Ulster Scots documentary: The Hamely Tongue - Hidden Culture

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  • @theLoudinRich
    @theLoudinRich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    These are the sounds of the language I grew up with in WV. The words are not the same, but the vowels, pauses, and melody of the language are the same spoken by my parents and grandparents. I am blown away. It sounds like home.

    • @vannjunkin8041
      @vannjunkin8041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Some of the words are the same if you dive into them you can feel the origin

    • @vannjunkin8041
      @vannjunkin8041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ats us Nai
      That's us now
      North Alabama:
      Ats what I'm talkin about.
      That's what I'm talking about

    • @vannjunkin8041
      @vannjunkin8041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ulster Scot: Hallion
      North Alabama: Hellion

    • @vannjunkin8041
      @vannjunkin8041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And your correct the melody the Timbre of the pauses still there

    • @corneliuswowbagger
      @corneliuswowbagger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am from one of several old, easy to trace families in Ohio County, West Virginia. One of my childhood buddies four times great grandfather could have had the same relationship to mine. We had lost the language to the cultural mix of the nearby upper Ohio Valley, but the travel back and forth between Ulster and the Borders rings a bell. My family most recently from Galloway had come from Ulster originally. Celts like all of the others.

  • @benjamingrist6539
    @benjamingrist6539 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Warms my heart to see Irish and Ulster-Scots, Catholics and Protestants getting along at least in these small pockets. It gives me hope that someday, though they may not agree politically or religiously, the people of Northern Ireland will all live together in the spirit of peace and friendship.

    • @TKDragon75
      @TKDragon75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My family were Ulster-Scots and Roman Catholic.

    • @Molach101
      @Molach101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I'm a Scots speaker, baptised a Protestant but of Catholic descent in Scotland & I consider myself a Republican & supporter of a United Ireland. I also speak Scottish Gaelic.

    • @brianmcgovern6207
      @brianmcgovern6207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We r all Irish... If we all accept that.... No more bother...

    • @johnshelton1141
      @johnshelton1141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you!

    • @robertcharles910
      @robertcharles910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coronavirus 2020. The world's in awe...

  • @GrottoGroveGroves
    @GrottoGroveGroves 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    From the mountains of East Tennessee. Can hear my grandparents in some of their speech, and all the music.

    • @johndoe-ss9bz
      @johndoe-ss9bz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Scots Tenant-Farmers in North East Ireland were persecuted as Presbyterians along with Irish Catholics under Anglican Penal Laws. They were also overtaxed on the Homes they built on land owned by English Absentee Landlords. The Rebel Scots left for America to fight the Crown in the American War of Independence side by side with every religion in the Colonies. The Loyalists to the Crown stayed in Ireland and unlike the Rebels who fought for American Independence they fought to protect the Crown and live as Subjects of the Crown instead of the Free Republic like the Republic of the United States of America

    • @miguelluedekezelenka6496
      @miguelluedekezelenka6496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johndoe-ss9bz You tell a pretty story, but it's deceptively inaccurate. Ulster-Scots started immigrating to North America in 1717, well before the American Revolution and fought for the crown during the French-Indian War. From 1642 to 1651, the Ulster-Scots, along with other English Puritans, both supported Oliver Cromwell during the English Civil War and fought on the side of King Billy against James II, who was the last Catholic monarch of England, Scotland, and Ireland. You also fail to recognize that each colony had their own religious penal laws, particularly against Catholics. Even Maryland, which was originally conceived as a sanctuary for Catholics repealed the colony's Toleration Act in 1654 and replaced it with restrictions on Catholics. As for America's loyalty to the crown, by the time of the 1770 Boston Massacre, wide spread resentment toward the crown was limited to Massachusetts and a few of it's neighboring colonies and it wasn't until 1774 that the colonies resorted to actual open rebellion against the monarchy. Before the American Revolution, we were British. We viewed ourselves as royal subjects and we acted like it.

    • @MALEXI10
      @MALEXI10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you understand the difference that exists between Irish Catholics and Ulster Protestants? Do you understand that they see themselves as different?

  • @vannjunkin8041
    @vannjunkin8041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Its astounding how much of the Carolinas, Tennessee, and especially North Alabama I hear in that opening voice.

  • @matthewgordonpettipas6773
    @matthewgordonpettipas6773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can recognize some of the words and definitely the music. My town was founded by Scots Irish pioneers (and I descend from them). It's cool to learn more about the language they would have spoken, to get a better understanding of my own heritage.

  • @andymullins84
    @andymullins84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have and ancestor who was 22 yrs old in Ballymena in 1798. He was to be arrested for his part in the uprising in Antrim. He moved to Pennsylvania. Most of my family on my mama's side and half on my dad's side are Scots-Irish. We are from Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Alabama and Texas.

  • @teangaire
    @teangaire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    An eye opener indeed... remnants of an old language there all right. I'd like to hear some live speakers sometime.
    Oscailt súl uilig dom féin... tá seanteanga le cloisteáil ann gan dabht ar bith. Ba mhaith liom castáil le cainteoirí am eicint amach anseo.

  • @roderickshelton1011
    @roderickshelton1011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am a proud American descendant of these people

    • @johndoe-ss9bz
      @johndoe-ss9bz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are now Socialists living off the Dole paid by Hard Working English Taxpayers. Socialist Housing, Socialist Medical. Social Family Allowance and no incentive to get a job.

    • @johndoe-ss9bz
      @johndoe-ss9bz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ulster Scots Loyalists in the 6-eastern counties of the 9-county Ulster the Northern Province of 4-Provence Island of Ireland. They are mostly unemployed, by choice, living the life of Riley on the English Dole, socialist-housing, social-medical care, family-allowance, (mo-money for more children. And non-contributory old-age-pension. The Hard Working English Taxpayers would be glad if the Free-Republic of Ireland would relieve them by creating a United Ireland. The English Economy would boom with the elimination of the Tax Burden of housing, feeding and The Scots Irish in the 6-eastern counties of Ulster province of Ireland

  • @VTdarkangel
    @VTdarkangel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That fiddle music, damn! If I didn't know better, I would think it was my relatives playing.

  • @paulduffy4585
    @paulduffy4585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful.

  • @ambereverson8692
    @ambereverson8692 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Six generations away from Ulster. Kin to McLaughlin and Gilbreth. My branch of family settled in Arkansas, USA. My great grans sounded so very similar in speech pattern. It's like hearing them again after almost 30 years.

  • @marybrewer2203
    @marybrewer2203 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My heart...

  • @ShamFraeTheToon
    @ShamFraeTheToon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed that....Thankyou.

  • @mollymcguire3622
    @mollymcguire3622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    oklahoma, missouri same tongue

  • @Tri-StarTN
    @Tri-StarTN 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is Pre-Appalachian dialect.

    • @vannjunkin8041
      @vannjunkin8041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sure is.. I recognized it immediately.

  • @dublinpiper
    @dublinpiper ปีที่แล้ว

    THE best delve into Ulster Scots, sad too, that many of the principle contributors and native speakers have since departed; Wilbert Garven, James Fenton, and as I write this, probably the oldest speaker, Will McAvoy is in his 100th year. Growing older, and getting fewer..... this is precious

  • @huub1989
    @huub1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This tongue exists too in Donegal, of course it was highly planted with Scots.

    • @johndoe-ss9bz
      @johndoe-ss9bz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Donegall is one of the 3-FREE ULSTER IRELAND counties. 6-Counties of Ulster Provence are still an English Colony ruled from London. Colonial North East Ireland.

  • @kieransavage3835
    @kieransavage3835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My father was born on the Ards Co Down The accent there was very Scottish.

  • @AAA-fh5kd
    @AAA-fh5kd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THANKZ!!! amazin

  • @AAA-fh5kd
    @AAA-fh5kd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so much great stuff in disyin

  • @robmccoy9765
    @robmccoy9765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eastern Kentucky, southern West Virginia

    • @Calatriste54
      @Calatriste54 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blown to oblivion into Oregon after the Nez Perce War of 77. Not forgotten by God. YDNA are the fingerprints of God.

  • @arsantiqua8741
    @arsantiqua8741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is probably one of those languages that non-native English speakers understand with a bit of effort.

  • @AAA-fh5kd
    @AAA-fh5kd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the tower of babel bit ! sae guid

  • @FPSIreland2
    @FPSIreland2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tá sé iontach go chuireadh é seo i láthair as Gaeilge. Deas é a fheiceáil.

  • @FXSTB-i
    @FXSTB-i 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nae herm tae yees but fae a body fae jist o'er the sea that's a sair listen.

  • @MALEXI10
    @MALEXI10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Northern Ireland (UK): Armagh, Antrim, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry, Tyrone.
    Ulster: All of the above and Donegal, Cavan, and Monaghan (Republic of Ireland).
    North of Ireland is a vague and political term

    • @joebyrne3159
      @joebyrne3159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      9 counties in Ulster, ya Muppet!

    • @MALEXI10
      @MALEXI10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joebyrne3159 I think that was highlighted 🤣
      The Irish Republic seceded from the United Kingdom of Great and Ireland and left their compatriots behind. How romantic, eh?

    • @johndoe-ss9bz
      @johndoe-ss9bz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MALEXI10 :The Power of the Imperial Army, set up a Sectarian Border, a border to isolate the most Protestants to maintain a Protestant Majority to govern over the Native Remaining Catholics that were not forced to leave. The Rebel Irish Republican Army, which had taken on the British Empire, without outside help accomplished Freedom and Liberty for 26-counties of 32-county Ireland. Yes 6-Counties of North East Ireland are nothing more than a Colonial-Leftover, and now a burden on the Hard-Working English Taxpayer.

  • @christopherphillipskeates9194
    @christopherphillipskeates9194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @brianmcgovern6207
    @brianmcgovern6207 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Accent....

    • @kieranwalker3953
      @kieranwalker3953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brian Mcgovern No, accent defines phonological differences only, once you are dealing with vocabulary and grammar differences you start to move into the labels of dialect and language (which is a blurry line).

    • @brianmcgovern6207
      @brianmcgovern6207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kieranwalker3953 if went down to Cork or the like.... They would understand u after a week.... If u went to France for a week .. Fosay... The wouldn't....

    • @kieranwalker3953
      @kieranwalker3953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Brian Mcgovern I’m not claiming that they wouldn’t, I’m only disputing your use of accent when it is clearly a dialect because of differences in grammar and vocabulary. South and north Dublin are accents, English of the American south and Hiberno English are dialects. If you don’t agree with my definition that’s fine

    • @brianmcgovern6207
      @brianmcgovern6207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kieranwalker3953 I no what ur saying.... I lived with kerry lads in America.. There was lads there from every county.. We all had our own accents.... There was boys who were there to long who even picked up the American accent.... 😏..

  • @robertcharles910
    @robertcharles910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful .