The "BEST" Expat City in the WORLD! (Malaga Spain)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- InterNations released the survey results for The Best (& Worst) Cities for Expats in 2023 and we were fortunate enough to arrive in the best city (according to the survey) just a few days later.
Join us as we walk around the beautiful seaside city of Málaga in Southern Spain and share the pros & cons of living there. We can definitely see why expats love it so much, but it has a few drawbacks that might make you think twice about moving there.
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I was in Malaga a few years ago and enjoyed it very much. It is very walkable with much to do, including wonderful museums. Malaga has many fine eating establishments at very reasonable prices. The Spanish wines are excellent and inexpensive. I’d go back in a heartbeat.
Hey guys, I can assure you that Internet speeds in Spain are amazing. Most cities have fiber optics with up to 1000 mbps upload and download. That being said, I find that Spaniards can be quite frugal when they rent out their Airbnbs, so they order the worst level of service.
Also 5G is readily available on your mobile phone and many companies have unlimited data and hot spotting doesn't cost extra. If you lived in Spain, you would have some of the best Internet, but renting Airbnbs can be dicey in that regard.
We also checked restaurants and coffee shops to see if they were faster. They were not. Most were 10mbs. Seville was super fast but Granada and Malaga were slow in the city centers. A coworking space with 50mbs says it all.
@@AmeliaAndJP Wow, that's incredible. While I'm in people's homes in Madrid I was getting speeds of between 500 and 1000 Mbps. And I just did a speed test on Movistar's LTE and 5G Network, and the reported speed is 279 Mbps download and 87.4 Mbps upload with 28ms ping time. And the Movistar plan has unlimited data and hotspotting for a very reasonable price.
Hey there! I can confirm what the op said. Even the smallest cities in Spain have fiber optic cable providers since REALLY long ago, Im talking more than a decade ago, possibly two. Its simply unfair to declare otherwise because it is false. Definitely you got unlucky with places where they provide the cheapest possible bandwidth. I can definitely even remember the merger of many companies that started installing the infrastructure back in the 2000s. I live in Huelva, a much smaller city and have 950 mbps both ways.
We have a house in the country outside a small town 30 mins from Malaga and out internet is 300mb. I think you were unlucky. Also spent a lot of time in Malaga in all seasons and haven’t experienced the smell you did. 🤷🏼♂️
If you're not super invested on having lots of activity options outside home, you should try some of the smaller cities in Northern/Central Spain, like Galicia, Asturias, La Rioja, Navarra, Aragon or Castilla y Leon. There are cities in those areas which don't get as hot in Summer and, although they can get quite cold by Spaniard standards, don't usually get as cold as the Northern cities in the US.
We moved here about 3 months ago and live in a neighborhood in the outskirts, which is almost completely Spanish and very friendly. We made a great decision.
Then...Why aren't you living there ? What' s an extra half..1/2 day travel if it beats where you are currently living.
You’re able to communicate well there too?
How much are you paying for rent? Can I rent a tiny house outside of town for $500 per month?
We are living here too, in Teatinos. I love this city. We are here almost 2 years, everything is very good and comfortable.
@rob - Care to share the name of this neighbourhood?
We were there for 10 days in November, just south of Cortes Ingles. No "stink" whatsoever. I think you may have experienced a backup.
Just a side comment. Frutos Secos are different from Frutas Deshidratadas, not only in Spain but also in many other spanish speaking countries. Frutos secos is the generic way of referring to nuts (or any other hard seed covered by a shell) and the like since they are naturally dry, not dehydrated. Frutas deshidratadas would be the apple, banana, pineapple or whatever other fruit you take the humidity off. I hope this clears this out for you.
In Brazil is the same thing! 🙂
I was just visiting my friend there in September. ❤️ Yes. Very affordable and pleasant. A bit too hot for me in summer. But everything else was wonderful. Easy to make friends and enjoy life.
Thanks for sharing!
We were blessed to live in Southern Spain for 4 wonderful years, have returned often and plan on staying permanently. It’s my happy place. Glad you escaped Ecuador, sad what’s going on there. Enjoy your visit!
We didn’t escape Ecuador. It’s still our permanent home. We’ve been planning to slow travel for several years once both our dogs passed. It’s not as bad there as the media makes it seem.
@@AmeliaAndJP That’s good to hear. So sorry about your dogs. I lost both my chihuahuas this past year, I know how hard it is.
Good overview. I have friends who just sold their place in Malaga because of the summer heat (very valid point you make). I worry about you guys in Ecuador, given the recent developments. I can see why you're exploring Europe.
Ecuador is fine
Our president is taking good care of the situation
My wife and I will be visiting/scouting Malaga in February -- can't wait! We deliberately planned a winter trip to see just how chilly it actually gets.
it´s chilly on some days, but pleasant on other days. Gets chilly at night, but overall pleasant temperatures. The winter is short. By march it is already quite warm again
Really enjoy your videos ❤. I lived in Andalucia for many years and your comments about Malaga are spot on 😊, except the metro does go directly to the airport now. When the xmas lights are on it can get ridiculously crowded on the metro, in fact I'm surprised no one has been crushed yet. Malaga is beautiful and is one of my favourite cities. It does get roasting in the summer but it's not as hot as Seville, which often gets to more than 40 degrees. The Botannical Gardens, on the outskirts of the city, would make a great day out. They are vast and full of all kinds of plants, flowers, trees and shrubs. The wisteria is fabulous in April and the black bamboo forest is amazing.
Just a note about the dry River. You might notice that there are three or four very large reservoirs (embalses) Above the city, including the one surrounded by El Caminito Del Rey, or the other one near the botanic Gardens, embalse Del Limonero
If it’s not the rainy season, that is where the water is. If there were no dams, it would flow almost year-round. I say that living in California where we also depend on Reservoirs a great deal.
JP and Amelia we miss you guys soo much! ❤Come back to Cùmbayork!! 🙌
Thanks! 😊
Beautiful, clean city !!! Great information .......Aloha
The news coming out of Ecuador is scary, I hope your friends back there are safe.
We heard from all of them yesterday. They’re fine. Lots of misinformation online and panic offline, but life is the same for most.
@@AmeliaAndJP have you left Ecuador or are you just on vacation?
I think it's just cheap Airbnb owners for the slow internet because I live in Sevilla and have 800Mbps internet, mobile phone, and Netflix for 55 euros with Pepephone. I've been to Malaga about 7 or 8 times and haven't noticed the smell so not sure if something happened with the sewers while y'all were there. I am thinking about moving there, it does get hot in the summer but I have noticed it is usually 10-15 degrees F cooler than Sevilla. Anyway, another great video, thanks!
We had fast internet in Sevilla (275mbs) but the co-working space in Malaga was only 50mbs.
I visit Malaga many times a year as I live only 30 minutes away. I don't recognize myself in stinky areas, I never noticed that. When it rains, which it rarely does, it's probably slippery to walk here like elsewhere. The internet is incredibly fast where I live and I end up saying that I agree that it is very hot a couple of months a year but you have aircon and centers you can drop in etc. Yes, it can be crowded in some places in Malaga since Malaga is a tourist destination. Living about 30 minutes from Malaga means a much more reasonable price level for rent as well. Anyway, very good video presentation of Malaga even I disagree with a few things you commented on.🙂
We are from Southern California. We spent 4 weeks in Malaga to check it out (starting in September 2023) and your take on the city is SPOT ON. Great review guys 👏👍😀.
It is for sure much cheaper than California (about 50% of the cost) but we concluded that it is not for us. We enjoyed Madrid much more than Malaga. Thank you for an excellent video.
Curious ... what were some of the things that gave Madrid the edge over Malaga?
I live in the province of Malaga. We are experiencing the worst drought in 150 years. This would explain the smell. Malaga city is just one city along the Costa Del Sol. Visit Nerja, Fuengirola, Benalmadena, Torremolinos and Marbella they are all on the Coast. There are many stunning cities just 30 minutes inland. Have fun
Beautiful video! This makes me want to visit Spain too. I just saw that Spain is the second most visited country in the world. I was shocked! Glad you both are staying safe.
@@BobelSilencioso-g2i I am kind of surprised as well because whenever I talk to people who've travelled to Europe it's always England, France, Italy, Greece . . . rarely do I hear from folks who even desired visiting Spain. Well, that's people in Southern California anyway. I personally loved Spain when I visited.
@@imagesinla8575 But, do you know, there are more people in the world than North Americans? And these people visit Spain!
@@Maria-js9ou No, I didn't realize that. Wow! Learn something new everyday.
@@imagesinla8575 Glad I was helpful!
@@BobelSilencioso-g2i Not everyone has that on their radar. I had no idea either. My travels take me elsewhere. My guess is most people feel the same. Unless maybe you're European or travel there frequently. I even went to Europe once. It was crowded, stank, and people were rude. Never again.
Hello JP and Amelia: I live in Greece and in November I visited many of the same cities you did. I loved Granada and fell in love with a Flamenco dancer. I will marry her one day, but she does not yet know this. 😂😂 Not sure if you made it to Rhonda, but I really liked that town as well, not that I could live there. Malaga was awesome and so is Alicante. Could live in either one of these cities. The VISA process is a pain with that silly 90 day rule on all documents, but I could get it done I guess. Thanks for your great videos and keep on walking. Hope the violence in Ecuador subsides. Gunmen crashing the television station during a news broadcast is not good. Take care and be safe. Best regards, William
Thank you. Very useful video.
We are planning a trip in April. Starting in Madrid, then off to Malaga and then on to Estepona which is really where I have my heart set on.
My wife and I spent 10 days in Andalusia last month, likely around the same time as you guys. We loved the weather in Malaga, but the prices were ridiculous in the popular tourist areas. We found a suburb about 15 minutes away that was much more reasonable, but still well within easy driving distance to Malaga. It was largely populated by people who worked in Malaga.
I lived in the Malaga area for 3 years - and after watching your video I felt there were a number of things I could expand upon. Good video and so much is true … I hope my comments add to the discussion/ learnings
In 2020 I had internet that was 75 Mbps and I’m sure it’s been upgraded many times since then - with cell phone included I think it was around 60 euros a month. Internet companies/ deals could provided more information to availability and speeds beyond your unfortunate experiences.
The local suburban train along the costa del sol stops at the airport and does connect with the local metro system having joint stops/ transfer points.
I never experienced a stinky smell in Malaga so I’m not sure what was transpiring at the time you were there.
Water is an issue/ drought shortages are real … and are likely to get worse.
Also, did you hear about calimas - rains storms that have sand from the Sahara trapped in them and it rains mud … different degrees of severity and frequency, but good for a couple of them a year.
Very true about slippery tiles/ marble/ walkways after rain.
Hot - yes A/C is needed as throughout most of the summer high near 30 and overnight low at 6 am is about 24 and it is consistent like this throughout the summer with little change of weather. I used to say the weather was either hot and sunny, or really hot and sunny in the summer. In Malaga you at least can get breezes from the Mediterranean whereas inland (Granada, Seville) you do not get the breeze and it is much hotter inland.
Just wanted to point out a Spanish cultural thing about children playing outside late at night often close to midnight (frequently with their grandparents) as too hot during the day … it took me a couple of years before I learnt this was normal (related to your safety at night video comments).
I’ve been following your posts for awhile now and have really enjoy them (even more so your European exploration as I have checked out much of what you are now reviewing, and I had considered Ecuador as another adventure but not now) - looking forward to your continued Unconventional story
Thanks for sharing! 👍
Great information. Thanks!
Thanks for the great info!
Question about language: from your experience did you notice that most expats speak Spanish? How difficult is it to live there with just English?
@@ashvoj si tú no vas a aprender el idioma primero, tú tienes dos opciones: quedarte en tu país o emigrar a otro país que hable inglés.
I’ll be in Malaga, and Madrid, mid September. Really looking forward to it. 🎉😊
Great video. Malaga is definitely on our list. Interesting point about the internet. We experienced none of those problems when we were in Madrid and Barcelona last year, nor in Portugal the year before.
In Spain we reach upto from 100 to 1000 meg for personal use!!
In Spain
"fruto" = nut
"fruta" = fruit
Thanks for that.
la muchacha= Fruta , el muchacho= Fruto
You didn’t mention the suburban train which connects Malaga to the rest of the Costa del Sol for very reasonable prices. I was there last month and there was an ongoing government scheme which would allow for free trips if you took the train regularly- I think they have extended this to next year. Malaga city is ok but the beaches further out are a lot nicer.
This suburban train also goes to the airport, Plaza Mayor (a great outlet mall) and down the coast to Fuengirola - and like mentioned, currently super cheap government subsidized travel option
It's so good to receive complimentary comments about our city.
Your fellow blogger Rick Steves was far from complimentary when he visited Malaga, and many people in the area took great exception to his dismissive attitude to the city.
But well done to you!!
Just spotted video on Malaga, I am there now, since New Year’s Eve. I certainly agree with all of your comments both positive & negative, except your experience of the central area being smelly. I am staying there now and have not any experience of bad smells.
Slow internet is very frustrating though - seems to be quiet a common feature in Europe. I traveled extensively in Germany, Austria and France last summer, overall internet speed was poor in hotels and apartments I rented.
Your channel is great, keep up the good work.
Ecuador is so sad right now. You were not the first that made me aware of how gentle the people in Ecuador were.
No, it's not. Cuenca is paradise. I guess it will stay that way if lots of folks focus on how "unsafe" based on what they hear on MSM.
We are snowbird Canadians living near Malaga in Fuengirola for a few months. In trying to "live like a local" we are mostly walking and using public transport, and have enjoyed the SENIOR discounts for bus and train if you look hard enough. We love the vibe of this old style part of Spain, combined with modern amenities. Our internet in the AirBnB is 120MBS here. We also write a non-monetized yesRetired blog, and would love to meet you while you are in the area. Drop us a note if that could work for you. We will buy you a coffee.
Looks like a great spot if you like walkable city type activities and culture, the ocean, that is safe, affordable, and civilized.. Everybody has different criteria and there are always compromises, but way more stable than South America!
I have not been to Malaga but I've been curious about it, so I enjoyed your video a lot :D thank u! Now regarding the negatives. Comparable to Valencia (where I got to live for a few months): We did not experience odors in the streets at all, we were there during winter too. And we did have very good internet! We work remotely for creative agencies, video production, etc. So this would have been very bad if we didn't have good internet! You guys should definitely visit Valencia....! BUT something in common of the low side is that like other south countries, it can get crazy hot in the summer.
We were in Andalusia in April 2011 and we really loved it. So many places to see. I remember that while we were there we thought that it would be a nice place for us to retire. We enjoyed everything even less known places such as Ronda which we'd like to see again with Granada, Cordoba, Seville and Cadiz.
Granada, Córdoba, Sevilla, Cádiz, Málaga, and Jerez de la Frontera!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Ah, me encanta Málaga....and we had hoped to retire there. We were supposed to be gone by 2020. Yep the year that changed everyone's lives. Now we're even older and have decided not to move there. BUT, loved this video as it's one of my favorite cities in Spain and we're going back in May. Yay!
Have you considered Graz, Austria? I grew up there and it is a fantastic place with lots of variety close-by. World-class skiing a bit to the North, excellent vineyards to the South, hot springs to the East, and beautiful forests and lakes all around. Graz itself is a vibrant city with a world-heritage city center, 3 universities, and a great local cuisine.
I don't think they are into places that get cold like Austria does. Also, is Austria nearing the expense of living in Germany? I just can't see these two going for that.
@@ChristopherX30 But it does sound nice.
You are right about Austria. Have spent time in Austria in 2023 and it is just too expensive for the average Expat. Nothing a few million $$ would not cure IMHO 😊
Austria is where my family is from so I would love to spend time there, but they have no visa options for most people so it’s lower on our list of places to visit.
@@AmeliaAndJPVisit or live?
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍Muchas gracias por el Video,, maybe you forget to talk about Picasso´s museum a place that deserve a visit!!
Never been there, but it reminds me of Cadis Spain, the scenery and streets.
The importance of safety is an American way of thinking. Always concerned if other places are safe even if coming from one of the unsafest places.
I'm looking to do a Spain discovery trip within the next year or so. I'll add Malaga to my list of cities to visit. I'm hoping to spend 5 or 6 weeks bopping around.
Cantabria, Santander, Asturias ,Gijón, Galicia, Coruña, Pais Vasco, San Sebastián try it!! you´ll never forget!! 😘😘😘😘😘😘
I've been to Malaga more times than I can count (having lived nearby for 6 years) and it's never had a bad smell. I think maybe there was a problem with the sewer system when you were there.
Sounds like it wasn’t a common experience.
Slow internet is kind of a dealbreaker for TH-cam creators. Thanks for detailing how bad it is there. Mbps = megabits per second, not megabytes per second. Keep the great videos coming! 🤩
We stayed with friends in Valencia Spain and it's an amazing city - not as crowded and easier to navigate than Barcelona. There's a lot to see there and La Alhambra was amazing in Granada Spain. It's wonderful to be able to walk the city of Valencia and enjoy all the sights - so easy to walk.
Ecuador 😞 After being in Mexico for a year, I’m considering Thailand/Cambodia/Malaysia. It is another world away from my daughters, yet I know providing them with options outside of the states is the most important move I can make at this time in our lives.
I would reconsider Thailand. The air quality is not good December through March in Chiangmai and Bangkok area.
Excellent review. Thank you guys!
Other reasons why Malaga is a very good expat choice: a) Lots of international schools, b) Lots of options for sports: jogging, cyclying, hiking, watersports, tons of gyms, etc. c) Lots of interesting places nearby; historic small villages such as Ronda, Mijas, Casares...and places like Marbella, Puerto Banus, Torremolinos..) You mentioned it is too hot. Well, in July & August it is, but much more mild than any interior city such as Granada, Seville, or Madrid, and actually more bearable than high humidity cities such as Barcelona, Valencia. And yes, I agree that El Palo / Pedralejo is the place to live...
Pam here….I wonder if Starlink is available in Spain…goodness that internet speed is HORRID!! My sister in law lives in the NorthWoods of WI and Starlink is the bomb!! The upload speeds are insane!! Many countries I think are not going to ‘invest’ in upgrading fiber infrastructure if Starlink can do so well.
Valencia is on my wish list. Are you doing a video from there?
Same! Going in March to compare Sevilla, Málaga, Valencia, and Barcelona. (I like bigger cities near the beach.). 🇪🇦
Málaga, Valencia, Alicante, Granada, Sevilla, Barcelona, Madrid are the cities expaxt prefer!!
I've been seeing more and more videos etc documentaries about the severe water shortages in Spain. Most of the reservoirs are dangerously low. The tourist areas don't really have water restrictions like residential areas even tourist areas like Malaga have restrictions between tourist areas and residential. The Agri areas especially have ground water shortages etc. They're using recycled water (how ever they do that is a mystery) for all so many of the golf coarse in the Costa del Sol
Barcelona. Residence have timers on meters etc.
Have you come across any of this.
Didn't ever hear about the sewage smell in Malaga. That's something to look forward to for our upcoming trip in March I'm sure... NOT
showers on the beach areas of residential areas are shut down but tourist areas unaffected... Wonder if that's the reason for so much displeasure with tourists and expats in the area.
Didn't realise Spain was the California or Europe with regards to fruit and veg product production with the same water problems.
What are your thoughts on choas in Ecuador? Any on the ground news?
Oh my...you compare Denver's Wash Park...Caught me ear as a Denver native. Have you reviewed Marbella or Tomemolinos? Went on a group trip several years ago and like the feel of those villages. Don't know that I would move there. Like your video.
Málaga is certainly one of the best cities in Spain to live in. I would also rate Valencia in that category. According to Numbeo the cost of living is similar to that of Porto and lower than Lisbon, mainly due to the exorbitant rents in the Portuguese capital. According to the data from Numbeo Valencia is about 10 percent cheaper than Málaga. Both would be excellent choices for either retiring or for long stays as a tourist.
Hey I love your channel. I heard recently about the extreme violence in Ecuador. Are the both of you doing okay? Have you given everyone an update on your safety and situation?
I hope we get some updates
I want to visit this year
I’m keeping positive
They're in Spain, have you seen the last videos? 🤣
My parents are from Ecuador and they tell me to avoid Ecuador at all costs. It's sad what's happened down there.
Yes, we went to Malaga for Christmas 2018 and immediately felt like it was the area where we wanted to move if we ever moved out of the US. We went back to Malaga, Marbella, Benalmádena, Mijas Costa, and Fuengirola in Spring 2022 to scout out areas on the Costa del Sol to live. We are returning this June for a month's stay and will dive deeper into searching for our new home when we retire in a few years. It has a wonderful lifestyle and reasonable costs compared to the US. Regarding the Summer heat, we were there in late May and early June, which was very nice. Nights were comfortable, some even a little chilly, and days were warm and dry. I am used to living in Georgia and Florida in the US, and summers are sweltering and sticky. So, I do not think the Costa del Sol Summer will be too hot to handle. I will get a better feel this June.
Its July and August that are the hottest, andgetting hotter year by year, with multilple severe heatwaves each summer recently. Its also very humid , sticky heat, quite unbearble.
I agree for expats that speak minimal Spanish but if your Spanish is good then anywhere in Andalucia is Ideal. IF, you can deal with all the bureaucracy and government corruption. That being said southern Spain is still worth it.
I love Malaga, I live in Malaga! It’s very safe, affordable and comfortable. Health care is very good.
About internet, you are wrong, it’s the best and fast in Europe. Trust me, my husband is American IT network engineer.
@@MsLudam do you live with children?
@@Manifesting_Secret_Sketchbook No
It's not always true that internet speed is slow in Malaga. I have stayed several times in a B&B name La Casa Azul B&B (which recently closed unfortunately) which is around 2 km from centro and the WiFi speed was almost always 100 Mbps or more for downloading and around 20 Mbps or so for uploading. I have worked remotely from this B&B several times and was quite particular about the WiFi speed as it was closely tied to remote work.
I'm here in eastern part of Marbella for the winter, it has its own micro-climate and most of the days are sunny and warm (ca. 20C in the sun, perfect). The summer temps are crazy high, but by then I'm back in Northern Europe for the manageable climate. I think you should check out smaller towns on Costa del Sol and hopefully will visit other costas too. I personally don't want to live inland, I love the sea, so it has to be a Costa of some kind. As for your question a couple of days back, Spain vs. Ecuador... one is first world country and it shows and feels. If you like safe environment with amazingly deep history and culture, Europe is the place to be. Like you've seen, costs are not that different and the bang for the buck is great here.
Thanks for that very informative video of Malaga…I will definitely plan to visit that place. Very interesting.
That video was about Portugal vs Ecuador, not Spain.
My goodness ,I have not seen you guys for years!
Have you moved to Spain?
I am moving to Malaga next year from Belfast,Northern Ireland.
You both look well and happy!
Welcome back! We're full time travelers now, currently in France but heading back to the Balkans soon and then on to SE Asia.
Málaga es una ciudad turística y por lo tanto es costoso vivir allí. Estamos planeando visitar y conocer Andalucía, pero para vivir nos tenemos que conformar con lo que tenemos, Puerto Rico 🇵🇷.
Viva Puerto Rico!! y te lo dice un Malagueño que ha estado muchas veces allí!! Saludos amigos 😍😍😍😍
Every time i go to Spain, the first thing i can smell is the drains but you get used to it. Great vid
I'm in Realejo in downtown Granada and it stinks to high heaven. Old plumbing and sometimes sloppy new plumbing too.
Excellent job, guys, very nicely produced! My only concern with Spain is its tax situation vis-a-vis Portugal (which I know is eventually dropping its attractive tax scheme for Americans moving in), and, of course, there's Italy, given the fact that my wife is Italian, and we go back and forth. Am surprised about the smell and the Internet, as Italy, typically, does NOT these two problems, though, any time you're in Southern Europe, you're going to find very dry, hot weather during the summer...at least you don't have the horrid mosquitos which drove us nuts while living in Boca a few years back. So happy to see the both of you thriving, happy, and 'youthening'! P.S. JP, you're making me jealous as your Spanish is improving remarkably...after 40 years married to an Italian, I'm an absolute imbecile with foreign languages, just getting by. God bless, and safe travels!
Rainfall is 21inches a year ave high low 60s in jan that similiar to LA
Enjoy your channel very much. IMHO I will take Europe , especially Malaga, Spain over South America 100% of the time.
Great video--thank you!
Yes! If I was to move to Europe, Malaga would be my #1 choice…..BUT…… I would return to Australia every July/August for a mild winter rather than experiencing a boiling hot summer.
What you refer as El Palo is really called Pedregalejo . El Palo is a crowded working class area with almost no parks or vegetation west of Pedregalejo.
What is your take on the current tenuous situation in Ecuador?
Dont think they want to talk about this
This video is about Spain. We posted about Ecuador on our community tab and Facebook this morning.
thank you @@AmeliaAndJP
That is a really pretty area!
Your channel has improved tremendously. Now it reminds me the Rick Stevens show, minus the wine drinking :)
Amelia and JP: Are you still based in Ecuador and planning to return after your visit to Spain, or are you looking at some other options to be your new base country?
Ecuador is still our home base, but we will be traveling a lot for a while. We are TH-camrs and want to show more of the popular expat destinations because a lot of people have crossed Ecuador off their list.
Do you guys think you're going to move now that that incident happened with the television station and violence is becoming a big problem there?
I'd say you picked a good time to leave Ecuador.
I don’t know where you got your internet but I am close to Malaga Centro and my internet speed is just the same as in the US 150 and sometimes even higher.
Portugal is actually known for fast internet. I live in the central coast and we have a very fast internet connection.🇵🇹
It's a good timing for you two... you don't want to be now in Quito, Guayaquil or Manta...🤫🇪🇨
Enjoy your your videos! seeing the world through your videos! Wondering what the more rural. Subberb areas are like in Spain? Less odor I hope!! Less cost, too.
Seems like a very beautiful and enchanting seaside city! Sorry I didn't have the patience to sit through this long video - I just got to the part in which you said that it had a low cost of living - but that's all relative, I suppose. Another thing, maybe the biggest thing when we're talking about the European Union, is the possibility of getting a long term visa there - not so easy in the EU...
Nice vid and good info. I started looking at Malaga several years ago. Nobody had heard of it or knew where it was. Couldn't convince the spouse at the time. Now we are ready and all I see are all the videos and posts about Malaga. Guess I will start to look elsewhere. I know you're on TH-cam to make money and fund your life. I applaud the entrepreneurship. I wish some of the places would remain unknown, however.
Hi JP...love your videos. Very good information and presented well. However, one heads up for accuracy...there is a big difference between Megabits and Megabytes. The Internet speeds you are referring to should be quoted as Megabits or Gigabits. There are 8 bits in 1 byte. I hope this helps! Take care!!!
Yes. I think you're number 32 to point that out. It was a simple mistake and I'll never get that mixed up again or the internet might break.
@@AmeliaAndJP It's the OCD in me... 🙂
Hello from Ottawa, Canada! I was wondering if you guys find the Spanish hard to understand over there. I watch Mexican and Columbian TV shows and can understand perfectly, but I find the shows from Spain harder to understand, and they seem to speak much faster than I am used to. Although it might be different when you are actually speaking to someone in person... What are your thoughts?
Spain Spanish is much harder for us than Latin America Spanish.
Hi. Things are changing here. Rents have skyrocketed in the Malaga province. Rents are extra hi for the summer season,June 1 to Sept 1. Northern Europeans come and the rents go out of control. A lot of leases run from Sept. 1 to May 31. Or you have to pay higher for those months. Malagueños are not happy about that.
Helpful advice. Thanks!
Lived in Malaga on and off for over 15 years and never noticed a strange smell in yhe city center.
Ecuador has gone to hell in a hand basket! Glad you decided to get out while the getting was good!
I'm sorry and appreciate all your really good info, but I've been told or learned from the inner web that I'm a week end worrier and would like some info for short stays?... Love your content and learn a lot! Thanks...
How do you deals with visas if staying longer than 3 months?
Time to relocate, Ecuador is collapsing. Can you get health insurance in a Spain?
Noooo it isn't.... good gravy.
@@ElizabethP505 is its all fake news? could be.
@@8ticks363 it’s not that it’s fake news, but these incidents are happening due to our new president cracking down on the gangs. It’s some bad side effects of trying to solve a bigger problem. More importantly, it amazes me when people say things like, “you got out in the nick of time!” If there was, I dunno, a mass school shooting, let’s say, in LA, which of course cause chaos, would you leave your home in San Francisco? Would you move out of the country? We love Ecuador and support the new president. Stuff happens everywhere!
FIRST, so sorry to see Ecuador falling into chaos ! Just showed on TV news in Florida, the takeover of the TV station there by an armed gang of criminals. Looks like you two WON'T be returning to Ecuador anytime soon ! AS FOR MALAGA - it looks very interesting as an option. However, since we have family in Costa Rica, that's still our 1st choice.
Not true at all@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN
I live in extreme NW France, in a farming commune/village … ADSL at 100Mbps download, 33 ish up … my partner in a small town (6000 ish) on fibre at 300ish up and down … you’ve just got to do your research
Spain is beautiful! And not too expensive. I think it’s a great option for expats.
Why "expats" if you all are inmigrants?... What's the problem to use the word "inmigrants" if you relocation to any country is attending the immigration offices in those countries?
@@juankmaney6872 what’s wrong with using the word expat ?
your internet experience is unfortunate but costa del sol has one of the fastest connections in Marbella I get now 10G bits/s thats correct 10 G at only 50 Euro
Please update us on the 60 day state of emergency in Ecuador. Does this affect you guys? Are you ok?
just a point of claification frutos secos in spanish is not dried fruit , it means nuts
Frutos = fruit. Secos = dried.
@@AmeliaAndJPthe translation is correct but it is wrong because in the Spanish language Frutos secos mean nuts to a local person and dried fruit is Frutos deshidratados.
@@shawnwright5332you must be a blast at parties. SMH.
@@shawnwright5332 It is the same in French: "Fruits secs" means nuts.
@@AmeliaAndJP "Secos" could mean that the fruits have been dried (dehydrated) or are dry ("de per se", by nature). You're taking it just in the sense of dried, but nuts are DRY fruits ( "frutos secos" in spanish )
Great timing haha you got out of Ecuador 😂
JP and Amelia- With the National Emergency Declared in Ecuador, pray for your safety and wellness!. Hope you are not hampered in providing an update
Nice! I’ve been wanting to visit Malaga 😊. See any Africans and/or African Americans?
Good luck with finding our type out there!! 😅
@@ChristopherX30 I have no idea that’s why I’m asking JP and Amelia lol
Yes. We saw lots of ethnicities from all over the world.
@@AmeliaAndJP great thanks for responding! 😊