Haha TOP that will increase tax for someone earning $50k who owns a halfway decent house - by $11,000 PER YEAR - To subsidise commercial, rural and non-property investors That's all you need to know.
@@W_Bin 🤔 halfway decent, based on your numbers you are talking about someone who’s land value, just land value, is around 1.5 million. You have used the calculator right?
Imagine working 60-70hrs over a week from 18 till 65 (47Yr) and building up a business and assets worth $5 million, along the way paying $100's of thousands or millions in taxes, supplying income to many employees to raise their own families, buy a home etc.. Then when your getting ready to retire and live a nice remainder of life (not taking super either due to your wealth), to have these politicians (Green Party) take 2.5% PA off your hard earned assets (wealth) per year, to give to others who hardly work and have paid 1/4 of the tax you have or waste it on unproductive policies.
imagine reckoning that you're the only one that's ever worked hard... you know that disabled people, students, over 65s, single parents etc rely on social welfare too right? not just the imaginary jobless money wasters?
Bruh I work 50-60 hours a week and still couldn't hope to make the amount you make making more money doesn't necessarily = working harder and despite working so many hours i could not afford to support a family if i wanted one if getting taxed more ment that disabled people, lower income families, etc got to struggle a little less I'd pay that gladly we're in a cost of living crisis we need to help each other not hoard wealth
Imagine working your butt off earning $10k and paying 25.5% tax on it, to pay for the infrastructure and services for people who pay less than half that tax on far higher incomes, so they can enjoy more assets than anyone realistically needs while you have no hope of ever owning even 1 humble home. Not being able to afford food and heating let alone have any prospect of building up a business. The wealth tax is a very practical way of not stopping people from earning and buying, but imposing a small levy on those who can afford to and should contribute more because they have benefited more from government spending on health, education, infrastructure, providing a good workforce and environment to make profits for businesses. I believe there is a plan to capitalise wealth tax payments for seniors, so it's payable when their property is sold..
Is there somewhere I can watch the full debate? I’m currently overseas so can’t watch any of the debates live unless they’re on TH-cam due to geo locking.
I watched this debate and thought Jack Tame did a poor job at moderating the whole thing. It felt like Seymour spoke for half the time and the rest was divided between the other three. It was all over the show and the so-called highlights were adult men acting like kids trying to throw dumb jokes at each other. The fact that the so-called experts dubbed James Shaw the winner just goes to show how biased TVNZ1 really is.
Agreed. The Maori party was the winner in some respects. The panel itself as a barometer of this debate are biased. Wilson is ex National Espiner hates Peters and TV 1 are biased against Peters and they Hosking and many orhers will get their beans come election day. Lack of respect and peddling their own agenda. Even having Key saying Peters an be trusted says it all. Tame should go or be pushed.
Yup. Nothing worse than seeing adult men try and throw dry jokes at each other. I would have preferred a more cordial debate based on facts and not bad jokes.
Yeah and Maori are NOT Indigenous to N.Z. The Maori ate the Indigenous people here and then claimed they were here firstly, not much has changed then :)
Tangatawhenua have been here since day 1.The first waka here was kupe .He saw the Tangatawhenua, talked with them and told his people.and anyway what's that got to do with anything. We had a treaty. The crown and new Zealanders broke it with murder rape and theft of land. @williamconnell6541
And now we have 20 percent higher excess mortalities. All the third world countries are below expected mortality expectations because... they couldn't afford to force their citizens to get a vaccine designed to increase pharmaceutical profits for years to come
Here's a quick review of the show. The man in the hat is not happy with the old man next to him, who is not happy with the cheeky man next to him, who is not happy with the green man next to him, who is not happy with anything, especially the weather!
Why are these parties separately done. Would like to see them on equal platform with labour and national. Would also be good if people could let each other finish speaking before speaking. 6 year olds have better conversation manners
Because then some real people who live real lives who actually care about their grandchildren's prospects might get involved and tear holes in the state sanctioned self hatred and forced homosexuality
The greens party is more interested in taking away people's hard earned money and giving it to people many of whom don't want to work ,than doing what their party was founded for .
Grow up. Climate change is one of the effects of a warming planet planet. As the planet warms it will have a disruptive and possible destructive effect of 8 billions living on this planet. The warning bells are ringing so its time to adapt to changes.
The climate hoax is just that. These people aren't just changing historic weather data to suit the narrative. They are also changing historic events. Like the objective fact that maoris arrived here after nz was already inhabited by other people's who they then genocide and ate. Then the most clued up environmentalist's (according to the man who lied about his education and refuses to comment on it) proceeded to hunt the moa and other species of birds to extinction and destroyed 70 percent of the natural forrest before they ran out of food so they began killing and eating each other. When the Europeans arrived we traded with the maori and the queen offered them her protection via treaty in exchange for their sovereignty. It all went down hill in the 70s. Fast forward to 2023, NZ is now a slave state for international finance. It doesn't matter who you vote for, they all work for rootless international bankers not you that votes them in. History repeats itself, we are about to enter a radical time. The USA will be in hot war with Russia in months possibly weeks, just how the bankers like, making money from both sides of every war since the beginning of Central banking.
Aucklands beaches are Unswimmable ! Most of NZs rivers & lakes are Unswimmable ! Only one way to vote for any hope of a GREEN NEW ZEALAND ! ! ! GREEN not GREED ! ! ! : )
This is useless. Please put the full debates on TH-cam so New Zealand can DISCUSS THEM. You missed for example immigration- I didn't get any of their immigration policies from the actual debate. None of them explained the issues. None of them considered the wishes of the people of New Zealand. Apart from housing and infrastructure, what effect are they having on wages? 100k every year, 70k to Auckland - are our jobs increasing that much?
Te Party...Me Myself I and Maori. NZ First...Those were the days. Act...Honesty is such a lonely word. Green...It's my party, and I'll cry if I want to. Jack Tame...Stuck in the middle with you. Best line of the debate...David calls James "Offshaw" because he has been off-shore a lot.
They are all telling the truth according to their ideology. The thing is, which do the voters want to believe? They will believe the ones that best aligns with their ideology.
90% of the parties working together do not get along at all, wether that is with their policies, personal beliefs or just with the other person in general.
@@neilstanley5565Well. The Polynesian people were the best seafaring navigators in the world. There's no question about it. Just say you hate them lmao.
Science led to us creating plastics, atomic bombs, fuel and emissions, different ways of mining, over the past few hundred years which has completely changed the world we inhabit. The point is that knowledge for the same of consumption/capitalism is not working and largely has ignored the opinions and practices of different people and indigenous cultures who have been living off the land in a significantly less disruptive way.
David Seymour seems to be reasonably consistent in his views. I don't agree with all ACT's policies and I won't deny they have their problems, but they have my vote again.
@@ShaunCollins-vm9xc He isn't consistent at all and he has not represented the values his party pretends to represent. He is part of the problem like Nat and Lab/Greens. Still at least it will oust the current shitshow if you vote for ACT so go ahead. Don't say you weren't warned.
David do not bad mouth a future coalition partner... explains why you have dropped in the polls - people have shown you what they think of your behaviour... pull you head in little man grow up and do what the people expect of you.
David Seymour: There has never been a society decided by who your ancestors were. Has the dude never heard of the monarchy? The Royal Family? The New Zealand Head of State? The one's that did the deal with tangata whenua? The one's who did the deal with Rangatira? The one's who wrote te tiriti o Waitangi? Piss off with your selective history Seymour. If Act truly believes in legal property rights and contract law then honour te tititi o Waitangi. The founding document of this country.
@@auintogold4725 What has pre colonial history, regardless or not of its accuracy, have to deal with a legal agreement between two parties? You seem to be confused by the agreement between the Crown and a majority of Rangitira, not all, representing Māori. Te tiriti o Waitangi is well worth researching. I understand many settlers, along with Māori, were swindled by the New Zealand company but that's not the fault of Māori. The fear and division is an echo that's been repeating 1840 NZ. Search for the RNZ doco The Wairau Affray on TH-cam. It's a fascinating doco that makes a lot of things click into place. You have to know your history to understand your present.
3 articles of the treaty. Ceed sovereignty forever. Right to keep your land and protection from the crown. That's it! No co-goverence!! It's capitulation by delinquent politicians who lacked fortitude to say no to the whingers, bleeding heart liberals and greedy Maori over the years.
See how European knowledge worked out for Tasmanian tiger, Paradise parrot, Xerces blue butterflies, Crescent nail-tail wallaby, St. Helena Darter, Kākāwahie, Apple bumblebee, Grey whale, Rotund rocksnail, Pyrenean ibex, Aurochs, Sicilian wolf, and the list goes on plant life the oceans, rivers, forests, air and the whole planet.
@tumeke4328 Pretty Eurocentric of you to imply that "European Knowledge" is to be credited for the demise of the entire planet. Ever heard of gunpowder? Know where that came from? (Hint: it ain't Europe)
@tumeke4328 it's almost as if, all human cultures have at some point in time hunted animals to extinction and contribute to the shitstorm we are in now. However, unless you are willing to go back to the indigenous way of living (no electricity, modern medicine, surgery, dentistry, internet, telephones, cars etc) then you will have to turn to "European Knowledge" to get those modern needs fulfilled without burning the planet. Solar power (French), wind turbines (American bur I know you really meant Western, and more specifically, White anyway), hydropower (British/American), Geothermal (Italy).
@@tinyfreckle more so comparing the levels and stats of destruction over the years. I know who created gun powder. Do you know who created the atomic bomb and has been involved? If not, provoked most of the wars around the world and killed the most civilians...
@tumeke4328 do you use a microwave? What about all those countries that are literally run on nuclear energy? My whole point is that this stupid point scoring of who has the most destructive ancestors is pointless and distracts from actually dealing with the problem at hand.
The Maori Party claims to represent Maori interests but at most get 5% of the Maori vote. Labour's Maori caucus actually listen and deliver for the Maori community, with a proven track record.
"This country wasn’t taken by force it was taken by consent" The Maori had no choice they couldn’t defend their homeland anymore they were overwhelmed with enemy forces even their own people/Kupapa/ fought against them. They had to sign a treaty and make peace. For their own lives sake,all for land resources smh.
Is this the same "sensible" Green Party who say that violence in NZ is caused by cis white men or the "sensible" Maori Party who say that Maori are the superior race in NZ?
David, youre talking yourself out of votes. Stop bickering with Winston and get on with it. Shaw and that other idiot have no idea of government. None. A joke. So pull finger David and go forward. Not bickering. All it gets you is less seats and even less influence.
Will you guys put up the whole debate? I would like to see it. Couldn't tune in last night. @1news
Most likely available on tvnz on demand
@@o900junior thanks mate
It's not they took it down... marxism
This is the left-wing version.
TVNZ
I'm just surprised that the corrupt 1 news has the comments section on.
Good on them though.
totally very surprised, they usually don't want any opinion except their own .
That's why I go to nz herald , first nz news I found that had comments on.
What are you talking about there are more Maori ministers then ever before. You don’t have to be in the Maori party to be in government
There is more BS than ever before.
Thats why we are in the mess we are
Sad TOP is not included, Raf is fantastic
True.
Raf is John Key light
Haha TOP that will increase tax for someone earning $50k who owns a halfway decent house - by $11,000 PER YEAR
- To subsidise commercial, rural and non-property investors
That's all you need to know.
@@W_Bin 🤔 halfway decent, based on your numbers you are talking about someone who’s land value, just land value, is around 1.5 million. You have used the calculator right?
@@madmannz01 yes, I bought a house for $360k 25 years ago, that's what it's worth now.
Another poor effort by Jack Tane the audience was stacked on the side of the Labour party buddies.
It did seem to be a bit of a set up.
He's a waana be punk, vote NF.
Imagine working 60-70hrs over a week from 18 till 65 (47Yr) and building up a business and assets worth $5 million, along the way paying $100's of thousands or millions in taxes, supplying income to many employees to raise their own families, buy a home etc..
Then when your getting ready to retire and live a nice remainder of life (not taking super either due to your wealth), to have these politicians (Green Party) take 2.5% PA off your hard earned assets (wealth) per year, to give to others who hardly work and have paid 1/4 of the tax you have or waste it on unproductive policies.
imagine reckoning that you're the only one that's ever worked hard... you know that disabled people, students, over 65s, single parents etc rely on social welfare too right? not just the imaginary jobless money wasters?
Bruh I work 50-60 hours a week and still couldn't hope to make the amount you make making more money doesn't necessarily = working harder and despite working so many hours i could not afford to support a family if i wanted one if getting taxed more ment that disabled people, lower income families, etc got to struggle a little less I'd pay that gladly we're in a cost of living crisis we need to help each other not hoard wealth
Imagine working your butt off earning $10k and paying 25.5% tax on it, to pay for the infrastructure and services for people who pay less than half that tax on far higher incomes, so they can enjoy more assets than anyone realistically needs while you have no hope of ever owning even 1 humble home. Not being able to afford food and heating let alone have any prospect of building up a business.
The wealth tax is a very practical way of not stopping people from earning and buying, but imposing a small levy on those who can afford to and should contribute more because they have benefited more from government spending on health, education, infrastructure, providing a good workforce and environment to make profits for businesses.
I believe there is a plan to capitalise wealth tax payments for seniors, so it's payable when their property is sold..
Is there somewhere I can watch the full debate? I’m currently overseas so can’t watch any of the debates live unless they’re on TH-cam due to geo locking.
What are the pot holes like overseas?
@@annekevandenberg1635 not sure, don’t need a car because they have public transport that actually works haha
Put up the full interview. The host is supposed to be neutral. That excludes jack Lame
Nice suit and tie though.
I watched this debate and thought Jack Tame did a poor job at moderating the whole thing. It felt like Seymour spoke for half the time and the rest was divided between the other three. It was all over the show and the so-called highlights were adult men acting like kids trying to throw dumb jokes at each other. The fact that the so-called experts dubbed James Shaw the winner just goes to show how biased TVNZ1 really is.
Agreed. The Maori party was the winner in some respects. The panel itself as a barometer of this debate are biased. Wilson is ex National Espiner hates Peters and TV 1 are biased against Peters and they Hosking and many orhers will get their beans come election day. Lack of respect and peddling their own agenda. Even having Key saying Peters an be trusted says it all. Tame should go or be pushed.
Biased? its state propaganda. They're lying scumbags for decades.
Good to see Shaw rattled.
Thought he was going to head-butt David at one point.
that's just how seymour is
You need to see the whole debate. This did not give anywhere near accurate impression.
Where's the full debate, not this cut back edit...
Left-wing directors cut.
TVNZ's highlights focus on slamming ACT and NZ First, and sugar coats their sugar daddies.
Bad for the teeth.
Alot of support for nz first in the comments , which gives me hope. I wouldn't be surprised if they turn the comments off.😂
Im only interested in the facts.Sniping with one another produces and gains nothing.
Yup. Nothing worse than seeing adult men try and throw dry jokes at each other. I would have preferred a more cordial debate based on facts and not bad jokes.
Agree Shirley
It did get pretty loose at times.
It was disgusting. Poor facilitating and bad manners.
These aren't highlights, they're low lights.
Blame the Dame!
You need to upload the full debate.
im pretty sure its on tvnz on demand
Another clip click bait clip piece. Post the full interview. The only racism present was by the Maori Party again!!!
He was quite funny though.
There are many ordinary Maori who do extraordinary things.
There are many ordinary Kiwis who do extraordinary things.
Where is the full debate?
Winston wins - he understands the issues. The others are like children - naive in the extreme. Experience counts.
Another one sided recap
Greens,Maori, labour and national all read from the same globalist net zero script that the media is paid to support.
To correct David Seymour. Nzers aren't universal citizens of the world. Nzers are citizens of NZ.
No indigenous every one came from somewhere else
Yeah and Maori are NOT Indigenous to N.Z. The Maori ate the Indigenous people here and then claimed they were here firstly, not much has changed then :)
Tangatawhenua have been here since day 1.The first waka here was kupe .He saw the Tangatawhenua, talked with them and told his people.and anyway what's that got to do with anything. We had a treaty. The crown and new Zealanders broke it with murder rape and theft of land. @williamconnell6541
As an American I gotta say these guys are very civil and still spirited. And good with decent humor. For dad humor anyway.
left wing edited highlights
So obvious.
Both the Māori party & the greens lying through their teeth about co governance.
One Nation
One people
One vote
One law
All under one rainbow.
@@annekevandenberg1635🏳️🌈
Nothing new here.
The health system wasn’t getting vaccination rates up in Maori UNTILL……… they got free KFC !🤣🤣🤣
A typical racist remark!
M
And now we have 20 percent higher excess mortalities. All the third world countries are below expected mortality expectations because... they couldn't afford to force their citizens to get a vaccine designed to increase pharmaceutical profits for years to come
YUMMY!
The more I look into our politics, the more I wonder how I ever voted for labor. Nz first , you have a new proud supporter. Good luck going forward 👍
Winston Peters is morphing into the queen
She rode horses as well.
Was thinking this other day too weirdly.
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂 You're right!
Who is that cowboy person? Is he from Texas?
Cowboy is right this one is full of it.
He is funny though.
Why yes he is! He really is!
@@aliciamiratana950
I think so.
Full video please
Here's a quick review of the show.
The man in the hat is not happy with the old man next to him, who is not happy with the cheeky man next to him, who is not happy with the green man next to him, who is not happy with anything, especially the weather!
@@Batman-q9i found it on tvnz+ after digging the old app out, some password resets and getting dropped and having to log back in., but thanks.
Where's the full thing?
It's out there somewhere...
Doc NZ Studios plays the full debate. Check it out
People stsrted get vaccinated brcuase you offered free stuff. People got vaccinated nit to be considerate of other but to get free stuff.
What was your spelling like before covid?
It worked.
Jack tame is a labour party fanboy.
He's like a Labour Party Jack in the box.
As soon as he pops out of the box he springs to the left.
Would be hilarious if David Seymour and Winston Peters had a scrap with each other during the debate lol
😂😂Wrestling each other to the ground - I'd say David's a hair-puller though.
@@beecee6383 haha so true
See ya Labour/Greens pack ya bags.
Why are these parties separately done. Would like to see them on equal platform with labour and national.
Would also be good if people could let each other finish speaking before speaking.
6 year olds have better conversation manners
Because then some real people who live real lives who actually care about their grandchildren's prospects might get involved and tear holes in the state sanctioned self hatred and forced homosexuality
@@DouglasFir90 well that's extremely specific 😅
@@VenomRoadRacing well I hate seeing my nation turn in to a third world country in the name of "equality and inclusiveness", it's a touchy subject
Add Tamaki to the mix...And enjoy your popcorn!
James Shaw: the insufferable socialist
Climate change...The new Western Front.
Red on the inside,green on the outside.
When James Shaw says we need more greenies to affect climate change what he means is spread more fear about alleged climate change
The greens party is more interested in taking away people's hard earned money and giving it to people many of whom don't want to work ,than doing what their party was founded for .
Yeah they need more MP’s to go around making sure people are sacred for their lives. More to glue themselves to the roads.
Grow up. Climate change is one of the effects of a warming planet planet. As the planet warms it will have a disruptive and possible destructive effect of 8 billions living on this planet. The warning bells are ringing so its time to adapt to changes.
Why can I only see 1 reply but there is 3?
The climate hoax is just that. These people aren't just changing historic weather data to suit the narrative. They are also changing historic events. Like the objective fact that maoris arrived here after nz was already inhabited by other people's who they then genocide and ate.
Then the most clued up environmentalist's (according to the man who lied about his education and refuses to comment on it) proceeded to hunt the moa and other species of birds to extinction and destroyed 70 percent of the natural forrest before they ran out of food so they began killing and eating each other.
When the Europeans arrived we traded with the maori and the queen offered them her protection via treaty in exchange for their sovereignty.
It all went down hill in the 70s. Fast forward to 2023, NZ is now a slave state for international finance. It doesn't matter who you vote for, they all work for rootless international bankers not you that votes them in. History repeats itself, we are about to enter a radical time. The USA will be in hot war with Russia in months possibly weeks, just how the bankers like, making money from both sides of every war since the beginning of Central banking.
Aucklands beaches are Unswimmable ! Most of NZs rivers & lakes are Unswimmable !
Only one way to vote for any hope of a GREEN NEW ZEALAND ! ! !
GREEN not GREED ! ! ! : )
Press Alt+F4 to vote on who you think won the debate
You mean there are winners in this?
This is useless. Please put the full debates on TH-cam so New Zealand can DISCUSS THEM.
You missed for example immigration-
I didn't get any of their immigration policies from the actual debate.
None of them explained the issues. None of them considered the wishes of the people of New Zealand. Apart from housing and infrastructure, what effect are they having on wages?
100k every year, 70k to Auckland - are our jobs increasing that much?
Rocking facial tattoos works 🤣🤣
Indigenous knowledge for climate change ? Dude you are in a dream world
Te Party...Me Myself I and Maori.
NZ First...Those were the days.
Act...Honesty is such a lonely word.
Green...It's my party, and I'll cry if I want to.
Jack Tame...Stuck in the middle with you.
Best line of the debate...David calls James "Offshaw" because he has been off-shore a lot.
David is that you?
@@Ewols-n6t Hit*ler are you here with us? oh here you are.
act ses it all,he's acting
I assure you this sounded much better in your head anne.
Nah best line: 53:40 does anyone here think national's tax plan is credible"?
Winston all the way
James Shaw, condescending.
Tax tax tax
And more tax!
Nothing new here.
Yea I would like to see more off Winston's, so true they minimise the only one telling the truth 😡😡
They are all telling the truth according to their ideology.
The thing is, which do the voters want to believe?
They will believe the ones that best aligns with their ideology.
90% of the parties working together do not get along at all, wether that is with their policies, personal beliefs or just with the other person in general.
What is indigenous knowledge? Will they solve the climate issue? Are they a special type of scientists?
We're all in this together.
these deluded souls even think they were better sailors and navigators than the Vikings , what a joke they are.
Yes absolutely! Indigenous knowledge will rebalance the climate crisis
@@neilstanley5565Well. The Polynesian people were the best seafaring navigators in the world. There's no question about it. Just say you hate them lmao.
Science led to us creating plastics, atomic bombs, fuel and emissions, different ways of mining, over the past few hundred years which has completely changed the world we inhabit. The point is that knowledge for the same of consumption/capitalism is not working and largely has ignored the opinions and practices of different people and indigenous cultures who have been living off the land in a significantly less disruptive way.
David Seymour was absolutely great. All the hosts of these nz debates are always terrible BTW.
I’m definitely party vote NZ First.
im voting Act
David Seymour seems to be reasonably consistent in his views. I don't agree with all ACT's policies and I won't deny they have their problems, but they have my vote again.
Yes I'm voting ACT, they need to be in the Beehive.
@@ShaunCollins-vm9xc He isn't consistent at all and he has not represented the values his party pretends to represent. He is part of the problem like Nat and Lab/Greens. Still at least it will oust the current shitshow if you vote for ACT so go ahead. Don't say you weren't warned.
Wise!
We do need real change.@@ShaunCollins-vm9xc
Seriously voting non of them been doing just fine using my own initiative since covid and stronger in my own identity not living through others
Fair nuff
Go Winston, put ALL NZers First❤👍
Thanks to Winston we had Cindirella Ardern
Yeah, because he’s always done that……NOT! It’s Winston first with him, not NZ first.
And his horse!
No to Winston the sellout!
Did Rawiri say "Winstonized science"?
Why are we fighting like Americans
Full video please 😀
You can watch the full debate on TVNZ+!
@1newsNZ Any options for overseas voters?
@1news that's not true, it's not on 1news on demand. You only have the highlights available which are heavily biased to the communists
@@1NewsNZ spreading misinfo again. It's not there you liars. This is unacceptable, you are funded by us but do not give us fair debates
@@TheFeijoas Get a VPN
One hater , one used car dealer , one brings the facts and shawly one has paranoid disorder.😂
David do not bad mouth a future coalition partner... explains why you have dropped in the polls - people have shown you what they think of your behaviour... pull you head in little man grow up and do what the people expect of you.
At least Luxon has not got any hair to pull out in frustration.
You sound like a Green Party supporter.
@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj NEVER EVER!
I voted labour and green. Wish I voted Maori and NZ first. But still think I standby my decision. Great debate ❤
My vote is not with labour or national not this year no way
David Seymour: There has never been a society decided by who your ancestors were. Has the dude never heard of the monarchy? The Royal Family? The New Zealand Head of State? The one's that did the deal with tangata whenua? The one's who did the deal with Rangatira? The one's who wrote te tiriti o Waitangi? Piss off with your selective history Seymour. If Act truly believes in legal property rights and contract law then honour te tititi o Waitangi. The founding document of this country.
@@auintogold4725 What has pre colonial history, regardless or not of its accuracy, have to deal with a legal agreement between two parties? You seem to be confused by the agreement between the Crown and a majority of Rangitira, not all, representing Māori. Te tiriti o Waitangi is well worth researching. I understand many settlers, along with Māori, were swindled by the New Zealand company but that's not the fault of Māori. The fear and division is an echo that's been repeating 1840 NZ. Search for the RNZ doco The Wairau Affray on TH-cam. It's a fascinating doco that makes a lot of things click into place. You have to know your history to understand your present.
That was then...This is now.
@@annekevandenberg1635 Wow, do you think legal property rights have a time limit?
Society has always been decided by who your ancestors were.
Co-governance is in fact evening up the balance.
Governments are always going to say what the people want to hear apart from the Maori party.❤❤❤
NZ is a multicultural society, not a monocultural society.
the kaupapa debate was one of the better ones with all six main choices present and mostly good speakers.
Yeah thats why I'm voting for ACT
@@spaceli0n everyone has an opinion spacie..I like the old comedian actors.too 😆🤣😂😹
3 articles of the treaty. Ceed sovereignty forever. Right to keep your land and protection from the crown. That's it! No co-goverence!! It's capitulation by delinquent politicians who lacked fortitude to say no to the whingers, bleeding heart liberals and greedy Maori over the years.
Real talk tautoko kuz
Winston is senial 🥴🥴🥴🤣🤣🤣
Mass Debate
In front of the whole country.
See how indigenous knowledge worked out for the moa
See how European knowledge worked out for Tasmanian tiger, Paradise parrot, Xerces blue butterflies, Crescent nail-tail wallaby, St. Helena Darter, Kākāwahie, Apple bumblebee, Grey whale, Rotund rocksnail, Pyrenean ibex, Aurochs, Sicilian wolf, and the list goes on plant life the oceans, rivers, forests, air and the whole planet.
@tumeke4328 Pretty Eurocentric of you to imply that "European Knowledge" is to be credited for the demise of the entire planet. Ever heard of gunpowder? Know where that came from? (Hint: it ain't Europe)
@tumeke4328 it's almost as if, all human cultures have at some point in time hunted animals to extinction and contribute to the shitstorm we are in now. However, unless you are willing to go back to the indigenous way of living (no electricity, modern medicine, surgery, dentistry, internet, telephones, cars etc) then you will have to turn to "European Knowledge" to get those modern needs fulfilled without burning the planet. Solar power (French), wind turbines (American bur I know you really meant Western, and more specifically, White anyway), hydropower (British/American), Geothermal (Italy).
@@tinyfreckle more so comparing the levels and stats of destruction over the years. I know who created gun powder. Do you know who created the atomic bomb and has been involved? If not, provoked most of the wars around the world and killed the most civilians...
@tumeke4328 do you use a microwave? What about all those countries that are literally run on nuclear energy? My whole point is that this stupid point scoring of who has the most destructive ancestors is pointless and distracts from actually dealing with the problem at hand.
Why so much time for the left again?!?!
Because TVNZ are left bent
Like a Nascar race, always turning left.
NZ media is very biased towards the left.Nothing new here.
Go winny
The Maori Party claims to represent Maori interests but at most get 5% of the Maori vote. Labour's Maori caucus actually listen and deliver for the Maori community, with a proven track record.
Thats why I don't vote for these parties nothing gets done... to many hui... However as individuals they are good people..
The maori talks about 180 yrs ago you were eating humans back then
Maori💪🏼✅✅
"This country wasn’t taken by force it was taken by consent" The Maori had no choice they couldn’t defend their homeland anymore they were overwhelmed with enemy forces even their own people/Kupapa/ fought against them. They had to sign a treaty and make peace. For their own lives sake,all for land resources smh.
Te Pati Māori !!!!!!!
National!!!!!!!!!
@@annekevandenberg1635 your the kid in class that raised his hand even though he didn't have an awnser aint ya....
Nice hat, like Clint Eastwood
Go ahead...Make my debate.
Was it a cast off from Dover Samuals ?
Maori Green and Labour should win this elections 2023. I hope New Zealand First join with the Labour Green Maori. I support Maori people
Spot on same i support maori people
Have you seen the polls?
That sounds like a coalition of chaos.
One coalition is Capitalism... One coalition is smarter and humans 1st💯
Written like a true socialist.
All equal...equally struggling that is.
Seymour and Peters sound like lame ducks, who can only criticize each other compared to the sensible policies of Greens and Te Pati Maori.
Is this ironic lol? That's the complete opposite than reality
Is this the same "sensible" Green Party who say that violence in NZ is caused by cis white men or the "sensible" Maori Party who say that Maori are the superior race in NZ?
Yes labour greens maori coalition
insane that you actually believe this
Have you seen the polls?
Luxon will get those ducks in order.
Greens and Te Pati policies will ruin our economy.
James Shaw got some zingers.
If I want a Zinger ill go to KFC. This is why our country is so screwed.
YUMMY!
MAORI PATI ...
I do like his hat. The pounamu is a nice touch as well.
David, youre talking yourself out of votes. Stop bickering with Winston and get on with it. Shaw and that other idiot have no idea of government. None. A joke.
So pull finger David and go forward. Not bickering. All it gets you is less seats and even less influence.
THANKS JACK
Yeah...Great comedy show!