Hydraulic Log Splitter BUILD Part 5 - FIRST TEST!
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- Building a hydraulic wood splitter from scratch. Getting the hydraulics connected for testing in this video. It looks super ugly and not tidy at all as far as hydraulic line routing goes but it works. Finally. After blowing up a couple of old rotten many decades old hoses whilst testing the hydraulic splitter. And yeah - entirely covered the workshop floor with old and new hydraulic fluid. What a mess! Fabricated the steel frame from scratch to my personal liking in previous videos. In this video I'm fabricating a slide for the split wood to be directed straight into a IBC (intermediate bulk container) crate. Due to the lack of power on the timber trailer hydraulic power pack maybe a dedicated hydraulic system on-board the wood splitter is needed. Both the cylinder and valve block are possibly subjects to change, if needed. The splitter has now wheels, hydraulically adjustable 2-& 4-way wedge and a log loading deck. I said I want to get this built in a few weeks and already needed to use it yesterday and as always I don't know what a deadline is. :) Stay tuned for a few more parts in this small series. And finally, I hope, I can use both the 4x4 timber trailer with hydraulic crane and this hydraulic splitter together in a video. And let's not forget the homemade UTV.
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GREAT JOB MAN!!! CONGRATULATIOS!!!
Great thing about youtube, none of the work gets canceled. I really enjoy watching your videos.
The high speed might work better on the return stroke?
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Maybe you know this already. But there have been some very tragic poisoning accidents when a micro hole in a hydraulic hose has cut through someone's skin and a very tiny, almost invisible jet of oil came into their blood. This is lethal.
It is not leathal but really dangerous for that particular muscle or bodypart since hydraulic oil starts immediately to dissolve those tissues affected by oil injected.
Correct treatment in these cases is surgical procedure to remove oil injected into tissues. Otherwise it will lead into tissue detoriation and perhaps amputation of that body part. So really dangerous yes but probably not leathal.
I have heard too that those pinhole jets can cut meat.
I guess the key issue is that pressure holding component is the wire mesh inside the hose and it rusts. Once the mesh strands loose their strenght, pressure penetrates the rubber and textile material.
Hydraulic injection has killed many
@@tujuprojects internal rubber hose can have a pinhole in it too and then oil enters the wire braid layer of hose and oli is free to travel length wise and then outbursting somewhere as a pinhole or outburst. Usually these damages occur right next to grimped hose ferrule since this area is most stressed with bending of the hose. If hose is bend too much it opens holes in the wire braid layer and inner tube has nothing to lean against on (like you mentioned already) and that potentially creates internal pin hole too just waiting to be cracking outside
I learned the old hose lesson, back in the late 70's. False economy, especially when you are in the bush, very far from town.
ход назад наверно стоило сделать в обратку и пружину поставить,быстрей срабатывало
Thank you for sharing this video Very useful and inspiring .. great ..! Greetings from a traditional prospector 🇮🇩⚒️⛏️💕❤️👍👍👍
All oil tries to escape back to the earth
Considering the condition of your hydraulic hoses, I am wondering if you might do well to get new ones with Quick Disconnect fittings instead of using threaded ones. A separate portable hydraulic power pack might have other applications besides the splitter, for which the efficiency of QD fittings might be quite beneficial. Great build series, Donn.
As a novice Hydraulics engineer/mechanic I would replace old hoses anyway. As hoses are relatively expensive you could use steel piping in stationary situations. Keep up the good work!
Nice splitter! I agree the main cylinder looks a little on the weak side. For a nice convenience upgrade you can ad a rod running back from the pusher with an adjustable finger that hits the hydraulic lever to stop the return. Then you don't have to do it manually, and you can set how far back it retracts.
Same thought, no fun to watch return of Piston till closed, change the valve to have stopped once pressured reached when closed. I think that's what it would be called....... Thanks Donn.... :)
Donn I think you would need to go to a 10 or 12 cm diameter cylinder with a pump putting out around 200 bar. I'm not sure if my math is exactly right!! That should give you about 18 tons of force.
I would like to make one suggestion as retired Hydraulics specialist, purchase or find a copy of NAVAIR 01-1A-17 " it is the Aviation Hydraulics Manual very useful information,(found mine on EBAY) especially hose type and rating. and inspection many other useful facts and parts listings. most hoses should not be used past their 7-year shelf. it just leads to bad things. Love your work. Great tool. i picked up manual splitter early fall, haven't gotten around to refurbish, cause its heavy got take into my basement.
I still remember the first video I saw, when you turned a pulley out of recycled aluminium. And now this, you continue to amaze, inspire and entertain. :) Thx.
Хороший аппарат получился!!! Сам себя смазывает..!!!
Very nice but why such a long stroke ram when you slab your wood to the length of your fire?
you need a overload valve return to take away the excess pressure.
You could pull the guides off, turn them up-side down and then slide them back onto the mounts so they are more like fenders.
Merci beaucoup pour le partage de cette belle vidéo intéressante 👍 merci pour l'explication, je suis très content de toi 👍, très bon travaille, bravo bon courage et bonne chance 🙏 salutations à vous 🙏🙋🏆👍🙏
Every good workshop has a “thinking stool” with wheels on it!! Good work Donn! 👍🏻
I't's Way to slow you'll be there all day just to make 1000 cords or wood.😉😉👍👍Prove me wrong with a time test. ----->I would of welded a 45* bump ramp on the right side to kick slide the wood splits to the left side to be collected or conveyer away or vise versa.
Esimese jagaja sissetulev surveliin, sinna ühendatakse spetsiaalse CO (carry over) klapiga ka teise jagaja surveliin. Mõlema jagaja tagasivoolud siis kokku ja paaki. Seda ka juba eespool keegi mainis, et muidu võib esimese jagaja korpuse puruks lasta. Lisaks jah, need paarsada eurot voolikute pealt (kasvõi vaid katsetuse hetkel) kokkuhoitud raha ei vääri terviseriski. Aga ehitused on asjalikud-leidlikud!
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Hello🙋♂️ from the Netherlands🇳🇱 .
thanks for the video Donn .
Sincerely, Hollandduck 🇳🇱🦆
Great Job. You need to make a log catcher table, so everything does not fall to the ground. You need to get some new hyd. hoses, you don't want to get sprayed with Hot Hyd. Oil if one breaks later on. Be Safe, Not Sorry.
Already did everything you mentioned in the follow-up videos 👍
If it were my splitter I'd be concerned having two speeds extending the ram could cause an accident. I'd swap the line/valve running the high speed to the return instead. Awesome work nonetheless.
I'm from Brazil. Watch all your videos and I like it very much!!! Thanks!!!
Покажи как, чем, дом отапливаешь.
An interesting addition might be a chainsaw mounted on a vertical carriage next to the loader, for cutting to length. You could set up skids on the job site (could be as simple as a metal ladder on the ground) and feed pretty long log sections over the loader. Chop to length, flip the section up onto the splitter, feed the log again for the next cutoff. Repeat until the beer runs out.
He already built one like that!
@@darrinrebagliati5365 I'll check it out. Thanks!
Something I never said in school: "That's some sweet geometry!" 😁
I am not sure if this splitter is strong enough to make a 8 way splitter. I do think it would be worth the effort to try and make one that you can swap out.
You burn pine for heat?
I had a woodburner for 20 years. Only used pine to start the fire. Is that all that you have?
Doesn't it soot up your chimney?
Esse rachador de lenha fico muito bom! 🇧🇷
Nice! Aren't you soon going to tire of having the pieces fall to the ground, picking them up again, so you can split them again.
Why do you have splitter lever going towards back for the ram to go forward..............
Hydralic conveyor to fill those metal totes you use would be cool. Your an awesome fabricator and I love your videos
If I recall right Donn has done one conveyor already... Maybe that one will be integrated in future episodes and getting rid of those upwards pointing side pans.
@ 9:44 Wow, that workbech is just ................Perfect !!! ;-)
Thanks Donn! 👌🏻🎅🏻🔧🔧🔧
So many great ideas that you have incorporated in this unit!
А старый дровокол где?
May I ask why a log splitter, when you built a complete Wood Processor?
Just can't figure out why yet.🤷♂️
Love ALL your videos, so build whatever you want it's fine with me🤪
Nice build I would for sure consider stepping up my push cylinder between a 3 or 4 inch bore.. Not sure th size you have but a 2.5 in bore at 3000 PSI will put down 12,265 psi, A 3.5 in bore will put down 24,040 psi & a 4 in bore will put down 31,400 psi. To figure it is the bore divided by 2 in order to get the radius then take radius times its self then that # times 3.14 then that times the PSI of the pump. This will tell how much force a cylinder has extending out. Retracting you have to subtract the surface area of the shaft in the figure but no need to go into ito. But a bit more power you should be able to 1/4 one of those big logs no problem. I love the design
Man I'm kind of spooked out somone is scaring within the comment section again! Why would they make products harmful to people? I dought it! I was told that about all the other products I built with and I'm still alive! Now where talking about products, not people! Anyway what are your thoughts about hydrualic fluid don?
Why are you picking up those big logs for? with a loader arm there?
Külje plekid panid liiga ülemise ääre juurde. Need pannakse 10-15cm madalamale. Antud juhul hakkab oksliku pakuga kinni kiiluma. See sagedane viga omaehitatud masinatel. Kuvalda abiks. Aga tihti ka kiilu murrab maha.
I see you have used BSP fittings as your old hoses had those ends and new hoses are very expensive, but if you can, change to JIC fittings. JIC is a much better system, less leaks, easy to tighten and once tightened the fittings don’t stretch and become useless like BSP does.
Now all you have to make is a hopper on wheels... to save.on bending down and picking all the wood up.
Could you have a return censor so you don't have to manually return the piston.
Do you have a conveyor to transfer the split pieces to a dry storage place, if working outside?
Get the largest rod available as it will reduce the retract time and speed up the cycle time considerably. I had a 127mm diameter cylinder with a 89mm rod and it took it about 7seconds to cycle from being fully retracted to fully extended and back to fully retracted..
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Soovitaks pigem kraap või lintkonveierit sinna otsa. Lõhkumiskirve all võiks panna resti, siis kukuvad laastud vahelt välja. Selle hüdro klapi küljes peaks olema ülerõhu ventiil, mis lööb tagasivoolu kui surve liiga suur. Vbolla see seadistada ohutule rõhule, et süsteem õhku ei lendaks.
I have a doubt, the main frame, made by a rectangular pipe, is strong enough??!normally, I see ipn profile.
Сделать механизм возврата на цилиндр, без участия ручного управления, с датчиком давления.
Ciao donn, a me servirebbe anche piccolo..meno professionale, servirebbe per attaccare alle prese idraulici del trattore 🚜 semplicissimo serve solo spaccare legna piccole, comunque è sempre un piacere vederti all'opera..sei veramente ingamba e bravissimo, ciao alla prossima 👍 👍
Nice machine. Why is the power stroke of the main cylinder faster than the return stroke, it’s usually the other way around. Is there some sort of flow restrictor built into the valve block?
This valve has a special rapid function, it redirects the oilflow coming from the upside of the piston to the bottom side. This way you have a high flow, but the pressure is quite a lot lower. So you have way less power in this function. The 2nd stage is normal operation and you have way more power.
There are also seperate blocks that switch automatically at a certain pressure.
@@markassink8552 thanks for the info, I had thought about a dream build with a 2 speed pto driven hydraulic pump but this type of valve sounds like a better option.
@@salzar4431 Is also a good alternative. I guess this is cheaper. If you need more hydraulic functions simultaneously I guess a double pump is a better option
Your going to miss out on such a free heat not doing it manually but I'd swap in an instant😕
I love this dude. He wants a splitter, he makes a splitter. No pussy footin around, all function.
You have plan to make more wedges and just changing it? Like 4 and 6way🤔
very good job, This engine with the hydraulic pump, have you seen it being built, assembled?
Ahh hydraulic oil spa😁 nice😁 the most slippery bath in the universe
Does it make any sense to have an auto return hydraulic valve for the main piston/ram? I'm not sure but I think it is pressure or position triggered.
This was a great build. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Vôiks teha ehk hüdrotorust (metallist) kogu setupi mis puulõhkuja küljes ja jätta siis ainult kaks liidestus kohta mida siis voolikuga saab ühendada ühe sisse ja teise välja.
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good, not retract all the way and moves all to the front..
I saw a similar build by an old fella. He added an adjustable chute to the end and it worked as a loader and pushed the split wood into the back of his truck. One less handling job.
beau boulot mis léger comme machine la est facile a fendre est du bois blanc et franc prend des souche pleine de nœuds avec ton petit vérin ira pas loin nous ici en France en bretagne avec du chêne de 100ans
I have a suggestion on how your ramps could fold. You could rig up hinges and use the push cylinder to lower it and raise it by attaching a removable rod that will quick connect to your pusher cylinder🤷♂️
mmm. how to pivot the slide? How about making it hook on, like cement mixer chute sections?
If youre going to use the ram to also push the wood up the ramp I would suggest upgrading it to a larger more powerful ram. For the ramp im sure you can fabricate some hinges so it easily folds and unfolds by hand. I would also make the ramp 1 entire section (not the 2 separate pieces as you will just end up with logs falling through and or getting jammed up inbetween. Make the side walls of the ramp 90 degrees so that no wood goes off the side and is corralled within the ramp.
LOS CHAPONES QUE HAS PUESTO SON UN ESTORBO LA MAKINA EN SI LAS DEJADO SOVERBIA AMIGO
it looks like your blades aren't sharpened properly. the horizontal had to be delivered sharpened in one direction. well, the second option is low power.
Is this for someone else? What happened to the firewood processor you built?
As soon as I think '...you need to do XYZ', you've done it and better!! This log splitter is looking really good!
I don't know why but I like watching wood split apart, it's somehow gratifying.
Gloups crunch!🍰
T🍬p wowwood...
make an introduction video about the hydraulic machine. I am very interested in the cc of the pump and the hp of the motor
How you connect second hydraulic Valve after first/ Maine Valve? From port T or N from first Valve. If from port T to P second Valve you willa be having the back pressure to first/ Maine valve if hydraulic cylinder from lifting góra to the end. This can damage the first Valve from T się.
Might as well put new hoses on it. That junk not going to work
What if you put a _second_ main cylinder instead of a large one? If you can use one cylinder to retract both then it might go faster.
I hope you have a Carbon Monoxide detector in your shop. It is not good practice to run a gas engine in a closed room or shop.
if you put a table on the opposite side to catch the split wood you wont have to walk around to pick it up to re split just a thought as i have a large splitter trev from australia
That's a lot of effort for chopping wood. How much wood do you have to cut up?
Maybe now you will test old hoses with a blowgun to know they are not clogged hehe...
I really enjoy your videos. I found your channel, when you were building your workshop. It's kinda funny we have both taken the same path with log splitters. My son and I started with splitting by hand. Then we got a hand splitter that was basically a hydrologic jack. Then I bought an electric splitter, we really thought we were big time when I got that. Last winter a friend of mine game me a gas splitter he said it was broake leaking hydrologic fluid everywhere, turned out the filter was loose. We actually run automatic trans fluid in it. Makes it work better when it cold. Thanks again for sharing
If you go with a larger hydraulic ram, i would also go with a shorter throw. Otherwise it will be slower. But once again, A nice design and build... Thumbs Up!
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It's coming along nicely. I believe the hydraulic ram on my splitter is 30 ton. I haven't had too many things that would stop it, maybe some REALLY knotty oak. I have a 16GPM 2-stage prince pump. Been working well for over 20 years. Looking forward to more!
With your home made utv, is there enough room to put a hydraulic pump driven by the crank pulley? You could use the air conditioning compressor pulley on the pump to be able to turn it on and off with a flip of a switch so it is not pumping continually. Then run lines to the front and rear bumper to use current and future hydraulic accessories. Then you wouldn't need to carry the power pack with you but may need a bigger fuel tank on the utv for the extra run time.
For safety's sake, perhaps your control leaver for activating the ram should be pulled to spit (same direction of travel of the ram) and pushed to retract the ram. Therefore if you accidently lean on the leaver, it will retract not advance the ram causing a possble pinch. Really enjoy yout work.
Молодчага!
there's something soothing and ASMR-like about you splitting logs
Отличная работа! Спину береги!)
I'd probably consider a small removable table at least on the backside to help with all the bending over to retrieve pieces that need more processing.....
Edit, and here we are at the end of the video with not only a table, but also a chute
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don't you have a big firewood processor?
Loving the progress! Not that it is needed, but what if the log slide folded over somehow to become fenders for the splitter tires when in storage or transport. You've already got it figured out by now though. Thanks for the video!
I can see a dedicated hydraulic power pack to set on your tow vehicle's bed .. to power any trailer or load requiring hydraulic power. I think you already have an air tank on that tow vehicle that you could use to blow down the splitter when work is done. The hydraulic power pack would have its own gas engine. You could hoist it onto the tow vehicle with an engine crane easily enough whenever you need it.
Nice idea, that desk and control of split trees.. It's not in any store-bought device..
Nice work once again! You could easily build Your own little bit bigger power pack from chinese 9HP or even bigger OHV engine to get a bit bigger pump to get higher flow still maintaining possibility to a higher pressure.
Would rather invest in a better automatic valve with auto return and fast mode.
No need for more power when the splitter work automatic while you grab the next log.
Maybe some sort of folding slide, like the ones u get on the back of a car transporter. When the fold up they're half the size.
Looking really good Donn, got it by the tail on a down hill drag. Stay safe an figger as you go on some of the parts. Those hoses were some real antiques weren't they? Catch you on the next one . Fred.
From what I can see on your video everything you've made is awesome the only thing that I made two different is use a two-stage pump and that splitter would split anything you put in front of it would never stop it
I would extende the tabel back towards the cylinder that way If you don't lower the loader the logs won't fall down after the first split and you would eliminate alot of bending when doing the second split