Should You Go To School for Audio Engineering? (in 2023)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2022
- 🎛 The question anyone who starts to pursue Audio Engineering on a serious level, is this…
🤔 “Should I go to school for Audio Engineering?”
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i did, learned a lot more when I got out of school tho. they gave me the basics and guidance that i needed but the debt ain’t worth it. The internet is the #1 tool we have at our fingertips
Great insight here! 🙌🏼
Thanks for taking the time to share with the community. I've heard this from every mentor of mine who went this route as well.
Agreed. Facts
But the degree is what gets you work . Cant say your an engineer without your papers to prove it to a company
@@dylanvandenberg2109 skills is better papers ain't it?
@@kriss_kruzz they go hand in hand
I’m glad I went, it introduced me to many other paths in entertainment besides music… I got my bachelor’s on campus and my masters online at the same school. I promise you all there are so much things I’ve learned in college that you will not find on the internet… 👍🏽
What school did you go to? I’m researching for my son. Thank you
How much did it cost?
I'm a vocal artist, started recording March last year. I have 27 pieces on Spotify, You Tube and and all the leading Digital platforms. I've started with Christian Classics. My brand or style is " The Praise Pilgrim". I own my own label and am self plublushed through the leading independent artist platforms. My area of expertise is law, Incuding inteekectual property law. I want to learn to record, mix and master my own music. I need the creative freedom of not having to be constrained by the hourly rate what never I'm in studio. I wish to produce a lot more music in my own studio. So yeah there it is. Would appreciate any guidance on way foward. Thanks for being there. Would like to know more about your offering and terms. Cheers.
@katarinasimeone1358 it is such a gimick. If your son can focus on studying Music theory, sound design, sound synthesis, and studying a DAW, THEN invest in an education for him.. It is seriously all online, for free.. the o ly thing that will stop him, if he wants it, is himself. The fundamentals are extremely important, which is basically math and music theory. The rest comes with hands on..
But again, if someone is going to make it, they will make it happen..
@@rhinoskin7550 what someone should or shouldn't do is the worst advice to tell anyone needing guidance. Instead, I relay my experience and knowledge as an example so the choice is theirs.
As a pro audio engineer with major industry experience and a music business expert, who’s gained knowledge from college as well as the internet. I can without a doubt again tell you over half of what I've learned in college isn't available on the internet 👍🏽.
Because of this, I'm not the one being robbed of buying “templates”, “processing chains”, and “master classes” from people who know there's a market for green people to falsely advertise to and take advantage of on the INTERNET.
I am a sound engineer for my church it started out just turning on the mic's and guitars to learning more and gain more and more interested in it everyday I feel like I want to persue it more but maybe for fun as i.m already in college.
Great video! I am in between choices 2 and 3 right now. I want to keep my training very specific to voice over so I can dial in on making my audio better. I am older, though, and have already been through school, so I guess I am more interested in the no fluff or extras approach at this point. Thank you so much for the video! Fabulous perspective! 🙂
i did the thing you suggested at the end, studying online and studying specific sounds of engineers, and honestly just this year after over half a decade, i now can hear the different settingg on compressors attack and release times which before i would just dial in randomly without hearing cause it was hard to notice, and also 1db of eq changed are now very apparent, and it took me 7 years of mixing, producing, writing my own music almost everyother day, the school helped give me topics to study
wha channels helped with tha?
Thank You, Very Much for making such a great video. And, I love music. And, I believe I want to become an Audio Engineer in a studio. Lastly, doing freelancing work. Thanks Again !!!
This was really helpful thank you !
as you said the most important stuff is the connections u get there, I wasn't at an audio school but I know a lot of people going to SAE here in Germany and they where like they didn't learn anything special there. BUT u have access to superior gear like an SSL Console and mics and stuff like that (wich can be a huge game changer if u can test everything in and out before u buy it) and u can actually take ur own songs recorded at home and polish them there :D. And to take the SAE as example u learn a lot of other stuff that aint music wich some people aren't really interested in. I mean if ur 100% only into music but have to learn month of video cutting or stuff like that u know.. good thing here in Germany is with some tricks u can get those engineer school shit for free. My thoughts on this, its cool to go there but if u are really interested in music and keep learning / watching videos / reading books / being active in forums & other communities u are good to go. maybe search ur self a mentor and thats it. cool channel keep it up brah
solid comment mate 100% agree w you,, i have to ask though... is fatalis your real name? thats so fucking dope if it is holy shit
@@Blue_708 no its not, it was my artist Name a while ago..
Sincerely helpful! Thank you .
im watching to this to see if me dropping out after 2 years mid covid of going to school was a good idea, and honestly i went in knowingh alot more than others, some didnt know anything so the first year and a half was beginner stuff which i was bored with kind of, but i still did good, and then i covid hit during the second half of the course and i just couldnt find the interest no more, honestly i learned more from twitch streams at home and watching zoom lessons, it was honestly fucked up how i signed up for a school just to end up watching content on my pc the same way ive been doing for the last 7 years, main thing id suggest a school, is that it helped me elarn the stupid shit i wanted to know but couldnt bother researching, like consoles, analog hardware, physics, microphones and their different kinds,
This video was very very helpful. Do you have a video about how to go about opening your own studio? Thats my dream…
I have been a full time live engineer for 15 years. I graduated from an audio school years ago.
I'd love to find something like continuing education in other professions, a course the is advanced level stuff taught specifically for people who have been at it a long time who might just want a refresher course or to find where their bad habits are and make themselves better engineers.
Valuable info thanks a lot
The questions we choose to ask ourselves are very important
I’m in a situation where I can get school paid for but having done many schools in life I know they fluff up a lot of material and I’m not looking to waste time doing things that aren’t important in the long run. I’m leaning towards getting a certification that way I can learn the nuts and bolts to get my feet wet then continue to learn with online paid courses.
Right I'm considering going to college for it but, I'm going to read something on music theory before hand so, we will see
aspiring audio engineer from south carolina here! do you have any key advice you’d give someone wanting to go into the field?
Don’t waste your time in audio school. If you wanna go to school, get a business degree.
You can learn the ways of audio by paying so many other folks, to teach you one on one or not contributing to channels such as this one !!
Thank you for this video
elaborate
@@Prestonocean049don’t get ripped off basically
Let me know when your course drops I could see your genuine but right now in life I’m in a low spot man and music has always been the thing I’ve done and always came back to when I’m in a low spot please let me know
I am just beginning to get into dj'ing and I want to have solid foundation to grow from so I'm considering the audio engineering school
130,000 dollars for an audio degree? You can get an audio associates degree from Point Blank / Middlesex University in the UK online for around 10k us dollars. That's insane you guys in the states pay so much. And that UK associates is offered in the US as well now!
Hey man can you make a tutorial how to mix 2 Lead Vocal artist with different chain in one song.
I am trying to find a mentor.
Taught myself how to produce, and I’ve been making underground music for a few years now went to community college but i basically learned everything I already knew.
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Thank you for the love Jess! 🙌
I'm happy to hear that the trainings have been helpful. Excited to continue to bring more value to your process in the future!
@@MyAudioAcademy 😉🙏
What are online classes that you recommend?
Might look into the 1on1 thing….
Audio school is just glorified physics along with how to track and record in a studio IMO. I can learn how to use most boards, all types of dynamics processors, and get a general workflow from my own research through books and masterclasses. Fifty thousand dollars could buy me a studio for twelve thousand dollars, and I can rent it out for experience with working alongside artists. The only benefit to an audio university for most these days is a focused intensive fast track to the big rig setups in todays world.
I enrolled in another faculty in my university mainly for job security, but the passion for audio and music is gonna lead me to places that audio engineering school isn’t going to help majorly with. I won’t be able to ever get a job at a major studio without a degree, but most audio engineers with one these days aren’t able to either😅
Some stores also allow people to rent out studio equipment to try out, so I have access to those rentals to see if I like the sound and utility of the gear before a purchase. With proper research it’ll be so simple narrowing down what I actually need. Plus there are many staples to a studio that I noticed after a few years which I know I need to acquire to be competitive as a engineer.
A big part of audio engineering is the physics and musical theory of sound. Luckily most universities offer courses on those subjects to all students, so in my case I can just take those courses as electives, and take the knowledge from there into my own learning online. And there’s so much material online that once anyone has been learning for a while, they’re able to tell what is useful information and what isn’t.
Overall, the audio engineering academia is starting to lose prospect to those looking to work as production and mix engineers. It’s more a place to learn for tracking engineers, mastering engineers or even academic scholars of audio physics. The access to the resources of a university today would only benefit these positions.
Sorry for the long paragraph, it helps me to write out stuff like this to plan. Thank you for your videos, they’re a huge help and I really am thankful for them!
Love the mindset here my man! 🔥
I definitely think things are trending away from college in this industry specifically.
There’s so many resources available now that wasn’t available just a handful of years ago, like you mentioned.
My kid likes engineer , music and audio. What do you recommend to study ? Where ? She is in 11 grade
@@MsGodisyou tell them to get a real engineering degree (mechanical electrical computer ECT.) The recording Industry is dying and it's very hard to find work. A degree in audio doesn't mean much anyway. Just do real engineering and do music on the side
JAH BLESS ALL
No.. i started from absolute scratch 6 mo ths ago.. i didnt even know what Eurorack was.. With the help of TH-cam, ChatGPT, etc i can semi operate Cubase now.. Audio Engineering segrees or any degree in audio is a gimick.. Learn the fundamentals, play, and make sure you can sit in a chair for 12+ hrs a day ❤.. Dedication will get you there.. i have no life outside of Cubase... No mentors allows different throught process you may go through.. Some of which other may not have tried yet.. it is sound..
Mix with the masters people
I think ai will change the being to ask your instructor questions component.
I’m currently starting audio engineering school feb 16 2024 and I’m excited. I would love to get in contact with you and let you know how my journey is coming along
Hey man, congrats! any updates regarding your experience?
I’m extremely scared to go to school for it as even in Australia it’s gonna run me over 100k for sound engineering I already have a pre good job should I just save my money and Paul for courses online?
Any recommendations for online audio engineering certificate programs??
I went to Fullsail but did not finish because of the cost and the audio I was editing for classes sucked
were you going online?
am I the only one who can´t find the links for the courses in the discription wich he talked about ?
I am struggling to find some studio to hire me. I did a short course about audio engineering (like 6 months duration) and I love to edit and mix audio. Wish me luck guys!!
Thanks 🏆🏄♂️🏄♂️
Thanks for watching! 😎
Are you in the process of figuring out which direction to go?
@@MyAudioAcademy definitely not going the school route🤣 I’ve watch many of your vids and luv what you’re doing 💯 do have any courses of your own?
@@lfy_trav I've done my job then...🤣I appreciate more than you know my man.
I do! Here's the link to my most recent release👇🏼
IntroToRecording.com
I'm even more indecisive now after watching this video 😭
What do you hope to get from going to school?
@@MyAudioAcademy My main aim for going to audio school if I do would not necessarily to become a better engineer because I know all about the masterclasses and "youtube university" but to mainly come out of the course with a broader knowledge of audio to then take that knowledge and build upon and craft my own skill from, the experience, and connections and just being able to be in that creative environment instead of sitting and watching someone I can get my hands on the equipment right away I know in the audio world having a degree means jack shit but just the knowledge and environment that a school can offer idk if that can be duplicated for me personally I know everybody path is different tho so you just do what's you think is best for you
@@midwestent.7010 feel the exact same literally
I’m currently one year into audio engineering , learnt from experience and people but I want to be well grounded in audio engineering, I’m doing well according to people but I want to be solid
It bugs me that nobody lists schools
No! In Scotland we have 4 years free college & I wasted mine on a degree in Audio Engineering/Sound Design. The only students that got to make money whilst studying could afford expensive studio space & for such a small country, it’s an incredibly ably over saturated. You’re best using online tutorials & shadowing professionals if you can.
Does it need me to be having degree first?
Bro! I went in 06 to IAR. Price tag was roughly 10-12k. Taught me everything from signal flow to business. Whoever paid 130k for an audio degree got taken advantage of
What is 06 to IAR
@@MsGodisyou my bad. In 2006 I went to the Institute of Audio Research in NYC. Now defunked
Is there any schools that you know of like the one you went to?
@@katarinasimeone1358 Full Sail University is a bigger one now.
Yeah they are bigger and extremely expensive too@@AGproductions87
Teach me brooo
also what speakers do you use
Yamaha HS8’s!
hell nah cause you still gotta deal with school bs and you’ll have debt, also i already know a lot as audio engineering
Help me 😭
Where is this school
😮in seven. Being replaced. By goodstore😅😊
The only advantage going to engineering schools is alot more fun… that’s pretty much it
if i didnt go to college for audio engineering how would i learn online?
considering that i would be going to a school within a larger liberal arts program most likely
There’s some pointers in the video to get started, along with relevant links in the description 👍🏼
@@MyAudioAcademy also btw how much of this is relevant if i want to go to a audio engineering program within a university, not a standalone forprofit school
The question is………Will you be able to support yourself??? Very, Very slim chance that you would, Audio has changed drastically in the last 20 years where is or was in my case a NO longer option, so……??? I changed careers
I went to full sail for music production but I couldn’t pass the first music theory class.
what’d you know of it overall
Me 😭 I failed sight singing at my community college lol
@@SabrinaRosa02 the music theory I learned in grade school wasn’t enough. Lol😂
@@loganpalmer6891 what you mean?
People often confuse sound engineering with a sound technician/aficionado. Studying sound engineering involves knowing how to interpret, from a block diagram of a piece of equipment, to assembling an electroacoustic chain for a stadium sound system, or getting involved in the development of a tomograph. To bring up the musical parallel, you don't have to study at a conservatory to be a rock/pop guitarist. An engineer, not a technician, intervened in the speakers in front of you. The same as a guitarist does not study to be a luthier, but to only play. What happens is that these engineers are not on TH-cam, or did you perhaps see a surgeon doing a tutorial on how to remove a cyst? If what you perhaps saw is how to apply an injection... I consider that if you work for a music band you must be an artist with a technician's mind, that is, enjoy and listen to a lot of music. You learn to use the console quickly, then the issue is what you want to do with it. It's like a guitar. On the other hand, a sound engineer can work calibrating a sound system in a stadium or working for the navy to detect ultrasound at the bottom of the sea, it is not even related to music, this is just one of the branches.
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I wouldn't recommend nor discourage anyone from attending audio engineering school. That said I think it is a waste of money.