and Wild Fish Conservancy web pages:
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At Patagonia, we appreciate that all life on earth is under threat of extinction. We’re using the resources we have-our business, our investments, our voice and our imaginations-to do something about it.
Thanks for watching our film, and for your comments -- our primary goal with the film was to shine a spotlight on these issues, to spark dialogue and encourage changes in the way we think about river and fish conservation and fishery management. The common ground we all seem to share is a love of rivers and an interest in seeing wild fish return in greater abundance. Patagonia has been working to protect wild rivers and wild fish for over 40 years. We were founded by an avid fly fisherman - and we’re proud of all our connections to the fish world, which range from our fly fishing and salmon product lines, to the over $20 million in grants we’ve given to local groups working on these issues in communities around the world.
To that end, whatever your point of view, we hope you visit Patagonia Action Works, to learn more about and support groups working to protect wild rivers and wild fish - www.patagonia.com/actionworks/about
Further, this is the 3rd film we’ve made about these issues. First was Damnation, which highlights the destructive effect of obsolete dams on healthy river ecosystems and habitat; and then, Blue Heart of Europe, which shares the shocking story of a tsunami of dam development in the Balkans region of Eastern Europe, and calls for a stop to the construction of 3,000 new hydropower dams and diversions. We couldn’t agree more that habitat destruction, dam building, mismanaged harvest, and pollution of our waterways are also incredibly important issues - check out these films to get a sense for some of our advocacy across the issues.
Watch Blue Heart here: th-cam.com/video/OhmHByZ0Xd8/w-d-xo.html
Watch DamNation here: www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B00QH8UZUY/ref=atv_dl_rdr
If you have questions about our position - please visit www.patagonia.com/artifishal.html and review our "Get the Facts" section and visit our Provisions Sourcing page for more information on our Salmon products: www.patagoniaprovisions.com/pages/salmon-conservation
Finally, if you have questions about the science on this issue, we recommend these links, housed on the Native Fish Society and Wild Fish Conservancy web pages:
nativefishsociety.org/science/hatcheries
wildfishconservancy.org/wild-steelhead/scientific-evidence-on-adverse-effects-of-steelhead-hatcheries
wildfishconservancy.org/what-we-do/advocacy/steelhead-hatchery-reform/the-effects-of-hatchery-production-on-wild-salmon-and-trout
wildfishconservancy.org/resources/science-library/HatcheryImpactonWildSalmonidsBakke.pdf
very cool, life is creating & sharing & solving problem, excellent film
Not even a mention of what commercial fishing is doing to the fish numbers. Way to go Patagonia. Great way to make a film like you give a dam . There are those of us that see through the lies a BS your spreading. Maybe you should do a film on how commercial fishing is depleting the oceans of fish.
@@joshuavanderschaaf5145 commercial fishing of salmon is one of the must sustainable resources on the planet. You need to get your fact straight before you make any argument.
U fuckes should be ashamed educating the ppl with completely false information and meanwhile boosting sales revenue on Patagonia wild salmon... Fucking bull shit
The non industry funded science provided is sound and pictures don’t lie. But they do need to do cover damage done by commercial fishing and be more transparent about their own agenda and interests.
I like it how they put no ads in this. Mad respect
Glad to see I'm not the only one TH-cam recommended this too lol
Same here!
Faxxxx
@@ambersykora352 nice
Facts!
As a salmon fishery biologist for more than 35 years in the Pacific Northwest I have to agree with most of the information provided in Artifishal, however, Patagonia missed the mark when they didn't call for moratoriums on harvest along with hatcheries. Wild stocks cannot survive our current technological driven harvest rates and practices. The hatcheries exist to support harvest rates and practices. If you eliminate hatcheries you have to reduce or end harvest.
As an interesting side note, the sponsor, Patagonia, started selling food a few years ago, including "wild" sockeye salmon. Patagonia charges $37.33/lb for wild sockeye salmon or around $373 per fish. My local Albertsons grocery store sells Alaska sockeye for $12.00/lb. I wonder what Patagonia's motivation is?
Eric Hockersmith money money money
Unfortunately all conservation groups, activists, governments & spokes people are failing to mention the human population has grown beyond its natural environment - 700 percent increase in 150 years as well as an industrial opulent (western) mentality. Much of our problems and our solution comes from our numbers.
Wild salmon should be expensive - if you are not local and cannot fish yourself, they should be regarded as a luxury item & really if you cannot afford it don’t by it. We are eating better than any emperors, rulers, kings and queens of history. But yes, if Patagonia was so concerned with wild salmon stocks, don’t sell it????!
Thank you for bringing up the important topic of better managing harvest - we agree that in many fisheries, wild stocks can’t possibly keep up with current harvest rates and practices. In a list of rules of thumb around buying and eating salmon located here, www.patagonia.com/artifishal.html , we share this advice: “Don’t buy Pacific salmon from open-ocean, mixed-stock fisheries. A majority of these fish are often of hatchery origin, and more importantly, open-ocean harvest cannot discriminate between abundant and endangered stocks of fish.” We do believe that there are some sustainable fisheries out there, such as Bristol Bay sockeye salmon and reef-net-caught pink salmon from Lummi Island, Washington. And we are proud of the work we’re doing to source wild sockeye and pink salmon from truly sustainable sources. Our motivation, with all of our work, is simply this: we want to help save wild fish and wild rivers, and part of that is shifting the paradigm around how fish are harvested. We believe that, as a business, making it work on the ground, we can approach this effort in a concrete, solutions-oriented fashion. Check out the stories behind our salmon products on our Patagonia provisions sourcing page, www.patagoniaprovisions.com/pages/artifishal
I like that they say some fisheries. When all are affected as 1 not individually. There are now rivers that think its positive to get 48 fish to return....48 fish? That's good? We are doomed if we close all the hatcheries! Hatchery wild co exist!
That young girl at 29 mins in .has a bright future. She nailed this hole documentary in in 1 sentence
right!!!! absolutely brilliant!!!!
Yeah man she's so smart
She surprised me so much!
Blew my mind. Definitely a smart kid.
She'll sure be shut down in some Way time and time again, unable to stand up. The ones in rule would like that, were apparently to many on their earth.....
Thank you for sharing. The best documentary I have seen. A masterpiece for our mother and all of the beautiful creatures she gives life to.
Well thank God I watched this film because I was about to take a job working at a US Fish & Wildlife national fish hatchery in Wyoming. And now I can say that NO, I will not contribute to this major mistake that is devolving and threatening wild fishes. I used to be an avid supporter of fish farming- I spent months researching and writing papers about the economic benefits of fish farming- because I thought it was reducing pressure on wild fish stocks. But this film has flipped my understand on its head!!! Thank you @Patagonia for such a beautiful and thorough exposé of a pretty big misunderstanding, yet another example of humans trying to engineer our way out of the inevitable consequence of living beyond our means.
As a boy I grew up in the finger lakes in New York with all their tributaries , I am a Proponent of and For Nature,, Mans Intervention and attempts to Divert Natures Primordial Rhythms has always been Detrimental, " Nature is the Source and the Only Course of Mothers Earths Mechanisms, to Play God ," is to Defile the Natural Order of things. Great Film ! I am a Die Hard 61 year old Fly Fisherman , and I cant remember the last time I caught a (Truly Wild ) Trout or Salmon .God Bless , Keep Opening Eyes.
Thank you Patagonia for using your platform to share and produce life changing information with a purpose bigger than ourselves, you gained a new customer today.
Awesome documentary. When I was a kid, there was salmon all the way up to Rio Linda Creek , on the outskirts of Sacramento, that were so big, they had to be 20 lbs. By the time I was in highschool, most of the fish were gone. Just a few little trout. Now there's none. All the streams, creeks, and rivers had fish until dams came along. Dams were only created to starve out Indigenous People. They never needed to block up whole rivers. Especially not for power. The sand, gravel and wildlife can no longer reach the oceans to spawn or create and maintain beaches. We are losing up to 9 Meters of beach a year around the world to erosion because of dams.
Can I ask what year you were in high school?
@@loumoon7660 Same story with me. Graduated 2018 and no salmon in the creek. Not even trout.. in 2008-2012 salmon were running small creeks. No dams were put into place in my case.
What an eye opener, thanks for bringing The Light. I didn't have idea of this doings, I heard about fish farms and how this type of fish is not good, therefore I was making sure I was buying wild caught not knowing that our wild fish have been contaminated by these hatcheries...Our entire Planet is Greaving...May God Help us...In the book of Revelation it says that GOD is going to destroy those that are destroying The Planet.
Absolutely an essential watch for everyone! We have to let go and let Mother Nature restore and repair herself. It’s so disgusting that we as humans have the most complex brain but we’re so dumb at the same time.
Same applies to us here in newfoundland and labrador they come and go like everything else...let um do theyre cycle
Wild Steelhead declines on the Skykomish are largely due to the fact that the Snohomish estuary has been diked and developed to the point that 85% of historical wetland is now gone. This has huge impacts on Chinook and Steelhead that spend up to a year in the estuary. I don't disagree that hatchery fish add to the complications but the hatchery alone is not responsible for the declines. Development is.
Tyler Perry Agreed. My friends and I used to say “the answer is always both” when we were doing our undergrads in Ecology, ecosystems are too complex to blame issues on one specific thing or another! Hopefully we can redirect money towards proper habitat management in the future so hatcheries can be phased out and we can give wild fish a fighting chance
Go visit hatchery and wild coexist cause the group is trying to get hatchery fish to populate rivers again
Kris Barrow already did
MonJcFarland5 👏🏻
Thanks for noting that there are other human activities that negatively impact wild fish - we have spent decades fighting dams and development along rivers, check out our film Damnation for a taste of our advocacy on this issue. And we’ve given over $20 million in grants to over 3,000 different groups working on these issues on a local level. We’re concerned about hydropower dams, harvest, hatcheries and habitat - or, as the film notes, the “4 H’s.” With Artifishal, we did want to focus in on hatcheries and open-water net pen fish farming, as they simply haven’t received as much of the spotlight - and, we are deeply concerned about the ongoing rhetoric that these practices are solutions to our problems, particularly when you look at the science. Check out this link for a review of some of the scientific papers that backed up our concerns as we made the film: nativefishsociety.org/science/hatcheries
I re-watch this film regularly and it reminds me of why I am such a strong supporter of organizations in this fight, and a frequent customer of Patagonia. This, and other Patagonia films, are expensive to produce. The filming and editing is top notch, whether short or full length. And I find the investment in producing a film and releasing it, for free, throughout social media, is maybe the single most effective way to get the message out to the broader public. This method scales, is free to distribute, available any time and any place, and is shareable. Thank you Patagonia for supporting the documentary film makers and getting this message out.
PS - i heard Yvon Chouinard state that he was starting a foundation that can accept donations to continue this good work. How can I contribute?
I have watched this entire video and am grateful for its production. I have admired the clean river systems shown on TV from Australia of your beautiful country. We in Australia also have small rivers that are not polluted in our mountains we call the high country which I got to fish in my youth about 1970 onwards.
The people of China need to look at what your people are doing to protect your future. The Chinese rivers have turned into the worlds largest sewerage systems because of the thousands of dams, the high powered politicians greed to make money from their rivers have in fact turned into disasters of filth. Their rivers can no longer flush the human excrement and other pollutants that stagnate the water.
Keep up your good work from Australia.
you need to do some research there buddy china leads the world in green technology and environmentally friendly development. the whole blame China thing is a little played out. lots of gold mining and metal smelting in Australia I'm sure there must be all kinds of toxic effluent being dumped in to rivers In your country that great barrier reef is in pretty bad shape these days I heard.
I want to thank everyone involved with this video. It takes tons of connections to make the discovery of the truth in what happened, then getting so lucky as to getting the video proof at the pens your dive couple people. I felt after you were told to leave that they may take your footage. You are teaching the world how to better manage the environment to get salmon back to being sustainable. have done a great service to not only the native Americans but to all people around the world.
I live in Western North Carolina, the same thing is happening to streams here. All are stocked from hatcheries. The water is becoming too warm for trout to survive, along with silt and human waste from camping and development. The earth is suffering from man's arrogance. Great documentary, I hope it changes things...
The people sport fishing have been fighting for habitat long before it was a trend
Yes we have
Sure have buddy!
Joshua Vanderschaaf 👍👍yes we have in Ontario Canada
Exactly we have, we love wild places wild thing and creatures but we like to fish and eat the occasional one we don’t leave trash on river banks either .
Hunters and most fishermen are the real conservationists.
Imagine how critical is the situation in Chile if it is at least 10 times worse than the reality in Norway! Thanks for sharing it, we're waiting for the public release for months.
hatchery-wild-coexist.com/
Check out Estado Salmonero, our short film about Chilean hatcheries.
I worked in fish farming for many years. Trout, Salmon, Catfish and I was saying all this when i was involved in the industry back in the 1990's. The chemicals used, the pollution caused and the affects on the ecosystem. I started to question all this, and then I started to look at their feed. farmed fish need allot of protein which all comes from other fish caught in the sea in huge quantities. Many countries specifically head out to sea to catch fish destined only to be used to be processed in too pellets, to feed fish. Killing fish to feed fish for profit and destroy the environment.
Its alot of industries that are ass backwards...lol
Humankind has constantly ignored God and His message for too long. We act in the place of God who is the creator of nature and the universe. Our sheer arrogance and total disregard for God and His son Jesus Christ have brought all these miseries and miscalculations. Science with all its 'benefits' and ramifications cannot and will never replace God's message of salvation to humankind through His only begotten son Jesus Christ.
Therefore my friend if you desire to have eternal life after your short stay on earth then you must settle the sin factor through believing the atonement that Jesus Christ made on the cross of Calvary. All humankind is born as sinners and no sinner will inherit God's kingdom.
Please repent from your sins and give your life to Jesus Christ so that you can have the righteousness of God which is only in Jesus.
@@chiadinwarie9444 There is no such thing as god. It might be a good idea, not to use this platform to push your religion. thank you.
@@ThomasMorleyceramics Ps.14.1 - The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
The Holy Bible says only fools say there is no God. Repent from your sins my friend and accept the salvation in Jesus Christ before it's too late.
@@chiadinwarie9444 Piss off moron
really enjoyed watching the kids articulate the need for a hands off approach to nature
Oh dear, that lovely girl at 29:00 She nailed the meaning to be 'specific in the area'. 😇 Thanks a lot for doing this film. Thanks a lot. I really appreciate. 🥺
There is no right way to do the wrong thing.
One of Yvon's best ever lines!
@Patagonia can we have that line printed on ecological cotton T-Shirts? :)
@@yeti78 You mean the $60 ones?
The wrong thing is messing with the world... Building dams... The wrong "right thing" is the fishery. Why do it artificially when Nature did it perfectly already?
@@superymariowest2403 no the wrong thing is murder.
We attended a meeting with a number of groups which also had wild fish groups. One point made that was for sure agreeable on all sides is "Dams are not regulated for healthy fish runs". The idea was to combine groups to go after Army Corps to force them to regulate so we have healthy runs of salmon and Steelhead. Especially the Spring and Summer returns that require cool water till in the fall.
We use to fish the South Santiam River every year starting in June. Later summer months the flow would be so low that fish were piled in holes. Plus the temp of the water was too warm. That is all due to poor regulating of dams. I can remember one year they released a huge amount of water from all the dams. Then not enough rain to fill the lakes up again. That summer was really bad for any salmon and Steelhead. Marinas on Detroit Lake had their docks laying on dry ground. A lot of fish had to of died that year because of what was done.
Hatchery fish are not what is causing the drop in the wild fish population. A lot of false theories being used and some based on old hatchery practices that are not used anymore. It is time to realize Hatchery and Wild do Coexist.
Bob Askey well said
Humankind has constantly ignored God and His message for too long. We act in the place of God who is the creator of nature and the universe. Our sheer arrogance and total disregard for God and His son Jesus Christ have brought all these miseries and miscalculations. Science with all its 'benefits' and ramifications cannot and will never replace God's message of salvation to humankind through His only begotten son Jesus Christ.
Therefore my friend if you desire to have eternal life after your short stay on earth then you must settle the sin factor through believing the atonement that Jesus Christ made on the cross of Calvary. All humankind is born as sinners and no sinner will inherit God's kingdom.
Please repent from your sins and give your life to Jesus Christ so that you can have the righteousness of God which is only in Jesus.
At the mouth of every of these west coast river systems there are thoussnds of seals that massacare th salmon worse than any humans have ever done, they can wipe out entire runs of salmon un checked , thats majority of the decline of pacific salmon all species
@@marcusblymyer7441 there is a group trying to get a native food harvest started for seals and sealions i think they are called pacific balance society. they are conducting test hunts and analysis of the meat.
so glad somebody said it.
A few mixed facts, lots of emotions. I have no idea what to think after watching this.
SageHide That’s how this made me feel as well.
well stop eating farmed Salmon duh
go vegan
Humankind has constantly ignored God and His message for too long. We act in the place of God who is the creator of nature and the universe. Our sheer arrogance and total disregard for God and His son Jesus Christ have brought all these miseries and miscalculations. Science with all its 'benefits' and ramifications cannot and will never replace God's message of salvation to humankind through His only begotten son Jesus Christ.
Therefore my friend if you desire to have eternal life after your short stay on earth then you must settle the sin factor through believing the atonement that Jesus Christ made on the cross of Calvary. All humankind is born as sinners and no sinner will inherit God's kingdom.
Please repent from your sins and give your life to Jesus Christ so that you can have the righteousness of God which is only in Jesus.
@@chiadinwarie9444 Yeah, just don't eat salmon :)
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nunca había visto los filmes de Patagonia... en verdad era justo y necesario un espacio en el que el cine pudiera transmitir con tanta belleza, las acciones necesarias para construir un mundo más justo y sostenible. Gracias!!
This is the most important film I’ve seen in a long while. I hope more people can take this to heart and act upon these ideas. Thank you to everyone involved
Here in BC we catch a lot of American hatchery fish, we love it, send more!
That young girl talking while throwing the frozen hatchery fish is incredible. Good to see young smart children.
I kept looking at the title of this movie and I could not figure out the spelling of 'Artificial'. Once I clicked on it and read the description it finally made some sense. Very clever play on the word.
Time to smoke another joint, man. You will understand, shine on you crazy diamond.
Fantastic work team Patagonia I hope more and more people wake up to the truth no matter where they live on the map - We are literally on Wild Salmon life support and even more then that, we may be on humanity life support. We always have been if you think of the term, yet to have become so disconnected with the harmony of life makes me wonder if we ever have been. Yet I hope together we can muster up the fortitude to find the harmony with life and death and come to terms with how tied together we all are with the natural world and submit to the fact, it's simply just not going to happen on our terms.
Very interesting and thought-provoking documentary. I often fish for trout and wonder if these same problems are apparent in those populations, especially in the southeastern United States where ecosystems are not as healthy as those out west.
Healthy ecosystems out west?
Development of watersheds and pollution in the Puget Sound region have the salmon runs in a terrible state. Without hatchery fish the wild fish would become extinct from predation in no time.
So very sad breaks my ❤️ keep up the good work never stop GOD BLESS 🇬🇧👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
what a movie, congratulations, art, science, and education interconected
NO. What science? I challenge you to find me a scientist who truly believes hatcheries are responsible for the decline of our salmon stocks. Do your own research. Eliminate hatcheries, eliminate the species, it is truly that simple.
@@mrvvrm5951 hatcheries and fish farms are different. You need to understand this simple fact before even beginning to make an argument here. I struggled to find a single sentence in your response that made any sense to a sane person. I’ve come to the conclusion that you are either insane or English is not your first, or even your second, language.
People don't realize how compatible hatchery fish are with wild fish and the environment once you've eliminated bad hatchery practices. There's so many studies that were conducted improperly that drew the conclusion that hatchery fish were inferior on the genetic level and letting them breed with wild fish would reduce wild fish fitness and what we've come to know today is that hatchery management, not hatchery fish genetics lead to poor integration with wild fish and natural spawning.
Genetics does play a part but that is cured by management reform.
Thank you for this important film.
I read about a month ago a book titled "Eat like a Fish" by Bren Smith, which was a great book, He goes over all the problems of aquaculture that this documentary also states and explains their effects. Funny enough, he actually meets up with the Founder of Patagonia, Yvon CHouinard, who is madly obsessed with this problem. Fish farming has caused so much problems already, Kelp and 3d underwater farming could solve this ongoing problem, only problem being Kelp is not that widely accepted in society. I also highly recommend the book "Eat like a fish", certainly not a page-turner at some parts, but still very informative.
I’m very blessed to live on the Great Lakes with a very healthy salmon fishery and size just keeps increasing!
Those aren’t even natural and damage lake trout stocks and coaster brook trout 🤷♂️.
matanuska high good we don’t want lakers in Lake Michigan
TC 24 steelhead too . But aging city ,town sewage systems ,winter road salting leeching in heavy metals ,run off fertilizer pesticides and herbicides,damage populations of fish in great lakes . Many streams in southern great lakes are dredged and denuded of vegetation which provides cover and keep water cooler in summer causing thermal pollution of streams and rivers .This thermal pollution had ruined attempts to re introduce Atlantic salmon to Lake Ontario. The temperature of spawning rivers in August early September is way to high for Atlantic salmon in Lake Ontario
TC 24 why ? They were likely native to the lake
nick king over populated and greasy
This video showed the first start of the problem. That problem is man and a dollar. Man continue to be the problem. Man create the problem and keep the problem going man will never learn. So sad...
Checking the QR-Code on the salmon I ate + the label "open water fish farm" brought me here...it's all about raising awareness. Thanks to all the people fighting for a balanced future! Keep going!
Shout out from South Africa Elgin grabouw. Awesome vids. Keep to your beliefs cause it's what makes you true to yourself . Awesome thanks.
im glad that people understand you can't make a man made population, the industrial model has never worked, awesome video
When the last tree is cut, the last fish is caught, and the last river is polluted; when to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize, too late, that wealth is not in bank accounts and that you can't eat money
This really opened my eyes to a problem I had no clue about.!
I really like salmon, so I was really curious about what the movie would be about. First of all, I knew for the first time that salmon were being artificially raised like this. It was so heartbreaking that this happened due to human greed and I thought I should try to protect wild fish. Also, I felt that the environment was very polluted because I found out that it was the third movie I made about environmental protection, and I wanted to watch both movies. I decided to recommend this softening to people around me and let them know the seriousness of environmental pollution.
Inspiring, thank you very much! Reducing the consumption of fish significantly (especially that from fish hatcheries and fish farms), by prioritising a diet which is predominantly plant-based, really is important for restoring the balance between People and Nature.
Keep putting out more eductional informing videos. Outstanding. Thank you. Would great to see you do more in a “series” and continue this on other fish and waterways.
I’ve watched the Public Lands video, agin would like to see you conitnue in a “series” like production.
This was a really good film. This film open my eyes
I love the participants on the water. Great signs were held up high amd proud to be protectors of all life and earth. Woo made me cry
This video should have Alot more than 3.5 million veiws.
There are PLENTY of rivers that are not dammed that have just as bad returns of Salmon/Steelhead. There are also rivers like the Fraser river where the entire lower portion is diked off, completely ruining the wetlands the juvenile fish used to flourish in. Yet the runs still fluctuate, and on some years are even very large returns of Salmon. To me this points to ocean survival being the main factor at play here. There are some studies out of the University of British Columbia that indicate that from 30-50%+ of juvenile salmon are eaten by seals alone, not to mention all the other animals that predate on juvenile salmon. Then there are the massive fluctuation on ocean conditions from year to year. At sea the salmons food sources fluctuate, the temperatures fluctuate, diseases, pollution, overfishing, etc. There are plenty of rivers that are not dammed and have a natural estuary yet the runs are struggling. We keep polluting the ocean and expect things to change but they just keep getting worse despite our efforts on land.
The entire planet needs to change its ways of destroying the earth for short term gain if things are ever to change, and some argue that it is already too late for that. The average person can only do so much when mega corporations and the rich who control the world are making these large scale ecological decisions to profit off the ocean while polluting and destroying it.
It's always dark before the dawn a time of change is coming . the world is being poisoned by money it always has been the root of all evil
The fish farms have devastated the salmon fishery!!! Fact!!!
I took the bait & this fish film schooled me.
LoL Good pun This film will start many conversations. And some will miss certain critical facts and take up chasing down empty rabbit hole. But at least we have a good film and so the necessary conversations begin.
So, all we have to do is stop stocking fish in our waters, and wild fish populations will recover? Stop wasting tax dollars? I'm in. Let's do it.
Well done , Sir: As fish die , nature die and vanished, people will die and vanish.
So 80% of hatchery fish are lost to commercial fishing, that sounds like the root cause to me!
Thank you Patagonia for a shockingly educational movie. I had never given much thought to where my fish dinner came from. (I'm too busy "hugging trees" ) Tasmania (home for me) has huge salmon fisheries. I will need to investigate this further....btw the 7th grader Autumn, she gets it, why can't the rest of us?
This was an amazing watch. Really glad to have learned about this. Are there any updates or places to find updates on the progress of the dam removals and efforts to move away from hatcheries?
Tons of dam removal content on youtube
I did not expect john Oliver to be in a fish documentary. Also this was my first fish documentary and as a fisherman, I will watch more of these.
Humankind has constantly ignored God and His message for too long. We act in the place of God who is the creator of nature and the universe. Our sheer arrogance and total disregard for God and His son Jesus Christ have brought all these miseries and miscalculations. Science with all its 'benefits' and ramifications cannot and will never replace God's message of salvation to humankind through His only begotten son Jesus Christ.
Therefore my friend if you desire to have eternal life after your short stay on earth then you must settle the sin factor through believing the atonement that Jesus Christ made on the cross of Calvary. All humankind is born as sinners and no sinner will inherit God's kingdom.
Please repent from your sins and give your life to Jesus Christ so that you can have the righteousness of God which is only in Jesus.
@@chiadinwarie9444 Do you have any bible verses that come to mind, when watching this film?
Amazing video, great job. Unfortunately, large corporations are ruining UK runs of sea trout and salmon, but I believe we are starting to see the damage fish farms and trawlers do to our wild fish. Hopefully, with all the effort people like yourself are putting in to educating people, the future will be bright for our fantastic fish.
Save the river and save the fish we need our earth back.
They dont explain the differences between broodstock hatchery and hatcheries that use man made genetics. Addicted fishing explains it very well recommend watching there input
Mike Bradford
Did you read all of the science links given in the pinned comment by Patagonia?
All i know is no one will support giving up hydroelectric and the dams are not going anywhere i live near Coleman fish hatchery and support what they do i also fish the waters and catch hatchery and wilds they coexist together i see it with my own eyes
Mike Bradford Nope they are not the best spot for unbiased opinions on this topic.
This is so retarded!! All the Hatcheries around me are closed now, no steelhead in any streams, you guys are so full of shit it makes me sick. There is no issue with broodstock !!!! Wild and hatchery can coexist. I’m tired of these stupid liberals trying to be all natural and make everything wild for no damn reason just because they don’t give a damn to fish. It makes me sick that all these streams have no returns anymore because all the hatcheries are closed. 🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿
Mike Bradford lmfao stop drinking the addicted kool aid
Don't give up keep the fight on.
Amazing.
When I was just a child I have visited old castle in Europe, they had on display some hunting trophies (stuffed animals) from hundreds of years ago , I have immediately noticed one thing those animals were huge , much bigger than what I have seen alive today . Wild boar , elk and even eagle that was scary big . So the stories I have heard about the old world turned out to be the truth .
Took me a while to realise what has caused this , the main reason was hunting, the human hunters always went for the biggest fittest and healthy animal leaving the weak ones to breed , this is the exact opposite of how nature works , the wolf pack will pick the weakest , sick or genetically disadvantaged animal that is the easiest to catch and eat . So only the fittest will survive to pass the genes . So we affected the natural selection and in the long term created lesser quality animal populations .
Of course the environmental damage and other human influences have contributed also .
Funny thing is that people have been smaller back then .
We are good at shooting our selfs in the foot and not even realise in our ignorance .
Watching those two fish farmers kill wild fish to steal eggs that would have been born in the wild is one of the most bewildering and saddest things I've seen in my life.
Stupidity.. farming these fish from my perspective isnt the solution. A good start would be getting rid of commericial fishing.
@@coxyyy3202 sport fishing needs to stop too!!!!
@@justchirpin3080yeah the problem with that is the fishermen are the people who spend there lives watching the water and how the fish stocks behave and a true sportsman normally would practice catch and release so if you axe sport fishing you inadvertently remove the waters biggest ambasadures so whether you would like it or not recreational fishing is one of our best ways of watching the rivers, lakes and sea
No mention of the pebble mine project that threatens the largest natural salmon run in the world?
There’s an agenda behind it
ensuring sustainability in nature is better option but its also good with little suitable modifications.
Amen to that and thank you.
I'm 55. My parents and grandparents said stuff like what can we build for future generations. Us and our children started to say what will leave for future generations.
If there were no hatcheries, salmon fisheries would be wiped out by now
Yes. Even in Alaska many rivers would be lost by now without the hatcheries.
Imagine if the money and marketing put into this went to active restoration projects, instead of attacking the one emerging industry that actually has the capability and profitability required to save the ocean from overfishing.
Im not saying that all of these practices are right, but aquaculture and fish farming is likely the only way to minimize our impact on the marine environment without demanding the whole world quits eating fish.
More farmed fish means more fish in the wild.
Imagine if every time you bought beef somebody had to launch an expedition into a borderline lawless prairie and shoot a wild bull.
Because that is the state of tuna fishing right now. As a unified human race we don't even do a good job regulating pelagic fishing, and we certainly don't have a clue how to farm them at scale.
What a beautiful film 😭
Why don't people just leave nature alone. I am so annoyed by what I have seen,
this is disturbing to me.
Factory anything is not good.
I thank you for this video, Patagonia. Excellent document.
Our rivers are the Life Blood of the American Dream we can develop and live with our environment in a clean efficient manor without destroying the habitat other species live in and that help us to become better managers of the World God gave us.
There will always be problems when any food is industrialised. as long as you consume and mass harvest to keep up with demand. I'm not a vegan or vegetarian but I am now more concious about my animal product consumption after seeing and reading about the impact its having on the environment. I only eat meat and dairy products very limited now. More habitats are being destroyed everyday which can never be fully restored for maximum bio diversity which will provide wild animals all the nutrition they need to thrive. Unfortunately it is too late to restore the natural world but we can save what little we have left. In an ideal world I think food should be localised to feed your community where it would be much easier to monitor consumption and minimise waste and lessen the impact massively on the environment. We live in a world driven by economy and big meat eaters so we might win little battles but the war will always carry on. Humans need for control is suffocating.
that's very good that you are becoming more aware of the problems our consumption of esp animal products is causing, and I applaud you for at least partly aligning your actions with your findings! 🙌
Plleeeeeeenty of problems with industrially farmed plant foods as well, don't let the vegans fool you. But good on you for trying to make a change.
Incredible production... i will definitely be sharing
On the whole Patagonia did a good job explaining some of the issues Pacific Salmon face. Two things they kind of missed; 1. The little country to the north called Canada where most of America's Salmon must pass through. We catch a lot of WA, OR, and CA fish . Alaska catches a lot or ours. Overfishing remains the number one reason wild Salmon are in trouble, no one user group dominates, all contribute to the decline. 2. Climate Change, the ogre in the closet. Chinook, Coho, Sockeye, and Steelhead require one or two years in freshwater streams and lakes. Low snowpacks, mean water temperatures rise and too often unable to support fry and smolts. Drawdown by humans for irrigation, industry, and cities reduce flows further. Estuary and critical rearing areas are heavily impacted by humans. Sadly, for some rivers, hatcheries will remain the only alternative. Well done Patagonia. Come to BC, we have white bears here, :) and share responsibility for the Orcas
Don, sure blame your smaller salmon runs on my Alaska, your a joke! You want to try and tell me how Alaska has the healthiest salmon runs in the world still? We have managed it well, unlike Canada and Washington and Oregon! We just had another record return of sockeye in Bristol bay region, which is the largest salmon run on earth!
You could all learn from our fishery in Alaska, we have plenty of habitat, clean water and no dams, plus we have managed our fishery the best!
@@troyottosen8722 The Bristol Bay is amazing. The socks are getting smaller. There is too many Pink in the north Pacific competing for food. Ocean ranching to your south will ultimately take its toll. Ocean conditions are changing. Climate change is real. Enjoy will you still can. I didn't blame anyone.
Don Fowler , climate change? We have set temperature records here in Alaska the past ten or so years! We just had the largest sockeye return ever to Bristol bay! I agree with you on the hatchery fish competing with wild stock, however your bc fishery problems are not from Alaska, I remember well when your prince Rupert fishermen blockaded our Alaskan ferry boats! Bc would be a ghost town if it wasn’t for American tourists driving up the Alaskan highway and providing business for your small bc towns along the route! Talk crap now!😉👍
Don Fowler , One more thing, talk to orca biologists in bc and Southeast Alaska, they think orca are actually targeting bigger kings! They are smart, also Kong’s are getting smaller in Alaska, look at the kenai, largest strain of kings anywhere, used to be common to catch 60-75 lb kings, not anymore!
Around smyth Co in Virginia there used to be lots of small dams in small streams and I guess they were used to power small mills and such. I fish a lot and I've noticed that every single one of these dams have been removed in recent years
Thank you
At least we're starting to rebuild our hatchery runs. We need to plug all of our hatcheries to maximum.
Hatcheries are not the problem! Pollution, dams and other environmental factors are the main culprits. Patagonia has an agenda and it is to make money
We need hatcheries or there would be no fishery and many of the wild runs we have now would not even exist. Many wild runs were re-introduced by using hatchery fish.
Good example of why there is a lack of wild fish and hatcheries are necessary is all the dams east of the Willamette River block prime spawning streams. There use to be runs of over 500,000 every year and the dams blocked the wild fish from their spawning areas. None of the dams have a way to get them past and smolts down. Elevators in these dams are shot and did little. ODFW has done tests and research and found a number of problems like smolts released in lakes with many fingers is not good. Smolt will go up every finger looking for a way out of the lake. There needs to be a way to collect smolt and get them down river. Each dam would require a unique system to get salmon and Steelhead above the dams. Plus Steelhead return to the ocean to come back another year. These dams will never be removed because they control flooding. Little has been done if anything about this situation. Wild fish groups are aware of the situation but still claim hatcheries are the problem. That just isn't true. Without hatcheries we would not even have the fish we have now and many wild runs would not exist. Hatchery and Wild do coexist.
Thanks for explaining Bob! It makes so much sense! Do you think Patagonia has it right for the most part in this docu?
@@bobvandervliet6394 I think Patagonia has a lot wrong in their thinking. First hatcheries are not the problem to say they are is a absolute lie. I believe salmon are doomed to a point and it is to do with a lot of things over harvest many years ago, countries harvesting our salmon on the ocean, weather, ocean conditions, river conditions and a lot of predators now inhabit the rivers eating both adults and the smolt heading to the ocean. It is a gamut of obstacles for any fish to get through. I find it a miracle that any salmon return after all they have to go through.
Just found this today when I was looking for wild fish documentaries and decided to watch this instead.im glad they looked at both sides of the argument I think fish hatcheries can be used to help the decline in fish and feed the over population of people that we have in this day in age but not like how we are doing it now.
SAVE WILD FISH
SAVE WILD FISH
SAVE WILD FISH
I think they need to rethink commercial fishing and how it is done worldwide.I am not picking on commercial fishing, but I think it would make the biggest impact if modified.
I grew up around the Cowlitz River in Washington State and I can tell you the loss of wild fish is very real. I remember as a child in the 80's there were a lot of wild fish but I stopped fishing in 2017 because I realized I was part of the problem. For me it was sport and I don't need to catch fish. The natives of the Americas and the resources of North America have been mostly destroyed. I have been deemed a liberal for feeling like this and that too is very sad.
That Autumn kid is smart. Can I vote her for president?
#Autumn2020
I am more confused after watching this than before. Who are the "bad guys"? What are the solutions? What's the relationship between farms and hatcheries? Who owns/runs these? Who funds them? Public or corporate?I'm left with too many unanswered questions. This is all over the map. Lack of clarity and focus. A missed chance for helping inform the general public who will likely not finish watching this.
Danny K hatcher is are funded by government and local sources. Open net salmon farms are private corporations that care little about the wild fish they put directly in harms way.
So in a nutshell, they’re both bad, but the farms really don’t care about anything aside from making money.
Danny K maybe if you had an opinion you wouldn’t need to hear someone else say it for u
@@BobMarley-vl5gl Thats a little mean spirited; I think. Opinions formed with only partial information are one thing, but decisions made with great ignorance can cause danger. Finding agreement on one side or another is how we all behave; we ALL don't know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING. Otherwise the world would be run by 10 people. Yet decisions and policies are made every hour out there. Maybe cut some slack. Have a good one.
These guys are cons blending actual facts with binary idolotry regarding the source of the issue. This is not a one sided story. It needs to be addressed from allot of different angle. Brood stocking may be a healthy alternative to are current situation but that only helps one issue. Please be I formed about the varying issues and prioritize the more significant causes of our fishery issues.
Humankind has constantly ignored God and His message for too long. We act in the place of God who is the creator of nature and the universe. Our sheer arrogance and total disregard for God and His son Jesus Christ have brought all these miseries and miscalculations. Science with all its 'benefits' and ramifications cannot and will never replace God's message of salvation to humankind through His only begotten son Jesus Christ.
Therefore my friend if you desire to have eternal life after your short stay on earth then you must settle the sin factor through believing the atonement that Jesus Christ made on the cross of Calvary. All humankind is born as sinners and no sinner will inherit God's kingdom.
Please repent from your sins and give your life to Jesus Christ so that you can have the righteousness of God which is only in Jesus.
Thoughtful !
Cried many times during this film. A good humbler. Thank you
"Loss of faith in Nature is the problem"
Humankind has constantly ignored God and His message for too long. We act in the place of God who is the creator of nature and the universe. Our sheer arrogance and total disregard for God and His son Jesus Christ have brought all these miseries and miscalculations. Science with all its 'benefits' and ramifications cannot and will never replace God's message of salvation to humankind through His only begotten son Jesus Christ.
Therefore my friend if you desire to have eternal life after your short stay on earth then you must settle the sin factor through believing the atonement that Jesus Christ made on the cross of Calvary. All humankind is born as sinners and no sinner will inherit God's kingdom.
Please repent from your sins and give your life to Jesus Christ so that you can have the righteousness of God which is only in Jesus.
@@chiadinwarie9444 STOP SPAMMING
greed and huberis will be the end of us all.
What an eye opener,truly exposes the errors of our ways ,and we need to make the wrongs right again and give these wonderful animals a chance to get back to where they were ,before we stuffed up the system.Like it was stated in this film,the fish know what to do ,we just need to let them do it unhindered. Fantastic film, very thought provoking. Good luck to all for fighting for these fish in this river.
I hear lots of complaints about the way things are done, but I've read no (zero) solutions. It's easy to talk about problems with the way we've don't business, but without solutions they are just complaints. are there solutions?
I think you should put Autumn at 29 min in charge, a very smart little girl.
Robert Eddy 😑
the numbers that they have put in this docuentary are not self sustaining with hatcheries and will be even less so without hatcheries. to pick up populations we must completely stop commercial fishing hatcheries are not perfect but they make the numbers more sustainable than without said hatcheries. if all hatchery fish died we would still be depleting number of wild salmon there is no evidence to back up the claim that hatchery salmon weaken the genes of genetic salmon
they do fight wilds for food tho osu did a study on it
It makes lm
It make s me weep but keep up the good work JH uk
greetings from Indonesia, the Aru Islands, Maluku province on the Indonesian border with Australia
This is the best video, hands down.
Man that little girl at 29:00 knows her stuff. Impressed!