Thanks for posting this - we were car 189, our first ever event, sadly didn’t make it to the top of Simms but cleared all the other hills. Huge thanks to the marshals and all at MCC for putting on a great event. And of course thank you to all the spectators who braved the cold to watch - at least we had a heater in the car. 🥶
You’re welcome! We’ve been coming for years and absolutely love it. You are all a bit mad but keep up the good work and there’s always next time for Simms!
@@relentlessduckproductions8779 might have to do that. Out of curiosity, is any 2WD open diff car allowed (with the correct tyres)? As I said, haven’t watched it since it was on TV in the 80’s 😂
The regs are quite detailed on tyre choices, open diffs, etc. Take a look at the Motorcycling Club website for the full details it makes for fascinating reading
I have one and never got stuck in the mud. Almost all of those who got a hard time climbing was because the driver kept the wheel spinning after loosing grip.
@fishshipempoyee1273 My first car in '88 was a '72 1200, I also worked as a tractor driver in orchards, I took my Beetle in them orchards, and razzed around in the mud occasionally 😅, i never got stuck either. 6 yrs later I was living in a VW Bay panel van,parking on the top of a pebble bank at the beach ,the amount of cars that tried driving up and got stuck was hilarious, even 4x4 's ,always giving it too much welly and digging in 😂 .
@OcaroPineappl9033 black round things that go on wheels. It's how it's spelled in English. I believe Mercans got tired of spelling like that, so they spell it some other way. ;)
Fantastic! It's easy to see why the bugs were popular in Baja back in the day! Very capable with just a little modification. And the dune buggy restarting almost mid-hill and still making it, just gold.
classic example of 'the photo doesn't show how steep it is' - I'm a believer in that. The cars are sliding back down with all 4 wheels locked. If I were at the drawing board, I'd be trying to come up with a drivetrain that would detect slipping and respond with an instant reduction in wheel rpm, and I'd also try a suspension geometry that would move the whole wheel assembly forward (or backward?) or even laterally (probably inward for more weight) to see if that might help. Also, an instant reduction in air pressure in the tire might help. Needed would be a mechanism to return the pressure as soon as traction is regained. Could each wheel get a weight to accelerate up or down for traction.... I knew a guy back in the day who rigged cat litter feeds to each tire, big hopper in each fender and a cable pull system, for dealing with snow. We were skiers and nothing was going to stop us from reaching the ski hills when we wanted it. It absolutely worked, got us past all manner of other vehicles. Train engineers used to feed tiny amounts of sand to the rails just in front of engine wheels for grades on which overloaded trains couldn't get going because the drive wheels would just uselessly spin.
I’d love it if they had a sticker or graphic stating the tires being used. It seems to be a major factor as the bugs do well or fail like others I don’t think every case is driver error.
since its open diffs only is it allowed in the rules to yank up the hand brake to provide resistance to the free spinning wheel and possibly send some drive to the non spinning wheel when they are slowing to a stop?
@@relentlessduckproductions8779 I can understand no mud tires but a all-season tire would be OK wouldn't it? The tires on most of the cars are smoothies, no wonder they couldn't get up the hill. One clarification: If the differential is limited to being of the 'open' design, then you don't have 2wd. If the vehicle can be purchased w/ a limited-slip, why couldn't that car participate? It's OEM! Oh well, not important, enjoyed the video. The motorcycles ruled the hill, yea!!
First time watching a video like this well apparently this is for a two-wheel drive most with limited slip don't really see much of a challenge for the motorcycles I'm guessing something four-wheel drive are that's had its engine modified are qualified for this considering I could probably get up this in my 02 Dodge Dakota four-wheel drive but the thrill of trying to get up it seems to be somewhat enticing it would probably be an event I would enjoy after a couple beers
@@folgloretv hi there - it’s because the origin of the trial (early 20th century) predates 4x4 vehicles so to preserve the challenge the regulations do not permit. If 4x4 vehicles were allowed it would be easy! Thanks for asking
Loved it. What a good crowd , and the marshals must have special insurance policies.... thanks for this. All the best Keith
Thanks for posting this - we were car 189, our first ever event, sadly didn’t make it to the top of Simms but cleared all the other hills. Huge thanks to the marshals and all at MCC for putting on a great event. And of course thank you to all the spectators who braved the cold to watch - at least we had a heater in the car. 🥶
You’re welcome! We’ve been coming for years and absolutely love it. You are all a bit mad but keep up the good work and there’s always next time for Simms!
Brilliant video! Haven’t watched these hillclimbs for years 👍
Nothing like seeing it for real, get yourself down there for next year!
@@relentlessduckproductions8779 might have to do that. Out of curiosity, is any 2WD open diff car allowed (with the correct tyres)?
As I said, haven’t watched it since it was on TV in the 80’s 😂
The regs are quite detailed on tyre choices, open diffs, etc. Take a look at the Motorcycling Club website for the full details it makes for fascinating reading
@@relentlessduckproductions8779 thanks 👍
The vw bugs are perfect for hill climbs . The weight of the engine over the drive axle .
I have one and never got stuck in the mud. Almost all of those who got a hard time climbing was because the driver kept the wheel spinning after loosing grip.
@fishshipempoyee1273 My first car in '88 was a '72 1200, I also worked as a tractor driver in orchards, I took my Beetle in them orchards, and razzed around in the mud occasionally 😅, i never got stuck either. 6 yrs later I was living in a VW Bay panel van,parking on the top of a pebble bank at the beach ,the amount of cars that tried driving up and got stuck was hilarious, even 4x4 's ,always giving it too much welly and digging in 😂 .
No lift kits, no full mud tyres, no expensive suspension mods just cheap cars and lots of fun (and skill)
Wtf is a tyre?
@OcaroPineappl9033 black round things that go on wheels. It's how it's spelled in English. I believe Mercans got tired of spelling like that, so they spell it some other way. ;)
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@@ØÇÅRØPÎÑĒÅPPLĒ9033it’s also a place on the coast of Syria
This looks like good fun.
Hello from France, FANTASTIC & INCREDIBLE .So many beautiful cars.
@@isaneterrier6678 Merci
That Honda Passport getting the Fred Flintstone assist - many times I've hopped off my CT90 and trotted alongside it on long steep hills.
Haha I love the energy of the crowd here, couldn't imagine how fun this was to see in person!
Greetings,
As always another brilliant detailed video production 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸
Keep producing more videos.
For me, this is the most exciting motorsport to both watch and to compete in.
Really ? ... that's was was of the most boring motorsport videos i have ever watched ..
That ain't Motorsport, just idiots wrecking theyr cars.
So love your sharing!!! 😍😍Great sharing! my dear friend~ have a beautiful weekend!!
Bloody sight more interesting and fun than F1
Fantastic! It's easy to see why the bugs were popular in Baja back in the day! Very capable with just a little modification. And the dune buggy restarting almost mid-hill and still making it, just gold.
And those spectators were so polite and generous.
The peoples cars seem to do really well
They are good in the snow as well.
Exactly 💯
Weight on the rear axel more tractions simple.
@@slowstang88 a couple of them have swooped in Subaru boxer engines which helps a bit
The side car was savage. We've seen the cub take James May through Vietnam, so naturally I had no doubts it could handle this.
Some great runs there.. really clean by the red Imp and the blue TR!
This is a nice Video, thank you very much 😊.
A commercial for the old Type 1, VW Beetles !
As well as the old "Type 1" 1930s MG Midgets!
Rapturous! The only hill climbs I want to watch are these
Hard to see how anything 2wd is getting up there! Although the two guys in the Caterham looking thing did ! props!
Thanks for this it was awesome 🤙
as usual the cars based on VW beetle run it. The combination of big 15" wheels and good weight balance between rear and front is very helpful
I'd love to know what the engines are in some of those VW/ VW based cars are. The Fugitive definitely had something spicy in it.
Range rover my arse. Those Beetles are the dogs bolloks.
Scooter guy is the winner, this is freaking awesome
So Much Win!
(I shall endeavvour to persuade my significnt other to partake upin this Vid tomorrow, just after we vote...
The Volkswagon Beetles did well , no trouble to them.
Sterling effort from the 2 door Avenger....!
That will be Mr Keat and his legendary Hillman Avenger, that thing is witchcraft! 👍
Yes, one careful owner from new, never raced or rallied….
🐝🏁 Great video 💯 👍 👌 thanks for sharing 👊
Nice job to editing for making a yt vid that’s hard to do a 10 sec skip ahead like most of off-roading competitions
Much better than F1
..Bunch of idiots ruining old cars- no comment..🤦🏻♂️
My kind of motorsport!
classic example of 'the photo doesn't show how steep it is' - I'm a believer in that. The cars are sliding back down with all 4 wheels locked. If I were at the drawing board, I'd be trying to come up with a drivetrain that would detect slipping and respond with an instant reduction in wheel rpm, and I'd also try a suspension geometry that would move the whole wheel assembly forward (or backward?) or even laterally (probably inward for more weight) to see if that might help. Also, an instant reduction in air pressure in the tire might help. Needed would be a mechanism to return the pressure as soon as traction is regained.
Could each wheel get a weight to accelerate up or down for traction....
I knew a guy back in the day who rigged cat litter feeds to each tire, big hopper in each fender and a cable pull system, for dealing with snow. We were skiers and nothing was going to stop us from reaching the ski hills when we wanted it. It absolutely worked, got us past all manner of other vehicles. Train engineers used to feed tiny amounts of sand to the rails just in front of engine wheels for grades on which overloaded trains couldn't get going because the drive wheels would just uselessly spin.
Seems like the idea of the event was to have fun not to get an engineering degree.
Now I just need Klaperjaht 2024 and i'll have my muddy offroad 2024 season in the bag.
It's crazy how certain cars are really not suited for this while others are uncannily totally up for the task
Awesome! Is there a reciprical downhill Barbie Jeep race? 😁
Bravo, the Imp was impressive! Interesting that the mk1 golf showed what’s possible with a small light fwd car……
Once you have momentum, change up the box .
19:25 fingers!!🫣
Scary!!
Saw that too 😮
Great stuff! It always makes me laugh seeing people 'racking' the steering to try and get more grip from a rear wheel drive car!
Maybe they are avoiding the obstacles?
@@maikelnait4495 Nah.. guy in a beetle around 17:30
I’d love it if they had a sticker or graphic stating the tires being used. It seems to be a major factor as the bugs do well or fail like others I don’t think every case is driver error.
@@Maybe-You-Know-Me-Not strictly road tyres by regulation
Bouncy-bois made it! Thrashing the steering wheel does nothing.
since its open diffs only is it allowed in the rules to yank up the hand brake to provide resistance to the free spinning wheel and possibly send some drive to the non spinning wheel when they are slowing to a stop?
I dont see why not
Yeah, but most of these engines seemed to be struggling with the job already.
@@schnitzelburgersgarage5 I think grip was a bigger problem
Is it open diffs only, or can it be some % locking on the axle?
Open diffs. Take a look at the regs on The Motor Cycling Club, makes for interesting reading!
@@relentlessduckproductions8779 and stock tires too? and 2wd
@@goldenwr6254yeah tyres are controlled, so nothing off-road and they are all 2wd 🛞🛞
@@relentlessduckproductions8779 Wow, so not even all-season tires? Just summer tires...or?
@@relentlessduckproductions8779 I can understand no mud tires but a all-season tire would be OK wouldn't it? The tires on most of the cars are smoothies, no wonder they couldn't get up the hill. One clarification: If the differential is limited to being of the 'open' design, then you don't have 2wd. If the vehicle can be purchased w/ a limited-slip, why couldn't that car participate? It's OEM! Oh well, not important, enjoyed the video. The motorcycles ruled the hill, yea!!
So that's where all the old TR7s went.
Idk wtf is this but looks fun
If I learned anything from this video, it’s to just go get a VW bug & have fun going places that other off-road cars can’t go.
What exactly makes old beetles so good at off-roading?
Kein Problem für den guten alten ❤️VW-Käfer❤️☝️...........🇩🇪🫡🇩🇪
Well Volkswagen was good enough for Rommel in the Desert so its also fine here :-)
Most of those cars I would only drive on sunny weekends.
What is this? Is 2x4 only part of it? I know of motorcycle trials but this is cars?
Whatever it is, it’s pretty cool!
@@Aux1Dub The Exeter Trial - run by the Motorcycle Club
09:24 - the goat, top[ tier bouncing
What car was at 6:05? I didn't recognize that one.
Funny moments... I like that 😂😂😂
What.???? The bugs do great!!!!!!. Maybe because the engine is at the back. Heavier at the back.👊
Yes. They are great!
Mmm and some have swopped out the air cooled vw engine for a Subaru unit….!
is it only for GB residentals ?
The old makes the diference clearly! 3/4 of the olds climb up the muddy path.
does the Skoda from the beginning of the video have welded or limited slip differecial? Both wheels are burning.
Sometimes even open differentials will spin both tires if the grip is equal on both sides. It could have had a welded diff though.
@@JakubKlubkoSmejkal welded diffs not allowed
Que evento legal , qual país foi realizado????
England
Momentum is the key
Why not go up backwards in a FWD car? Same physics as a VW Beetle at that point. It works, I've tried it.
@@MrSpartanPaul I don’t think the rules would allow reversing up the course
@@relentlessduckproductions8779 That's silly
It works for short distances only. You'd get pinched against the bank before getting very far.
First time watching a video like this well apparently this is for a two-wheel drive most with limited slip don't really see much of a challenge for the motorcycles I'm guessing something four-wheel drive are that's had its engine modified are qualified for this considering I could probably get up this in my 02 Dodge Dakota four-wheel drive but the thrill of trying to get up it seems to be somewhat enticing it would probably be an event I would enjoy after a couple beers
Wonderfull morgan,pretty.
Seems none of the vehicles had 4wd or the proper tires... Was there some type of rule against that?
@@Universal.G yep, regs say 2nd and road tyres
❤ Q Biennnnn GENIAL !!!..🇺🇾🎂💐🌹🎼🎧⚽️😊
Folkswagen это немецкий легковой трактор 🚜 ! На 100 % уверен , что и наш Запик лицом в грязь не ударил бы! 😉
How old must the car be
nice burnouts
im honestly surprised the bug didnt make it... lower the tire pressure a bit and it'd do it.
8:30 to slow
Why any of those rear-wheel drive cars even attempted it is a mystery.
Most rear wheel driven cars did better than the fwd nissan micra
love it
19:20 dude trying his hardest to get rid of those pesky fingers
The C90 🛵♥️
Esses fusca aí é original os motorista que é mexido 😂
Nice 👍
Are they only allowed to use none road legal tyres, most looked nearly bald of tread even the bikes.
That's what I was thinking and if they were allowed to use paddle tires, I 'd bet most all of the cars would have made it to the top.
@@DelDredd yep Road tyres only
Wow 🎉
Excellent hill climb, looks like they need to use paddle tyres
PARABENS ESSE PRESIDIO E ASSIM QUE TEM QUE ACHIR
Fiat Panda 4x4 would be good at this.
Ich hatte früher einen Volkswagen, der ist für steile Steigungen mit schlechter Strasse ideal!
Só podia ser na Inglaterra ❤.
why are there no 4x4 vehicles?
@@folgloretv hi there - it’s because the origin of the trial (early 20th century) predates 4x4 vehicles so to preserve the challenge the regulations do not permit. If 4x4 vehicles were allowed it would be easy! Thanks for asking
The bugs have diff locks.
Are you sure? I thought bugs were a transaxle......
what Skoda is that at 0:44 ?
@@123Nuk123 130 Estelle
Los bochos son los mejores ✌🏼
Wich country ?
@@polacoevolution UK
@@relentlessduckproductions8779
How old is that trail? That would have been quite a climb for horse and wagon.
Vw frog is congquer 👍
And then came a CR500….
Honda super cub 50🫡💪💪
whyd we watch the peugeot in slow motion?? 🤣
Dont call em devon dumplings for nothing 😂😂😂
Take those slick damn street tires off and put on some snow tires!
@@nigel900 against regulations unfortunately
Weight is the enemy
And where you put what weight you have/allowed to have seems to be the key.
No, ascending a muddy trail is! Plus the tires need to be more aggressive, to many cars w/ smoothies.
VW Käfer, the best!
22:37
🎧 Show!!!
6:15 mais louco que o Batman sem capa...
well OI thought yer American, then I saw the club lawyers, fine job.....