The Outfoxies: The Original Super Smash Bros - Rare Obscure or Retro - Rerez
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- The Outfoxies is an obscure and mostly unknown Japanese arcade game. Beating Nintendo to the punch 5 years early, Namco released a 2D fighter that looks and feels like a 2D Super Smash Bros. Why is it so unknown? Why did it never see a console release? Is Super Smash Bros. a rip-off?
Find out in this episode of Rerez!
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Well dang, this looks pretty awesome! Never heard of it but I'll certainly give it a look now. Awesome vid.
Such a brilliant idea! Unfortunately if it came out nowadays people would only want to play on a flat stage with no items.l
Hahahahahahahaha
Puny pro players!
That Death animation of Danny and Demi would make every Moms and Dads take away their consoles 😂
And this is why I keep telling everyone (before I watched this video), that Smash bros. itself isn't a unique game. The concept and some mechanics behind it are similar to that of Outfoxies. All Stars isn't the best game, but it's unfair to say that Sony ripped off Nintendo when in actuality, Nintendo kind of ripped off Namco.
+Gaming With Balance wrong. all stars is a smash clone, and was created and developed as one. smash bros is a game that took light inspiration from another game, and was developed as its own game.
+Steve Compton Also Wrong, Smash Bros. began development without any Nintendo characters, items, complex stages, etc. It began as a single platform with a static background, and the idea that a fighting game can A) Consist of combos you create, and B) Do not need to be determined by a life bar. Later in development, they MAY have taken inspiration from outfoxies in small areas such as items, but the concept is far from inspired by it. The stages were made the way they are to take advantage of the percentage system, and offer more interesting ways to knock your opponent off the screen. it was all built around the percentage mechanic based on what seemed like the most fun. I find it highly unlikely that this game had any significant impact on the development of SSB
+Steve Compton Also Wrong, Smash Bros. began development without any Nintendo characters, items, complex stages, etc. It began as a single platform with a static background, and the idea that a fighting game can A) Consist of combos you create, and B) Do not need to be determined by a life bar. Later in development, they MAY have taken inspiration from outfoxies in small areas such as items, but the concept is far from inspired by it. The stages were made the way they are to take advantage of the percentage system, and offer more interesting ways to knock your opponent off the screen. it was all built around the percentage mechanic based on what seemed like the most fun. I find it highly unlikely that this game had any significant impact on the development of SSB
+Kimmy Jimmel Gaming with Balance is right, there is nothing wrong with a title being inspired by another.
Only overly pretentious fanboys/fangirls see this as a problem.
@@psychwardsandSCENE Smash bros is not light inspiration, it's a 2D fighter with no focus on combos, and instead on platforming and gathering helpful items.
Man! This was one rare arcade to find! But When Super Smash Bros. came out I immediatly thought back of this game, which, by the time of the very first Super Smash Bros., I still considered better.
1:52 holy chit! It sounds like they ripped off the little intro jingle at least! That sounds so much like the intro right before the announcer "SUPER SMAAASH BROTHERSSS"
I played this at galloping Ghost, and... I can say with confidence that The Outfoxies had about as much influence on Masahiro Sakurai in his prototyping of Dragon King. The man has said himself that he once ruined a man's date by utterly destroying him in the King of Fighters, and the guilt of how that felt drove him to make a fighting game with the same simple control principles he had worked on with his latest Kirby project. that's when Dragon King started taking shape as a project for the Super FX chip at Hal Labs, and just... took a while to get there thanks to having his attention split to Kirby Air Ride.
Sakurai-san IS a worldly individual who plays a metric ton of video games, and as I alluded to in my anecdote, he would indeed frequent arcades after work. there's a chance that he could have tried the Outfoxies. That being said, no stage in Super Smash Bros. on N64 is anywhere near as dynamic as the stages in Outfoxies, and it's not like Namco invented random weapon spawns for varying effectiveness around a sprawling arena.
Outfoxies did so invent random weapon spawns in a 2D platformer arena fighter, therefore smash is a total ripoff whether it was actually inspired or not, there's lots taken from here, including dynamic arenas, smash's levels being not as dynamic just means sakurai is less creative.
@@rpgfanatic9719 Please do not strawman my words; finding inspiration in your peers is a wonderful way to craft games. Heck, Ken Lobb (as stated in the documentary 'Fight On: The Killer Instinct Story' by Esteban Martinez) clearly stated that playing World Heroes and Fatal Fury Special were the two inspirations for Auto-Doubles and Ultra Combos.
is Killer instinct a ripoff of Fatal Fury? HELL NO! it's it's own thing and takes inspiration from what our peers have built upon!
@@rpgfanatic9719 It's not a total ripoff when Super Smash Bros. had its own unique style. For one characters in Super Smash Bros. actually does fight whereas in the Outfoxies they are just merely running and shooting at one another. Outfoxies is merely a 2D arena shooter rather than a 2D arena fighter. Even the final boss in the Outfoxies didn't do much but run and shoot, he used his wife and helicopter as weapons. The concept of both are similar but the more I play the Outfoxies, the less in-dept it was. Sure you do run and use hazards to your advantage in the Outfoxies but the characters in that doesn't fight with some (like John Smith) merely just pushing their opponent rather than hitting them, heck not a single one had hit each other even once and they rely on weapons to do the damage whereas with Smash Bros. you actually do had to fight and each character had their own unique moves without relying on weapons or hazards. Like what Nintendo plan from the get-go, Dragon King: The Fighting Game was just that a fighting game which used similar 2D arena like the Outfoxies but it doesn't directly copies the Outfoxies. Even if Smash Bros. had character who just shoot like Fox McCloud and Samus Aran, those characters also had moveset where they physically hit their opponents as well.
@@VOAN Outfoxies doesn't just have guns, it has melee weapons such as swords, and you can fight with fists if you don't have a weapon. Smash isn't a deep
game in the first place. You argue they are not the same because smash has slightly more involved melee combat. Talk about straw manning, you didn't tackle any of my arguments. As far as arena fighters go, smash is one of the least innovative, taking everything from this game and the 2D beatem ups before it. For comparisons sake, dissidia is a far more unique arena fighter. It has character customization that smash completely ripped off in such a bad way and a focus on aerial combat and terrain mobility that isn't seen anywhere in arena fighters ontop of the bravery system and EX system.
Pray tell why PlayStation All-stars was bashed for being like smash bros if it's such a great thing to find inspiration?
Guys, he meant the similarities in the interactive environments, obtainable weapons, and variety. Not necessarily the percentage style of health or launching players off the stage.
Rerez, thanks for another informative and great video!
I was just recently introduced to this game....and I must say it's pretty interesting. I had a very hard time when it zooms out. Even though I suck at this game...it's fun. Dweeb 4 life....he kind of reminds me Oddjob....being that he's short and hard to hit.
This game reminds me of a flash game with a similar style of playing. I believe the name of that game was Superfighters.
Exactly
Literally entered my game when I saw it.
Bandai namco entertainment should have introduced these characters in smash Bros ultimate as spirits!
so this is a pvp rolling thunder? i need to find a cabinet
An absolute like for me. Someone please help me here. I originally saw this on retroware, and loved it, but now I've come to the ACTUAL channel and...what's with the negatives? This video is well thought out, done really professional, informative, and makes really valid points. How does that equal a negative? Normally I stay pretty "happy-go-lucky," but seeing this dislike bar actually ticks me off. This video is deserving of much more praise. Period.
Your capture of the game looks really smooth, and the audio seems to work fine, too!
What emulator are you using specifically and what system is it on? I’ve tried and tried to play this game on various MAME versions on various systems, but can’t play the without issues.
What system and emulator combo would be the definitive way to play this via local-couch multiplayer? Would you know if the current Wii or WiiU emulators Run this fine? Is there a specific emulator you recommend?
Would love to get an update on my inquiry. I tried to run The Outfoxies on my OUYA via MAME4Droid, and it didn’t run properly.
Shame Namco doesn’t get the credit it deserves for inventing the platform fighter. At least they’re one co-developing the latest entrees in the platform fighting genre
What is the song that starts at 1:56 and is used at the video's closing?
great video, do one on Power Stone and Power Stone 2. Me and my brothers didn't have a N64 but we did have a dreamcast and Power Stone made for an awesome replacement for Smash Bros.
I highly doubt the twins would be a problem they could have just removed them from the game.
That is very true!
Well, I think removing a character would be unfair
Obscure, and informative. Awesome! I would love to have a shot at playing this.
fucking awesome game, I had no idea this game existed! so cool to have found this out!
You gotta play it, it's really fun! :)
Why dont games like this from Namco or other game companies for that matter get re-released on retro game packs for current gen systems? I mean I dont really need yet another compilation pack of the same old standard Namco games (Pac-Man, Galaga, etc...) I would be more encouraged to buy an arcade classics pak if it more of Namco/Sega/etc more modern-ish retro games like Rad Mobile, Dirt Dash, this game, Outrunners, Ace Driver, etc...
You know, with HD _everything_ these days, this could be ported... not directly, you'd probably have to rebuild it from the ground up or something; but now everything could still be pixel-perfect at full zoom-out. If it was on the Switch, the commercial could even say "Imitate the original release by playing in handheld mode," or something. That'd be cute...
Man games back in the 90s held nothing back on kids getting axed. D and D in Outfoxies and the two ninja girls Samurai Showdown all got the death animations.
I think the Sega Saturn & PlayStation 1 can handle this game definitely at the time though it would probably come around 1996 or 1995 maybe if they ever planned on porting it.
The PlayStation definitely couldn't at any decent speed, it wasn't particularly great at 2D. The Saturn probably could have handled it, at least with the memory expansion cart.
A remaster is needed. Pixel scaling in The Outfoxies was awful. How weird a lot of indie games use it as a selling point nowadays.
super smash bros was popular because it featured nintendo characters
Yep. Take that away, and people would likely overlook it like they did Outfoxies.
It also refined the gameplay.
For those who did not get it, you obviously just watched 1 minute of it instead of the whole 6 minutes.
Great video, Such a good arcade game!
This could’ve been ported arcade perfect to Saturn imo
The amount of bitching about this video astounds me. Your script is perfect and you bring up LEGIT comparisons. So much butthurt in the comments
Good video, but this game reminds me more of The Showdown Effect than Super Smash Bross. Like someone other said, Power Stone is the more nearest creator of the genere before Nintendo.
Before Nintendo?
Super Smash Bros - January 21, 1999
Power Stone - February 13, 1999
The platform genre did exist before SSB, but Power Stone did not beat SSB to the punch
*thing i have watched all week, a real eye opener! Very well produced as always, keep up the good work
This game looks nicely animated for such an old game :o
I loved you before you said "there's no game better than melee", but now I super love you.
Playstation All-Stars was the peak for me. Put more hours into it then with any of my Smash Bros games.
I miss playing this game so much. You can't find a rom or anything, anywhere.
You've got outfoxies, you've got me here
This actually looks like a pretty good game. I mean I don't lend much credibility to the theory, but who even cares. If that's really the case then Nintendo did it better I suppose.
Love this game. It's a shame it was never ported to home consoles or computers, as it would have been a classic I'm sure.
And, now, they're all in the Namco Vault. Think Disney Vault mixed with The Happiness Hotel and the orphanage from Annie.
Make an Outfoxies Mode for Smash 4, Namco and Sakurai-san!
Oh wait, there is one...
magnumvanisher
What do you mean?
@@IkeOkerekeNews Stamina Mode with Items on.
@@magnumvanisher
Nice.
Is your shirt from the game video game store featured in the "Game Chasers"?, that episode wer they arm wrestled.
Yup, I go there every time I'm in the area.
I loved this game man. I used to play it in an arcade/pizza place at Atsugi, Japan back when I was a kid.
Hi I cannot find a decent working mame rom...I downloaded on my Pandora box but it is too slow and unplayable😭
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE SEVEN.
HAHA THERES A BOX OF TISSUES RIGHT NEXT TO HIS COMPUTER!!!! THAT MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD!!!! I'm sure its so funny when hes's surfing the internet and suddenly.......... Gets a cold........ Or something else
Or I was cleaning the popcorn machine to the right with the tissues before shooting this video. Seriously dude. :P
That....... Could also work I guess....
I got the original jamma board of the outfoxies and that game is sick really there's no games around so cool
0:10 sounds like Skream's Midnight Request Line
He totally sounds like a voice for a pbs documenatry
Wow this is nothing like smash brothers at all. The original part of smash is the percentile damage.
thanks for repping!
Great review man👍👍
Namco should have sued Nintendo for making bank from this playstyle.
Technically, Nintendo and bandai/Namco are buddies now.
Man, you need more subscribers
The gameplay reminds me of Dreammix TV World Fighters
I like brawl better
Tried Megabyte Punch?
No I haven't! How is it?
The gameplay core is basically Smash. And then you play as a robot that you customize with parts you find throughout its game world, which changes your special attacks and other stats.
As a fan of Smash, I found it really fun and well made.
Damnit, I think I'm getting outfoxxed...
In as much as there would be no Halo without Wolfenstein? Yeah
The difference between this and smash bros is that you can actually fall off the stage and it added the percentile system. It also had 4 player battle royale and items that weren't just guns and bazookas but pokeballs, mushrooms, star, etc. The characters were taken from different IPs and all the characters had unique movesets ( like recovery's and special moves). I can't really see why it's the same, perhaps because the stages had platforms? Well, just putting my 2 cents.
bryanpein
It's a much slower version of Smash Bros.
bryanpein You can fall off one of the stages. The similarities is the scale of it, & the fact that they are both Platform fighters, as well as some mechanics. The percentile system, increased number of players, & the fact that its a crossover are the only differences. Most fighting games have different ways of play but are also similar in nature. That's why Outfoxies & Smash are similar. Also, of course Outfoxies & Smash will have differences, because they weren't released in the same era. It's like comparing Street Fighter with King Of Fighters. You understand?
You got a sub! Awesome video :D
You have earned yourself a subscriber
A game so good that its music will get you a copyright strike on your account.
Bandai Namco did this? Well, I'll be.
I don't see the resemblance
awesome, will do.
Very cool video.
John Smith? The Doctor?
i really love this game when i was kid
exactly
Hi I need a working mame rom..
Someone can help me?!
Cool vid dude. Got 1 more subscriber
I grew up on melee
What about Nekketsu Kakutō Densetsu for famicom? It's rather smash brosy.
Yeah, lots of people might have been sad to see two 11-year-old twins die in that manner.
the death sound is kinda creepy
super smash on game cube is still the better one in 2020
This is NOTHING like fighting games
it's literally a platform fighting game, like Smash Bros
whether we like it or not
super smash is just sumo wrestling..
And this is why i love rerez, this is the most interesting thkng
Interesting...
the only ppl pissed on this thread are nintendo fanboys." oh plz dont compare my golden chalice of a smash brothers game to this 2D prehistoric relic." fuck fanboyism. oh and the original part of Smash bros was NOT percentile damage becuz that just acts as a stamina bar which has been done many times b4. no the original part was the huge stages and items with fighting mixed with platforming. oh wait Outfoxies did it first
I'll take Outfoxies over Super Smash any day.
I have to say, the way those twins died was pretty upsetting. Maybe it's because I work with kids, but either way, I'll pass on this one.
I have to say, grow a pair. Maybe it’s because you have noodle for spine, but either way, no one cares that you’d pass on this one.
Someone tell me they emulated this, if so, can someone send me a link to a website to download it. EXCEPT COOLROM, I HATE COOLROM
Drew Armstrong, The Glorious Lobster Emperor Emuparaside
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I suppose...But Emuparaside is sooooo annoying to download...
Coolrom ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Loooominartian Spittin Fightin Skateboardin Schmugh
OK...
Drew Armstrong, The Glorious Lobster Emperor or better yot , DARUDE SANDSTORM !
0:47
I think you should have used a different game. PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale is a good, fun game that has some unique features that made it different from Super Smash Bros. and that's not a bad thing. It wasn't trying to be Smash Bros., it was its own game.
There is a rumor that many employees left Namco and went to Nintendo between the release of Outfoxies and Super Smash Bros. Did former Namco developers bring the fighting game idea with them? Who knows?
Deacon Cole the first Smash was literally just a side project Sakurai did in his spare time. It barely had a budget and it wasn't taken seriously during development since fighting games weren't selling well at the time.
Haci que Mario peleas no es el original...
PlayStation All Stars was inspired by Tekken and Street Fighter and not Smash Bros. Its already made clear if you see the game play of it. At some point it was even inspired by PowerStone.
And that's why PSASBR is not a copy of smash but smash is copy, even tought if it would be a smash copy, PSASBR would be a coy of a copy wich does not make sense since you cannot copy a copy but you're copiyng the original material so PSASBR would more like a copy of The Outfoxis rather than a copy of Smash....
*MIND BLOW*
outfoxies ---> pvp (fighting game)
super smash bros --> free for all (fighting game)
And? im using every nintendo fanboy logic they see four players on a platforming scrreen fighting each other and they'll say automaticly that is a smash bros copy.
Free for all and PVP are one in the same since you're fighting against another player. Nice try.
Sorry good sir, but I really can't see the game play comparisons, and I doubt active environment really is something worth comparing, is not even a game play element, just level design.
Definitely an inspiration for smash. This game deserves more attention
The title lead me to believe it would talk about the percentage based damage style or the knock-your-foe-off-the-screen way to kill them. Nope it's all about items.
*Blip*
So?
The best game that emulated Smash Bros. in my opinion (and the only one besides SB that i keep coming back over and over again) is Battle Stadium D.O.N., for PS2 and Gamecube. It has what makes Smash Bros Great: every character has a unique style that suits its personality (as we know from the source material), with a huge variety of moves and combos while make a balanced contend. Battle Stadium as well as Smash Bros., looks like were made by fans with money.
Correction, Smash Bros emulated it. Lol. Outfoxies was out before Smash.
llol
It's not a ripoff, Maybe they borrowed alot of ideas from the game. But no way is it a ripoff. There's no such thing as a original ideas anymore.
Original ideas come from inspiration
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ALL COPY COPY COPY
This is so poorly written. I can't even get past the scripting to care about the theory.
mayLAY 0:44