It’s even labeled as "JP-4 Marimba" on the multitrack sheet that Matt Forger shows on his webcam! ♡ ♥💕❤😘 Love, love, love-let’s all be kind to each other and never underestimate the Michael Jackson music community. What would Quincy say? "Leave your ego at the door." We’re all human, and we can all be wrong. I’m writing this with the utmost respect. I’ve learned more about synths from Anthony Marinelli than from anyone else!
A very good reminder that it's not having the craziest full featured gear, but something that knows how and can be tweaked how to sit in a mix, is more important. A basic synth with a good sound can fill all your needs if you're relying on musicality rather than crazy wavefolding, etc., tricks that will attract too much attention unless they're the lead, you can make a legendary track
The impressive thing here is that the sound itself is not especially noticeable alone. It the combination of sounds. This principle is possibly the most important point I have learned from this channel and probably the most difficult to master. That’s life.
@@markaprill6501 true that, chris liepe has a channel on YT where he breaks down the stems of many MJ songs (others also) and its insane to see how many sounds and tracks are "hidden" or almost unheard until u know
Anthony, Your content has been great. I sense a genuine gentleness of spirit and your willingness to teach others is soooo appreciated. Too many are taking their "secrets" to the grave. Mentoring is important work - thank you! Thank you!
In a perfect world I would just hang out in the studio with you, Greg, Claudio and all the other synth geeks past and present and just sound design, jam and create all day. But, until then thank you for your gentle soul and sonic generosity. Love and greetings from Corpus Christi TX
People say that gated snare or DX-7 piano are "the sound of the 80s", but the truth is - tuned percussion is the sound of the 80s. It's everywhere, across pretty much every genre and type of song, particularly marimba, real or synthetic. Rhythmic pads composed of these short tuned sounds are just all over the place until about 1987.. ..then the M1 appeared, and that was EVERYWHERE for the next 5 years!
Keynote here to take away is experimentation with the length of the notes. Can make a 'beep' of a difference to a track's feel, and sometimes even the synth sound itself. Can end up sounding different, depending on what settings you're using. If it's sensitive to velocity, aftertouch, cutoff, etc. A whole new world to discover!
This reminds me of my percussion/sticking nuances learned over time, and from wise instructors. Sometimes it is more effective to play a series of say, snare drum notes with one hand(stick) rather than alternating hands. This is a debate for pieces like "Bolero." Some would insist you must alternate for continuity, but it may be discovered that each stick has its own resonance and "tang" which bleeds through the actual drum sound. So, for Bolero, some begin the famous ppp snare pattern with a single stick, then switch to alternating as the piece swells : ) The technique he demonstrates here confirms its a more percussive/kinetic, rather than synth sound, leading many to mistake it for a plucked muted guitar : )
Consummate Synth scientists at work & play… Michael J always said, “ Study the greats & become greater…” Here with Anthony & all the rest, we have this opportunity… if not to be greater, at least to study the greats … Much love always Anthony & team… 😍🕊️😍
The MiniMoog has the most amazing envelope/filter combo. Especially the percussive tones you are getting for this patch. Very well explained and easy to recreate. Everyone should have one of these wonderful instruments to play and experiment with. Thanks Anthony for all the great educational content and taking the time to explain and be so kind! Cheers
Hey Anthony! Your album stories totally vibe with me, man. Love hearing your perspective on it all. Big ups! Greetings from sunny La Serena city, Chile. Keep the good vibes rollin'!
I made an instrumental cover of Thriller a couple years back and after seeing these videos on recreating the sounds from Thriller are sooo helpful not to mention really interesting and insightful. Recreating these sounds using Arturia’s VSTs are not quite the same but it’s a lot of fun exploring these iconic sounds. Thanks Anthony, I love these types of videos they are expertly made down to the last detail and it’s just awesome to hear these iconic tracks deconstructed 😎
Thank you soooo much for taking the time to not only explain but demonstrate the various uses and impacts of the filters and frequencies. Demonstrating these functions and features on such well known tones makes learning and understanding so much more relatable and digestible. Thank you thank you thank you for the lessons and most of all your amazing sounds and music! Love this channel
Your explanation is so clear and I can apply the principles you teach about this one specific sound to pretty much anything. Thanks for taking the time to do so. I hope your channel gets bigger and bigger.
Man, you've done it again. Hope you won't get offended when I say I've always listened to that part, but never heard it properly. It's been part of the glorious soup that is the Thriller sound, and here's the raw ingredient. Also, this is just part of it. I'm intrigued where this comes in the big picture - does the synth line come first and need a sound? The track needs the sound and the synth line is written to fit? Were there parts that were discarded? Appreciate that it's likely more organic than that, but great parts were written, and great patches were created, and it all fits perfectly. I'll wait for the Greg vid, and in the meantime, thank you.
Anthony and Greg weren't composing or arranging on this track. Rod had a fully arranged demo, just recorded more quickly on cheaper gear. Anthony made better sounds. Greg played it better. All of the ideas for parts are from Rod, though. As to how Rod wrote it, haven't heard much about his writing process in this era. Just a couple of years earlier, though, he was writing all of the Heatwave demos with just a suitcase Rhodes. Think, by Thriller, he was making demos with a Linn and a Jupiter 4, but never had that confirmed. Is what his demos sound like to me, particularly the chorus used to thicken the parts.
@@SarcasticTruth77Thanks for this - I get the songs were written & arranged (and like you say scratch demos made), but from some of these Thriller videos there seems to be gaps left for creativity - would be interested to see before / after comparisons. Cheers
@@simonrussell4986 It's that way with some demos. Sometimes, a demo can be as lean as someone playing guitar or keys while singing. Not Rod's stuff, though. He's famous for writing it all. You can hear that with this song. Before Michael got the idea to turn it in to a monster movie thing as Thriller, Rod's song was called Starlight. The demo is here on TH-cam. Search for "Michael Jackson Starlight demo", or similar, and you'll find it. The version with Rod singing his vocals isn't here. It's Michael giving a scratch vocal a go. You will hear the complete original backing track Rod recorded, though. All of the little comps/overdubs are there. Rod was amazing.
ByI set a reminder for this and I didn't get it, booo TH-cam. But I'm here anyway, and yeah Antony. ❤ I just wanted to add....... Darkness falls across the land, the midnight hour is close at hand
man is wearing Arc'teryx, y'all... make no mistake, that is a perfect sartorial expression of the quality and prowess of his synth sound design technique.
Hi Anthony. I really love your channel. It would be amazing if you could share some insight into the signal flow used for the recording of the Thriller album. How the synths were processed and tracked to tape. Thanks so much!
Hi Anthony, I have always loved this sound. Like others, I assumed it was a JP8. Did you, do you have model D patch dial sheets that you documented these patch sounds with? If so please post them up for us fellow 70s and early 80s synthologists.
And all that details just for one sound patch… it’s no wonder in terms of sonic design, arguably, Thriller remains among the top of everything in recorded history …
I appreciate all your efforts in doing these interesting videos. Thanks for that. But, if I may offer a little constructive criticism, perhaps you should watch the audio level of your Lavalier mic, because your voice is so hot in the mix that it's slightly distorting.
@anthonymarinellimusic I wanted to take a moment to thank you for your videos, I've realized over the past couple days just how much nonsense (and synth-splaning) you must listen to on a daily basis. Peace, love and transistors! Nico
So, Anthony, I'm just wondering. Did you do Amy work on MJs Earth song. That's one of favorite productions, Ever 😊 And as usual another great synth lesson.
I would have guessed that since there's no aftertouch or velocity in the patch that you could use "normal" keyboard fingering and get the same sound, but obviously it isn't and my mind is blown yet again. :-)
Boney M. - Ma Baker 👈 When I saw that video for the first time over the summer, I didn't think that plucky sound was actually being played by the keyboard player shown, given the deceptive nature of the whole Boney M. thing. Turns out it's possible because this sound is very close. Being new to analog synthesis, I didn't think you could get that sound on an analog synth.
Have you been approached by the Masterclass people? Herbie Hancock has one, but I think it would be great to have a class on classic analog synth programming.
Did you know you would be part of one of the greatest albums ever made? If so, at what point of production or which track made your heart sing? Thank you for your channel!
Besides that strat picking and this marimba, there is some third rhythmic arrangement part that also sounds similar to a dulled xylophone, but that part is not disclosed for some reason. Anthony, can you dislose that third part that quietly makes all the juice in this rhythmic groove, not just the obvious ones? Or those are the bongos that make that effect and there is no other rhythmic part?
It’s even labeled as "JP-4 Marimba" on the multitrack sheet that Matt Forger shows on his webcam! ♡ ♥💕❤😘 Love, love, love-let’s all be kind to each other and never underestimate the Michael Jackson music community. What would Quincy say? "Leave your ego at the door." We’re all human, and we can all be wrong. I’m writing this with the utmost respect. I’ve learned more about synths from Anthony Marinelli than from anyone else!
Haha! I’m glad you got a video clip in of Greg playing the “frog bass” part
its refreshing to watch professionals explain some of what involved in bringing such iconic sounds !
A very good reminder that it's not having the craziest full featured gear, but something that knows how and can be tweaked how to sit in a mix, is more important. A basic synth with a good sound can fill all your needs if you're relying on musicality rather than crazy wavefolding, etc., tricks that will attract too much attention unless they're the lead, you can make a legendary track
The impressive thing here is that the sound itself is not especially noticeable alone. It the combination of sounds. This principle is possibly the most important point I have learned from this channel and probably the most difficult to master. That’s life.
@@markaprill6501 true that, chris liepe has a channel on YT where he breaks down the stems of many MJ songs (others also) and its insane to see how many sounds and tracks are "hidden" or almost unheard until u know
Anthony,
Your content has been great. I sense a genuine gentleness of spirit and your willingness to teach others is soooo appreciated. Too many are taking their "secrets" to the grave. Mentoring is important work - thank you! Thank you!
What a great comment and so on point. Well said ❤
@@b00ts4ndc4ts - Thanks! I think Anthony is marvelous!
Gentleness of spirit it’s a perfect way to describe this man. Anthony is humble yet wildly accomplished!
In a perfect world I would just hang out in the studio with you, Greg, Claudio and all the other synth geeks past and present and just sound design, jam and create all day. But, until then thank you for your gentle soul and sonic generosity. Love and greetings from Corpus Christi TX
Shoot, this is premium educational material. Crazy that I can watch this for free.
Greg is so right…it’s an inherent performance to the sound. This idea is what all great musicians are doing on every great performance.
People say that gated snare or DX-7 piano are "the sound of the 80s", but the truth is - tuned percussion is the sound of the 80s. It's everywhere, across pretty much every genre and type of song, particularly marimba, real or synthetic. Rhythmic pads composed of these short tuned sounds are just all over the place until about 1987..
..then the M1 appeared, and that was EVERYWHERE for the next 5 years!
This is by far my absolute favourite moment of any song. Just this fragment, so thrilling.
More awesomeness from Anthony!
i own a moog grandmother, so these video’s are very interesting to me, grtz from the netherlands 🇳🇱
Keynote here to take away is experimentation with the length of the notes. Can make a 'beep' of a difference to a track's feel, and sometimes even the synth sound itself. Can end up sounding different, depending on what settings you're using. If it's sensitive to velocity, aftertouch, cutoff, etc. A whole new world to discover!
This reminds me of my percussion/sticking nuances learned over time, and from wise instructors. Sometimes it is more effective to play a series of say, snare drum notes with one hand(stick) rather than alternating hands. This is a debate for pieces like "Bolero." Some would insist you must alternate for continuity, but it may be discovered that each stick has its own resonance and "tang" which bleeds through the actual drum sound. So, for Bolero, some begin the famous ppp snare pattern with a single stick, then switch to alternating as the piece swells : )
The technique he demonstrates here confirms its a more percussive/kinetic, rather than synth sound, leading many to mistake it for a plucked muted guitar : )
I’d always assumed it was a plucked guitar until today. I think even Claudio uses plucked guitar in his thriller video a few years ago…
Consummate Synth scientists at work & play…
Michael J always said, “ Study the greats & become greater…”
Here with Anthony & all the rest, we have this opportunity…
if not to be greater, at least to study the greats …
Much love always Anthony & team…
😍🕊️😍
The MiniMoog has the most amazing envelope/filter combo. Especially the percussive tones you are getting for this patch. Very well explained and easy to recreate. Everyone should have one of these wonderful instruments to play and experiment with. Thanks Anthony for all the great educational content and taking the time to explain and be so kind! Cheers
I cannot agree more!
These videos make me squeal with delight! 😁
Am loving all these breakdowns of the sounds from one of the most iconic songs of the 80s. So cool to see how they were made and done
Oh you mean class is dismissed? Always awesome Anthony. Thanks for another cool look at MJ's sounds and the Minimoog!
Very instructional (and inspirational too) video, thanks!
In the past, you artists were simply magicians, and you remain so to this day! Thank you !
Amazing to see!
Not sure if it’s just me but this particular MiniMoog sounds unusually good.
Rosen Sound !
Thank you for all the truly amazing videos Anthony!
Can't wait! Great content
thanks for sharing your vast experience and skill so willingly. A rare and humble being you are
Hey Anthony! Your album stories totally vibe with me, man. Love hearing your perspective on it all. Big ups! Greetings from sunny La Serena city, Chile. Keep the good vibes rollin'!
the value you bring to the table, ASTONISHING. Very grateful for you Ant. 🙏🏾🙌🏾
Fantastic. What an excellent tutorial. This little pluck is in so many places.. love it!
So funky!!
I made an instrumental cover of Thriller a couple years back and after seeing these videos on recreating the sounds from Thriller are sooo helpful not to mention really interesting and insightful. Recreating these sounds using Arturia’s VSTs are not quite the same but it’s a lot of fun exploring these iconic sounds. Thanks Anthony, I love these types of videos they are expertly made down to the last detail and it’s just awesome to hear these iconic tracks deconstructed 😎
oh dude that's awesome! I definitely love how synt sounds!
I love these type of videos. I use moog every time, I need solo instrument or noise fx sound.
Love your videos, you're a great communicator. Thanks for sharing all this with us!
I've heard this song sooooo many times, but I keep learning new things bout it thanks to you 🤙
Thank you soooo much for taking the time to not only explain but demonstrate the various uses and impacts of the filters and frequencies. Demonstrating these functions and features on such well known tones makes learning and understanding so much more relatable and digestible. Thank you thank you thank you for the lessons and most of all your amazing sounds and music! Love this channel
Your explanation is so clear and I can apply the principles you teach about this one specific sound to pretty much anything.
Thanks for taking the time to do so. I hope your channel gets bigger and bigger.
Great Stuff as always
Thanks again!
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL . Who else better to talk about this than the man himself . Peace and love
The amount of instrumentation layers is amazing!! Thank you for breaking down each element, also how you create them 🙏🏿🙏🏿
Another great video. Love your content. You are an amazing sound designer!!!
whenever i hear this sounds on youtube i feel amazed. its like so different to the recording its great!
Love your videos and your synth knowledge. Thank you.
Great insights on the sound design, as well as Greg's interpretation of how to play it differently 👍
Another astounding video with incredible insights from the Marinelli School. Brilliant to be back in class ❤️🙏🏾☀️
Amazing videos , luv it 👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️🙏🌍
Fabulous. Well done. Thanks for sharing. ❤
Very cool.. great little things always have finesse too - all the possibilities condensed down to what it needs..
Thank you for all this amazing videos! It’s very inspiring have all this pro content for free on internet 🫶
Man, you've done it again. Hope you won't get offended when I say I've always listened to that part, but never heard it properly. It's been part of the glorious soup that is the Thriller sound, and here's the raw ingredient.
Also, this is just part of it. I'm intrigued where this comes in the big picture - does the synth line come first and need a sound? The track needs the sound and the synth line is written to fit? Were there parts that were discarded? Appreciate that it's likely more organic than that, but great parts were written, and great patches were created, and it all fits perfectly.
I'll wait for the Greg vid, and in the meantime, thank you.
Anthony and Greg weren't composing or arranging on this track. Rod had a fully arranged demo, just recorded more quickly on cheaper gear. Anthony made better sounds. Greg played it better. All of the ideas for parts are from Rod, though.
As to how Rod wrote it, haven't heard much about his writing process in this era. Just a couple of years earlier, though, he was writing all of the Heatwave demos with just a suitcase Rhodes. Think, by Thriller, he was making demos with a Linn and a Jupiter 4, but never had that confirmed. Is what his demos sound like to me, particularly the chorus used to thicken the parts.
@@SarcasticTruth77Thanks for this - I get the songs were written & arranged (and like you say scratch demos made), but from some of these Thriller videos there seems to be gaps left for creativity - would be interested to see before / after comparisons. Cheers
@@simonrussell4986 It's that way with some demos. Sometimes, a demo can be as lean as someone playing guitar or keys while singing. Not Rod's stuff, though. He's famous for writing it all. You can hear that with this song. Before Michael got the idea to turn it in to a monster movie thing as Thriller, Rod's song was called Starlight. The demo is here on TH-cam. Search for "Michael Jackson Starlight demo", or similar, and you'll find it. The version with Rod singing his vocals isn't here. It's Michael giving a scratch vocal a go. You will hear the complete original backing track Rod recorded, though. All of the little comps/overdubs are there. Rod was amazing.
Wowwwww..... for years i hear mute guitar....soo cool
I thought it was either a muted guitar or a clavinet.
ByI set a reminder for this and I didn't get it, booo TH-cam.
But I'm here anyway, and yeah Antony. ❤
I just wanted to add....... Darkness falls across the land, the midnight hour is close at hand
I ❤ your videos!! Thank you Anthony.
Sir, you are a gem
Man!! You are so good 😊
♥️♥️♥️🤩
Thanks for the insight my friend !
Keep em coming !
Many thanks! These videos are absolute gems.
The level of sound engineering ❤
So cool!!!😫
Thanks so much; love the Mini!
Awesome, where do we see the full recreation of thriller you mentioned?
Thank you
🥰🥰🥰🥰
Very cool! I always thought it sounded like a mute guitar. So funky.
Thank you maestro! Subscribed.
Dope channel!!!
Dope ! Thank you 🙏
Thank you it is a fun sound.
Oh, that Moog filter, I can't manage to come close to that on PRO 3. Will try again tomorrow.
Dope🔥🔥🔥
That part always used to creep me up when I was a kid especially during the zombie dance.
Groovy sound
man is wearing Arc'teryx, y'all... make no mistake, that is a perfect sartorial expression of the quality and prowess of his synth sound design technique.
💛💛💛
Hi Anthony. I really love your channel. It would be amazing if you could share some insight into the signal flow used for the recording of the Thriller album. How the synths were processed and tracked to tape. Thanks so much!
I keep thinking I should sell my behringer model d but then these things remind me I haven't exhausted the three sounds I usually get from it
Hi Anthony, I have always loved this sound. Like others, I assumed it was a JP8. Did you, do you have model D patch dial sheets that you documented these patch sounds with? If so please post them up for us fellow 70s and early 80s synthologists.
amazing~
Tons of shuffle there, as my TR 909
Remember this section ..ljked this section..amazing.😊😊😊academics not always needed
Whoooooo the intro
And all that details just for one sound patch… it’s no wonder in terms of sonic design, arguably, Thriller remains among the top of everything in recorded history …
Making music is science
I appreciate all your efforts in doing these interesting videos. Thanks for that. But, if I may offer a little constructive criticism, perhaps you should watch the audio level of your Lavalier mic, because your voice is so hot in the mix that it's slightly distorting.
@anthonymarinellimusic I wanted to take a moment to thank you for your videos, I've realized over the past couple days just how much nonsense (and synth-splaning) you must listen to on a daily basis. Peace, love and transistors!
Nico
I love plucks. Fact! 😂
Swwwettt
Thank you
What video with Greg are you referring to, please? 🙏🙏🙏 1:08
It’s comming out very soon
I double clicked the Like button Anthony but unfortunately the second click nullified the first one. I'll work out how to correct this...
So, Anthony, I'm just wondering. Did you do Amy work on MJs Earth song. That's one of favorite productions, Ever 😊
And as usual another great synth lesson.
I always thought it was a.muted 🎸 guitar sound , cooool
Nice. Did you do anything on MJ's Captain EO ?
I always play keys like that!! That’s the only way I know!!
Omggg for years I thought that part was an Electric guitar 😂😂
Moogrimba, one might say..
I would have guessed that since there's no aftertouch or velocity in the patch that you could use "normal" keyboard fingering and get the same sound, but obviously it isn't and my mind is blown yet again. :-)
Boney M. - Ma Baker 👈 When I saw that video for the first time over the summer, I didn't think that plucky sound was actually being played by the keyboard player shown, given the deceptive nature of the whole Boney M. thing. Turns out it's possible because this sound is very close. Being new to analog synthesis, I didn't think you could get that sound on an analog synth.
Have you been approached by the Masterclass people? Herbie Hancock has one, but I think it would be great to have a class on classic analog synth programming.
Did you know you would be part of one of the greatest albums ever made? If so, at what point of production or which track made your heart sing? Thank you for your channel!
Besides that strat picking and this marimba, there is some third rhythmic arrangement part that also sounds similar to a dulled xylophone, but that part is not disclosed for some reason. Anthony, can you dislose that third part that quietly makes all the juice in this rhythmic groove, not just the obvious ones? Or those are the bongos that make that effect and there is no other rhythmic part?
Where can I find the Thriller recreation video?
Same, did you find it?
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