Is it really a dex if the devs are in control, can block, disable and freeze accounts as well as the whole exchange? I guess there are different levels of decentralization
The Devs can't do anything to your account or transaction. Even the node operators if they had unanimity, they couldn't touch your account as you have custody of that at all times aside from the few minutes or secs of the transaction time. When they only accept or reject your transaction
@@TravisFont i don't think they need branding, if they are just integrating with your favourite front ends. You will use metamask, 1 inch, trustswap, ledger and have no clue thorchain works underneath. And those frontends worry about branding, and making the most from affiliate fees of thorchain. BTC has no branding and people use it, it's gonna be the same.
Wow what a project. Probably biggest dex very soon. Thorchain seems like 0-1 innovation when the world needed it the most. Financial freedom, yield and connection blockchains all in a decentralized way. 🤯
Great interview guys, great interview. Great guests, kudos for the quality of the podcast David. Mind doing one podcast with Aaluxx from Maya Protocol DEX which is a friendly fork of THORChain. Keep it going....🔝🔝🔝
"Bankless don't trust bridges because different sets of trust assumptions are involved." But Bankless encourages users to use ETH L2s that do use bridges and have different trust assumptions from the main net. This is kind of hypocrisy why ppl view this channel with growing suspicion. Crypto media would be more credible if a uniform metric is applied to all projects, not taking favoritism for particular bag positions.
I am sad to say the UI has been a dissapointing experience for me. Simply because it is so slow with numerous occasions where I have not managed to connect a wallet or sync a balance. I hope it improves as the concept is compelling.
I feel like it would be nice if you could’ve dived a little deeper into the tech behind streaming swaps, no IL yield, the lending mechs, etc. But great episode overall!
The most impressive thing about Thorchain is the RUNE economics. They did a good job with that. As a cross chain protocol, Chainlink CCIP will wipe the floor with Thorchain
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Nice interview. Would have liked to hear whether Thorchain is looking at supporting more coins than they currently do (they don't support Solana for example)
Since january 2023 until december 2023 I get profit 9x. Thanks Thorchain. I buy more for prepare bull run parabolic April 2024. Ganbate kudasai thorchain kun.
If its a machine, its subject to regulation. It needs maintenance and bug fixes and security updates. Whoever maintains the machine is subject to regulation. Right?
@@sid1920 Chad Barraford and Erik Vorhees arent anonymous. If it gets big enough, none of these people are anonymous. This works only as long as regulators don't get a hard on for them and everyone involved.
It's obvious you still have little understanding of blockchains and virtual machines.....but take it from a bigger brain it can't be regulated....and do some real homework if u really want to know why
I have Rune on the BNB Chain in my wallet. What options do I have to switch it to the THOR Chain? Unfortunately, a deposit at Binance is not possible....
While I do appreciate the tech is objectively useful infrastructure, 'Thorchain' as a name is so edgelord and detached from the function of the protocol. Complete missed opportunity to call it 'Runenet' (a network for exchanging value symbols), or even some reference to the Well of Urd (perhaps just Urd) if you really wanted a Norse reference.
because it won't work. Arbitrage on thorchain works for a benefit of swappers. Arbitrage on eth works to the detriment of swappers (aka sandwitch attacks an so on)
The explanation of the incentives for validators naturally rebalancing to provide economic security sounds scarily similar to UST on Luna. I’m very ignorant technically so I would love an explanation as to why this is completely different.
It's very different. The demand for UST came for a large part from the unsustainable anchor yield. The yield on thorchain comes from the demand to trade btc to eth. As long as there is trading demand, there will be fees and thus yield. There is also no minting or burning going on in this feature. TC got hurt big by the luna crash as lots of tvl was lost instantly, the team knows what happened there and they are not making the same mistake. The rebalacing is just between the nodes and the liquidity pools. But in any case, you can just trade on TC without being exposed to any risk (unless something like a hack happens precisely when your trade is being executed, but that would be extremely unlucky since you are only exposed for a short amount of time)
The circuit breakers n stuff is only related to lending though. Which is an experimental feature with a hard cap on how much can be lend out, thus limiting the risk in case everything goes wrong.
I think its because there is no asset thats minted on the back of RUNE. UST was a liability of LUNA, and when UST peg collapsed, it took LUNA with it, and also visa versa. When RUNE drops in price, ETH, BTC just flow out of the system, but there's no liability on the back of RUNE
THORchain's moral failing is refusing to support privacy protocols as first class assets. The one place where not having intermediaries actually matters.
Adding privacy protocols opens the door to regulators and governmental entities having a good reason to go after ThorChain. Risking losing the ability to not having to go to the ftx of today is not worth it
Anyone having problem with there Thor wallet on iOS .. I’m having to power down to pull it up.. and then it loads for about 3 seconds and screen goes black.. no problems with my other wallets .. I figured I could go thru Thor swap but I can’t find how I connect Thor wallet to it? Any help is appreciated
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I have to say Thorchain looks fire. They are going to be No.1 DEX in upcoming bullrun if that's how efficient they are now
You're damn right.
Their branding is shit, so unfortunately no. They're competitive for sure.
Is it really a dex if the devs are in control, can block, disable and freeze accounts as well as the whole exchange? I guess there are different levels of decentralization
The Devs can't do anything to your account or transaction. Even the node operators if they had unanimity, they couldn't touch your account as you have custody of that at all times aside from the few minutes or secs of the transaction time. When they only accept or reject your transaction
@@TravisFont i don't think they need branding, if they are just integrating with your favourite front ends. You will use metamask, 1 inch, trustswap, ledger and have no clue thorchain works underneath. And those frontends worry about branding, and making the most from affiliate fees of thorchain. BTC has no branding and people use it, it's gonna be the same.
There is something about how Erik Voorhees explains complex things with so much clarity!
Yeah i love how he re-iterated the complex bits each time ❤
He has that stoic wisdom for sure.
Thorchain is a technological miracle. Will soon be #1 exchange period.
😂
Shoutout to Eric rolling out of bed straight to the interview lol
And shout-out to Chad for taking a shower! 😂
This is the single most undervalued opportunity in the ALT coin space since Ethereum launched in 2015
RUNE is going parabolic in 2024/25, im glad i bought around 1$ ✌
Wow what a project. Probably biggest dex very soon. Thorchain seems like 0-1 innovation when the world needed it the most. Financial freedom, yield and connection blockchains all in a decentralized way. 🤯
But how does it differ from GMX for example?
Best thorchain video so far. No hyping no moons no rockets , big Brains talking :) I salute you for this content and just subscribed.
What a fantastic project to follow, excited by all the things coming in the next months
The fact that I trust Erik Voorhees more than Janet Yellen says it all
One of the best dex/projects in the world
It surprises me that very few people know about thorchain
Concise and informative. Well done!!
Thorchain is really revolutionary piece of technology!
Excellent interview!!!!
39:15 missed marketing opportunity: “Single ASSet Yield” should be called SASSY
one of the better episodes- great guests - more like this please
Thorchain is going to melt faces. Project of the year
Excellent show, thanks for finally giving light to one of the very biggest and best hopes for crypto and decentralization moving forward.
Thank you Bankless!!!!
Good to see interviews with those building beyond Ethereum. There’s a lot happening out there that deserves attention and coverage.
Fantastic interview. Well done Bankless !
Great interview chad & eric
Been using Thorchain for a few months now and it's dooooope. Savers rates are good. 🤙
Can you add that "Introduction to THORChain for Bitcoiners" article from Erik you mentioned please @bankless?
This is so awsome!! 🔥🔥
wow this seems really strong
great vid, great project, big fan of Shapeshift also as I received some great support from them in the past.
Great interview guys, great interview. Great guests, kudos for the quality of the podcast David. Mind doing one podcast with Aaluxx from Maya Protocol DEX which is a friendly fork of THORChain. Keep it going....🔝🔝🔝
imagine how big thorchain would be already without initial hiccups : )
Awesome episode.
Cheers
"Bankless don't trust bridges because different sets of trust assumptions are involved." But Bankless encourages users to use ETH L2s that do use bridges and have different trust assumptions from the main net. This is kind of hypocrisy why ppl view this channel with growing suspicion. Crypto media would be more credible if a uniform metric is applied to all projects, not taking favoritism for particular bag positions.
Clear a lot of things up for me. Thanks for this interview.
Love THORChain and use Kraken too, but love the fact that this video about the ultimate DEX is indirectly sponsored by a CEX 🤣
I am sad to say the UI has been a dissapointing experience for me. Simply because it is so slow with numerous occasions where I have not managed to connect a wallet or sync a balance. I hope it improves as the concept is compelling.
Crazy how the interview ends when they call out uniswap
Will it support Pulsechain? I know Eric hate RH.
What are the implication of RUNE Vs chainlink CCIP ? can CCIP offer what THORChain is offering ?
Top Project!
RUNE + CACAO easy 100x next cycle and i aint even joking
I feel like it would be nice if you could’ve dived a little deeper into the tech behind streaming swaps, no IL yield, the lending mechs, etc. But great episode overall!
!!!!!!!!!! Thorchain with Rune is a like gem last chance to be incognito in this wird world !!!!!!!!!!
Another step towards popping your bubble... congrats!
Fantastic episode! Is the concept of a 'stateless bridge' just as problematic as a regular bridge with wrapped assets?
How does Thorchain differ from GMX which was even advertised in this episode?
30:35 ye that is wild for amm
The most impressive thing about Thorchain is the RUNE economics. They did a good job with that. As a cross chain protocol, Chainlink CCIP will wipe the floor with Thorchain
what Chainlink CCIP has to do with thorchain ? any educational material or YT video? thanks
Please have these guys back for an update
Interchain Attestations (EAS...) combined with the Thor Chain approach could rock even more... imo
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Nice info, i appreciate your concern this will help a lot especially to the young investors who have no or lesser knowledge on how the market works
Great episode! Thorchain is a fundamentally and very necessary project in DeFi infrastructure.
This video is a must-watch for anyone interested in understanding Thorchain, the $RUNE token and its impact on the crypto space. It's an eye-opener and a great resource for both beginners and seasoned crypto enthusiasts. Definitely a valuable addition to my cryptocurrency learning journey!
Nice interview. Would have liked to hear whether Thorchain is looking at supporting more coins than they currently do (they don't support Solana for example)
Tried it. Works great.
Now that REN is gone, Thorchains biggest use case is washing Bitcoin. As long as that holds true, Thorchain will do well
Thorchain = no brainer
Since january 2023 until december 2023 I get profit 9x. Thanks Thorchain. I buy more for prepare bull run parabolic April 2024. Ganbate kudasai thorchain kun.
Wait, I didn’t think Thorchain was going to add monero…???
i didn't know sylvester stallone's son could code???!!!
is he related to silvester stalone ?
If its a machine, its subject to regulation. It needs maintenance and bug fixes and security updates. Whoever maintains the machine is subject to regulation. Right?
How do you regulate anonimous Devs & nodes?
@@sid1920 Chad Barraford and Erik Vorhees arent anonymous. If it gets big enough, none of these people are anonymous. This works only as long as regulators don't get a hard on for them and everyone involved.
It's obvious you still have little understanding of blockchains and virtual machines.....but take it from a bigger brain it can't be regulated....and do some real homework if u really want to know why
Can I send bitcoin metamask to binance wallet
Used thorswap and its amazing
Wow Sly Stallone's son is in crypto ?
😂 had the same thought!
I knew about TC before, but just "inhaled" nearly an hour of information like it is nothing
if it's not a bridge how did thorchain got haacked before ?
How is wanchain or others not extremely similar if not same?
The moderators doesn't seem go understand Chad 😅, he isn't asking much questions
Which coins have the best ecosystem?
I have Rune on the BNB Chain in my wallet. What options do I have to switch it to the THOR Chain? Unfortunately, a deposit at Binance is not possible....
Sounds alot like Liquid Loans on PulseChain... Hey always good to have a plan B.
this is bold. i love it.
Awesome ❣️
Isn't everything undervalued in the Bear Market?
GROK n Roll guys..
🌱
Rune is going to break the stick
Thorchain team please add monero also
AWESOME!! super cool. Also chad looks like the AI generated version of a nerd Silvester Stallone! super cool!!!!!!!!!! great interview! Love Eric!
Good work guys
Where does the value accrue?
trading fees
Same way as binance or coinbase, from the fees paid by people trading on the exchange
When thorswap ICO debacle going to be resolved though?
👀
While I do appreciate the tech is objectively useful infrastructure, 'Thorchain' as a name is so edgelord and detached from the function of the protocol.
Complete missed opportunity to call it 'Runenet' (a network for exchanging value symbols), or even some reference to the Well of Urd (perhaps just Urd) if you really wanted a Norse reference.
Thorchain is huuuge
ETF will never happen unless get rid of DEX
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Wow excellent!
Why not make a ETH L2 version of this cross-chain DEX
because it won't work. Arbitrage on thorchain works for a benefit of swappers. Arbitrage on eth works to the detriment of swappers (aka sandwitch attacks an so on)
You obviously didn’t listen to the interview😂
The explanation of the incentives for validators naturally rebalancing to provide economic security sounds scarily similar to UST on Luna. I’m very ignorant technically so I would love an explanation as to why this is completely different.
It's very different. The demand for UST came for a large part from the unsustainable anchor yield. The yield on thorchain comes from the demand to trade btc to eth. As long as there is trading demand, there will be fees and thus yield. There is also no minting or burning going on in this feature. TC got hurt big by the luna crash as lots of tvl was lost instantly, the team knows what happened there and they are not making the same mistake. The rebalacing is just between the nodes and the liquidity pools.
But in any case, you can just trade on TC without being exposed to any risk (unless something like a hack happens precisely when your trade is being executed, but that would be extremely unlucky since you are only exposed for a short amount of time)
There is no uncapped burn-mint mechanism, the thing that brought Luna down
There is a circuit breaker that orevents a luna like minting death spiral. Look up the thorchain circuit breaker in their documentation.
The circuit breakers n stuff is only related to lending though. Which is an experimental feature with a hard cap on how much can be lend out, thus limiting the risk in case everything goes wrong.
I think its because there is no asset thats minted on the back of RUNE. UST was a liability of LUNA, and when UST peg collapsed, it took LUNA with it, and also visa versa.
When RUNE drops in price, ETH, BTC just flow out of the system, but there's no liability on the back of RUNE
🚮 🗑️
THORchain's moral failing is refusing to support privacy protocols as first class assets. The one place where not having intermediaries actually matters.
Not refusing just not possible yet in a safe way via TC
Adding privacy protocols opens the door to regulators and governmental entities having a good reason to go after ThorChain. Risking losing the ability to not having to go to the ftx of today is not worth it
But check Maya for privacy coins
those are coming, question is you gonna jum onboard before it happens, or will chase the pumps after it happens
@@brahdha1335 if it can be "gone after" then it's not decentralised
Why would you allow a scam Project on your show?
This sounds like a ponzi. Having all in Rune is non sense
interview Charles Hoskinson or Richard Heart
Ada is a joke
They are trying to interview Richard as we speak xD Except Richard is running away from that interview
Anyone having problem with there Thor wallet on iOS .. I’m having to power down to pull it up.. and then it loads for about 3 seconds and screen goes black.. no problems with my other wallets .. I figured I could go thru Thor swap but I can’t find how I connect Thor wallet to it? Any help is appreciated