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- UPDATE 09/01/2015: Skylake CPUs are available now, and it looks like Intel did not change the manufacturing process of the thermal paste. Skylake still uses paste instead of solder between the IHS and die.
UPDATE 06/02/13: Haswell just launched, and this method still applies. The CPU in the video is an Ivy Bridge, but the delidding of Haswell still applies.
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Intro and background: With this generation of Intel processors, Intel decided to cut corners and use very cheap TIM (thermal interface material) between the bare CPU die and the top IHS (integrated heat spreader). Cheap TIM does not transfer heat away from the die well, that's why Ivy Bridge processor heat up very fast, especially when overclocking. With Sandy Bridge and earlier CPU's, Intel used fluxless soldering between the CPU die and the IHS, so they do not have this problem.
By taking the IHS off of Ivy Bridge processors to apply a better TIM, you can get a significant reduction in temperatures without needing additional cooling hardware. As a result from this simple mod, you may get a higher max overclock, more stable results, or reduction in fan noise for a quieter computer.
Do not try this with Sandy Bridge or earlier processor generations since they are soldered on, and much harder to remove the IHS.
INDEX
00:15 - temps before mod
02:24 - removing the IHS
10:02 - cleaning old stock thermal paste
12:56 - cleaning sealant glue
15:54 - applying new thermal paste
17:27 - installation into motherboard
20:27 - concluding temp results
As of 09/02/2015, here are some high end processors that this works on:
i7-6700k
i5-6600k
i7-4790k
i5-4690k
i7-4770k
i5-4670k
i7-3770k
i5-3570k
I don't understand the critics here. The guy is showing us that if you're careful, you CAN remove the heat spreader and NOT hurt the processor. Furthermore, he's PROVING that Intel is putting poor TIM on their processors. The shit that Intel puts on the chip runs hotter than the stuff he used on the coolest running cores! He got a 5 degree drop in temps on those coolest cores, not to mention fixing the disparity of the stock temps. Now all the cores are running the same 5 degrees cooler than Intel is giving us. This kid should be getting a medal from us, not criticism.
RMA? Since he proved to us Intel has a quality control problem, AND that they're using cheap-ass TIM, why would you roll the dice with another processor and maybe wind up with something worse? If you CAN do this, why wouldn't you, especially since you'll wind up with something better than the best quality processor that Intel can give you?
You guys criticizing him must be Intel worshipers, not just fan boys. He's offended you by showing you your god is flawed.
ladamyre1 encore! encore! well said, sir. I wish I could have just paid an extra $5 or $10 bucks for my CPU so Intel could have just used quality thermal paste to freaking begin with.
What the fuck is wrong with Intel? How could they fuck up such simple things?
rapper250
They designed it this way on purpose. I have no idea why they used this TIM, but it does make me wonder if they do it on purpose.
+NOMADSPY After 5 years I'd be wanting a new CPU anyways just to keep up with the modern speeds. I like playing my games =p
+rapper250 I think because there is no competition and because it is cheaper
iNonentity More then likely it was just a bad batch of paste as it is just a few specific chips that suffer from this problem.
Intel can control the quality of the chips themselves.. But they don't control the quality of the paste delivered to them in bulk.
iNonentity They do check the chips themselves, though it's not like they give them the massive run through we eventually do, plus it could be inconsistencies in the paste itself thus why some people never have this issue yet others do.
I've been messing around with computers since the mid 90's and I have to say - it was i real pleasure to watch your video. Very educational and simple. I can't remember the last time I made it through a 20 min "tutorial" on TH-cam. Just wanted to say, from a guy who did the very same thing [mod] with/to his old Northwoods, kudos to you :-)
Did you have a lot of gains in temps ?
man did you need some alcohol solution..
***** The heck? Where did that come from? all he said was he needed some Isypropyl alcohol. It would have helped if he had some on hand. I'm sure the guy posting the vid knew that too. Sheesh.
Molex I 100% agree. Even pro's risk cpu damage when performing a "delid". H100i by Corsair all day!
So magical Oh no he isen't using a microfiber clothe you gonna cry about that too?
Scotious Nevious no, but im gona cry about those extra e's in your comment
I don't even remember this sorry man.
You should have put the heat spreader back on properly, you use RTV sealant, which is silicon and is what Intel used to begin with. It can handle temps far greater than any cpu will create. In fact, if anyone is reading this, make sure you wash your hands before doing this, don't touch the pins or pad on your cpu, make sure you are grounded, use a new razor blade for removing the cpu heat spreader, completely clean both surfaces with 99% alcohol, remove the old silicon sealant, replace with rtv sealant (it's typically black) and use a quality thermal compound, preferably not crap mx-2, nowadays there is better out there. Once you get it all ready to go, apply the rtv then set something heavy on top of it (like a book or clothing iron) and let the rtv cure for about 6 hours, the longer the better. Just make sure whatever you set the cpu on is extremely clean. a sheet of glass would be best.
Or just not use a heatspreader, they never used em for early socket p3's and athlon/durons and we never had problems mounting directly to the die back then (well some people were dummies and damagaged/chipped the die) - or mobile processors for that matter. just make sure the hs is mounted flat and touque it up evenly and in steps.
DO NOT DO THIS LIKE HE IS DOING!
1. Don't touch the pins on your CPU
2. Don't delid unless your thermals were like his
3. Don't use Prime95 stress tester (it can literally destroy your CPU)
4. Use rubbing alcohol to clean thermal paste off of the TIM
5. Use a vice to hold the CPU while you delid it.
6. Be extremely cautious while doing this
I’ve come from the future to tell you that you did a great job for the time. Imo the vice method was better, and your cleaning metrology could have been improved, but overall damned impressive. Well done sir.
Sure ! And for this "budget" I'd say it's impressive. Just needed some basic things everybody can find in his house. Very well done =)
Last time I used a utility knife to delid a processor, it slipped and I sliced right through the tip of my finger.
Will never do that again.
yeah, was just about to write " good way to eff up your CPU and slice the shit out of a tendon at the same time".
I still have my beast of a CPU, 10 years later. It's a Core i7 3770K that ran 10 years OCed to 4,2~4,3 GHz without any trouble. I never got past 75~80°C even with intensive loads. And this last month, I had overheating issues, where I reached almost easily 85~90°C in any task, even after reverting back to full stock frequencies/voltages. Meanwhile, I touch my cooler (Noctua NH-D15) to check the temps and it never gets really hot. I'd say it's just about 30~40°C, while the CPU is clearly boiling. I've changed my thermal paste with some good fresh recently bought Thermal Grizzly, re-done it a few times (in case I screwed up application), but still the same overheating issues.
Your video is gonna help me a lot, cause I don't see any other cause right now than the internal thermal paste for the problem that I have. I'll try to delid it. I hope it will solve this ^^. Thanks a lot.
nice! just FYI for those who want to delid their 4770k, please do it very very slowly, take your time. I attempted to do this last night, i was really careful all the way until the end. I got impatient and used more force than I was supposed to and cracked the CPU Die. Needless to say I had to dish out $300 to buy another CPU -_- Hopefully you guys can avoid this mistake by learning it from my stupidity. cheers :)
Don't do this with a 5960X and possibly the K I7 as well. The IHS is soldered on and you will destroy your cpu trying this.
Cody Brown
I was talking about the 5930k. Just to update my post, both the 5930K and 5820k are soldered as well (each of the I7 processors).
Cody Brown you also wouldn't want to try this with amd processes if they were Tim and not soldered as the pins are on the cpu
+Laughing Man Productions² extreme series and xeons are not affected by this, only the consumer level chips, so 4829,4930,4960,5820,5930, and 5960x are all soldered
+Axel Shark I was planning on doind this to my 4690K, just because i do overclock :D!! But i think i dont need it at all just because mine is running at 4.7Ghz/1.295v 53c when playing games and 63c on stress :)
Clamping that down when you put it in is the only thing I'd be worried about. Seems like the perfect time to chip off a corner of the die.
Excellent video! Why companies continue to cheap out on these high end processors is beyond me.
So essentially you bought a CPU. Turns out it was defective. Rather than RMAing it, and getting it replaced, you go ahead and void teh warranty... Nice job!
What part of Intel using shitty thermal paste makes it defective? They're all like that so RMA'ing would be totally pointless. *facepalm* It's just intentionally bad design choices, aka cost cutting/customer gouging.
Chris Fetters it's got a way higher temp than the normal for this processor
Son, you've got yourself the biggest balls this planet has to offer. Although it might have worked wonderfully for you, I would not recommend doing this to any CPU, my heart just broke when I saw you taking those razors.
All these armchair experts makin me laff. His chip was well within intel spec @ stock clocks + stock voltages. RMA'ing that chip for higher-than-expected temps in synthetic applications with a mild overclock would result in his chip being sent straight back to him. His options were a) put up with it, b) take out the intel overclocking warranty then fry his chip, c) delid it. He made the right choice imo
I cant believe this.
Are you seriously telling me Intel, one of the biggest IC manufacturers in the world spend millions on R&D and sell CPUs for 100's of £/$
And then cheap out on 3 cm of thermal paste?
Seriously? And this has a huge impact on CPU running Temps.
Sounds bonkers
If they didn't do this, how do they expect to sell the next version of CPU's? Imagine someone created and unbreakable tool that never dull, blunts or breaks. If ten people want this tool, he only sells 10. However, if he makes it slightly worse, he can sell it 10 times, over and over again. He might even slightly upgrade it each time to give them incentive to buy it again.
To keep the business running they purposely make theire products fail after a certain amount of time, 5-10 years max. With proper thermal compound or cpus would last 20-30 years, the fact that they would be completely outdated and couldn't run a latest wordpad is irrelevant. I'm not just talking about intel, a lot of companies do it, it's their policy ahahah lol.
Damn capitalism :(
SupremeGamingStyle
Companies like Intel don't "purposefully design their products to fail", they design them to have a maximum MTBF. There's no reason to have a MTBF of 20+ years for a product that may be irrelevant within 5.
Theo Lubbe That's capitalism for ya. I still have a computer from 2004 which runs fine, when intel and nvidia parts fried, changed them to amd, still runs to this day, some people even use pcs as old as 1999~, it's not about being irrelevant, it's about making a product that will last u so long, you'll buy a new one when it becomes obsolete to you, and not break down in 2-5 years which is what intel wants, to push their chips. AMD is trying to take the crown by making their cpu's last, cards are just as good as far as peoples reviews go.
This video has some problems that you should consider when doing this procidment yourself:
1st: You don´t need to put the IHS back, however, by touching the cooler directly to the cpu die you CAN´T apply to much pressure.
2nd: There is too much paste on that die, tough the "line" method is the most appropriated.
3rd: put the thermal paste when the cpu is already on the socket and you have the heatsink in hands ready to install, minimize the exposure time to the air to avoid dust particles falling on it. DON´T TALK OR BREATH ON TOP OF IT LIKE THIS GUY DO! Make a final quick brush with alcohol just before applying the paste too.
The new method is the vice method. Clamp the IHS into a vice, and firmly hit the PCB with a hammer. It'll just pop off.. I greatly recommend the clamp method over the razor method, I have done it to multiple CPUs without any problems
Fuck me, I thought you were joking...
***** hehe
What type of lock do you use to hit pcb with
DjGalm We never heard of him since...
Ranstead Moons LOL
Is it better to remove the old paste with rubbing alc or just like you did with a tissue?
its better to use alcohall its wven better not not take a razor to it and let it chill at such high temps
+Anthony Najera also use coffee filters
with all my ranting i totally forgot to thank the person who made the video.
thanks man, it was a big help to see under the hood!!!!!!!!!
You know what I have never had to do on any of my AMD computers? Rip the heatspreader off, replace it with my own paste, and then fiddle with it on the board.
Now I have crushed the heck out of some AMD Athlon XP CPU's in my day...
Hmm... interesting. I noticed a large improvement with delidding my Opteron 64 X2 back in the day... and Never, ever, crushed an A XP, A MP, Duron, or Pentium 3 in the process of mounting a cooler... (all open die CPUs)
That's not something you'd do with an Intel CPU either. As he said his one was defect and what you normally do in this case is put it back in its box and ship it right back to the reseller. No need to do any mods like that on any CPU manufacturer. He's just an enthusiast.
And exactly this is why i went with a Proper CPU.. not this iGPU crap and poor Thermal Paste CPU's. Intel's i7 Extreme CPU's are soldered and therefore don't need to be opened like these..
+Kitty Cat yes lets spend a grand on a cpu ;/
5820k ftw
+Thomas Elmore No need to spend a Grand on a CPU.. the 5930k + 5820k are less than a Grand.. but if you spend money on a CPU, then do it on a CPU that is soldered, and not this garbage
+Kitty Cat logical aproach most clever people have:
get the cheapest real value cpu.
overclock it to its stable 24/7 overclock with good custom cooler, be done!
the fact that intel didn't even use proper heat paste hell even a relativly good one would have been miles better than the crap they put there tells u that they dont give a fuck about customers and cut wherever they can.
literally all he did in the video was change the heatpaste for what ,5 euros? of paste and it works as it should.
idk i just dont get it.
and i dont get why u think people should spent more money on chips that have a thermal transfer as it should be for everyone of the chips.
bluej511 Proper CPU's like the X or Enthusiast K series are already soldered.. DUH. Yeah let's buy a consumer crap chip with shitty Thermal Paste and Garbage iGPU and then Void the Warranty by delidding it. And eventually destroy the CPU in that process. "easily solder the IHS or something like that".. sure. If you're dumb enough and want to get your CPU killed.. go ahead.
the thumb nail is the best scraping tool ever created.
Remember kids, do NOT try this at home.
+Prototype868 xD
Why?
I can see myself shredding my fingers with that razor lol. But amazing results lol!
your thermal paste collection impresses me
"And by the way, I never did this before.." LOL
how many people broke therecpu by trying this lmao
***** how is it useless? freedom of speech and yes it is a true statement. I bet there are loads of people who has done his and broke there cpu.
Mark Park My CPU works fine. I removed the IHS today.
Mark Park yeah... my friend broke i7-4790k
Mark Park He just broke his processor, or atleas greatly reduced the lifespan of it, the oils from his hands are going to corrode all the resistors he just smeared.
Mark Park I argree with you. I whould send it to intel and say "fix mah shit!"
I would apply neutral adhesive, and softly clamp the CPU assembly out of the motherboard to dry for a few days. The reason being is without proper reassembly, the heat sink if bumped at any time may shift the thermal paste applied to the die, and destroy the thermal bond. It is why it is glued to begin with aside from not falling apart when it gets unboxed.
this man is so awesome he can calculate the quality and price of thermal paste from its viscosity
I have try to open my cpu with the razor but I failed. I stopped after trying during one hour and having used three blades.
The funny thing is that now, the highest temp I get at full load is 10 ° less than before (62°), is it due to little air injection inside the cpu?
My processor is i3-4330
The main problem wIth Intel using an 'inexpensive' thermal paste is the paste dries out over time, as is revealed in this delidding video. Overall thermal conductivity is dramatically reduced and causes uneven heat dispersion from the die to the spreader. This condition is also revealed in this video, as evidenced by the large temperature differences between the cores.
i wont want to risk my processor on this
That's a great decision you made. The lack of confidence has no place here.
26 to 27c. jesus i get hot at 23.
+thefilmdirector1 I get hot at 36c, I live in a very warm place :c
+angel chingon my cpy stays att 34c but ones i kind of fucked upp and presses the OC button (overclock) and im useing the stock cooler on my procesor thats known for being hot aka AMD
+swedish gaming I don't think is a good idea to overclock with the stock cooler
+thefilmdirector1 it's always here 16 - 18 deg C
+Mark Schulz IV 30~40 in Brazil, Suck it
Take care: He states that the die runs PERPENDICULAR to the lateral extensions of the heat sink of the CPU, but that's not true, its actually parallel (he shows it right and says wrong). Great Video at all.
You got mad balls dood!!! Excellent +1
I was clenching my teeth through the entire video.
At correct thickness the difference between the best and worst pastes is only a couple of degrees.
Once delidded, you'll get far better efficiency directly mounting the heatsink.
20+C difference shows that the issue isn't the quality of Intel's TIM, but that it's far too thick or there are airgaps.
DAMN ON ME !!! all that years I thought all (metal cover + CPU) is one peace , contain all complicated stuff *_* , thank you tooooooo much
next I will just open my CPU to play with :D
Do you not know how to use a syringe, bro?
Ok, this was kind of traumatic to watch.... and then I saw your results and I literally gasped out loud. This is amazing. Intel really screwed people over with their god awful thermal paste. I would pay an extra $10 for them to just put Arctic Silver on it right from the beginning.
I'm not sure that I'll do this just because of the re-installation methods, but I might one day. Great video sir.
I find it mind blowing how they sell overpriced as fuck processors and don't have the courtesy to use a decent thermal paste while they rip you off.
I tried to do what you did and accidentaly killed my dog. Instructions werent clear...
I cut off my dick ...
Makes sense because soldering makes parts become like a (conduction improving) whole, while past fills gabs in the contact between the parts but in return does form a layer in between them.
Touching the pins with your fingers reduces their conductivity
i don't think that tose cpu's have pins , only old cpu's used them
TheOfficialKiro67 In Intel CPUs the pins are in the socket, but the other part of the pins is in the CPU. In AMD it's the opposite
oh sorry , i actually tough he was talking about pins on the CPU, i jsut saw a person on 9gag did this mistake (he tought that intel cpi's have pins) and i tought
he was also talking about pins on intel CPU, my bad
***** the ones in the cpu yes
yes it does, by increasing resistance by less than 50mOhm..... LOL pins in socket are sharp because of that reason
why do you even need the heatspreader? Why not just put the cooler on directly?
My theory is that the die is very fragile, and the copper heatspreader reduces actual pressure by distributing the load on the PCB instead of the die when tightening on a heatsink, and it does what its name implies... Spreads the heat evenly to take away heat from the center before transferring it over to the heatsink.
Ah okey. So you think the pressure from the cooler directly attached to the die actually could wreck your cpu?! When it comes to cooling performance you would probably be better of without the heatspreader anyway. The heat would spread even better with the heatsink directly attached to the die I think.
I remember the Athlon XP CPUs used to chip and crack like glass at the edges if you were removing a really tight-sprung heatsink and put pressure on the corners.
You dont have to, a lot of people dont. Also make sure you use liquid metal vs paste...youll get more like 15-20 degree drops.
Pro tip: Cut into one corner, then get a small, thin plastic spudger and gently force it in the the cut. it helps keep the risk of cutting and damaging the pcb down.
Lmao all these kids upset that keem can't make videos. He is the one who fucked up doing it. Dont blame the guy who made the video
poor keemstar;(
hell yea
i dont know what i like better, the results or the excel spreadsheet.. great job on both!
Warranty voided as all hell
I don't think soo..
www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-club-guide
Take a look at the transcript.
IBIubbleTea
Thats awesome. Now I may actually consider doing this to my 3570k. Ive been having the same problem as is in the video, just not as extreme. But Core#0 is consistently 10-15C higher that the other 3.
TheDetroitSlayer Just be careful and not scratch anything.
Cut it in half: Congrats. You just made a Pentium! :D
(Sorry XD )
+MacAlister Livingston put amd in your intel socket and you get face melting stench.
+Milan Svitek STFU
fucking memer
+Woodsy CSGO ... ?
MacAlister Livingston like... What's his problem? 😮
MacAlister Livingston North America uses 120 Volts AC
From 2020. I just bought a 2013 AsRock Z77 Extreme 4 with an 3570K preinstalled (a bonus I wasn't expecting). I'm waiting for the RAM to be delivered today so I can smoke test it for the first time. This is the first system I've ever built for myself that's OC capable. I am a "power user" but not a gamer, so I don't mind using tech that's not exactly up to the minute. A byproduct of that tendency to buy cheap but good older gear is that in 2020, the above is a $50 experiment, not a $225 experiment. Or else, I may decide the stock speeds are fine: there's a red flag in my head that's telling me that just because I got myself an OC capable system doesn't mean I need to go ahead and try to boil water with it straight off the bat.
well... you must admit this guy got balls..
I've never heard of this problem before watching this video...O.o
Same here
Ignorance is bliss. 5yrs later and intel has finally fixed their issue. Also issue mainly affects overclocking chips, but not always my i7 4770 over heats playing ubisoft games.
Cool video, thanks. What are the big heatsinks, cpu and gpu ? They looks so gorgeous ^^
Wow, you used paper towels... That could leave fibres behind and mess things up.
Oh god please stop touching the CPU contacts ;-;
+Shankovich it really, really doesnt matter lmao
+Shankovich
lmao
+BahBahTheSheep Actually it does. ESD is not a joke. It could severely impact the life span of the CPU.
did you just think about what you wrote?
+BahBahTheSheep I'm not sure what you're getting at? Can't you comprehend what I wrote?
I have done some wild things in my years but never ever have I thought to myself, "I am going to take the heat spreader off my CPU" You sir have the biggest set I have ever seen!
The most interesting part of this video is how afraid he is
Shit I just did mine and I'm still scared as fuck lol it's a 350 dollar cpu and your chances to break it are very high. But the reward is lower Temps.
@Papaya Tasty being afraid to learn new things isn't a way to live life. You have to be willing to take risk at some point. I did mine and Temps dropped 5c I call that a win since I didn't use liquid metal.
It's like a good ending horror movie
Amazing.
I was sure that processor was doomed. Seeing the pcb bend under pressured cutting, undue stress for sure. However, the procedure you used did the trick. Getting the temps down 30~40 degrees on the hot cores was an amazing result.
LOL, i have a 3770k that runs at 50ºC at 4,5 GHz i think u just had bad luck and voided the guaranty doind dat.
Me too, but I don't overclock it that much
Same here with my 4670K. In my case I just apply the thermal paste like a boss and use high quality fans in push/pull. Case airflow is also just as important. My CPU cooler is xigmatek dark knight 2, nothing super fancy. It works extremely well. [Cool story bro @myself]
High Voltage eV I use a corsair 800w font with two corsair coolers and a ThermalTake case with a lot of air flow, so here in Brazil, even being hot, it runs just perfect.
Really? What fans do you have, or watercooling?
I have a Noctua D14 :D
I cant believe that actually worked....
th-cam.com/video/VWTbxH-wyFI/w-d-xo.html
LOOK THIS ONE
I don't know why so many people freaked out when he touched the pin contact points on his cpu. Honestly, I've done it plenty of times on my cpu and as long as your hands are dry and clean, it shouldn't cause any issues.
I would never dare do that to my 4930k :o
Only the 4930K?
***** how about laptop chips? my macbook is using the crystalwell processor, and it really runs hot. as far as i know, the thermal paste applied to it is insanely wrong.. been thinking of removing it and apply new ones. how about the "inner" paste like in this vid?
ah ic, thx
Fix'd with Devil's Canyon, though.
***** It is, thermals are fixed. I have a 4690k.
The whole time i was hoping, hed mess up and end up with a dead cpu, does that make me an evil person?
you REALLY need to know what your doing before you mod or tamper with ANY cpu
i asked my mum and she said it doesnt make you evil its just not a very nice thought
charles lee now u got me worried, coz moms can only be so harsh..lol
Khalid Hassan Shohag well my mum beats me if i don't fulfil gods commandments so i think your in the clear :)
There's a Devil, Deep inside you :P
Well everyone does. Even me.
Placing a thin copper shim between the processor die and heat spreader should also help improve temps by filling in the air gap
you are doing it wrong I saw guy at overclockers doing it within 5sec using hammer !!!
You can like this prank your friends who are making gaming pc switch pantium and i7 briks :DD
The bad thermal paste Intel Uses might be used intentionally for whatever, probably, marketing reason.
Your new temps are incredible.
how did the cpu live through that xD
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+Goofygiggles Simple, you litterally cut off a piece of metal, removed the old thermal paste and replaced it.
All that while being grounded.
arebokert Meh, didn't pay attention to that. :p
omg you brave brave kid.
so much for the alcohol prep cleaning theory. He doesn't use any and uses a regular paper towel (leaves fibers). He then smears his finger oils all over the heat spreader right before putting on the thermal paste (vid doesn't show it, but 99% sure he didn't wipe it down)
And with all that and sit still works way better then before :P
I'm realy pissed intel done fucked up and cheaped out on the thermal paste...
yeah... by 1 degree...
Felix St yep 1degree doesn't make much difference so why waste time. I recently fixed 3broken pin AMD fx8120 with staples pins lol works like a charm, well paid 30$. I bought the copper pipe heat sink to stable the temperature.
Hunter Chen in winter when you go outside house, you don't say it's colder than yesterday because cold is cold.
Edit: Okay I think I might do it now but this way =Oo2aFZBBJF4 , it was way to fast and he used a freaking card board on the rest of the PCB like 97% of it on card holy! :D no risk of scratch!
This is really making me wanna go pull out my 4670k and replace the TIM..... At the same time kind of scary to razor blade it and scratch the green pcb lol. Been trying to OC to 4.4 but the heat is just way too much. Even in stock + turbo Boost it goes to like 75-83+ on P95 more on IBT with air cooling :x I wished I had a Vice.....! Whats really annoying is that Intel's asking price for the high end i5 or i7 are too much. The least they could do is put a high end TIM on it or just use Fluxless solder like the Sandy's had....
yea have the same thought.
my 4670 is running stock and the temps are bonkers, i have my gpu and cpu in the same liquid cooling loop cpu running stock and gpu 33% oc, the gpu tops out at 65 degree's the cpu hits 88 after 30 min of prime 95 and hits 60-70 degree's wile gaming(not to high but imo way to frickin high for stock on liquid). time to get naked mounting and delid this sucker... once i have enough saved up to buy another in case i bork the operation :P
anub1s15 its doable :) I did mine using the same way but it took me longer to get an insertion point using a thin hard razor not the bendy one's. After that inserted a plastic card board then pulled off the rest of the epoxy, no risk of scratching the pcb at all, just don't go to far inside where the Die is situated. But the key I think is Taking your time so no massive headache at the end xD For better results you can also go and direct mount your liquid water block (EK seem to sell fixings for direct mounting) or with heat sinks but beware there will be a risk of cracking Die if you over tighten screws or if you use a heavy tower heat sink. And I dont recommend the use of liquid team or stuff like IC Diamond as they kinda react to the Die and crack it. I saw 2 chips that died and crack and users applied IC Diamond TIM. You could still use them for really good performance like CLU from coollaboratory but use it at your own risk. Either than that it really kills alot of temps, specially using those liquid metal TIM's.
Honestly, there was something fucky with your first test, you shouldn't have been at 95c on your CPU, and you shouldn't have dropped 40c just from delidding. Good tutorial though!
really i could not belive when i saw the results.. very very nice experiment indeed.. very good work..
there is a reason why intel has dust free workspaces.
LMFAO you think cause this HS? XDDDD
never.
this is like putting on a CPU cooler.
those dust free workspaces are for all the other processes you have while building a cpu, but surely not for this thing xD
ok, you guys are right :D
Think you could find a rustier razor blade? Personally, I like my jaw to lock up rock solid when I cut myself.
This was so intense! When he was putting the IHS on the dye at 18:25 my heart almost exploded from the built-up tension! Oh my god, what intenseness
You did WHAT to that CPU? *faints*
should have just run it right off the dye
The die can break easily with a massive radiator like this one if you tilt it ever so slightly. That's the main goal of the heatspread, to protect from mechanical tear.
Both de-lidding and changing out the internal thermal paste can help a chip as much as 20F-40F. It's really effective and if done correctly, cannot be damaged. Although, the only downside to this is that it voids the warantee.
Thermal paste goes on top man -.- do it
Try putting Thermal paste on your pimples.
ItzCrazeee What the hell did I just read?
Lmfao "murder." The only things you murder are the mirrors you look into with your ugly shit face. LMFAO!!!!! Your're so mad you threaten my family. HAHA You're like a skinny white piece of shit. Im soo happy you're angry right now. Lmfao This is great
evoking12345 In the USA they take shit like this very seriously you could go to jail just for saying that...
Lmfao. Aw you're getting defensive. Poor little ugly bitch. BAUAHAHAHAHA
ahh now keem cant do youtube for a week...
I understand people will say otherwise, but I would like to assure people that Intel used awesome TIM in their Haswell and Ivy Bridge CPUs. There's enough videos and posts showing this; the reason temperatures are so different is due to the fact that this is very likely a defective unit, or the heatsink/thermal paste wasn't properly applied.
That large of a temperature difference cannot be achieved by simply changing the CPU's internal TIM.
Handling cpu dies without gloves is like sex without condoms; it's unappealing.
Or you could say there's risks involved
+Don't Touch Me what is really the issue, assuming u're grounded? during the whole work process and your hands are cleaned with proper clean soap (yes there is non clean soap that intentionally leaves crap on your hands after using it)
before working on it?
its not like your working with unhealthy flux or other crap.
but please correct me if i'm wrong.
why put the heatspreader back on ? just mount the cooler directly on it , thats the whole point of removing it , its terrible and you get much better results whit mounting the cooler on the die directly
@Russell Roberts this one is copper, nickel plated
Makes no difference, and it’s safer. The heatsink wasn’t designed for direct die contact.
@@literate-aside i dont think you understand, i said THE HEAT SPREADER WAS ALREADY COPPER
Dudeeeeeeeeeee you have some serious balls trying with a CPU. Hell, when the CPU launched it was over $200 if I am not mistaken sense it has been some time (2012). And man, the risk of the oils from your hand getting on the resistors and the overall risk of fucking your CPU is real. But damn I gotta hand it do ya. You done a fine ass job with this.
And dude you touched the pins
Dare god this is nightmare for pc folks how he handling the cpu seems like rape.
No
+Chris Frog It is rape, I would NEVER do this shit, ever, specially with Skylake, skylake has a thinner PCB, you will fuck it's shit if you try to remove the heat spreader from it.
***** their is actually tools to remove it properly thats fine cost around 60 USD but this way its rape and bad that hes showing other to do this way.
I wouldn't do it anyway, the poor heat dispersion problem only seems to affect the Ivy bridge and pre-devils canyon Haswell CPU's, I have 3 devils Canyon CPU's, a G3258, an i5 4690K and a 4790k, all can be overclocked past 4.6ghz and the highest temp I've seen on any of them was 85°c on a burn in test at 4.9ghz and that was the 4790K, and that was on a 44°c day when my room A/C was off line for a regas, normally I have it at 4.8ghz and it doesn't see the high side of 60°c under load on the hottest core, I have heard of 6700K's hitting 5.1ghz with about the same temps, none of them have ever been de-lidded..
***** what Volt did you go on your skylake 6700k with 5.1ghz I currently clocked my skylake 6700k to 4.7 on all cores I had it on 4.8 on two cores
From what I read, it isn't the thermal paste that's the problem, but the glue used to hold it together. Basically, it doesn't make proper contact because of it.
Why does he care about using a thermal paste than can scratch the CPU die when he already scratched the shit out of it by using a paper towel
What the hell are you saying.... How can you scratch something, that has hardness of 6 - 7 on mohs scale, with a paper towel ?
because of the thermalpaste thats on there, it's like using sand paper...
Brian C you’re a jackass. Thermal paste is like 500,000 grit. They’re microscopic sized particles
i dont want do this. this is very dangerous fix i ever seen.
To me it doesn't seem that hard if there's nothing else to watch out for besides the die in the middle while cutting the lid off. But if CPU still has warranty I think I wouldn't do it.
pc enthusiast have been doing this for over a decade now. if done properly it can lower temperatures allowing for the cpu to run cooler and be overclocked slightly higher. worth it if you have a cpu that's starting to age, I personally wouldn't do it start out of the box..
Xmans___ oo
Thank you so much for making this video. I'm using an i7-4770K and I've noticed that there is an 8 degree difference at load between core 0 and core 3.
Cringe worthy CPU handling.
how so? he did the job perfectly. if you discharge static electricity before handling, you can fondle it however you like.
He wiped off the old TIM without using IPA.
And yet his results were spectacular.
This video made me cringe all the way through...
Is that supposed to make it less cringey?
bwahaha nice soul patch
There are capacitors there. Mostly for ripple.
Good Job This is how everyone should be then things just get fixed and no more talking about how bad things are . U cant be scared to do it yourself. My i5 3570k is running good temps at 4.7 . thanks for sharing this.
Intel chips run cooler they said? Lmao my FX4170 is overclocked to 4.7ghz and still runs cooler :L
Wow must have a good cooler im not going to bash Intel because i couldn't care less about what chip you use but this makes the fanboys eat their own shit :P
MattTheNoob94 I have a 8350 at 4.6Ghz and its 50celsius.
The performance of intels processor cant even be compared to amd -.-
I now have the AMD 9370 beauty of a processor and while i stand by i couldn't care less what you use this thing annihilates Intel's i5's and most of it's i7's and it's still cheaper.... and still runs cooler xD
Sounds awesome glad to see AMD back in the race!