Alex Tarasov That’s an amazing FC! GH2 is my absolute favorite in the series, and I have a long ways to go to get to a “Free Bird” FC. “Message in a Bottle” is my best GH2 FC.
Thank you Brad Yeah the old cover up half the screen trick, remember we used to do that for gh1 to simulate hyper speed? It's not a placebo. Hyperspeed makes the game easier not because the notes are coming at you faster, but because there are less notes on the screen for your brain to process. So yeah, covering up part of the screen does the part of hyperspeed that actually helps your brain without speeding up the fretboard
5:23 Well, IIDX players have been doing this way back before SUD+ was a thing. It's not a placebo, it's how much information you can process at a time, and in times with limited and/or really small selection of scrolling speeds, helped a lot to focus.
the beginning made my really sad. then the rest of the vid made me happy. god damn, dude, it's so crazy to me how you can fc songs on this engine. it kinda makes me want to go back and play gh2 again haha
Really? The jacket strats? That's a really old school tactic. Reminds me of old footage of people playing the game with big paper cutouts around the highway. Looked really silly back then, but when you're playing like that it really makes the difference.
Why do they do that i never saw it? To remove distractions or make it so your timing can only be instant and not relatively anticipated when you can see further down the highway?
The towel over the screen is actually a common technique in other rhythm games as it narrows your line of sight and allows you to process notes on an average that you're more used to. It compensates for more limited speeds.
I was wondering the same thing. I saw him not consistent strumming, and I was like, why are there little gaps in his strumming? Then I noticed he was ACTUALLY just HOPO'ing, and it blew my mind that he had that much faith in his timing instead of just going in a rhythm. What a straight madman.
@@moshimic5628 Hammer-On, Pull-Off's. The official name for the method in guitar, but in GH, it's just the white notes that you can just tap without strumming, as long as you haven't missed a note. Once you miss, you have to restrum again. But, you CAN just strum the HOPO anyway. The reason we're surprised, is that you could easily just get into an 'easier' rhythm during that section by having consistent strumming, but he's specifically segmenting himself into "1-HOPO-3-Strums" My guess is the timing window of GH2 makes it too risky to strum everything if it automatically reads him as hitting the HOPO
HOPO = acronym for hammer-ons and pull-offs If you look at the fast strumming at 1:38, you'll notice each group of four notes starts with a hopo. It used to be (and still is) common practice to strum through all of them in strumming streaks like that to keep your strum speed consistent. Putting gaps in your strumming (which Alec is doing) is much more difficult because of the timing window/strum limit. If he strums even slightly too fast while doing that, he'll miss.
I remember playing gh2 again after sometime and it felt like I had to let the notes pass after to hit them as opposed to gh3 and onwards, it felt so weird.
Before they added Sudden+ to Beatmania IIDX, my friends and I used to drape a towel over the TV when playing to cut out some of the sensory overload of all the notes. The jacket makes 100% sense.
You really have to play it for yourself. Like I said, I don’t know a lot of the technical stuff around it, but the PS2 version’s strumming is much easier than the Xbox 360 version
@@acai28 I personally didn't find any difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS2 NTSC versions, but on the PS2 you could use SwapMagic to force it to output in PAL 50 Hz, which due to some stupid way of how the game handles the different frequencies, ups the strum limit by a good 1.5 NPS, making gallops easier to do without dropping a strum, and most importantly makes Trogdor actually possible to FC.
Yo where did you get that salmon pink sweater from? I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR SO LONG AND CAN'T FIND ONE!!! I have salmon pink Vans and I NEED this sweater.
holy shit the jacket I remember back when the tech was Sticking a piece of PAPER to your screen GH2 Hyperspeed was nothing Good work dude, because I could barely even pass this back in the day
Seeing you struggle with and ultimately trounce the stuff we were all scrapping over on ScoreHero is so pleasing to my inner basement dwelling teenager. Thank you Brad, Misirlou next
Btw, pretty sure all Harmonix rhythm games are programmed so the timing windows shrink depending on how close the next note is to it. This is especially apparent in Rock Band games as slow sections have massive timing windows and speed picking sections have more standard-sized windows.
The engine differences in this game between versions are really interesting. I believe that PS2 version has tighter HOPOs and the 360 version has tighter strumming? With both the 360 and NTSC PS2 having something like a 17nps strum limit and the PAL PS2 version having a slightly higher strum limit, making Trogdor actually FCable. The strum limit and the tighter strum window of the 360 version of GH2 certainly creates the perfect storm for the faster strumming songs being a real pain in the ass.
5:22 i dunno if any IIDX/other weebshit players have told you this yet, but this tactic is actually fairly common among BEMANI players. DDR and IIDX both sometimes have a feature called SUDDEN which hides the notes onscreen until "the last second," but when this isn't an option, players will commonly drape a towel over the screen to get the same effect.
sometimes i wonder how guitar hero ever got popular with the hit window of those first 2 games (assuming gh1 was the same, never played it) thank u brad
I don’t blame you, man. That’s how I feel when I try to 5 star Visions on Expert on Rock Band 2. Pisses me off taking many tries to do it and finally getting it after. Jesus... 😒
Holy shit...the shirt thing... I haven't heard of people doing that in a loooooooong time. Pretty sure I remember people on Scorehero doing that for FCs Waaaaaaaay back in the day.
I know this is an old video but I'm poor and still play this on my brick ps2 so it teally makes me feel a lot better knowing this is troubling to FC by Acai.
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invalidated for use of third party peripherals
LOL
heck off helvian
Lmaoooo
Getting an FC is impressive. Overcoming technical limitations of an aging game is just nuts!!
much love dude ❤️ thank you
Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
Justin Y. Did you like your own comment? There’s only one like. I’ll fix that.
I finally found one of your comments before it blows up.
Preach
Acaipt**
@@potatoisgood2483 Overacai***
PERFECT PERFORMANCE FROM *AAAAAAAAAA* AT ROCK CITY THEATER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
You haven’t really fc’d something until you do it in the gh2 engine
S4 lmao
I'm pretty proud of my GH2 Free Bird FC XD
Alex Tarasov I cant even fc tripping on a hole in a paper heart.
Alex Tarasov That’s an amazing FC!
GH2 is my absolute favorite in the series, and I have a long ways to go to get to a “Free Bird” FC. “Message in a Bottle” is my best GH2 FC.
AYE WE PLAYING SIX OUT HERE BOYS
Anthony Verde It’s a hell of a song to do well on. I still haven’t 5-starred it.
-God-
-Jeesus-
-shaggy-
*_Acai_*
*shaggy*
@@kingston3616 good idea wink wink
*_Jeesus_*
Matt
@@Matthew-Wheeler well howdy there partner
Thank you Brad, very cool.
You're welcome
Thank you Brad
Yeah the old cover up half the screen trick, remember we used to do that for gh1 to simulate hyper speed? It's not a placebo. Hyperspeed makes the game easier not because the notes are coming at you faster, but because there are less notes on the screen for your brain to process. So yeah, covering up part of the screen does the part of hyperspeed that actually helps your brain without speeding up the fretboard
5:23 Well, IIDX players have been doing this way back before SUD+ was a thing. It's not a placebo, it's how much information you can process at a time, and in times with limited and/or really small selection of scrolling speeds, helped a lot to focus.
late reply but +1 for sudden+, its for when you dont want fast note speed but can't handle so much info
the beginning made my really sad. then the rest of the vid made me happy. god damn, dude, it's so crazy to me how you can fc songs on this engine. it kinda makes me want to go back and play gh2 again haha
Brown man has breakdown while streaming
*BUT RETURNS*
Thank you Brad
Really? The jacket strats? That's a really old school tactic. Reminds me of old footage of people playing the game with big paper cutouts around the highway. Looked really silly back then, but when you're playing like that it really makes the difference.
Why do they do that i never saw it? To remove distractions or make it so your timing can only be instant and not relatively anticipated when you can see further down the highway?
@Zim Babwe thank you
DO SMASH HITS TTFAF ALEC!
Ima try
The towel over the screen is actually a common technique in other rhythm games as it narrows your line of sight and allows you to process notes on an average that you're more used to. It compensates for more limited speeds.
Bruh you braver than the marines for doing this on 360. Whens misirlou on garbage engine
Thank u Brad!
Are you using hopos in the strumming? Wtf man...
I was wondering the same thing. I saw him not consistent strumming, and I was like, why are there little gaps in his strumming? Then I noticed he was ACTUALLY just HOPO'ing, and it blew my mind that he had that much faith in his timing instead of just going in a rhythm.
What a straight madman.
Wait, most people don’t use the HOPO’s? I used them on everything in GH2 except for Trogdor and that strumming bit in Jordan Solo C.
NunoVH Sorry for asking, but what’s hopos?
@@moshimic5628 Hammer-On, Pull-Off's. The official name for the method in guitar, but in GH, it's just the white notes that you can just tap without strumming, as long as you haven't missed a note. Once you miss, you have to restrum again. But, you CAN just strum the HOPO anyway.
The reason we're surprised, is that you could easily just get into an 'easier' rhythm during that section by having consistent strumming, but he's specifically segmenting himself into "1-HOPO-3-Strums"
My guess is the timing window of GH2 makes it too risky to strum everything if it automatically reads him as hitting the HOPO
HOPO = acronym for hammer-ons and pull-offs
If you look at the fast strumming at 1:38, you'll notice each group of four notes starts with a hopo. It used to be (and still is) common practice to strum through all of them in strumming streaks like that to keep your strum speed consistent. Putting gaps in your strumming (which Alec is doing) is much more difficult because of the timing window/strum limit. If he strums even slightly too fast while doing that, he'll miss.
Brown Man forced to use more than 10% of his power
You could say that he used more "brain power".
martenwulf bra-brain po-power
@@shaneyy__ ok. I'm going into maximum Over-overdrive now.
Star power
Now FC Trogdor in the same version of the game (360 NTSC) :)
Hasn't that literally never been done before in either that or PAL?
There's one reported 360 PAL FC of it, last I checked.
come up to 2+ years ago
0:42 Nasty by Polyphia is in the background!
polyphia, i see you're a man of taste as well
In the words of Origen in EU LCS:
"motivation. work. improvement. team."
Improvise. Adapt. But most importantly Jacket
yay ig heated EX DE
You’re so incredibly talented and play so smoothly. Subscribed.
Odd way of flexing the bicep muscle, but understandable
Ah yes, verbose “weird flex but okay”
Thank you brad
Hyperspeed with Hyperspeed towel 200iq
4:22 he thought he broke but didn't
What bothers me the most is that in GH2 activating SP looked like you missed a note or an overstrum. It was god awful
Did anyone else notice the glitch at 3:06?
I remember playing gh2 again after sometime and it felt like I had to let the notes pass after to hit them as opposed to gh3 and onwards, it felt so weird.
Before they added Sudden+ to Beatmania IIDX, my friends and I used to drape a towel over the TV when playing to cut out some of the sensory overload of all the notes. The jacket makes 100% sense.
How does PS2 version of GH2 differ from the 360 one?
Wondering this too
You really have to play it for yourself. Like I said, I don’t know a lot of the technical stuff around it, but the PS2 version’s strumming is much easier than the Xbox 360 version
@@acai28 I personally didn't find any difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS2 NTSC versions, but on the PS2 you could use SwapMagic to force it to output in PAL 50 Hz, which due to some stupid way of how the game handles the different frequencies, ups the strum limit by a good 1.5 NPS, making gallops easier to do without dropping a strum, and most importantly makes Trogdor actually possible to FC.
This is some really good shit with the editing. Really nice you timed the song and subtitled what you were saying
Shaggy would of made it the most possible
he would have done it one finger
@@Jireninyourrecommendations
No fingers*
@@Spoden oh shit, ur right.
Thank you heavenly jacket we couldn't have fc'ed without you
somewhere around 3:37 the video seems to desync with the sound. Maybe thats just me though
Yo where did you get that salmon pink sweater from? I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR SO LONG AND CAN'T FIND ONE!!! I have salmon pink Vans and I NEED this sweater.
Nathan Burton H&M
@@acai28 Thank you!!!
I sincerely appreciate your efforts, Bradley.
A jacket? What is this Beatmania IIDX?
holy shit the jacket
I remember back when the tech was Sticking a piece of PAPER to your screen
GH2 Hyperspeed was nothing
Good work dude, because I could barely even pass this back in the day
Top ten anime battles
Matt vs Shaggy
Polyphia in the background while you explain the strumming, nice.
all that remains is nutty tbh
Was*
Guitar hero 2: *this song*
Brown man: impressive, you made me use 10% of my power.
thank you brAd, very cool
thank you dad
Seeing you struggle with and ultimately trounce the stuff we were all scrapping over on ScoreHero is so pleasing to my inner basement dwelling teenager. Thank you Brad, Misirlou next
Nothing is impossible with God
shaggy*
Btw, pretty sure all Harmonix rhythm games are programmed so the timing windows shrink depending on how close the next note is to it. This is especially apparent in Rock Band games as slow sections have massive timing windows and speed picking sections have more standard-sized windows.
thank you brad
5 starring every song in this game is still something i’m rather proud of
Is Trogdor still impossible, though?
PostApocolyptica idk aboutb360 since it was done on simulator
No, ShunSuperstar FC'd it in 2009 on 360 and no one has since.
@@sacrilegepresentations9573 well, look at the New vid today
Brown man overcomes obstacle using jacket.
Acai> wii sports Matt
You deserved this fc. Nice job. Aight now back to clone hero.
Thank u brad
The engine differences in this game between versions are really interesting. I believe that PS2 version has tighter HOPOs and the 360 version has tighter strumming? With both the 360 and NTSC PS2 having something like a 17nps strum limit and the PAL PS2 version having a slightly higher strum limit, making Trogdor actually FCable. The strum limit and the tighter strum window of the 360 version of GH2 certainly creates the perfect storm for the faster strumming songs being a real pain in the ass.
oh you think trogdor isn't fcable on ntsc? c o m e t o t h e f u t u r e
@@DACARBOSS. The future is here, and it's *D E L U X E*
@@FlergerBergitydersh i know deluxe is out... I'm not fucking dumb
@@DACARBOSS.??? I assumed you did know, because of your message.
50 views and 84 likes
*Noice*
Noice
Okay, now this was epic. Great job, man!
Here before 1k views
Edit: I mean 100k views
Edit2: I mean 200k views ;)
Why is there a split at 3:15 like the notes swap?? 🤔
50th view 92nd like, oh yeah!
Rip to oli though he was a great guitarist, nice fc brown man
We can rebuild him. We have the technology. He is, the six million dollar acai.
He will adapt. He has the nerves.
Now you know the pain we all endured so long ago, the frontiers of GH FC’s
HOLY!... *YEAH*
4:50
Oh god the classic fret board is bringing me back.
God damn I forgot how much I love this song man.
Six is such a fantastic song, damn. And great job!
_8 months later_
thank you, brad
Thank you so much Brad for all your paychecks over the last year. I luv ya (no homo)
I Fc'ed this shit on a ps2 at the age of 14 good memories.
5:22 i dunno if any IIDX/other weebshit players have told you this yet, but this tactic is actually fairly common among BEMANI players. DDR and IIDX both sometimes have a feature called SUDDEN which hides the notes onscreen until "the last second," but when this isn't an option, players will commonly drape a towel over the screen to get the same effect.
Could someone tell me what song 5:09 is please??
Being an old-head and having this FC, I'm dumbfounded that you would struggle with this at all considering the crazy shit you do.
169420 2:35 amazing score gh2
This reminds me back in the scorehero days we used to put a towel over half the screen because hyperspeed wasn't allowed
Unrelated but imagine Goofy in the mafia
**pulls out gun**
“I’m gonna hyuck you up if you don’t skedaddle, pal.”
Whenever the fretboard shakes it makes me think he missed a note
sometimes i wonder how guitar hero ever got popular with the hit window of those first 2 games (assuming gh1 was the same, never played it)
thank u brad
The subtitles in the muted vod remind me of the music video for Everybody Hurts by REM.
This is why i felt the othe guitar hero games were easier for some reason.
Jesus you are a god to do this
thank u brad, you're a legend
Fleshgod Apocalypse: The Violation on GH2
You want pain? This here is pain.
I don’t blame you, man. That’s how I feel when I try to 5 star Visions on Expert on Rock Band 2. Pisses me off taking many tries to do it and finally getting it after. Jesus... 😒
The ff7 victory fanfare has been my ringtone for 6 years, so when I watched this at 2 am the end of the vid sent me into panic mode for a sec
Holy shit...the shirt thing... I haven't heard of people doing that in a loooooooong time. Pretty sure I remember people on Scorehero doing that for FCs Waaaaaaaay back in the day.
I know this is an old video but I'm poor and still play this on my brick ps2 so it teally makes me feel a lot better knowing this is troubling to FC by Acai.
Now that's what I call a level 100 mafia boss
And on that day. When he finally adapted and conquered the song.
His *B* enis grew 5 more inches.
3:49 VAMOS CTM, viva chile cabros
thank u brad
RIP Oli.
0:18 time to commit su- *acai* -de
When the mechanics of the old game make it harder than actual hard charts in clone hero...
I like the little voice over.
Thank you brad for this fc 👌🏻
very impressive fc brown man! GG!
The best technique to FC in Guitar Hero so far!