I'm genuinely confused, are kpop fans not aware of I need U, FIRE, FAKE LOVE, DNA, Blood Sweat & Tears, DOPE etc cus why do they always say BTS got their success thanks to their 3 English songs?? And they explained time and time again why they decided to release the English singles trilogy in the first place but people won't listen. We were in a fucking pandemic, people were dying and were depressed. They got an opportunity to do light music that conveys positivity, they took it and decided to let it in English to touch as many people as possible. It's as simple as that
average kpop stans yk...they know it all they're not kids they just don't wanna admit their genuine success they always ignore the positive side when it comes to BTS and no matter what BTS do they can never be satisfied because they're BTS and not kpop everything is ok until BTS does it BTS get the hate 'cause they're BTS nothing else bruh...not all the kpop stans but yea most of them
Kpop fans just resent that their faves didn't and still have not become internationally recognized celebrities like BTS did. Armies have been growing in numbers for years and finally the general public acknowledged BTS and their discography
Bts has many hit songs in Korean too 💀 like idol, fake love, life goes on , boy with love, like crazy .. and its not that bts don't make good Korean songs like on , black swan , thier recent solo release like snooze by agust d , jack in box, indigo
Current SKZ is very much "hype" music. That's a nicer way of saying it 😅 it's loud and gives fans that feeling of energy. Definitely not for everyone or for all moods haha. But if anyone newer to Skz who only listened to their most recent title tracks and didn't like them. I highly recommend you listen to: -I Am You -Get Cool -Spread My Wings -Glow -Levanter -Mixtape #3 -Grow Up All still have SKZ signature hype, but are more engaging and full of emotion.
I totally agree you have to be in the SKZ mood to listen to their music I'm a Stay and they have great songs but most of them are very hyper and you can't always be in that state of mind
@@DaenerysUchiha agreed. I have been a stay since Hellevator so I totally get where people are coming from haha. But that's the problem of being a multi-stan lol.
as a stay for a rlly long time, i do skip the most louder ones (like freeze or maybe even jam even though i haven’t listened to it fully yet) since that’s not what i listen to, but skz does stand out and they are creative in what they do (in my eyes) so i tend to listen more to the calmer b-sides especially and then the title tracks, good thing that you were understanding about this lol update: jk i like jjam but i still don’t like freeze 😭
I love kiof but their fandom is just so... like every since Born to Be xx era and when the Nobody Knows dance came out, so MANY ppl have been saying "this is what happens when you debut GROWN women" one of the members is born in 2005 and another is born in 2004. Haneul (MY BIAS BTW I LOVE HER) had just turned 18 right before their debut. The oldest, Julie is born in 2000, they are all quite young. They're not grown yet, just over 18 😭
I wonder when they will let my Ahyeon breathe, shit is getting out of hand, first it was Woonyoung, now it's Ahyeon, just because they stand out more in their group, it doesn't mean that they are "pick me", also because as the girl in the video said, these people don't even know what a "pick me" is. Like bruh, this girl just got back from hiatus not long ago, let her live her life and enjoy what she does best.
Ikrr. I kinda agreed with some of the *criticism* as Forever is an elegant type song and her dance style should match that. She's improved tho in her recent performances and is really versatile now. I think she was even told by yg to match the song more as well. But calling her a pickme and/or hating her is unacceptable.
@@Marcondirondirondello Ahyeon hate is not really big to compare it with Wonyoung. Some people criticized her which was valid and she did better afterwards. Her haters and fans are making too much noise in between which it sounds much but in reality it isn't.
@@tarmin. If you say this you must be not watching any of her fancams on IG, it's full of hating towards her, not actual criticism. No one is making things "bigger" than they actually are, they call her a "pick me" without even knowing what a pick me is. And yeah I know Wonyoung gets hate for whatever she does, but it's not a competition on "Who Is hated more", they both receive hate for stupid reasons. Because if anybody else sticks out while dancing in comparison to the other members, they praise them, but with Ahyeon, everyone has become a freaking dance teacher, while they don't even know how to dance on beat.
about the yunjin opinion i definitely agree. she was about to "change" the industry and then she goes drinking starbucks 😭 also the skz one, i feel like everyone has different music taste so it's totally fine if you don't like their music. their music is not for everyone and yeah i get it
Bts's hit songs are NOT only in english, actually most of their hit songs are korean like Blood sweat and tears/Fire/Dna/ mic drop/ idol which is what introduced 3rd gen kpop to the western media back in 2016/2017/2018
bgs being more versatile than ggs isnt really the case imo, i think its bc of the standards the industry has for bgs. i think i remember seeing backlash for txt for their deja vu concept photos bc of their more feminine styling. id say this is a pretty good example of the industry and the general public holding bgs to a certain standard. while ggs can achieve almost any concept w/o too much backlash. basically my thoughts are, itzy could definitely do gods menu, but could skz do sneakers?
My opinion is that many fans became aware of Kpop because of anime, me included as well as my friends. Anime has been popular worldwide since the 2000s and anime cosplayers danced to Kpop songs. That's how I got into it, I don't even remember the song that got me into exploring the industry as a whole.
When kpop Stan’s call xyz music annoying, it’s okay if you heard one song and you’re like oh no this isn’t for me but to continue to say they’re so annoying after every release. Shouldn’t that first annoying song drive away your attention altogether? Why do they continue to listen lmao it boggles my mind. obviously, it’s not for you. It’s for the people that get it.
“pick me this pick me that” there hasn’t been a single female idol who has been called a this term who has been misogynistic to other women for male attention. everyone who calls these girls pick mes are misogynistic themselves.
6:29 Honestly I have to disagree SKZ title tracks are very much hype music but they also have melodic parts to the songs and catchy chorus in mostly all their titles tracks and they have a huge discography so if you listen to other bsides or singles/EPs the have full song ballads and more harmonious songs so to say all SKZ songs are loud and annoying is simple wrong and also id like to hear your opinion if SKZ (or Gidle imo) aren’t 4th gen leaders then who are cause just a few days ago SKZ are out breaking Guinness world records held by one direction?
I’m just gonna say it there’s no group that paved away for everyone, you cannot single-handedly pave the way in music that’s not how it works. saying that one group paved the way for everyone while completely disregarding the efforts of previous groups before them is not only disrespectful but straight up foolish
Kpop groups paved their own way is really stupid idea! Compare groups from big companies and survival shows that are famous since debut or even have fan base before debut with groups that have non of these privileges yet manage to compete with these groups and make a name! Yah, all groups pave their own way, but some has bulldozers and start paving the way before even entering the pass and some use shovels.
right! i also feel like groups that hail from an already well known company are fed by a silver spoon so they’re not really paving their own way at the end of it. their company gives them a head start.
opinion 1 : bts have hits that are not english opinion 2 : agree 5th gen just started a year ago opinion 3 : kinda agree opinion 4 : no comment opinion 5 : when bp was with yg it was like they were instagram models that sing sometimes but the so of the members are really into releasing music so that statement is not true currently opinion 6 : kiof is not GROWN women people paint them to be. i know they debuted as adults but their maknae had just freshly turned 18 at the time of debut. they are infact bringing back the 2nd gen/3 gen vibe and that's why people are loving them. not to mention they are talented i personally love their music it's not the BEST ever created but it is really enjoyable(iam a predebut kissy) opinion 7 : nope they don't opinion 8 : i don't think so opinion 9 : kpop is not the worst industry opinion 10 : nope they are not. idols deserve backlash for drinking starbucks opinion 11 : baby monster talented but not INSANELY talented like their fans claim but in their generation(5th gen) the talent bar is really low. opinion 12 : wtf she is not a pick me opinion 13 : i personally don't agree opinion 14 : fan vote awards will always be won by popular groups with big fandoms there is nothing we could do about that and it's a fact that ARMYs are the biggest kpop fandom so of course they'll work their butt. opinion 15 : agree idols should really be careful while speaking when cameras are on nowadays people can't take a joke and it really shows. the idols might be joking but the fans or netizens could think the opposite opinion 16 : REAL nmixx is so freaking talented they deserve more opinion 17 : some typa music is not for everyone if you don't like noisy music then don't listen to it. i casually listens to stray kids and imo they're music quality is decreasing but all they're music is so addictive that it grows in your mind opinion 18 : i never get why people unstan a group because of their fandom like are you stanning the fandom or the group??? i get it if you don't enjoy their music but unstanning because of fandom is crazy! ARMYs are a BIG fandom we are so diverse! i agree there are teenagers who listen to bts(which is not a drag) so ARMYs can be toxic(just like any other fandom; every fandom has toxic stans) streaming and stuff are mainly done by the teenagers but buying bts stuffs(albums merch concert tickets luxury brand items) are mostly by the adults who are independent!!! not everything is a single story everything has different perspective!!! ps : i'm so sorry for yapping too much lol!!! enjoyed this video!!
"straykids make noisy music" correction, title tracks. I won't lie, ofc they make hype and loud music, but I think it's their concept. title tracks are supposed to bring energy and be hype. try hearing other songs on an album before you make that opinion tbh.
i also think kpop has played into this it boy/girl thing too far, literally hardly anyone points out when an idol is actually talented in something. even wooyoung commented that its the sexiness that brings people to ateez shows and i said i wish it was their actual legit talent that brought people to their shows. so much nowadays in kpop is vein, obnoxious or concieted as fuck bc theres so few genuinely talented groups. if idols go viral its usually for something they did wrong or how they looked. thats it.
People hate Ahyeon for no reason and it becomes very boring you create your own concepts for the hated but it's worthless we her fans will always support her and will make the internals mediocre and toxic
how can anyone even say bts's hit songs are in engloish as if they didnt make it big with their korean songs and only then released a few english songs lmaooooo
Straykids are the kpop leaders now. Nobody i mean nobody is doing better than them. They are outselling and outcharting bp and bts. They are making moves. But please keep hating. Its what fuels us to work harder❤
@@karinasrealuv please keep hating them. It will make them more famous . Famous idols are supposed to be hated unlike nugu group aespa. So pls keep hating
I am a stay, but don't say things like this, you'll only make them see skz and stays as annoying and cocky. yes, I do think they are 4th gen leaders, but don't keep saying it as if there aren't other GREAT groups who make amazing music and break records too.
Yk with #2 I think the reason people make those title so early cause of experience with 4th Gen. 4th Gen lasted 4 years and boom gone move on to 5th with 5th Gen the titles are coming quickly because this generation will go just as fast
personally, the starbucks thing wasn’t “overreacting”, but I think it’s okay to drink starbucks publicly, or privately. here’s why: I know the whole starbucks thing had something to do with isreal or being and isreali company/product(s), and considering what’s in happened in the war with palestine, people wouldn’t want to support anything that has to do with isreal, it’s people, products and so on. most people believe palestine is the victim of the war, and support them, and bash anything that is isreali, (I don’t have a standpoint on this political issue), but even if someone does support isreal, it’s totally fine. that sounds crazy, but it’s fine (in my opinion) because people are aloud to have opinions that differ from the majority, and others should respect and accept that. (though I don’t much about the war, so this opinion comes from limited knowledge about that). and even if Yunjin, or any other idol didn’t support isreal, they can easily not care, or not have a standpoint on the issue, and just want to drink their caramel crunch frapp in peace😭. sorry this comment was so long, but that’s just what I think on the matter!
Eh. Idk dude, I would suggest you do some research and maybe educate yourself on the Israel and Palestine War and the history of the conflict of those two countries. You even just said yourself that you’re not fully equipped on the matter. I myself didn’t even know until my bf at the time (now ex) and two of my friends educated me. So I can understand why people are upset for seeing their favorite idol drink or eat a product from a restaurant or place that supports what Israel does. No disrespect or anything of course 😗👍🏽 but you’re right, whatever people choose to let slide or support or whatever is their choice.
kpop fans whine when idols overperform then cry about certain idols being lazy people just dont like it when someone has more success than someone else its fact atp. a lot of the hate trains but I do still expect good singers more than dancers tbh cause what else am I following these groups for? I dint mind if they have one or two members who outdo other members it just means everyones got different stanima. u cant expect all members to be on par with everyone else in the group then itd be so boring to watch. plus its a good way for someone to gain further popularity. more to the point i think its why they shouldnt consider just throwing these idols into the deep end. literal minors debut in such rush they barely are given time to amend what needs to be amended yet i also dont like too much perfection, id rather members be different some be 100% on stage others maybe less so. it adds flavor to a group. the internet in general the kpop side of it seems to like to find the negativea in everything idols do. its such a shame nd makes it seem like we either have to always be deluded orrrrr never critique them (whilst using a thing called manners) yet i do still think some idols may have a slightly inflated ego because we dont know them as people. and the audience is mainly overreacting to the idol image not who the idol is as a person.
Sis you Indian???!!!! Oy my Godd!! Good to see a Indian kpop stan doing some content like this!! Cuz i have not seen one. Will support you for your future😉❤
My opinion is that armys need to accept that BTS has more fangirls who are teenagers and have an crush on them ( lm not saying anything but l meet some armys who were saying most of the fandom is 30+ womens) first of all its impossible cuz 30 + womans are mature and have better things to do then streaming Bts songs and listening to them 24/ 7 and l dont belive that this womens were hating IU and Jennie! I have seen armys who have accept that they have crush on them , but as much as l have seen l can't say that they are the most of the fandom but it actually it is!( lm not hating but armys have to accept that)
As a 30 year old woman myself, I will have to disagree. Lol. We just genuinely like the guys and their music and are willing to do whatever is necessary to ensure they succeed. Teenagers can't sell out the luxury items they endorse like Palisade vehicles and designer goods. Because the Fandom is so large, there will be bad actors among us, but we actively shame them for their unhealthy behaviors. Army does so much more than just the haters online but it makes no sense to speak on these things because you the ktuber can't see it.
@@ChelseaSen yes but even k - netizens know that the fandom is most teenage girls cuz kpop is most of them and the massive hate female idols get wasent from 30 + womans
just army has the biggest number of fans so even if a tenth of it is toxic it is still many while 90% are tame/normal ...so its stupid to unstan an group based on its fans
@@jimin585 yea even we blinks are pretty toxic and l agree to stop staning a group for its fans is stupid but l don't stan anymore Bts cuz l don't like their music but l will keep supporting them😄
1. The person who said all of BTS’s hit songs are in English most definitely is a BTS hater, especially since you mentioned they wrote in 3 (mostly negative) opinions about them. Because that’s not even true 😂 BTS have A MILLION AND ONE hit songs and only THREE of them were in English. I didn’t find out about BTS until Sept. 2016, which was right before they released Wings a month later. Their title track which blew the fvck up was Blood Sweat and Tears which is nowhere an English song😂 2. I swear every time I turn around people always say Stray Kids make “noise” music. Yall only say that shit because yall don’t see past their title tracks which of course will be hyper because THATS THE SONG TO INTRODUCE A CONCEPT/ALBUM! I don’t consider myself a Stay but I lovvveee me some Stray Kids. I literally have two of their albums physically (Oddinary and Maxident). Their music is the BOMB in my opinion so to say their music is only “noise” is crazy. A song of theirs called 19 is a perfect example.
this is the comment I was searching for! ofc they think skz music is noisy bc it's the damn title track, like wtf, it's supposed to be hype and bring energy-. they never hear the full albums or b-sides and automatically assume skz music is too noisy. they never hear secret secret, Sorry, i Love you, or skz replays, but oh well😭😭
I disagree with the “every group lagged their own way” no hate to any of the groups I’ll be mentioning but blackpink paved the way for baby monster and 2ne1 payved the way for blackpink. If it weren’t of 2ne1 I doubt bp would be as popular as they are today same goes for babymonster but instead of 2ne1 it’s bp
ALL is crazy, literally even before 2020 (when they released their FIRST English song), they were already Korea’s pride. They already were ambassadors of the UN, they already went to the Grammys, they already internationally and nationally very well known. Why do some fans act like bts weren’t relevant before Dynamite? So you’re telling me that you’ve never heard of I Need you, Fake love, Idol, Boy with Luv, etc…that just 4 of their successful songs and that’s already more than their English songs 🤦🏾♀️
Boy groups do NOT have more versatility that’s such a joke Like Loona was able to cover fire by BTS and Cherry Bomb by NCT, but i wanna see either of those groups pull off sweet crazy love or hi high or love4eva (and i mean seriously pull it off, not in the cringy joking way boy groups always do) So yeah no, boy groups only have like 3 flavors of concept whereas girl groups can do soooooo much more
Honestly I have to disagree SKZ title tracks are very much hype music but they also have melodic parts to the songs and catchy chorus in mostly all their titles tracks and they have a huge discography so if you listen to other bsides or singles/EPs the have full song ballads and more harmonious songs so to say all SKZ songs are loud and annoying is simple wrong and also id like to hear your opinion if SKZ (or Gidle imo) aren’t 4th gen leaders then who are cause just a few days ago SKZ are out breaking Guinness world records held by one direction?
yeah bc all you listen to are title tracks, WHICH ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ENERGETIC AND HYPE?? No one ever listens to b-sides or full album and assumes all their music is "noisy". why don't you try secret secret? skz replays? another day, leave, cover me, waiting for us?? you can't judge them from the outside of the fandom if you don't listen to their musci.
@@Hervnah girl bye ur assuming i only listen to title tracks girl i dont 🌚. i’ve heard their b sides and they’re not for me and that’s why i stopped listening it
Pick me can’t be the way to describe ahyeon. She doesn’t make BM look bad yes there were times when she “over performed” but that doesn’t mean she purposely has the goal to put down the other members
BTS were extremely popular before those 3 abominations, I think those songs did more damage than good though in front of non-Kpop fans because it showed them that BTS shouldn't be taken seriously. They had some cringe before that but not that level of basic. If BTS want to be taken seriously by non-Kpop fans they should be doing more cyphers or more like I need U
6:50 I agree 1000% and even tho I’m a blink I’ll explain why. I tried giving them a chance last year but now aftee seeing people compare Jennie’s scandal(vape on) to sugas scandal(dui one) I’m convinced something is up, u people genuinely think releasing a puff of smoke in someone’s face is worse than possibly hitting people down on a scooter. You get hit by a scooter that’s it, breathing a single puff of smoke that’s in ur face is bad yes but u work die. Then I encountered an army who disagreed with my opinion on suga’s scandal. That army searched for my other comments on that vid, hated on me went as far as to go to my own recent community post( I deleted the comment) and say how disgusting I was.
Man I'm such an Army simp, whenever people say they unstanned BTS bc of Armys I always wonder what they did to piss Army off lol. Seriously though, seems a huge shame to stop liking a great group just because you got triggered by some mean fans. 😏
Probably didnt even do anything. Just the way they treat other groups and their reactions to things that has nothing to do with them. And the creepy simps...
Tbh I’m a stay, but I totally agree with the skz opinions……….before they released their new album, I was thinking of unstanning them bc I didn’t like their songs (except Maniac and LaLaLaLa) also, I feel like u need to do more than break one record to be considered a ‘leader’. IMO, they haven’t paved the way for any other groups, their music is okay at best, etc. sure, they’re very talented, but they need to use that talent more in order to be considered ‘leaders’. Also, as an ace stay it makes me so uncomfortable when they make dirty jokes bc I find that disgusting.
@@avenfulll u can be a stay without worshipping skz and acting like everything they do is an act of god and anyone who has criticism for them is the literal devil. But go on and pray to ur shrine if that’s what you want to do
well as an army it hurt my feelings (more like angered and no most kpopies think army is the worst fandom ) to watch this video and no im not some 8-year old army.. yall dont know what blinks have done but its fine, im not gonna write a huge paragraph cuz ive got way better things to do with my life.. this video just proves how much kpopies hate bts
@@jasonmendoza1175 wow! now yall are pretending to not hate bts.. where do u think the haters come from? from the moon.. wow u kpopies r actually crazy.. bts is one of the if not the most hated music artists worldwide.. and also if the creator is allowed to say their opinion, i can as well..
@jasonmendoza1175 I am so excited only 10 months its feels like tomorrow j hope only 2 months he will be here to when you have same one like bts you never cry ok 8 year old army forever 💜
I'm genuinely confused, are kpop fans not aware of I need U, FIRE, FAKE LOVE, DNA, Blood Sweat & Tears, DOPE etc cus why do they always say BTS got their success thanks to their 3 English songs?? And they explained time and time again why they decided to release the English singles trilogy in the first place but people won't listen. We were in a fucking pandemic, people were dying and were depressed. They got an opportunity to do light music that conveys positivity, they took it and decided to let it in English to touch as many people as possible. It's as simple as that
average kpop stans yk...they know it all they're not kids they just don't wanna admit their genuine success they always ignore the positive side when it comes to BTS and no matter what BTS do they can never be satisfied because they're BTS and not kpop everything is ok until BTS does it BTS get the hate 'cause they're BTS nothing else bruh...not all the kpop stans but yea most of them
Kpop fans just resent that their faves didn't and still have not become internationally recognized celebrities like BTS did. Armies have been growing in numbers for years and finally the general public acknowledged BTS and their discography
Bts has many hit songs in Korean too 💀 like idol, fake love, life goes on , boy with love, like crazy .. and its not that bts don't make good Korean songs like on , black swan , thier recent solo release like snooze by agust d , jack in box, indigo
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@@lorrainedaloba7292 yes I don't know how I missed that
Current SKZ is very much "hype" music. That's a nicer way of saying it 😅 it's loud and gives fans that feeling of energy. Definitely not for everyone or for all moods haha. But if anyone newer to Skz who only listened to their most recent title tracks and didn't like them. I highly recommend you listen to:
-I Am You
-Get Cool
-Spread My Wings
-Glow
-Levanter
-Mixtape #3
-Grow Up
All still have SKZ signature hype, but are more engaging and full of emotion.
I totally agree you have to be in the SKZ mood to listen to their music I'm a Stay and they have great songs but most of them are very hyper and you can't always be in that state of mind
@@DaenerysUchiha agreed. I have been a stay since Hellevator so I totally get where people are coming from haha. But that's the problem of being a multi-stan lol.
as a stay for a rlly long time, i do skip the most louder ones (like freeze or maybe even jam even though i haven’t listened to it fully yet) since that’s not what i listen to, but skz does stand out and they are creative in what they do (in my eyes) so i tend to listen more to the calmer b-sides especially and then the title tracks, good thing that you were understanding about this lol
update: jk i like jjam but i still don’t like freeze 😭
yeah, I agree as a stay
I love kiof but their fandom is just so... like every since Born to Be xx era and when the Nobody Knows dance came out, so MANY ppl have been saying "this is what happens when you debut GROWN women" one of the members is born in 2005 and another is born in 2004. Haneul (MY BIAS BTW I LOVE HER) had just turned 18 right before their debut. The oldest, Julie is born in 2000, they are all quite young. They're not grown yet, just over 18 😭
COMPLETELY AGREED 😭😭
I wonder when they will let my Ahyeon breathe, shit is getting out of hand, first it was Woonyoung, now it's Ahyeon, just because they stand out more in their group, it doesn't mean that they are "pick me", also because as the girl in the video said, these people don't even know what a "pick me" is.
Like bruh, this girl just got back from hiatus not long ago, let her live her life and enjoy what she does best.
Ikrr. I kinda agreed with some of the *criticism* as Forever is an elegant type song and her dance style should match that. She's improved tho in her recent performances and is really versatile now. I think she was even told by yg to match the song more as well. But calling her a pickme and/or hating her is unacceptable.
@@Marcondirondirondello Ahyeon hate is not really big to compare it with Wonyoung. Some people criticized her which was valid and she did better afterwards. Her haters and fans are making too much noise in between which it sounds much but in reality it isn't.
@@tarmin. If you say this you must be not watching any of her fancams on IG, it's full of hating towards her, not actual criticism. No one is making things "bigger" than they actually are, they call her a "pick me" without even knowing what a pick me is.
And yeah I know Wonyoung gets hate for whatever she does, but it's not a competition on "Who Is hated more", they both receive hate for stupid reasons.
Because if anybody else sticks out while dancing in comparison to the other members, they praise them, but with Ahyeon, everyone has become a freaking dance teacher, while they don't even know how to dance on beat.
about the yunjin opinion i definitely agree. she was about to "change" the industry and then she goes drinking starbucks 😭 also the skz one, i feel like everyone has different music taste so it's totally fine if you don't like their music. their music is not for everyone and yeah i get it
"Bts m0sT popular songs are in eNgLish" Meanwhile spring day out here blocking artist from getting no. 1 every other monday
Bts's hit songs are NOT only in english, actually most of their hit songs are korean like Blood sweat and tears/Fire/Dna/ mic drop/ idol which is what introduced 3rd gen kpop to the western media back in 2016/2017/2018
bgs being more versatile than ggs isnt really the case imo, i think its bc of the standards the industry has for bgs. i think i remember seeing backlash for txt for their deja vu concept photos bc of their more feminine styling. id say this is a pretty good example of the industry and the general public holding bgs to a certain standard. while ggs can achieve almost any concept w/o too much backlash. basically my thoughts are, itzy could definitely do gods menu, but could skz do sneakers?
Exactly
My opinion is that many fans became aware of Kpop because of anime, me included as well as my friends. Anime has been popular worldwide since the 2000s and anime cosplayers danced to Kpop songs. That's how I got into it, I don't even remember the song that got me into exploring the industry as a whole.
wow thats an unpopular opinion
i agreed with the skz opinion but suprisingly their recent album was a solid 8/10 for me
OMGGG MY OPINION MADE ITTT, thank you so much for your commentary on it (i was the cha eunwoo and yunjin one)
When kpop Stan’s call xyz music annoying, it’s okay if you heard one song and you’re like oh no this isn’t for me but to continue to say they’re so annoying after every release. Shouldn’t that first annoying song drive away your attention altogether? Why do they continue to listen lmao it boggles my mind. obviously, it’s not for you. It’s for the people that get it.
“pick me this pick me that” there hasn’t been a single female idol who has been called a this term who has been misogynistic to other women for male attention. everyone who calls these girls pick mes are misogynistic themselves.
@@kunpunko you said it best.
Honeslty skz’s new album is a good improvement……
The funniest thing to me about the starbucks "controversy" is that it tastes bad, people just get some real coffee and nobody will be mad about it...
@@ilovecats0406 right like why would u risk getting cancelled over a coffee that tastes like milk flavored water 😭
6:29 Honestly I have to disagree SKZ title tracks are very much hype music but they also have melodic parts to the songs and catchy chorus in mostly all their titles tracks and they have a huge discography so if you listen to other bsides or singles/EPs the have full song ballads and more harmonious songs so to say all SKZ songs are loud and annoying is simple wrong and also id like to hear your opinion if SKZ (or Gidle imo) aren’t 4th gen leaders then who are cause just a few days ago SKZ are out breaking Guinness world records held by one direction?
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I’m just gonna say it there’s no group that paved away for everyone, you cannot single-handedly pave the way in music that’s not how it works. saying that one group paved the way for everyone while completely disregarding the efforts of previous groups before them is not only disrespectful but straight up foolish
Kpop groups paved their own way is really stupid idea! Compare groups from big companies and survival shows that are famous since debut or even have fan base before debut with groups that have non of these privileges yet manage to compete with these groups and make a name! Yah, all groups pave their own way, but some has bulldozers and start paving the way before even entering the pass and some use shovels.
right! i also feel like groups that hail from an already well known company are fed by a silver spoon so they’re not really paving their own way at the end of it. their company gives them a head start.
3:14 i agree in a way,since that could apply to some group such as blackpink,bts,twice,wonder girls and more
opinion 1 : bts have hits that are not english
opinion 2 : agree 5th gen just started a year ago
opinion 3 : kinda agree
opinion 4 : no comment
opinion 5 : when bp was with yg it was like they were instagram models that sing sometimes but the so of the members are really into releasing music so that statement is not true currently
opinion 6 : kiof is not GROWN women people paint them to be. i know they debuted as adults but their maknae had just freshly turned 18 at the time of debut. they are infact bringing back the 2nd gen/3 gen vibe and that's why people are loving them. not to mention they are talented i personally love their music it's not the BEST ever created but it is really enjoyable(iam a predebut kissy)
opinion 7 : nope they don't
opinion 8 : i don't think so
opinion 9 : kpop is not the worst industry
opinion 10 : nope they are not. idols deserve backlash for drinking starbucks
opinion 11 : baby monster talented but not INSANELY talented like their fans claim but in their generation(5th gen) the talent bar is really low.
opinion 12 : wtf she is not a pick me
opinion 13 : i personally don't agree
opinion 14 : fan vote awards will always be won by popular groups with big fandoms there is nothing we could do about that and it's a fact that ARMYs are the biggest kpop fandom so of course they'll work their butt.
opinion 15 : agree idols should really be careful while speaking when cameras are on nowadays people can't take a joke and it really shows. the idols might be joking but the fans or netizens could think the opposite
opinion 16 : REAL nmixx is so freaking talented they deserve more
opinion 17 : some typa music is not for everyone if you don't like noisy music then don't listen to it. i casually listens to stray kids and imo they're music quality is decreasing but all they're music is so addictive that it grows in your mind
opinion 18 : i never get why people unstan a group because of their fandom like are you stanning the fandom or the group??? i get it if you don't enjoy their music but unstanning because of fandom is crazy! ARMYs are a BIG fandom we are so diverse! i agree there are teenagers who listen to bts(which is not a drag) so ARMYs can be toxic(just like any other fandom; every fandom has toxic stans) streaming and stuff are mainly done by the teenagers but buying bts stuffs(albums merch concert tickets luxury brand items) are mostly by the adults who are independent!!! not everything is a single story everything has different perspective!!!
ps : i'm so sorry for yapping too much lol!!! enjoyed this video!!
@@jungkookslipmole thank you so much! i love that u took out so much time to comment. thank you for watching 💗
"straykids make noisy music" correction, title tracks. I won't lie, ofc they make hype and loud music, but I think it's their concept. title tracks are supposed to bring energy and be hype. try hearing other songs on an album before you make that opinion tbh.
i also think kpop has played into this it boy/girl thing too far, literally hardly anyone points out when an idol is actually talented in something. even wooyoung commented that its the sexiness that brings people to ateez shows and i said i wish it was their actual legit talent that brought people to their shows. so much nowadays in kpop is vein, obnoxious or concieted as fuck bc theres so few genuinely talented groups. if idols go viral its usually for something they did wrong or how they looked. thats it.
Girl groups are definitely have more versatility than boy groups, Most of time, boy groups do the same concept all the time
I made a comment on your previous video about Stray Kids' music. Their latest release is definitely an improvement since their last 2 albums.
People hate Ahyeon for no reason and it becomes very boring you create your own concepts for the hated but it's worthless we her fans will always support her and will make the internals mediocre and toxic
how can anyone even say bts's hit songs are in engloish as if they didnt make it big with their korean songs and only then released a few english songs lmaooooo
Straykids are the kpop leaders now. Nobody i mean nobody is doing better than them. They are outselling and outcharting bp and bts. They are making moves. But please keep hating. Its what fuels us to work harder❤
@@lisalane69 y’all are so corny go outside for a bit
@@karinasrealuv please keep hating them. It will make them more famous . Famous idols are supposed to be hated unlike nugu group aespa. So pls keep hating
@@lisalane69girl stop it IS corny to say that…………
I am a stay, but don't say things like this, you'll only make them see skz and stays as annoying and cocky. yes, I do think they are 4th gen leaders, but don't keep saying it as if there aren't other GREAT groups who make amazing music and break records too.
@@Hervnah I agree it just gives haters more power
Make part 3 if it's possible as well i love your opinion videos sm❤
@@YoYo-wv9ob AAHH thats so sweet :( ill try my best
Yk with #2 I think the reason people make those title so early cause of experience with 4th Gen. 4th Gen lasted 4 years and boom gone move on to 5th with 5th Gen the titles are coming quickly because this generation will go just as fast
personally, the starbucks thing wasn’t “overreacting”, but I think it’s okay to drink starbucks publicly, or privately. here’s why: I know the whole starbucks thing had something to do with isreal or being and isreali company/product(s), and considering what’s in happened in the war with palestine, people wouldn’t want to support anything that has to do with isreal, it’s people, products and so on. most people believe palestine is the victim of the war, and support them, and bash anything that is isreali, (I don’t have a standpoint on this political issue), but even if someone does support isreal, it’s totally fine. that sounds crazy, but it’s fine (in my opinion) because people are aloud to have opinions that differ from the majority, and others should respect and accept that. (though I don’t much about the war, so this opinion comes from limited knowledge about that). and even if Yunjin, or any other idol didn’t support isreal, they can easily not care, or not have a standpoint on the issue, and just want to drink their caramel crunch frapp in peace😭. sorry this comment was so long, but that’s just what I think on the matter!
this is so real
I hope the boycotters have the same energy for Rose of Blackpink that is endorsing PUMA 😂
@@ChelseaSen Yess!
Eh. Idk dude, I would suggest you do some research and maybe educate yourself on the Israel and Palestine War and the history of the conflict of those two countries. You even just said yourself that you’re not fully equipped on the matter. I myself didn’t even know until my bf at the time (now ex) and two of my friends educated me. So I can understand why people are upset for seeing their favorite idol drink or eat a product from a restaurant or place that supports what Israel does. No disrespect or anything of course 😗👍🏽 but you’re right, whatever people choose to let slide or support or whatever is their choice.
ahh my opinion made it in, i think your view on it is completely valid! And i definitely see why people wouldn't agree with me
kpop fans whine when idols overperform
then cry about certain idols being lazy
people just dont like it when someone has more success than someone else its fact atp. a lot of the hate trains
but I do still expect good singers more than dancers tbh cause what else am I following these groups for? I dint mind if they have one or two members who outdo other members it just means everyones got different stanima. u cant expect all members to be on par with everyone else in the group then itd be so boring to watch. plus its a good way for someone to gain further popularity. more to the point i think its why they shouldnt consider just throwing these idols into the deep end. literal minors debut in such rush they barely are given time to amend what needs to be amended yet i also dont like too much perfection, id rather members be different some be 100% on stage others maybe less so. it adds flavor to a group. the internet in general the kpop side of it seems to like to find the negativea in everything idols do. its such a shame nd makes it seem like we either have to always be deluded orrrrr never critique them (whilst using a thing called manners) yet i do still think some idols may have a slightly inflated ego because we dont know them as people. and the audience is mainly overreacting to the idol image not who the idol is as a person.
Sis you Indian???!!!! Oy my Godd!! Good to see a Indian kpop stan doing some content like this!! Cuz i have not seen one. Will support you for your future😉❤
@@moarmiengene8746 yes i am! and thank you so much for ur support 💗
My opinion is that armys need to accept that BTS has more fangirls who are teenagers and have an crush on them ( lm not saying anything but l meet some armys who were saying most of the fandom is 30+ womens) first of all its impossible cuz 30 + womans are mature and have better things to do then streaming Bts songs and listening to them 24/ 7 and l dont belive that this womens were hating IU and Jennie! I have seen armys who have accept that they have crush on them , but as much as l have seen l can't say that they are the most of the fandom but it actually it is!( lm not hating but armys have to accept that)
As a 30 year old woman myself, I will have to disagree. Lol. We just genuinely like the guys and their music and are willing to do whatever is necessary to ensure they succeed. Teenagers can't sell out the luxury items they endorse like Palisade vehicles and designer goods. Because the Fandom is so large, there will be bad actors among us, but we actively shame them for their unhealthy behaviors. Army does so much more than just the haters online but it makes no sense to speak on these things because you the ktuber can't see it.
@@ChelseaSen yes but even k - netizens know that the fandom is most teenage girls cuz kpop is most of them and the massive hate female idols get wasent from 30 + womans
just army has the biggest number of fans so even if a tenth of it is toxic it is still many while 90% are tame/normal ...so its stupid to unstan an group based on its fans
@@jimin585 yea even we blinks are pretty toxic and l agree to stop staning a group for its fans is stupid but l don't stan anymore Bts cuz l don't like their music but l will keep supporting them😄
@@ChelseaSeni guess not all 30+ women are mature and have better things to do🧑⚖️
1. The person who said all of BTS’s hit songs are in English most definitely is a BTS hater, especially since you mentioned they wrote in 3 (mostly negative) opinions about them. Because that’s not even true 😂 BTS have A MILLION AND ONE hit songs and only THREE of them were in English. I didn’t find out about BTS until Sept. 2016, which was right before they released Wings a month later. Their title track which blew the fvck up was Blood Sweat and Tears which is nowhere an English song😂
2. I swear every time I turn around people always say Stray Kids make “noise” music. Yall only say that shit because yall don’t see past their title tracks which of course will be hyper because THATS THE SONG TO INTRODUCE A CONCEPT/ALBUM! I don’t consider myself a Stay but I lovvveee me some Stray Kids. I literally have two of their albums physically (Oddinary and Maxident). Their music is the BOMB in my opinion so to say their music is only “noise” is crazy. A song of theirs called 19 is a perfect example.
this is the comment I was searching for! ofc they think skz music is noisy bc it's the damn title track, like wtf, it's supposed to be hype and bring energy-. they never hear the full albums or b-sides and automatically assume skz music is too noisy. they never hear secret secret, Sorry, i Love you, or skz replays, but oh well😭😭
I disagree with the “every group lagged their own way” no hate to any of the groups I’ll be mentioning but blackpink paved the way for baby monster and 2ne1 payved the way for blackpink. If it weren’t of 2ne1 I doubt bp would be as popular as they are today same goes for babymonster but instead of 2ne1 it’s bp
and big bang paved the way to 2ne1
@@jimin585 exactly nobody paved their own way
4:54 they are talented indeed but their fans are so annoying in so many ways they think that BM are the most talented group when it's not like that
ALL is crazy, literally even before 2020 (when they released their FIRST English song), they were already Korea’s pride. They already were ambassadors of the UN, they already went to the Grammys, they already internationally and nationally very well known. Why do some fans act like bts weren’t relevant before Dynamite? So you’re telling me that you’ve never heard of I Need you, Fake love, Idol, Boy with Luv, etc…that just 4 of their successful songs and that’s already more than their English songs 🤦🏾♀️
The first opinion is invalid..
Boy groups do NOT have more versatility that’s such a joke
Like Loona was able to cover fire by BTS and Cherry Bomb by NCT, but i wanna see either of those groups pull off sweet crazy love or hi high or love4eva (and i mean seriously pull it off, not in the cringy joking way boy groups always do)
So yeah no, boy groups only have like 3 flavors of concept whereas girl groups can do soooooo much more
6:29 all of those 3 opinions ARE ON POINTTT skz is js loud noisy music and its getting annoyinggg
Honestly I have to disagree SKZ title tracks are very much hype music but they also have melodic parts to the songs and catchy chorus in mostly all their titles tracks and they have a huge discography so if you listen to other bsides or singles/EPs the have full song ballads and more harmonious songs so to say all SKZ songs are loud and annoying is simple wrong and also id like to hear your opinion if SKZ (or Gidle imo) aren’t 4th gen leaders then who are cause just a few days ago SKZ are out breaking Guinness world records held by one direction?
Then don't listen to it?? Clearly they didn't make it for u
@@animesimp4640 fr I’ll never understand SKZ antis like if u don’t like they’re music then don’t listen no one is forcing you to
yeah bc all you listen to are title tracks, WHICH ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ENERGETIC AND HYPE?? No one ever listens to b-sides or full album and assumes all their music is "noisy". why don't you try secret secret? skz replays? another day, leave, cover me, waiting for us?? you can't judge them from the outside of the fandom if you don't listen to their musci.
@@Hervnah girl bye ur assuming i only listen to title tracks girl i dont 🌚. i’ve heard their b sides and they’re not for me and that’s why i stopped listening it
Pick me can’t be the way to describe ahyeon. She doesn’t make BM look bad yes there were times when she “over performed” but that doesn’t mean she purposely has the goal to put down the other members
BTS were extremely popular before those 3 abominations, I think those songs did more damage than good though in front of non-Kpop fans because it showed them that BTS shouldn't be taken seriously.
They had some cringe before that but not that level of basic.
If BTS want to be taken seriously by non-Kpop fans they should be doing more cyphers or more like I need U
not the "abominations"😭😭 so permission to dance, butter and dynamite?
I love your vids! 😭💖
@@CrazyoverEnhypen thank you so much 😭 u have no idea how much this means to me
I'm not a fan of Baby monster but saying the their overrated and Ahyoen (correct if I spelled her name wrong) a pick me is crazy 💀
6:50 I agree 1000% and even tho I’m a blink I’ll explain why. I tried giving them a chance last year but now aftee seeing people compare Jennie’s scandal(vape on) to sugas scandal(dui one) I’m convinced something is up, u people genuinely think releasing a puff of smoke in someone’s face is worse than possibly hitting people down on a scooter. You get hit by a scooter that’s it, breathing a single puff of smoke that’s in ur face is bad yes but u work die. Then I encountered an army who disagreed with my opinion on suga’s scandal. That army searched for my other comments on that vid, hated on me went as far as to go to my own recent community post( I deleted the comment) and say how disgusting I was.
5:05 on this one, i dont think pick me would be the best word but more like self centered..
Self centered for doing what. Some of you are so stupid tho
Man I'm such an Army simp, whenever people say they unstanned BTS bc of Armys I always wonder what they did to piss Army off lol. Seriously though, seems a huge shame to stop liking a great group just because you got triggered by some mean fans. 😏
Probably didnt even do anything. Just the way they treat other groups and their reactions to things that has nothing to do with them. And the creepy simps...
Tbh I’m a stay, but I totally agree with the skz opinions……….before they released their new album, I was thinking of unstanning them bc I didn’t like their songs (except Maniac and LaLaLaLa) also, I feel like u need to do more than break one record to be considered a ‘leader’. IMO, they haven’t paved the way for any other groups, their music is okay at best, etc. sure, they’re very talented, but they need to use that talent more in order to be considered ‘leaders’. Also, as an ace stay it makes me so uncomfortable when they make dirty jokes bc I find that disgusting.
@@KiraSetty 1. It wasn’t one record, get ur facts straight
2. They’re the most successful 4th gen group
3. You’re not a stay
@@avenfulll oh my god u r crazy. I say I don’t think they’ve done enough to be considered ‘leaders’ and u say I’m not a stay?
@@KiraSetty then who’s the leader huh? Hybe groups with their payola?!
@@avenfulll u can be a stay without worshipping skz and acting like everything they do is an act of god and anyone who has criticism for them is the literal devil. But go on and pray to ur shrine if that’s what you want to do
@@KiraSetty you didn’t answer the question and also I’m not worshipping anyone. If you wanna hate, just hate but don’t claim that you’re a stay
well as an army it hurt my feelings (more like angered and no most kpopies think army is the worst fandom ) to watch this video and no im not some 8-year old army.. yall dont know what blinks have done but its fine, im not gonna write a huge paragraph cuz ive got way better things to do with my life.. this video just proves how much kpopies hate bts
Notice how nobodys hating on bts? Just giving an opinion is wrong in the fandom. Both blinks and armies are wild animals..
@@jasonmendoza1175 wow! now yall are pretending to not hate bts.. where do u think the haters come from? from the moon.. wow u kpopies r actually crazy.. bts is one of the if not the most hated music artists worldwide.. and also if the creator is allowed to say their opinion, i can as well..
@@jasonmendoza1175 true
I love to see when kpop fan cry over bts and 2025 well be more than this 😅😊
Nobodys crying. Only the armies in the comment section are fsr😂
@jasonmendoza1175 I am so excited only 10 months its feels like tomorrow j hope only 2 months he will be here to when you have same one like bts you never cry ok 8 year old army forever 💜
@@EkramEko-fp1ty um ok