Hello coffee friends! In this video, I show how I dial in the Eureka Specialita for the first time, for espresso. This grinder is great for wonderfully fluffy grinds, no static, and a quiet operation. Thanks for watching, and happy coffee drinking! ✪ Eureka Specialita Grinder: geni.us/EurekaSpecialita (Amazon) 0:00 Intro 1:07 Finding the Grinder Reference 3:25 Grinding at +2 (too coarse) 5:25 Second try at +1 (getting closer) 7:41 Third try grinding at +0.5 (just about right)
Beans which you consider fresh because you just bought it or opened it are usually a year or more old from the time it was harvested and arrived to your house.
Hi, i bought a manual type, same brand. Beginning can grind espresso (fine, and coarse. Now dial even reaching almost 0, the grinding is very coarse, like French press. How?
I just bought this exact grinder (hasn't shipped yet) and this is EXACTLY the type of video I was looking for and needed. Simple, to the point, and immensely helpful! Thank you sir!
Oh my! Just unpacked my specialita! Going to set it up using your tutorial! By the way, my burrs also start to touch at 5! Thanks for your video! It’s great!
Thank you so much you are such a godsend. I thought there was something wrong with my grinder and something wrong with my new.LILET Bianca, espresso machine. I finally got it after two whole bags of beans!! I pull in 31 seconds 38 g.❤❤❤
thanks dude! this is super helpful. I have a Mignon, and was getting frustrated thinking that 0 setting is calibrated by Eureka. My reference turned out to be 5 just like yours, and adding half a notch now dials my 1:1.5 ratio. Thank you
Great vid! I love your vids Tom. It's real world stuff for the sort of things that are cool to know for 90% of us. None of the arty-farty stuff you get from the GS3/lever pull pseuds with $10k to spend on a machine! Subscribed. (And I'm amazed at the results you are getting from that Delonghi)
Hey Mr. Biggles, thank you so much for such a lovely feedback! I am happy the videos I make can be useful. I am an engineer, and we are known for being a little stingy with our wallets. Thus, I like to get the most out of economical equipment. Thanks for your subscription! Tom
Tom - I just got my Eureka Magnifico and with the instructions you gave have now zeroed my machine. It took me about three draws to get the specific coffee grind too. By the way, I take it that you have to perform this type of operation each time you change bean type? I also appreciate all the "science" or weighing you're doing which is fantastic. I think this is one of my favorite most informative video's I have found. Great job and I am now following your channel.
Sweet pickup, Bulldozer! I bet you are going to like that combo, and the Specialita can serve many machines well. I use it on the Gaggia, Bambino, and La Spazz too. Just make sure you use non pressurized baskets with the Dedica. Cheers! ☕️
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you very much. Yes i bouhgt another grip with 2 size new baskets. I think i use the original dedica baskets with one hole for normal coffee, 100ml 7gramm and the others for espresso.
Thanks Tom - great vid! Wish I watched it before dialling in my new Mignon earlier for the first time 😂 I noticed you adjusted the grind size while the motor was running, is this important to do? I was adjusting the dial with the motor off and beans in the hopper.. I’ll do it your way from now on!
Thanks man, seems like the Specialitas all have a different reference point. Mine is around 4. I have a Dedica too, but today I got my Cafelat Robot - honestly it is easier to pull consistent shots with the robot. I really like it! But the Dedica was a good learning machine for me.
hey Tamas, thanks for your comment! Wow, I cannot believe I have never heard of the Cafelat Robot espresso maker before. It looks similar to a lever machine. Is it fun to use? Is that from Italy by chance?
hey, Tamas. I have the same setup as you, meaning the Specialita and the Robot. How many notches do you go back from you reference point of 4 (mine is closer to 5, like Tom's)?
hey man, I'm at 5 currently and I get a pretty good shot. But I'm still learning and dialing in the grinder for the coffee. I'm ok between 0 and 5 usually, but better to be close to 5. For you that would be around 0 I guess?
@@tamasd8 I'm at 0.5 and the pressure I have to put in I think is too high, with around 50 seconds a shot. I also tamped lightly. I have to try the same grinder setting without tamping, and see if the pressure is the same. If too high, I'll have to go up to 1, and try again. Today I used the 0,5 setting for the first time, after watching this video.
my specialita just arrived n its now zeroed at 5.5 - i guess the next step is to grind the beans at very very small increments clockwise to get the right grain size for 16g espresso. i m a noob so i m working towards 16g in = 32g out in 25-30secs on my ec685. Not sure how much beans its going to take me though. Wisg me luck!
I am a little bit confused why it is important to find a reference point. If you rotate clockwise the coffee gets finer, counterclockwise coarser. What is the reference point for?
I'm confused. You determined the reference to be about 5 but didn't use it when grinding. You just dialed down the grind until you got the results you wanted. If the grinding blades are just touching, doesn't that mean the grind is as fine as you can get?
I found the reference, then moved away from the reference. It's just so you know how far you are from the finest setting. I am usually about 2 notches away from the reference point for my espresso beans. Cheers!
It might be your beans. Please see these videos: How to Get Crema: th-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/w-d-xo.html Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! th-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/w-d-xo.html
Hi Tom. Do you think this grinder is a good option if I want to change coffee beans often, mixing fresh roasted with supermarket beans? Or maybe an easier to use grinder is better, maybe something with steps? Also do you recommend supermarket beans to be used with pressurized basket?
Yes, supermarket beans are often old, so they generally require the use of the pressurized baskets. I'd recommend the Sette 30 or 270 for switching beans often. It's what I use in that case. It has a straight through design for low retention, and the grind collar is marked with steps, so it's easy to switch between.
Hello Tom, thank you very much for sharing your great video, I have just bought a manual one I would like to grind Turkish coffee which number I should use ?thank you very much in advance
Hello tom It was very helpful to me But I have a problem When I set my grinder to 0 point by setting the grinding to it's finest that the churp sound as you mentioned and then going coarser and starting to adjust My zero point is 5 and when I go coarser let's say to 2 it's very coarse so then I keep going finer and I have to go finer than my zero point by 3 to 4 numbers Is that ok ? And I do single dosing and when the grinding finishes I hear the churp sound every time So is that ok? Please help me 😢
Hi Tom, thanks for this video. I've bought a eureka mignon zero and la pavoni lever Stradivari. I don't know how I cannot make a perfect shot, the power looks or too fine or too coarse...the grinder sometimes loses the setting, have you ever noted this? Do you have any tips to share? Thanks in advance
no need to dial it in just set to 0 then adjust finer or coarser depending on beans/dose and type of coffee you like, so many variables, i do believe they made 0 the sweet spot on purpose
Hi, thank you for the video. My question is if you should be weighing the ground beans at 14g? I think because of the retention of the specialita, and the grounds I still see in your machine, you may only have 13-13.5 grams of grinds. Or will that even make a difference? I guess as long as you enjoy the final product, that’s all that matters.
If you leave them touching, then sure. But this is only done for an instant, to find your reference. The teeth are not actually touching anyway, but rather the flat part of the burrs.
Hey Tom. I bought a used Specialita. It’s in perfect shape. I am trying to find the zero point (maybe I shouldn’t have, given this was used?!) but unable to do so. The machine has gotten really hot, to a point where I didn’t feel like working with it anymore so decided to let it rest. What do you suggest that I do from here?
Thanks Tom. Nice video. I am confused as to how two full notches from 5 gets you to 2? Shouldn't it be 1? i.e 5-0 is 1 notch and 0-1 is the 2nd notch. Can you please explain? Thanks!
Are you using 5 as your reference point because they touch or 0 because it’s the one where they don’t touch anymore? Because in the video you’re saying +2 which brings you to 2. But if you start from 5 it would have been 1 Let me know! Thanks for the help, super clear video 🙏
Hi Tom. Been watching your videos for the pass few days now. I recently purchased the Delonghi La Specialista Arte & the eureka. I wanted to how many grams of beans and what setting number do I set the Grinder to
Hey nice video! And very nice that you use the Dedica with a Eureka Grinder. And not automatically using a high price espresso machine. As I have the same setup I will use this input to dial in my coffee again after some frustrating shots. May I ask which temperature setting did you use?! Are planning on changing the espresso machine? And what would be your choice? Keep on !
Hey Moritz, rock on! Yes, I just love the Mignon series by Eureka. They work well with cheap and expensive espresso machines. Most people's philosophy anyways, is to spend more on the grinder than on the machine. I do also have a Gaggia Classic Pro that I am starting to experiment with, and it is very fun. I have had other machines as well in the past, but honestly I have the most fun trying to get what I can out of the Dedica and Classic pro. I use the highest temp setting by the way (on the Dedica), and I pull a couple of empty shots first to warm the lines, portafilter, and basket. Cheers! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Great Tipps! I try to get them into my work flow. Just decided in buying a QuickMill Pippa and I will see how that machine performs. But that will be around April. Now it is time to get the most out of the Dedica. Rock n Roll
Hi Tom! Thanks for the video! My Eureka MS keeps delivering rough ground ( brewing time less than 15 seconds). I did the Dialling (I found the zero then tried different grinding degrees) . Even with less than 1 degree , I still have no change in results. The bean used with another grinding machine with no such issue. Thanks
Hi! I just got my new Eureka Mignon Specialita and I am trying to find the touching point. I am following exactly what you are doing but I don’t hear burrs touching at all. Is but I hear the they are circling.
Kind of worried, just got mine and I don’t hear the reference and I’ve rotated the dial a couple of rotations - updated, mine came rotated a few times so just took me cranking it down and ref point is also 5. Thx!
Hi, great video, quick question, when you finding the zero on the grinder, does it cause damage to the burrs, for instance say you loose the zero point a few times and you have to find it again, will this cause any issues long term.
Hi Tom, I would like to ask one thing, why do you use a 14g dose for a single espresso? It seems to me a lot. Shouldn't the dose be only 7/9 g? However, with about 10g of Lavazza coffee beans ground to the reference point, the coffee still runs too fast. Should I increase the dose? Thanks
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Why dont you use the double Espresso button on the machine then? Is it the same as long as you use the double basket? Sorry for the dumb question 😅
Hi Tom I’m looking to upgrade from a Manual K4 Kingrinder. Would you recommend the eureka or is there a better option available. Also is the specialita still your favorite? Thanks
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I was looking at the zero or is it better to get the Specialita? I only brew espresso, being that my favorite drinks are cortado, cappuccino and iced latte. So I was hoping to find my end game grinder. Thanks
HELLO. I got it but the screen froze for a while and fix after 2 minutes. Try 15-20 times at different times, it freezes once. store changed it 4 times with new specialita but same problem. I'm tired of changing. I think there is something wrong with the whole series. did you encounter the same problem? Do you know the solution?is it normal?
Hey Karl, thanks for that good question. The reference point for me is the 5 on the right side of the dial. This may depend on each units calibration. Knowing which number to start at above the reference is kind of just trial and error, but I found that with the Specialita, the wormscrew is such that the optimal grind settings are between 1 and 3 notches coarser than the reference point. 😉
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks Tom. One other thing, if you would. When I was considering this grinder, I watched a demo of it on Seattle Coffee Gear and they were showing grind capabilities from very fine to coarse (pour over). I'd like to use it for multiple uses, but the description mentioned having to "turn the dial multiple times" to get it adjusted for this. I'm hesitant to just start cranking on the dial and wondering how practical it is to do this anyway. Any idea?
@@karlkrasnowsky3895 Hmm, well I will be honest that I use this just for espresso, and sometimes AeroPress. That being said, I turn it one full turn (360 degrees) coarser for the AeroPress. When I come back for espresso, the reference IS still calibrated at the same setting, so I figure the accuracy is good. Anyway, it is a little pain in the butt with ANY grinder to go in between settings, since it takes a bit to get dialed in for espresso. That is why I would always recommend a second smaller grinder for pourover, like the KG89, which is cheap, and does a fine job. I made a video on that one too. But, to each his own. 😉Cheers!
Does it make sense to buy Eureka single dose hopper if I plan to treat Eureka Mignon Specialita as a single dose grinder? Or just use a standard hopper and treat it as a single dose one as you do, Tom? Maybe some of the viewers have both hoppers and can share their opinion and experience on that?
Oh for sure get a single dose hopper, because it comes with a bellows, for blowing out the remaining grounds. I find that there is always still 1-2 grams left in the grind chamber and chute, which get blown out by my bellows.
We followed these instructions however when we fill the holder with beans (as opposed to just putting in the 14grams) the coffee is ground much more quickly, resulting in an overflowing holder. Any tips?
Haha, well sure you have to stop the grinder earlier when the hopper is full. I would suggest weighing your PF empty, and then trying for the 14-16 grams. Do you have a scale?
I have not tried yet, because it seems really stuck on, and I am afraid if I pry it off, it might not be re-applicable. I just marked my zero point with a marker for now...
Well if you let the burrs abut for too long, you will put a strain on the motor, and it may overheat. But touching for a moment will not hurt anything.
How easy is it to change grind settings when going from espresso grind (fine) to let's say filter (coarse)? Can this all be done by just dialling the knob?
It is possible, but it will take some time for the setting to take effect. I'd recommend single dosing if you are switching often. Then you can adjust the grind while the burrs are devoid of beans, saving beans in the long run. Cheers!
quick question: at that point 5 where the burrs start to chatter, is that also the furthest the knob will turn or is that one full 360 rotation away from how far the knob will go? i have a silenzio, and the furthest towards minimum my knob will go is the 5 before the 0. then i have to turn the wheel a full 360 degrees to get to the point where they dont chatter anymore. is this normal or is mine calibrated oddly? Also i made the mistake of running my grinder while it was chattering for about 5 seconds once an then another 5 seconds wondering why there was no coffee. does this damage the burrs?
The burrs are flat on the top where they meet, so they shouldn't get entangled. Too much strain on the motor however can cause overheating. I just do it for a split second, to find the point where they meet, then back off immediately. I would not suggest turning further on the dial than that.
Amazing. Can having the grinder run while no beans are inside damage the burrs? Also, is it safe to find the point where they are touching or can they be damaged ?
You can go coarser with the grinder off, but should leave it on when going finer. This is because if a bean is trapped between the burrs and you get them closer together, there is a chance of misaligning them. Touching burrs is not ideal, but if it's just for a split second, there is no problem.
You can run the grinder under no load, yes. You are just touching the burrs together for a split second. It's the flat metal parts that are touching anyway - the teeth don't intertwine.
is it not dangerous close so the burr while are working moreover it makes sound when you are close to zero ? and it is needed that the machine is working to adjust the dial ? I just bought that machine that is why I am asking.
You should adjust the dial while its spinning. No, it doesn't hurt to find the calibration point. The burrs are flat where they meet, and it is just a momentary thing. Cheers!
Thank you very much for all the valuable info you’re giving out in your videos. I am just wondering if there is anything I can do to increase extraction time. I’m still working with the pressurized filter but no matter how hard I tamper, I get 30g out in less than 20 s. Could it be the grinder ? I’m using the Dedica grinder KG521J-M
Hey there! Well I think that grinder should be able to grind fine enough for either pressurized or non-pressurized filters. But I haven't tried yet myself. How freshly roasted are the beans you're using?
Hey, to increase extraction time you'd want to grind at a finer setting or increase the dose size. Tamping pressure doesn't actually increase extraction time much after applying about 30lbs of pressure, so that's why you're finding that no matter how hard you press the time is the same. I don't know that grinder, but if it's already as fine as you can go then you would need to increase the dose.
By finding your zero point by hearing the burrs rub against each other is it possible you have just destroyed your burrs? Ie sharp metal to metal contact?
Well Pavel, the Eureka Mignon is superior to the integrated Arte grinder, so I would recommend the Dedica/Mignon combo. Or, you could get a Manuale to save even more. Mignon Manuale: amzn.to/3G0aMSt
I bought the Eureka Mignon Notte for my wife's birthday. So far we've used it to grind 6-7 shots. However, every time after a grind; the machine sounds like the burrs are starting to touch again (without changing the setting). I've repeated the dial-in process 6 times now and every time I'm having to loosen up the burrs more and more. Any thoughts?
I haven't experienced something like that myself. I'd probably open it up and be sure the burrs are aligned alright. Lance Hedrick has got some videos on that topic.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks for the reply. I ended up just returning the Notte and picking up the Kingrinder K4 and have been extremely happy with that decision. We're pulling way better tasting shots with it. I think the Notte we received just happened to be defective and another one would have worked fine; but the K4 is working great and for only 1-2 shots per day I don't mind the arm workout.
Hi Tom, thanks for the video. About to start using my silenzio illy grinder. to grind 14g of beans, which filter are you using? a single or double dose? For reference, I have two filters from neouza. They are both straight, even the single dose one.
Hey Isfar, the burrs are flat on top, so if they just chatter a moment, they won't choke, and it won't overload the motor. It is just to get a quick reference. I try to do it just very gently, and briefly. It is really only needed to find the reference once, or else possibly after taking apart the grinder for cleaning. Thanks for watching!
Hi Tom, thanks for this video! Tomorrow I wil pull my first shots with the Eureka mignon manuale and a Gaggia Classic Pro. I didn't know how to start with the grinder, so this video will help me a lot. Does it not harm your grinder when you hear those two grind blades hit each other?
Hi Randy, thanks for watching! It won’t hurt your burrs if they touch momentarily. If you look at their surfaces, where they meet is flattened off anyway. Have fun! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks Tom! It was a frustrating espresso morning 😅 The puck was very wet everytime. And with the same grind setting, I was getting different output times. Tomorrow I will pull some shots, and see what it will bring.
Very instructive video! I learned 2 things: how to find zero, and to use the portafilter+funnel directly on the scale to measure out beans (lowers risk of forgetting to tare). A newbie question: where are your sweet spots for various types of beans in your experience? For example a lightish medium roast like Black Cat classic. I struggle with upfront malic sourness with most light-medium roasts. (Mignon Silenzio + Lelit Anna).
Hi Eric! Thanks for the feedback. As for beans, I normally stay within the med-dark realm, but not too dark. I have tried some medium roasts, but those are tricky, and often display acidity. Have you tried different extraction temps? There is a lot of information on extracting light and med roasts with the Decent DE1 forum, if you are interested. Cheers!
Hi Tom. Please, what settings do you use for store-bought coffee (not fresh)? For some species I have to use a setting almost at the level of the reference point.
Right, older beans need to be ground even finer, but they still pretty much make terrible extractions. All I can say is to adjust so that you get a 2:1 ratio in about 25 seconds. But, try to get fresher beans if you can. Some beans print roast date indications on the bag. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you very much for your reply. Yes, you are right. I thought I was doing something wrong. I had the finest setting on the grinder, but I still couldn't get over 25 seconds extraction. Thank you for sharing your experience. Cheers!
Hi, I'm a fan of espresso at home, using flair espresso classic. Now I want to buy an electric grinder. Which should I choose, between specialita and sette 270. What do you think?
Hello, I just got the Specialita. My dial knob is pretty tight to rotate. In the video, it seems pretty smooth to rotate the knob. Is it normal to have a tight adjustment knob?
These videos are very helpful! However, using the same Grinder, if i grind below 1 , using a medium force when Tamping, the portafilter moves during extraction and if i'm not careful it will even go flying. I have seen other videos with people using dedica with very fine grind, so not sure why i can't? I'm using NEOUZA bottomless portafilter and usually 12g of coffee. Any tips welcome!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hi! Thats the issue i believe, the portafilter quality, even though I did buy the best rated in Amazon Spain i see that it does not seal like the original and moves. May I ask which one you use?
@@jolkil Hey there! I just got in a high quality portafilter from Normcore. I am thinking this is the best option for aftermarket, but it is not in every market. I imported mine from Amazon.com: amzn.to/3kn1Z0Q Otherwise, you could also just cut the bottom off the portafilter the machine came with, as a cheaper alternative.
Hello coffee friends! In this video, I show how I dial in the Eureka Specialita for the first time, for espresso. This grinder is great for wonderfully fluffy grinds, no static, and a quiet operation. Thanks for watching, and happy coffee drinking! ✪ Eureka Specialita Grinder: geni.us/EurekaSpecialita (Amazon)
0:00 Intro
1:07 Finding the Grinder Reference
3:25 Grinding at +2 (too coarse)
5:25 Second try at +1 (getting closer)
7:41 Third try grinding at +0.5 (just about right)
Beans which you consider fresh because you just bought it or opened it are usually a year or more old from the time it was harvested and arrived to your house.
@@MightyCrazy Beans that have been freshly roasted. Like 2-4 weeks from roast date.
Hi, i bought a manual type, same brand. Beginning can grind espresso (fine, and coarse. Now dial even reaching almost 0, the grinding is very coarse, like French press. How?
After 4 hours of bad attempts, I watched this 10 minute video and had my grind size dialed in 15 minutes later. Thank you SO much for this
You bet! Glad it helped, UTR. 🙋🏼♂️
SAME! Who would have thought the numbers in. The speciality dial are not what they say 😂
I just bought this exact grinder (hasn't shipped yet) and this is EXACTLY the type of video I was looking for and needed. Simple, to the point, and immensely helpful! Thank you sir!
Great to hear! Hope you enjoy your grinder!
me too !
Oh my! Just unpacked my specialita! Going to set it up using your tutorial! By the way, my burrs also start to touch at 5! Thanks for your video! It’s great!
Rock on, Che! I hope the video helps with your setup. Sounds like your grinder is calibrated the same as mine. Happy coffee drinking! -Tom
Thank you, this video is so helpful. Recently purchased a Eureka Mignon and wasn’t sure how to find the zero point!
Thank you for your help. I have the same grinder and I will get some coffee tomorrow… can’t wait to try this out! Greetings from Spain ❤
Thank you so much you are such a godsend. I thought there was something wrong with my grinder and something wrong with my new.LILET Bianca, espresso machine. I finally got it after two whole bags of beans!! I pull in 31 seconds 38 g.❤❤❤
This video is excellent! Dailing in is the hardest thing to figure out with this grinder.
Just received my Specialita! And my reference point is 5 too. Thank you for the video!
Excellent! Have fun with this nice machine!
I believe, from a reference point (5) you add +3 dials (to be on 2) then reduce to +2 and to +1,5 from a reference point.
thanks dude! this is super helpful. I have a Mignon, and was getting frustrated thinking that 0 setting is calibrated by Eureka. My reference turned out to be 5 just like yours, and adding half a notch now dials my 1:1.5 ratio. Thank you
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback.
Just in time Tom, just unboxed my Speciality and needed a little help dialing it in
Hey Yves, that IS good timing. 🤗 Hope you enjoy this fine grinder. 👍🏻
Thank you Tom. My Specialita should come within the week, this video was very helpful.
Great vid! I love your vids Tom. It's real world stuff for the sort of things that are cool to know for 90% of us. None of the arty-farty stuff you get from the GS3/lever pull pseuds with $10k to spend on a machine! Subscribed.
(And I'm amazed at the results you are getting from that Delonghi)
Hey Mr. Biggles, thank you so much for such a lovely feedback! I am happy the videos I make can be useful.
I am an engineer, and we are known for being a little stingy with our wallets. Thus, I like to get the most out of economical equipment.
Thanks for your subscription! Tom
Thanks for the advice and education you provide. Your hard work is appreciated very much!
I appreciate that!
Tom - I just got my Eureka Magnifico and with the instructions you gave have now zeroed my machine. It took me about three draws to get the specific coffee grind too. By the way, I take it that you have to perform this type of operation each time you change bean type? I also appreciate all the "science" or weighing you're doing which is fantastic. I think this is one of my favorite most informative video's I have found. Great job and I am now following your channel.
Thank you very much for your kind feedback! No, you only need to find the reference once. That should not change, unless you change the burrs. 👍🏻
Thank you, very useful video. You literally helped me set up my 0 setting on my new Chrono - which also starts at 5 :D
Great to hear! Let me know how you like the Crono. Cheers!
i bought today bouth machines. The Dedica 685 and Eureka Specialita. Thank you for the video.
Sweet pickup, Bulldozer! I bet you are going to like that combo, and the Specialita can serve many machines well. I use it on the Gaggia, Bambino, and La Spazz too.
Just make sure you use non pressurized baskets with the Dedica. Cheers! ☕️
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you very much. Yes i bouhgt another grip with 2 size new baskets. I think i use the original dedica baskets with one hole for normal coffee, 100ml 7gramm and the others for espresso.
just got mine today and touching point is "Zero". LOL. just perfect
Strange that the reference point isn't at 0. Can you take the dial off and set the 0 as a reference point?
I have not removed the dial. Anyone else know?
Thank you great video! Gonna receive my Mignon Turbo tomorrow and definitely would try to follow your instruction.
Sweet! I have never heard of the Turbo model. Is that like the Specialita?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Yes, its in the Mignon family, announced around end of 2021 so its pretty new!
It comes with a 65mm burr
@@Nataly034 Oh dang, that's sweet! That should be a good amount quicker than the Specialita. 👍
Thanks Tom - great vid! Wish I watched it before dialling in my new Mignon earlier for the first time 😂 I noticed you adjusted the grind size while the motor was running, is this important to do? I was adjusting the dial with the motor off and beans in the hopper.. I’ll do it your way from now on!
very, very helpful ! thank you !
Great video, very helpful.
Thank you, this is very informative. Tomorrow I will receive my Eureka Mignon Facile and I'm sure this video will help me get it set up.
Glad it was helpful! Are you using this grinder for pour over or espresso? The Mignon line by Eureka really offers a lot of bang for your buck!
What brand for the funnel? It seems to work really well with the grinder.
Very helpful
Thanks man, seems like the Specialitas all have a different reference point. Mine is around 4.
I have a Dedica too, but today I got my Cafelat Robot - honestly it is easier to pull consistent shots with the robot. I really like it! But the Dedica was a good learning machine for me.
hey Tamas, thanks for your comment! Wow, I cannot believe I have never heard of the Cafelat Robot espresso maker before. It looks similar to a lever machine. Is it fun to use? Is that from Italy by chance?
hey, Tamas. I have the same setup as you, meaning the Specialita and the Robot. How many notches do you go back from you reference point of 4 (mine is closer to 5, like Tom's)?
hey man, I'm at 5 currently and I get a pretty good shot. But I'm still learning and dialing in the grinder for the coffee. I'm ok between 0 and 5 usually, but better to be close to 5. For you that would be around 0 I guess?
@@tamasd8 I'm at 0.5 and the pressure I have to put in I think is too high, with around 50 seconds a shot. I also tamped lightly. I have to try the same grinder setting without tamping, and see if the pressure is the same. If too high, I'll have to go up to 1, and try again. Today I used the 0,5 setting for the first time, after watching this video.
if you ar at around 50 seconds with 6 bars, then surely grind coarser, experiment! I don't think the light tamp will be enough, but try it for sure
my specialita just arrived n its now zeroed at 5.5 - i guess the next step is to grind the beans at very very small increments clockwise to get the right grain size for 16g espresso. i m a noob so i m working towards 16g in = 32g out in 25-30secs on my ec685. Not sure how much beans its going to take me though. Wisg me luck!
So helpful. Thankyou.
I am a little bit confused why it is important to find a reference point. If you rotate clockwise the coffee gets finer, counterclockwise coarser. What is the reference point for?
On a specialita 2 to 3 is the spot
I just ordered my specialita and was wondering how do I set it up? Tom to the rescue!
Very cool! I think you will really like this grinder! Cheers, ☕️ Tom
I'm confused. You determined the reference to be about 5 but didn't use it when grinding. You just dialed down the grind until you got the results you wanted. If the grinding blades are just touching, doesn't that mean the grind is as fine as you can get?
I found the reference, then moved away from the reference. It's just so you know how far you are from the finest setting. I am usually about 2 notches away from the reference point for my espresso beans. Cheers!
how did you get 30g for 30 sec? my dedica produces the same volume for 10 seconds, quite fast compared to yours.
It might be your beans. Please see these videos:
How to Get Crema: th-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/w-d-xo.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! th-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/w-d-xo.html
Hi Tom. Do you think this grinder is a good option if I want to change coffee beans often, mixing fresh roasted with supermarket beans? Or maybe an easier to use grinder is better, maybe something with steps?
Also do you recommend supermarket beans to be used with pressurized basket?
Yes, supermarket beans are often old, so they generally require the use of the pressurized baskets. I'd recommend the Sette 30 or 270 for switching beans often. It's what I use in that case. It has a straight through design for low retention, and the grind collar is marked with steps, so it's easy to switch between.
Thanks Tom
Hello Tom, thank you very much for sharing your great video, I have just bought a manual one I would like to grind Turkish coffee which number I should use ?thank you very much in advance
Hello tom
It was very helpful to me
But I have a problem
When I set my grinder to 0 point by setting the grinding to it's finest that the churp sound as you mentioned and then going coarser and starting to adjust
My zero point is 5 and when I go coarser let's say to 2 it's very coarse so then I keep going finer and I have to go finer than my zero point by 3 to 4 numbers
Is that ok ?
And I do single dosing and when the grinding finishes I hear the churp sound every time
So is that ok?
Please help me 😢
Hi Tom, thanks for this video. I've bought a eureka mignon zero and la pavoni lever Stradivari. I don't know how I cannot make a perfect shot, the power looks or too fine or too coarse...the grinder sometimes loses the setting, have you ever noted this? Do you have any tips to share? Thanks in advance
no need to dial it in just set to 0 then adjust finer or coarser depending on beans/dose and type of coffee you like, so many variables, i do believe they made 0 the sweet spot on purpose
Hey Tom. Great video. I see Gaggia has a new grinder MDF 55 that looks just like this one and built by same company. Interesting.
Yes, looks to be just the same, besides the casing. I guess Eureka is licensing their design out...
When you find out your reference, does that mean that actually the 2 burrs colide? Are they getting damaged?
That flat part of the burrs abuts momentarily. No biggie. Cheers!
Why isnt the burr coming at the actual 0 from the factory? Great video!
I don't know...
Hi, thank you for the video. My question is if you should be weighing the ground beans at 14g? I think because of the retention of the specialita, and the grounds I still see in your machine, you may only have 13-13.5 grams of grinds. Or will that even make a difference? I guess as long as you enjoy the final product, that’s all that matters.
I usually weigh the dose that ends up in the PF. I aim for 16g most of the time.
Hello! Isn't it bad for the burrs to be touching everytime you wanna redial?
If you leave them touching, then sure. But this is only done for an instant, to find your reference. The teeth are not actually touching anyway, but rather the flat part of the burrs.
Hey Tom.
I bought a used Specialita. It’s in perfect shape. I am trying to find the zero point (maybe I shouldn’t have, given this was used?!) but unable to do so.
The machine has gotten really hot, to a point where I didn’t feel like working with it anymore so decided to let it rest.
What do you suggest that I do from here?
Great vdeo, thank you. 👌👍
Thanks Tom. Nice video. I am confused as to how two full notches from 5 gets you to 2? Shouldn't it be 1? i.e 5-0 is 1 notch and 0-1 is the 2nd notch. Can you please explain? Thanks!
No, you're right. Unfortunately, I misspoke in the video. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Ok thank you Tom🙏
What coffee grinder would you recommend specifically for getting the most flavor out of espresso with a 700-1000 dollar budget?
Thank you. Your videos are great. Are you actually using this grinder as a single grinder? Doesn't this impair the uniformity of the grinding?
Are you using 5 as your reference point because they touch or 0 because it’s the one where they don’t touch anymore? Because in the video you’re saying +2 which brings you to 2. But if you start from 5 it would have been 1
Let me know! Thanks for the help, super clear video 🙏
No, you're right - I misspoke in the video! I should have said 1. Cheers!
So when -5 is your touch point you should start at 1? Thanks!
Hi Tom. Been watching your videos for the pass few days now. I recently purchased the Delonghi La Specialista Arte & the eureka. I wanted to how many grams of beans and what setting number do I set the Grinder to
16 grams, and you have to dial fine enough to get 32 grams out in about 25 seconds. Cheers!
Thank you for the instruction. is there an auto power-off function in this machine?
Nope!
Auch geil. Ne Eureka und eine Spielzeug Siebträgermaschine. :-)
Every espresso machine benefits from a good grinder! Vielen Dank fürs zuschauen!
Hey nice video! And very nice that you use the Dedica with a Eureka Grinder. And not automatically using a high price espresso machine. As I have the same setup I will use this input to dial in my coffee again after some frustrating shots. May I ask which temperature setting did you use?! Are planning on changing the espresso machine? And what would be your choice? Keep on !
Hey Moritz, rock on! Yes, I just love the Mignon series by Eureka. They work well with cheap and expensive espresso machines. Most people's philosophy anyways, is to spend more on the grinder than on the machine. I do also have a Gaggia Classic Pro that I am starting to experiment with, and it is very fun. I have had other machines as well in the past, but honestly I have the most fun trying to get what I can out of the Dedica and Classic pro.
I use the highest temp setting by the way (on the Dedica), and I pull a couple of empty shots first to warm the lines, portafilter, and basket.
Cheers! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Great Tipps! I try to get them into my work flow. Just decided in buying a QuickMill Pippa and I will see how that machine performs. But that will be around April. Now it is time to get the most out of the Dedica. Rock n Roll
Hi Tom!
Thanks for the video!
My Eureka MS keeps delivering rough ground ( brewing time less than 15 seconds). I did the
Dialling (I found the zero then tried different grinding degrees) . Even with less than 1 degree , I still have no change in results. The bean used with another grinding machine with no such issue. Thanks
Hi there! I have not heard of such an issue. I wonder if the adjustment knob is seated correctly. Can you call Eureka's support?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I’m not really sure about that!
I sent an email for Eureka yesterday and hope getting answer soon
Hi! I just got my new Eureka Mignon Specialita and I am trying to find the touching point. I am following exactly what you are doing but I don’t hear burrs touching at all. Is but I hear the they are circling.
You'll hear them chirp if you go fine enough. Just be ready to back off quickly.
Great vid
Great handle!
🎶 “I love it when they call me big poppa” 😉
What brand is the scale? I like the timer and scale combo!
Kind of worried, just got mine and I don’t hear the reference and I’ve rotated the dial a couple of rotations - updated, mine came rotated a few times so just took me cranking it down and ref point is also 5. Thx!
Sounds good Matt, thanks for sharing!
Hi, great video, quick question, when you finding the zero on the grinder, does it cause damage to the burrs, for instance say you loose the zero point a few times and you have to find it again, will this cause any issues long term.
No, not in my opinion or experience. It's not the teeth mashing together, but rather the flat part of the burrs momentarily touching.
Hi Tom, I would like to ask one thing, why do you use a 14g dose for a single espresso? It seems to me a lot. Shouldn't the dose be only 7/9 g? However, with about 10g of Lavazza coffee beans ground to the reference point, the coffee still runs too fast. Should I increase the dose? Thanks
Hi Giancarlo, I like using double baskets, so they take between 14-18 grams. That is my preferred dose. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Why dont you use the double Espresso button on the machine then? Is it the same as long as you use the double basket? Sorry for the dumb question 😅
Why aren't you weighing the actual coffee mass after it comes out of the grinder? Does this grinder not retain anything?
You can add a bellows to pump out the rest - it's like 1.5 grams usually.
Hi Tom I’m looking to upgrade from a Manual K4 Kingrinder. Would you recommend the eureka or is there a better option available. Also is the specialita still your favorite? Thanks
Specialita is still my favorite, but the DF54 is a great option at half the price.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I was looking at the zero or is it better to get the Specialita? I only brew espresso, being that my favorite drinks are cortado, cappuccino and iced latte. So I was hoping to find my end game grinder. Thanks
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Would I tell the difference in one of these electric grinders vs the K4 Kingrinder for espresso? Thanks
HELLO. I got it but the screen froze for a while and fix after 2 minutes. Try 15-20 times at different times, it freezes once. store changed it 4 times with new specialita but same problem. I'm tired of changing. I think there is something wrong with the whole series. did you encounter the same problem? Do you know the solution?is it normal?
No, I have never heard of this.
Please explain how you get setting 2 after a reference (0) point determined to be 5?
Hey Karl, thanks for that good question. The reference point for me is the 5 on the right side of the dial. This may depend on each units calibration.
Knowing which number to start at above the reference is kind of just trial and error, but I found that with the Specialita, the wormscrew is such that the optimal grind settings are between 1 and 3 notches coarser than the reference point. 😉
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks Tom. One other thing, if you would. When I was considering this grinder, I watched a demo of it on Seattle Coffee Gear and they were showing grind capabilities from very fine to coarse (pour over).
I'd like to use it for multiple uses, but the description mentioned having to "turn the dial multiple times" to get it adjusted for this. I'm hesitant to just start cranking on the dial and wondering how practical it is to do this anyway. Any idea?
@@karlkrasnowsky3895 Hmm, well I will be honest that I use this just for espresso, and sometimes AeroPress. That being said, I turn it one full turn (360 degrees) coarser for the AeroPress. When I come back for espresso, the reference IS still calibrated at the same setting, so I figure the accuracy is good. Anyway, it is a little pain in the butt with ANY grinder to go in between settings, since it takes a bit to get dialed in for espresso. That is why I would always recommend a second smaller grinder for pourover, like the KG89, which is cheap, and does a fine job. I made a video on that one too. But, to each his own. 😉Cheers!
Does it make sense to buy Eureka single dose hopper if I plan to treat Eureka Mignon Specialita as a single dose grinder? Or just use a standard hopper and treat it as a single dose one as you do, Tom? Maybe some of the viewers have both hoppers and can share their opinion and experience on that?
Oh for sure get a single dose hopper, because it comes with a bellows, for blowing out the remaining grounds. I find that there is always still 1-2 grams left in the grind chamber and chute, which get blown out by my bellows.
We followed these instructions however when we fill the holder with beans (as opposed to just putting in the 14grams) the coffee is ground much more quickly, resulting in an overflowing holder. Any tips?
Haha, well sure you have to stop the grinder earlier when the hopper is full. I would suggest weighing your PF empty, and then trying for the 14-16 grams. Do you have a scale?
OK, so what you telling me what old beans we have to set our grinder at 5
He started actually at plus 3 from the reference right? Or what was the point of finding reference?
Yes, 3 notches away from the reference.
Can you remove and reset the little sticker on top or will it not stick back on? I would like to set the zero where my burrs start to chatter
I have not tried yet, because it seems really stuck on, and I am afraid if I pry it off, it might not be re-applicable. I just marked my zero point with a marker for now...
Just to check, your input weight is 14g but the output from the grinder is about 24g with setting at 1?
Hi! Not too sure what you mean. I normally go for 16 grams in the basket. Cheers!
I was alway wondering what will happen with grinder if you will go few notches more than reference point? can you damage the grinder this way?
Well if you let the burrs abut for too long, you will put a strain on the motor, and it may overheat. But touching for a moment will not hurt anything.
So when you find your reference point both burrs are touching then you back off of it ? Am I getting that right?
Yes, you back off right away. The touching is just instantaneous - long enough just to see where they meet.
Thanks for the video! Do you have a link to the scale you are using?
Sure, it's this one: geni.us/TimemoreBlackMirror (affiliate link)
How easy is it to change grind settings when going from espresso grind (fine) to let's say filter (coarse)? Can this all be done by just dialling the knob?
It is possible, but it will take some time for the setting to take effect. I'd recommend single dosing if you are switching often. Then you can adjust the grind while the burrs are devoid of beans, saving beans in the long run. Cheers!
quick question: at that point 5 where the burrs start to chatter, is that also the furthest the knob will turn or is that one full 360 rotation away from how far the knob will go?
i have a silenzio, and the furthest towards minimum my knob will go is the 5 before the 0. then i have to turn the wheel a full 360 degrees to get to the point where they dont chatter anymore. is this normal or is mine calibrated oddly?
Also i made the mistake of running my grinder while it was chattering for about 5 seconds once an then another 5 seconds wondering why there was no coffee. does this damage the burrs?
The burrs are flat on the top where they meet, so they shouldn't get entangled. Too much strain on the motor however can cause overheating. I just do it for a split second, to find the point where they meet, then back off immediately. I would not suggest turning further on the dial than that.
Amazing. Can having the grinder run while no beans are inside damage the burrs? Also, is it safe to find the point where they are touching or can they be damaged ?
You can go coarser with the grinder off, but should leave it on when going finer. This is because if a bean is trapped between the burrs and you get them closer together, there is a chance of misaligning them.
Touching burrs is not ideal, but if it's just for a split second, there is no problem.
You can run the grinder under no load, yes. You are just touching the burrs together for a split second. It's the flat metal parts that are touching anyway - the teeth don't intertwine.
You can just manually spin the spindle (before the hopper is on) with the machine switched off to find your reference point. Mines also 5
Why is the dedica stopping for a second or two before restarting with the shot? Sort of preinfusion hack?
That’s the integrated pre-infusion.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner , oh nice didn't know about it!
is it not dangerous close so the burr while are working moreover it makes sound when you are close to zero ? and it is needed that the machine is working to adjust the dial ? I just bought that machine that is why I am asking.
You should adjust the dial while its spinning. No, it doesn't hurt to find the calibration point. The burrs are flat where they meet, and it is just a momentary thing. Cheers!
Thank you very much for all the valuable info you’re giving out in your videos. I am just wondering if there is anything I can do to increase extraction time. I’m still working with the pressurized filter but no matter how hard I tamper, I get 30g out in less than 20 s. Could it be the grinder ? I’m using the Dedica grinder KG521J-M
Hey there! Well I think that grinder should be able to grind fine enough for either pressurized or non-pressurized filters. But I haven't tried yet myself. How freshly roasted are the beans you're using?
Hey, to increase extraction time you'd want to grind at a finer setting or increase the dose size. Tamping pressure doesn't actually increase extraction time much after applying about 30lbs of pressure, so that's why you're finding that no matter how hard you press the time is the same.
I don't know that grinder, but if it's already as fine as you can go then you would need to increase the dose.
Hey tom, should the timer start from the first drop, or when i hit the button?
Using the eureka single dose with BDB (manual button) !
I start the timer upon button press, since that is when the extraction starts. Cheers!
By finding your zero point by hearing the burrs rub against each other is it possible you have just destroyed your burrs? Ie sharp metal to metal contact?
No, the face part of the burrs are flat.
Thanks brosky. I love my specialita and Bezzera magica. Enjoy your shots!
Hi Tom. I need your professional advice. Better to buy the set shown in this video or DELONGHI La Specialista Arte?
Well Pavel, the Eureka Mignon is superior to the integrated Arte grinder, so I would recommend the Dedica/Mignon combo. Or, you could get a Manuale to save even more. Mignon Manuale: amzn.to/3G0aMSt
If your reference point is 5 why you didn't put it on 1?! Because this is your + 2 point ?
Hi David, I’m not quite sure I know what you mean? Do you mean to calibrate the sticker?
I just remember my reference point, and adjust accordingly.
Your 0 point is 5 when the burrs touch .
So if you want +2 you need to put it on 1
If you want +1 you need to put it on 0
How do you get it to hold the portafilter? Been struggling with this forever
I bought the Eureka Mignon Notte for my wife's birthday. So far we've used it to grind 6-7 shots. However, every time after a grind; the machine sounds like the burrs are starting to touch again (without changing the setting). I've repeated the dial-in process 6 times now and every time I'm having to loosen up the burrs more and more. Any thoughts?
I haven't experienced something like that myself. I'd probably open it up and be sure the burrs are aligned alright. Lance Hedrick has got some videos on that topic.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks for the reply. I ended up just returning the Notte and picking up the Kingrinder K4 and have been extremely happy with that decision. We're pulling way better tasting shots with it. I think the Notte we received just happened to be defective and another one would have worked fine; but the K4 is working great and for only 1-2 shots per day I don't mind the arm workout.
Aren't you supposed to turn the knob clockwise?
Clockwise goes finger, CCW goes coarser.
Hi Tom, thanks for the video. About to start using my silenzio illy grinder. to grind 14g of beans, which filter are you using? a single or double dose? For reference, I have two filters from neouza. They are both straight, even the single dose one.
Hi! 14g is normally a small double dose. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner ok, thanks. I normally use 18g so I thought you're going with a single dose.
Is it bad for the burrs to touch like they did when you were looking for the reference point?
Hey Isfar, the burrs are flat on top, so if they just chatter a moment, they won't choke, and it won't overload the motor. It is just to get a quick reference. I try to do it just very gently, and briefly. It is really only needed to find the reference once, or else possibly after taking apart the grinder for cleaning. Thanks for watching!
Do you need to dial in while the unit is running ? I just got the Specialita and I haven't read the user manual as of yet :) I had to ask !
Hey Tim, you should make adjustments to any grinder while it’s running, yes. It’s easier on the grinder, and it’s generally recommended. Cheers!
Hi Tom, thanks for this video! Tomorrow I wil pull my first shots with the Eureka mignon manuale and a Gaggia Classic Pro. I didn't know how to start with the grinder, so this video will help me a lot. Does it not harm your grinder when you hear those two grind blades hit each other?
Hi Randy, thanks for watching! It won’t hurt your burrs if they touch momentarily. If you look at their surfaces, where they meet is flattened off anyway. Have fun! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks Tom! It was a frustrating espresso morning 😅 The puck was very wet everytime. And with the same grind setting, I was getting different output times. Tomorrow I will pull some shots, and see what it will bring.
@@randykalkwarf Hey Randy, I often get wet pucks with the GCP. It's not really an indicator of coffee quality, just a mess.
Very instructive video! I learned 2 things: how to find zero, and to use the portafilter+funnel directly on the scale to measure out beans (lowers risk of forgetting to tare).
A newbie question: where are your sweet spots for various types of beans in your experience? For example a lightish medium roast like Black Cat classic. I struggle with upfront malic sourness with most light-medium roasts. (Mignon Silenzio + Lelit Anna).
Hi Eric! Thanks for the feedback.
As for beans, I normally stay within the med-dark realm, but not too dark. I have tried some medium roasts, but those are tricky, and often display acidity. Have you tried different extraction temps? There is a lot of information on extracting light and med roasts with the Decent DE1 forum, if you are interested.
Cheers!
Hi Tom. Please, what settings do you use for store-bought coffee (not fresh)? For some species I have to use a setting almost at the level of the reference point.
Right, older beans need to be ground even finer, but they still pretty much make terrible extractions. All I can say is to adjust so that you get a 2:1 ratio in about 25 seconds. But, try to get fresher beans if you can. Some beans print roast date indications on the bag. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you very much for your reply. Yes, you are right. I thought I was doing something wrong. I had the finest setting on the grinder, but I still couldn't get over 25 seconds extraction. Thank you for sharing your experience. Cheers!
What are tge burrs chattering against? I hope not the sharpened edge??
Nope. The burrs are flattened on top.
Hi, I'm a fan of espresso at home, using flair espresso classic. Now I want to buy an electric grinder. Which should I choose, between specialita and sette 270. What do you think?
Well, the Specialita is WAY quieter. The Sette is super loud. That is a deciding factor for me, so that I don't wake up the household. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Well, I'll buy the Specialita this week. Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
Does the amount of crema depend on the coffee grinder?
Somewhat - you need a decent grinder. The Specialita is very good. But mainly you need good freshly roasted coffee beans.
Hello, I just got the Specialita. My dial knob is pretty tight to rotate. In the video, it seems pretty smooth to rotate the knob. Is it normal to have a tight adjustment knob?
Hey Kim, the knob does have some resistance, but it is smooth. Maybe yours needs a little time to wear in?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I see. Hopefully that is the case. Thanks!
These videos are very helpful! However, using the same Grinder, if i grind below 1 , using a medium force when Tamping, the portafilter moves during extraction and if i'm not careful it will even go flying. I have seen other videos with people using dedica with very fine grind, so not sure why i can't? I'm using NEOUZA bottomless portafilter and usually 12g of coffee. Any tips welcome!
Hello there! It’s hard to say what might be going wrong, without seeing a video. Does the same thing happen if you use the original portafilter?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hi! Thats the issue i believe, the portafilter quality, even though I did buy the best rated in Amazon Spain i see that it does not seal like the original and moves. May I ask which one you use?
@@jolkil Hey there! I just got in a high quality portafilter from Normcore. I am thinking this is the best option for aftermarket, but it is not in every market. I imported mine from Amazon.com: amzn.to/3kn1Z0Q
Otherwise, you could also just cut the bottom off the portafilter the machine came with, as a cheaper alternative.