Eureka Mignon Espresso Grinder Tech Tips
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- Join Charles as he covers the most common questions regarding the Eureka Mignon series espresso grinders. He'll cover how to fix a jammed grinder, fine-tune your espresso shots, and adjust your grind for coarse brew methods. clivecoffee.co...
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I honestly don't think I'll find a better video to explain the nuances of this grinder on TH-cam, thank you!
agreed
Easy way to remember which way to turn the grinder setting: It works like any normal screw... Turn clockwise to tighten/finer, turn opposite to loosen/coarser.
I found the printing on the knob to be lacking in that respect, though the numbers help getting you close to previous settings quickly...
Thanks for this. Good tip!
This is an extremely helpful video and very easy to follow--thank you!
Thanks! I received mine yesterday and now I know how to handle it.
Great tips.
If switching between espresso and french press every day becomes tiring, I think it makes sense to get a cheap grinder just for french press, like the Delonghi KG79. Coarser grind doesn't seem to require a great quality grinder. Then the Eureka can stay at espresso setting all the time.
That’s my plan. I own a Bunn industrial grinder, and that will continue to be my ‘pot’ coffee grinder. The next few months will find me getting one of these grinders for espresso only, along with a single serving hopper-blower from Etsy
The better the grinder the less fines produced while grinding for pourover/immersion resulting in brighter and cleaner brew. So i have to disagree with your statement. Get the highest quality grinders for each (espresso and pourover) that you can afford
@@darkim1777 I use the KG79 for immersion and pourover, and am getting a very clean result - even with a french press, where you indeed do not want any fines.
I would say the Delonghi is good enough for middle to coarse grind.
Still, of course you remain correct: a better, more expensive grinder will produce better results. With diminishing returns/bucks, probably. I use a Eureka Mignon for espresso, but have to admit I never tried it for coarser grind.
We love our new Mignon. Thank you for stepping us through cleaning.
Thank you for the grind adjustment tips 💙
Hey Clive good content! Very clean and crisp audio and video quality :) I did feel just a little bit claustofobic by the tight framing but I loved the video! Keep it up
Easy to follow, precise and to the point. Great video 👍
Great video as usual Charles!
Don't forget if you very close adjusting the amount of coffee instead of grind size is also considerable, like 0,5-1 gram more or less also increasing / decreasing your extraction time.
Really. Bloody. Helpful. Thank you.
Glad it helped!
I got the Facile and it’s kind of a pain to get it dialed in.
Hi, great video... do you know how to calibrate so that 0 is when the burrs are touching? Thanks!
My Speciality zero has actually become the number 5 position (clockwise from the 0 position). espresso range is somewhere delicately between slightly before and just after the 0 spot. Shot times are extremely long, over 1 minute, but the taste is good. Anything in the 27 to 30 second range tastes very sour. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Using a QM Pathfinder and a Flair 58. The 58 helped confirm that temperature wasn't the problem.
Thanks for this video! I figured out that my adjusting of the grind while the hopper was open was causing the jams I've been experiencing.
So glad we could help!
Hi there! 😊☕️ I absolutely love your TH-cam channel, it has been super helpful for me and growing my “home barista” skills! I wanted to reach out to ask a couple questions about grind size for beans. I can’t seem to figure out the issue. I have the Eureka Mignon Silenzio grinder and order freshly roasted beans from local Coava coffee roasters. However, when I grind the beans they are grinding in a way that produces almost like sawdust particles where it spits out onto the counter and I end up with a watery/light shot even though my espresso grind is on the finest setting. I can’t figure out if my grind is too fine or too coarse, because when I make it more coarse it’s even worse... PLEASE HELP! 😂😫
Hey Julie! This sounds curious. It would be great to know the espresso machine, basket type, and recipe (dose, output, time) you're using to help rule out some of the more common causes of funky shots like this. From there, we should able to zero in on the issue!
- Charles
Clive Coffee Hey Charles! Wow, thank you so much for the prompt response! So I actually have the Rocket Apartmento and use the double basket with the double spout. I’m wondering if the issue is perhaps not resetting the grind size correctly after adding new beans causing the shoot of the grinder to perhaps jam improperly? I use it manually not timed as well. I’m so bad, I don’t actually have a solid recipe that I use but would LOVE recommendations on how to come up with a solid/consistent one! Another issue I have is when grinding no matter what I end up with lots of the grinds getting on the counter. Is there a way to prevent that?
@@julieyablonsky1574 Gotcha. I have two recommendations right off the bat. First, watch out video on how to pull the perfect shot of espresso (linked below). It'll outline our standard recipe and get you on the right track. Second, using a scale to weigh your dose and output will significantly improve your shots and make them far more consistent. Frankly, without weighted measurements, it's somewhat difficult for us to give helpful recommendations. Something that weighs down to 1/10th of a gram is preferable. I've linked our most affordable option below.
As for the grinder making a mess, that's generally a result of static which is more common when using darker roasted coffees. If you fill your hopper there isn't too much that can be done about this. If you single dose (keep the hopper empty and grind just one shot's worth at a time) you can use something called the Ross Droplet Technique to reduce static. I've linked our video on that below.
Hopefully, some or all of this helps!
th-cam.com/video/zXDI-swjL94/w-d-xo.html
clivecoffee.com/products/tiamo-digital-coffee-scale
th-cam.com/video/CAgWc-RW8XU/w-d-xo.html
- Charles
Julie Yablonsky 2 things might be worth to check. 1. Adjust the knob while it’s grinding. 2. The knob can be turned a few rounds before it gets to the finest setting. The numbers are just reference.
@@seansu3044 are you sure it can be turned round and round, mine can't ?
How is it right to set the grinding consistency (fine or coarser). While the engine is running (with or without coffee in the hopper) or while the engine is stopped? Thanks
Fine only with running motor. Imagine what happens to the mechanik when you sqeese the beans between the statik grinders.
very cool video, but I do have a question. how to find the max fine/coarse point on the adjustment knob
? and do you do the adjustemts while grinding or while the machine ist paused? thanks.
Did you ever find an answer
Wonder Video! Just got this grinder. I will be dealing with a bit of a challenge as we are switching between espresso and aeropress grind every morning. I think we have a good grasp on the espresso setting (2.5), but can you share your #'s for aeropress, pour over and french press?
I wish there were some way of knowing how many times the wheel had been turned. e.g. if I leave it on my aeropress setting, its confusing for the next person. Any tips?
I got the same grinder.. I think you have to figure it out and then simply pin a note somewhere near 😅 did that for different amounts of filtered coffee as well.
Ok i was suspicious before but after this I KNOW that he says "Tamp Subscribe" in every video lol
We've heard he's still saying it to this day...
Hi, why is it important to remove the hopper before adjusting finer? The hopper should'nt have any contact to the burrs, or? Would it be better to adjust finer while the grinder is running? In the manuel Eureka is writing to run it every 2 steps for a short time.
I've found that for espresso, the mignon grind size is always
Thanks for the great video! Some thoughts and questions...
I have the previous generation of the Mignon. While I love it, it’s worth nothing that if you’re not grinding while adjusting the dial, especially when adjusting finer - IT WILL JAM. Is that not an issue with the newer models? Your adjustments here don’t appear to show the grinder is running. Just curious.
My feeling is after working with the Mignon for a year plus, if you like to switch between different beans frequently, you’re probably better off with a Vario, or a grinder where you can clearly note your grind setting to match the specific beans your using. You tend to waste a lot of bean, regardless of any notation of setting.
Lastly, the screen that is by the shoot, it’s my understanding that’s what helps prevent the clumping the previous model suffers from. Can this screen be added to the previous model?
Thanks!
Christopher F wonder what the residual amount would be in the Mignon ?
Thanks! For starters: The new Mignon espresso grinders are far tougher than their predecessor. When we got them in we were absurdly rough on them, adjusting very coarse, making a huge adjustment finer, and then grinding. We were astonished at how hard it was to jam these things. While we still recommend exercising caution you can certainly trust them to be forgiving. As far as I'm concerned, the new Mignon series should have gotten a new name as, despite similarities in aesthetics and specs, they're an entirely different animal when it comes to performance.
The screen is definitely a key component in making sure the grounds are fluffy but it is not adaptable to the original Mignon.
- Charles
I have the specialita, she will jam if you adjust finer without it running in my experience. Having never used the original I can't say if it's better in that regard, but I certainly have had it happen.
How do I find out how many times the knob was turned before, and where it is now? And where should I set it to start experimenting for an espresso?
Is there any problem with using this grinder as a single dose grinder? Or do I need to keep the bean hopper full?
So you don’t need the machine running while making adjustment?
So if moving from espresso to French press should I turn about 2 revolutions ? Give or take….
I can't get the grounds coarse enough for my pourovers - even loosened the knob till it came off!
Any suggestions?
Which Mignon grinder? There are a ton in that lineup.
How much of a difference does the size of the burr makes? 50mm vs 55mm. In a blind taste would using a conical burr be different from flat burr
What size screwdriver should I be using to do this? I do not know why, but I cannot get the screw to loosen under the emblem after I pull it off and I do not want to strip the screw. Thanks!
So default factory setting for how long to run grinder at 11 seconds is WAAAY too low for fill a portafiller basket. What is good starting point?
The screws on the top burr are so tight I can’t move them at all. Is there any way of resolving this ? Thanks
Use some counter-force!
hello.
I have a mignon specialita, my grind settung is something close to 0 and not in the range 1- 2, is this normal or do I need to calibrate the burrs?
when the beans gets drier and I need to go finer I will need to pass the zero to the - 1 side, again is this normal?
thanks
Really we appreciated your helpful videos .. my question is What do you think of Eureka Mignon Manuale grinder comparing to the Mignon silenzio ?
In our eyes, the minor price increase for the Silenzio is well worth it for two key reasons. First, it's nearly silent, quieter than almost any other grinder out there, which we love. Second, you get the convenience timed dosing, which is really handy. For those two reasons, we selected the Silenzio as our entry level Mignon espresso grinder.
- Charles
What’s the residual amount left in the Mignon ?thatwould be handy !
These grinders hold onto between 1g and 1.5g of coffee (otherwise known as grind retention). Impressive for a flat burr grinder and part of what makes them proficient single dosers!
- Charles
You mean 1-1.5 on a 18g dose total? That's a significant amount. . not very low.. not good for single dosing.
I single dose using a Mignon and have found (after tapping the side of the grinder when finished) I get around 0.2g retention
Is it bad to adjust the dial while the machine is off?
Do you think this model can hold a 54mm portalfilter ?
Great grinders but very messy and the grind bin not good
Is there a way to find the true zero? i just got my Specialita but i'm having some issues. Also, in the video, when you are turning the knob, are you doing it with the machine active? (like making the burrs sping)
hey, when making grind adjustments on de Mignon, do you need to turn on the grinder whilst turning the knob to make coarser/finer adjustments? Or does it also work without turning it on?
I thought I saw this in various other video's, but making those adjustments whilst the Mignon is grindings, seems to spill a lot more coffee than if I can make those adjustments without tuning it on ;) but I don'y know if that's okay for the machine.
Looking forward to the answer Thanks in advance. Love your videos!
Hey! Yes, when you have coffee in the hopper, you want to grind while simultaneously adjusting the knob in the fine direction only.
@@clivecoffee nice! Thanks! And when grinding coarser, I should avoid having beans in the hopper?
@@JaspervanderKamp Nope. You only have to grind while adjusting when you're making adjustments in the fine direction.
@@clivecoffee Thanks, this tip will prevent 2-4 wrong espresso's the next time i buy beans that need coarser grinds haha
@@JaspervanderKamp Happy brewing!
Amazing
Can you reset the shot counter?
Hi, I’m a bit surprised by this, I thought the adjustment should only be done as you’re actually grinding the coffee?
Typically yes, you will want to run the grinder while adjusting the grind consistency finer. This just helps you avoid jamming your grinder in the future. In our case, we are single dosing with the Specialita, so there aren't any beans in the chamber while this adjustment was being made.
in your grinding set drip and French press is the same?
I noticed that you used a vacuum to clean out the retension grinds. I dont have a vaccum. But could a can of air (for computers) do ok? Do you recommended that or not?
You can use a can of air and I've done so on many occasions. I have two recommendations based on experience:
1. If at all possible, do it outside, haha
2. Most canned air uses some form of bitterant as a way to deter children from doing anything dangerous with it. While harmless, it's possible that this could end up on your burrs and contribute some bitter flavors to your coffee. Grinding a few grams of beans should get rid of any residue. (This is why I now stick to our shop vac.)
- Charles
@@clivecoffee Thank you Charles.
I don't know if it is obvious but, can you do coarser grinds with this for other methods?
You definitely can! It does mean you lose the setting you were at for your espresso, but we have a lot of happy customers who use the Eureka Mignon espresso grinders as all purpose ones.
Are they both the same internals?
why are you adjusting finer while not running the motor? poss burr damage
When you just remove the top burr to clean like this, will you have to dial in your grind from scratch after you put it back? Or will it be at the same place when you reassemble? Not wanting to redial in is keeping me from cleaning it.
No, the burrs on all Eureka grinders adjust from the bottom burr, so disassembling doesn't change the grind size.
@@clivecoffee wonderful, thank you!
Can you tell me about the scale/timer you used?
That would be the Acaia Lunar! Hands down our favorite espresso scale.
clivecoffee.com/products/acaia-lunar-scale
- Charles
very good video :) I'am so close where the burrs hits each other with very fresh coffee, my Eureka Specialita is only 6 mont's old, do you think that I do anything wrong ? I really don't understand why I have to grind so fine.
Hi there!
Since there are a myriad of variables when pulling shots it's tough to nail down one thing that could be the issue. If you're using a lower dose amount, that would result in a finer grind necessary for that specific recipe. Typically there is about 5-6 numbers between a standard espresso setting and the point at which the burrs will touch. Hope this helps! If you're still having issues I'd recommend reaching out to your original vendor as well.
Hi and thanks for this helpful video. When timed to reach 18 grams for a double basket, I get quite a bit of grounds spilling on the sides onto the counter. What could be the problem?
same here. 17g max in mine
Try tapping with the tamper your porta filter as it’s filling. .
CAN YOU USE THE Eureka FILTRO FOR EXPRESSO (USING NONPRESSURIZED BASKET.). I SEE THE FILTRO IS ABOUT 130 dollars cheaper than the NOTTE
Hey there! The Filtro is excellent for a huge range of brew methods, espresso included! I've been able to dial in some tasty shots with ours here in house. Always nice to save a bit of cash when the results will be comparable to another grinder!
Hello,
Would you say the Silenzio is a notch above the Rocky and the Sette 270 (standard)? I was torn between those 2 but considering going with the Silenzio if it offers a more solid build like the Rancilio and the fine grind of the Sette. Also, would you say that clumping is minimal?
Thanks!
I know it's been a year, so you must have made your choice by now. Looking around online, the Sette has a plastic gearbox which wears out quickly. Easy enough to replace, but you'll be doing it way more often than you would want to, considering the price. I've just upgraded and went with Eureka (the Specialita). Though I love the design, the lack of retention and the features of the Sette, that gearbox issue was a deal-breaker. Hope you're happy with what you got!
Hi, How do I know when one hould change the burrs, how many Kg can I grind with the 50mm burrs of the Mignon?
Manual says ~250 kg.
My grinder timer isn't working!
Hi guys. Looking for an answer to this question if possible: is it possible to bring the burrs together so that they are touching, resulting in damage when the grinder is switched on?
It is possible but generally, this won't result in damage unless done in a truly excessive way. You'll be able to hear when they touch - it sounds like a light metallic scraping noise. Burrs are designed such that the surfaces which can touch are already ground smooth, with the cutting edges being slightly recessed.
In short: don't worry about it, and if you hear a sudden surprising noise just turn the knob back a bit.
- Charles
Clive Coffee I’m reassured! Thank you, Charles. 👍
@@clivecoffee но я имею хороший помол под эспрессо только в том случае, если жернова соприкасаются друг с другом. Если немного ослабить, помол уже не подходит под эспрессо. Я использую Nuova Somonelli MCX.
Uhhh....that dial that just rotates around? I guess that is the cheap one. Anyhoo...which DIRECTION is finer?
Clockwise is finer
my grinder is set at 11 secs but I am grinding over 20g of coffee - I have dropped to 8 secs and still getting 18g - should i make the grind finer to get 17g? thanks
It's more important you get the dose you want than how long it takes to grind. If you use 18g, how many seconds does it take to pull your shot? We recommend aiming for somewhere between 27g and 36g of espresso out with an 18g dose. You should be somewhere around 30ish seconds (as a good starting point). From there, you can decide if you want to grind finer, coarser, or change your dose.
@@clivecoffee ok yep the shot is taking about 176 secs for 2oz so its too quick but its fine and if i go diner the grinder eureka doesnt grind?? Ahhhhh annoying thanks though
This might seem like a weird question but, if the grind adjustment knob is turned too far on either side, could it damage the grinder?
If the grind adjustment knob is turned too fine it may cause the burrs to touch. This is unlikely to cause damage and you'll immediately hear a buzzing sound that will alert you to the issue, at which point you should adjust coarser. Adjusting too coarse will never cause damage.
- Charles
@@clivecoffee Thanks for the response! Really interested in this product. Hopefully I get one soon!
@@clivecoffee Hey Charles! I was wondering if these would need cleaning tablets when switching coffee beans or just monthly maintenance? If so, which ones would you recommend?
@@ishiie14 For grinder cleaning tablets I recommend Grindz: clivecoffee.com/products/urnex-grindz-grinder-cleaner
It's not entirely necessary to use these when switching coffees. For that, I would just grind a fair amount of the new coffee to flush out the old grounds. 10-20g will suffice.
How often you should use them (or manually clean your grinder) depends a bit on the type of coffee you use. If you use lighter roast coffees you can easily go months without finding any buildup inside the grinder. With dark roasted beans you'll notice buildup within weeks. Using them at 2-month intervals should be reasonable for just about any coffee, but feel free to adjust according to your experience.
- Charles
@@clivecoffee Great! Again, I appreciate the help!
Hi Charles. Great video.
I’m torn between the Mignon Specialita and the Atom 60. Some say the Specialita is better for home use. Which do you recommend for home use?
Cheers.
Hi Charles. I noticed you were adjusting the dial without the grinder running. Is that ok?
Is there a PDF manual to be found anywhere?
From Eureka: www.eureka.co.it/public/files/catalogo/20/Mignon%20-%20User%20Manual.pdf
Really tricky to adjust mine right for aeropress, honestly I've rarely gotten a good grind out of my eureka mignon compared to the much cheaper baratza encore, it's been a disappointing year and a half or more that I've owned this. Maybe I just move my settings too far, I've never contacted eureka about it maybe I had defective burrs who knows but I've been a constantly dissatisfied person
i have specialita with perfeto easy set knob i am in the turkish zone almost burrs touching each other and still cannot dial in for over 20 seconds shot, is this problem familiar to you? what is the solution?
more coffee maybe?
@@tamasd8 more than 18 grams on regular filter basket not recommended
Typically when a Mignon reaches the point where the burrs are about to touch, it an extremely fine consistency which is suitable for a wide variety of coffee. If you are still seeing fast shots at this setting, then I'd look at the age of the coffee being used. Does it a roast date on the bag?
@@clivecoffee i roast and it is few days to few weeks i tried different coffees and you can see in home barista i am not the first having this problem, also i use as alternative mignon from 2008 without this problem
it was a lot of old coffee stuck in the passage from burr exit to coffee exit funnel also rthe clump crasher was bent so after cleaning the passage i could dial in again also taste improved
Thanks for the video. Can you tell us what quantity of ground coffee you would use for a double-shot in grams (58mm portafilter) and expected yield in grams?
For a double shot/double basket you'll want to use about 18g of coffee and a yield anywhere between 18g and 36g is acceptable. The precise yield and shot time to target mainly comes down to personal taste. You might find this video helpful
th-cam.com/video/nd_J3ztFMJc/w-d-xo.html
- Charles
can this do turkish grind?
According to this video by SCG (th-cam.com/video/JvAMsnjLE7w/w-d-xo.html), its finest grind setting is nearly Turkish.
Would you recommend Eureka Mignon for single dose grinding..?
These clog continuously! I surrender, it's going on EBAY. Grinding finer = clog.
Using a bellows should clear it.
Never turn finer without grinding!
Please explain, thanks!
@@HarkoBarf The turning mechanism will be destroyed if the grinding disks are forced closer together without operation, as coffee beans are stuck between the grinding disks and will block any movement.
@@tomselleck0607 Good to know! I just bought the grinder and turned it finer and then it stopped working. It started working again when I set it to coarse. I won't make the same mistake again.
@@HarkoBarf I think nothing is broken. There were only a few beans squashed and the discs had no strength to overcome the friction.