Interesting review. Rotary hammers are one tool that tend to be accurately described by manufacturers: impact energy in Joules is easy for them to measure, and BPM is the other main variable.
The question is what's stopping them from fudging the numbers. If M18 is 2.6 joules, and my brand is coming out with our next generation we want to advertise 2.8 joules, do the engineers or marketing execs get to make that call?
I spent sometimes hours a day with a hammer drill in my hands treating for termites. $ to $ Im definitely in the Bauer corner. Although none of the 3 would even begin to touch a Bosch.
If I was gonna be using it every day... I would DEFINITELY put out the extra $$ for a Bosch. For a casual user like me (Plumber) who only needs a rotary hammer every couple months ... Videos like this are a big help in deciding which cheap one to buy.
I've burned up a number of Ryobi tools... MAN, that smoke STINKS... I go with Milwaukee Fuel for all my daily-use tools now (I'm a plumber) They can take a beating.. and believe me... i give my tools a beating... Time is Money!
That Bauer put up a good showing! The price is also good, even if it is a bare tool. I wonder about the longevity of it though, considering how short the warranty is... Thanks again! Nice shorts, btw.
I mean, that's just the strategy they have. You don't pay for a longer warranty unless you want one. (Some of their stuff is exactly the same as what I get as a Menards store brand with 2 year warranty)
You pointed out my problem with Bauer. I only ever used 1 Bauer, and that was their 1-9/16" SDS max corded hammer. Such a good price. I was drilling 24" holes into granite for chemical blasting. Annnnnnnd I went through 3 of them before getting a Bosh at double the cost. They just died. consistently. I'm sure I was abusing them, but then I got the bosh and it was abused even harder. No problem. The only good thing about the Bauer was the return policy. Every time it stopped working I brought it back and they gave me a new one, and after the 3rd one I just took my money back. I have never felt like I need to worry about longevity of tools - even my black and decker, craftsman, I have even hyper tough power tools. And I have never broken any. I know its probably a bit unfair, my drills and drivers and saws probably don't get abused like the rotary hammer. But after that experience, I just don't trust Bauer tools to last. Because to me, how consistently it failed, in exactly the same way, points to a design defect.
@@rpavlik1 that's interesting on the Menards "Skil" brand - although they don't offer an 8ah battery like Bauer does. I haven't had any problem with Bauer tools but I've definitely had Menard "in-store" brands not last at all. I'd rather have a tool that works then have to deal with a warranty.
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That ryobi definitely started letting out the manic smoke. It stood no chance against the dewalt, but that Bauer is actually surprising. I’m actually almost impressed.
Thanks Jim and TTC. Appreciate the comparison between Air and Battery tools as tool companies continue to shift to meet new consumer demands. Keep up the great work.
Cool video. I have a project to add some AC outlets outside my house so I might be in the market for one of these if my Makita with hammer drill option doesn't drill through the old brick.
Always love your content The SDS us and Max Rotary hammers are another perfect tool for the Metabo HPT 36V AC adapter-two run these tools all day on the adapter when available as they suck batteries while hammering Hitachi has always had a great line of air/Electric and now cordless Rotary hammers
I’ve been checking that dewalt hammer drill out in the Home Dumpot for about 3 months now. It’s a sexy looking tool. There are two of them. One is a little bigger. I was checking out their amperage and noticed that they didn’t really pull much in comparison to an older sawzall shaped hammer drill. I guess they’re good for being lightweight and longer battery life. Which has its place on a job site as well. Less running back to get batteries.
I would like to see how these SDS+ tools work with the drill chuck. I use a MAX for concrete chipping but might use a + for interior work drilling a hole in a cement or wood wall to hang something, if I could do both with one tool, it would be a useful purchase for me.
We (the actual TTC) have randomly picked winners today 5/26 and you're one of them! Email us a shipping address (that is all we need) and you'll be sent a random SDS from those we tested! TorqueTestChannel@gmail.com
@@TorqueTestChannel That is awesome, I still think the SDS+ chuck test would be cool. I used one in a D-Handle Bosch back in the 00's and it had a flip tool where you switched from drill to driver in a few seconds. I fell in love with the tool but never bought my own. I'll try it out with one of these, I think TapCon had a kit for it back then? I'm very grateful.
I was looking for a hammer drill, but define toy goes for bauer most because i use bit drill battery and others bauer tools unfortunately some of bauer don't going in to longest Streisand but price is good. Nice video. I would like Windows this
I don’t have direct experience there, but I’d imagine that they’re less expensive for the same or more power as cordless. Even better, you can pick whichever model best meets your needs, without regard to whether you’re in the battery platform or not.
Thanks to your friends over at Torque Test Channel, you got another sub in me! I suspect I'll be working my way through your uploads like a chain smoker!
Great video as always Jim! Be great to see the Bosch and Kobalt versions of the same compact size (mainly because I have both and would like to see how they rank up to the others). Always willing to lend them out to TTC and Philly if needed 😏. Keep up the great content...saved me more than once from making a poor decision lol!
Awesome video! I was close to pulling the trigger on the DeWalt since I'm already in the DeWalt 12V line with the 5-in-1 tool, the circ saw, and an impact wrench. I think I will wait until the drawing is done to see if I get lucky enough to win one.
I own the p222, and I concur with your findings Jim. In a pinch if you need a few 1/2 holes for rebar or chipping a little mortar and brick/ and it stops there 🤣. Nice video man
@@jonathansherwood5841 🤣. I wouldn’t call this model trash, but it’s nowhere near the power to the bigger brushless brother the 223. 222 has DIY written all over it and I’m sure that’s what it’s intended market was. The RYOBI HP Brushless line is nowhere near the category of trash. That’s just my opinion brother. 🤣. Everyone has a different preference when it comes to tools but one crappy tools performance shouldn’t overshadow a brands line in it’s entirety.
Jonathan, I think Brandon said it's less than trash. Because with trash, you actually get something done. It's kinda like that drip. It leaves a moldy stain unless you use the right tool to fix it.
I have that exact Ryobi and fastened composite decking directly to concrete and used that model for pilot holes (with a Bosch bit) with absolutely no problems. What bit were you using?
Great job with the testing collaboration! Once again you are showing an accurate comparison of the tools, been a subscriber since before the name change!
90 days? That’s the return period for a lot of stores. Wonder if the Harbor Freight “extended warranty” is any good? Just add that amount to the cost and compare their “with a normal warranty” prices.
I hve the makita 18v I believe it’s 7/8” capacity and it’s been kicking butt for a few years. Boss has the dewalt 20v it feels weak tbh. Been wondering about the ryobi
I'd like to see these stacked up against something like the DeWalt DWD520 corded unit. I've had mine just plow through some concrete and other times it seems like I burn up 3 bits trying to punch a single 4" hole.
@@PhillyFixed I tend to agree, but it'd nice to see how much better they are or aren't. If it's significantly better, it may be worth the trouble run an extension cord or generator to do it. If it's only 5% faster, meh, not so much.
I'm somewhat surprised to see the bauer take the top spot in this vs the dewalt. 20v vs 12v I guess. I'd be curious to see how a craftsman holds up here since we're in the budget category. Picked one up cheap on a sale as an around the house sds. Does pretty well for my use.
this is awesome I love both your guys channels and I think it's great that you guys have teamed up again , but I'm honestly surprised that the metabo didn't show up in this shootout.
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It should be noted that the Ryobi tested is their old discontinued model. They have a new one that's brushless and has the handle like you suggested
Yep and that one kicks ass. It blew thru my concrete bathroom floor like no body's business.
Interesting review. Rotary hammers are one tool that tend to be accurately described by manufacturers: impact energy in Joules is easy for them to measure, and BPM is the other main variable.
The question is what's stopping them from fudging the numbers. If M18 is 2.6 joules, and my brand is coming out with our next generation we want to advertise 2.8 joules, do the engineers or marketing execs get to make that call?
@@TorqueTestChannel I’m sure that depends on the company. I reckon we’ve probably seen a familiar theme, thanks to testing such as yours.
Good review. Surprised the 12v was that "close". Pretty impressive
I spent sometimes hours a day with a hammer drill in my hands treating for termites. $ to $ Im definitely in the Bauer corner. Although none of the 3 would even begin to touch a Bosch.
If I was gonna be using it every day... I would DEFINITELY put out the extra $$ for a Bosch. For a casual user like me (Plumber) who only needs a rotary hammer every couple months ... Videos like this are a big help in deciding which cheap one to buy.
Here for the Bauer, I knew the Ryobi was gonna burn out but danggg 😂
I've burned up a number of Ryobi tools... MAN, that smoke STINKS... I go with Milwaukee Fuel for all my daily-use tools now (I'm a plumber) They can take a beating.. and believe me... i give my tools a beating... Time is Money!
That Bauer put up a good showing! The price is also good, even if it is a bare tool.
I wonder about the longevity of it though, considering how short the warranty is...
Thanks again! Nice shorts, btw.
I mean, that's just the strategy they have. You don't pay for a longer warranty unless you want one. (Some of their stuff is exactly the same as what I get as a Menards store brand with 2 year warranty)
@@rpavlik1 Dang, we don't have a Menards where I'm at...
@@jonathansherwood5841 yeah having Menards here really does make Harbor Freight less exciting. Heck sometimes they look expensive.
You pointed out my problem with Bauer. I only ever used 1 Bauer, and that was their 1-9/16" SDS max corded hammer. Such a good price. I was drilling 24" holes into granite for chemical blasting. Annnnnnnd I went through 3 of them before getting a Bosh at double the cost. They just died. consistently. I'm sure I was abusing them, but then I got the bosh and it was abused even harder. No problem. The only good thing about the Bauer was the return policy. Every time it stopped working I brought it back and they gave me a new one, and after the 3rd one I just took my money back. I have never felt like I need to worry about longevity of tools - even my black and decker, craftsman, I have even hyper tough power tools. And I have never broken any. I know its probably a bit unfair, my drills and drivers and saws probably don't get abused like the rotary hammer. But after that experience, I just don't trust Bauer tools to last. Because to me, how consistently it failed, in exactly the same way, points to a design defect.
@@rpavlik1 that's interesting on the Menards "Skil" brand - although they don't offer an 8ah battery like Bauer does. I haven't had any problem with Bauer tools but I've definitely had Menard "in-store" brands not last at all. I'd rather have a tool that works then have to deal with a warranty.
Would've liked to see the new Ryobi SDS tested, that one did well against the Milwaukee which is twice the price.
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I use Hilti ,Dewalt and Makita rotary hammers almost daily. The Bauer you tested looks pretty good for the price.
That ryobi definitely started letting out the manic smoke. It stood no chance against the dewalt, but that Bauer is actually surprising. I’m actually almost impressed.
I like the bits with the vacuum attachment to collect the dust.
I have been Milwaukee for years now but I am really liking what I see with Dewalt. Thank you for the excellent video.
Fantastic work showing comparisons on tools, the info you and TTC give to consumers is incredibly helpful.
Nice comparison!
Thanks Jim and TTC. Appreciate the comparison between Air and Battery tools as tool companies continue to shift to meet new consumer demands. Keep up the great work.
Merci pour ce retour.
De rien!
Didn't know I needed an SDS drill until today!
Bring the M12, Makita & other brands to the fight!
Cool video. I have a project to add some AC outlets outside my house so I might be in the market for one of these if my Makita with hammer drill option doesn't drill through the old brick.
Always love your content
The SDS us and Max Rotary hammers are another perfect tool for the Metabo HPT 36V AC adapter-two run these tools all day on the adapter when available as they suck batteries while hammering
Hitachi has always had a great line of air/Electric and now cordless Rotary hammers
Love the collaboration. Two of the best channels on TH-cam
I really dig the concept of this video. I'm interested in the potential of SDS hammers for work beyond concrete. Thanks for the vid!
Cool having a friend named Test 🤣🤣
I'm in the Bauer line and had been looking at the new SDS. Glad to see some quality reviews of it.
Great video. Think I’ll stick with the corded SDS until the battery technology gets better.
Nice work good to see some old concrete being used.
I get why the old model was included (thanks HF) but would like to see Ryobi's new model included for a more up to date comparison
Any chance we can toss in a corded Bosch model?
Didn't expect smoke! At least it tried :)
I’ve been checking that dewalt hammer drill out in the Home Dumpot for about 3 months now. It’s a sexy looking tool. There are two of them. One is a little bigger. I was checking out their amperage and noticed that they didn’t really pull much in comparison to an older sawzall shaped hammer drill. I guess they’re good for being lightweight and longer battery life. Which has its place on a job site as well. Less running back to get batteries.
Wow did not expect Bauer to be that aggressive. I usually ignore harbor freight power tools but I might look at Bauer again
I love side-by-side comparison videos like this... NICE VID!
Sweet I was wondering how those would work as an "air hammer"
I would like to see how these SDS+ tools work with the drill chuck. I use a MAX for concrete chipping but might use a + for interior work drilling a hole in a cement or wood wall to hang something, if I could do both with one tool, it would be a useful purchase for me.
We (the actual TTC) have randomly picked winners today 5/26 and you're one of them! Email us a shipping address (that is all we need) and you'll be sent a random SDS from those we tested! TorqueTestChannel@gmail.com
@@TorqueTestChannel That is awesome, I still think the SDS+ chuck test would be cool. I used one in a D-Handle Bosch back in the 00's and it had a flip tool where you switched from drill to driver in a few seconds. I fell in love with the tool but never bought my own. I'll try it out with one of these, I think TapCon had a kit for it back then? I'm very grateful.
I love these collaborations I really am glad to have found Philly fixed from the TTT
Glad to have you here!
Thanks for helping out TTC w this video! Will watch your other videos now!!
Thank you for the comparison. I was curious on that Xtreme. 👍
This could be such a monumental series. Let's test EVERY MANUFACTURER. Money is no issue! Shoot sorry I'm broke as well
I was looking for a hammer drill, but define toy goes for bauer most because i use bit drill battery and others bauer tools unfortunately some of bauer don't going in to longest Streisand but price is good. Nice video. I would like Windows this
Damn…. Too late for the free SDS!! Only 11 months late!!
Awesome video! Appreciate the info gents! Love the work.
Good collaboration! Nice to know you work together.
I’ve found that corded SDS hammers are the way to go.
I don’t have direct experience there, but I’d imagine that they’re less expensive for the same or more power as cordless. Even better, you can pick whichever model best meets your needs, without regard to whether you’re in the battery platform or not.
They are cheaper and power is a factor, especially when you run into rebar.
Great video, I’m liking what DeWalt is doing with their 12v line.
I use a SDS as my air hammer for about 18 month ( Milwaukee 1inch SDS plus )
The newer ryobi sds brush less hammer drill has similar performance (2.5joules VS 2.7)
How have you found using the Milwaukee?
Great demo. Liking the Bauer.
Definitely Dewalt 12v denominated the show. Over 18v/20v competitors
Great review as always. The collab with TTC was great!
Thanks to your friends over at Torque Test Channel, you got another sub in me! I suspect I'll be working my way through your uploads like a chain smoker!
Really like the information that you put and the open facts you have! Thank you!
How would that Bauer with a wide chisel bit do splitting logs? Not it's intended use, but seems like it could save a load of time if effective.
Ehh, I think it would be rather slow and painful. You need slower, more forceful blows to split wood versus the faster chipping for concrete.
Great video as always Jim! Be great to see the Bosch and Kobalt versions of the same compact size (mainly because I have both and would like to see how they rank up to the others). Always willing to lend them out to TTC and Philly if needed 😏. Keep up the great content...saved me more than once from making a poor decision lol!
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I would hope the Bosch would win.
Awesome video! I was close to pulling the trigger on the DeWalt since I'm already in the DeWalt 12V line with the 5-in-1 tool, the circ saw, and an impact wrench. I think I will wait until the drawing is done to see if I get lucky enough to win one.
I like the video and great job, but why the 12 volt Dewalt? They have an Atomic and an XR and just a 20 volt max too I think.....
Following TTC's lead on this vid, but I do have the Atomic and I'm planning on Atomic vs Xtreme soon!
@@PhillyFixed hell ya
I own the p222, and I concur with your findings Jim. In a pinch if you need a few 1/2 holes for rebar or chipping a little mortar and brick/ and it stops there 🤣. Nice video man
So, Ryobi is trash? Especially when compared to the other SDS drills? Got it!
@@jonathansherwood5841 🤣. I wouldn’t call this model trash, but it’s nowhere near the power to the bigger brushless brother the 223. 222 has DIY written all over it and I’m sure that’s what it’s intended market was. The RYOBI HP Brushless line is nowhere near the category of trash. That’s just my opinion brother. 🤣. Everyone has a different preference when it comes to tools but one crappy tools performance shouldn’t overshadow a brands line in it’s entirety.
Jonathan, I think Brandon said it's less than trash. Because with trash, you actually get something done. It's kinda like that drip. It leaves a moldy stain unless you use the right tool to fix it.
@@IMPACT-NATION Sooo, the 222 is less than trash? 🤣 Yes, it serves a certain purpose to a certain crowd. If it does the job, then good!
@@PFab Gotcha! Let's send this 222 to Chaka, I'm sure he will give it a nice home.
There aren't many good sds reviews out there. I'm looking to change to wireless, thanks for the reviews.
Great comparison video. Never would have thought to do it this way, but I like it
Found your channel from TTC a few months ago, love the content, thanks for all you do
Impressed by the Bauer.
Really impressed with harbor freight this time. Just wonder how long it’ll run that good.
I have that exact Ryobi and fastened composite decking directly to concrete and used that model for pilot holes (with a Bosch bit) with absolutely no problems. What bit were you using?
I stated what bit I was using at the beginning of each test. Used different bits depending on which test you're referring to.
Great job with the testing collaboration! Once again you are showing an accurate comparison of the tools, been a subscriber since before the name change!
Wow - O.G. subscriber!! Thanks for being here!
Awesome collab with TTC! You gained a subscription from me! Keep up the great work!
This crossover is the best since the flintsones meet the jetsons. 😂 Seriously great episode to both of y’all.
Can't believe the m12 preformed as well as it did
would to see this compared to corded sds drills, and see any gap performance vs cordless
Great video. Just curious, why wouldn’t you use the ryobi p223 instead because it is brushless like the other brands.
I think TTC was looking for a certain price point for the comparison
Philly and TTC coming through!! Thanks man.
90 days? That’s the return period for a lot of stores. Wonder if the Harbor Freight “extended warranty” is any good? Just add that amount to the cost and compare their “with a normal warranty” prices.
The Bauer is better than its price. I'm impressed
I hve the makita 18v I believe it’s 7/8” capacity and it’s been kicking butt for a few years. Boss has the dewalt 20v it feels weak tbh. Been wondering about the ryobi
Loving your collaboration with TTC!
Came over here from TTC. I enjoy watching your test videos.
Thank you for the testing. Found your channel through TTC
I mean.... Okay! Sds showdown. Here for it.
Great comparison of these tools from both you and TTC! Never thought much about an SDS tool but I might look into it now. Keep up the great work!
Nice video. Great seeing tools on a level playing field.
Great comparison video, Guys.
Curious to see how other sds drills would compare
Love the video, surprised by the Bauer but happy to see Dewalt Xtreme holding its own!
I'd like to see these stacked up against something like the DeWalt DWD520 corded unit. I've had mine just plow through some concrete and other times it seems like I burn up 3 bits trying to punch a single 4" hole.
I think anything corded will destroy these unless it's very cheap or very old, haha
@@PhillyFixed I tend to agree, but it'd nice to see how much better they are or aren't. If it's significantly better, it may be worth the trouble run an extension cord or generator to do it. If it's only 5% faster, meh, not so much.
Where to find the impact force of these machines to compare with my 5J hammer?
Very surprised about the Bauer
Thank you for this video series!
Would have never thought Harbor Freight would do that good.
Thx for such a wonderful channel. Sorry I wasn't subscribed b4. I am now. Been watching your channel for about 8 months
The Bauer is $30 right now. I don’t need it, but I might pick one up for that price.
Thanks Jim! Love your videos man. Really appreciate you taking the time to share knowledge and information. Also really enjoy the collabs with TTC 👊
I'm somewhat surprised to see the bauer take the top spot in this vs the dewalt. 20v vs 12v I guess. I'd be curious to see how a craftsman holds up here since we're in the budget category. Picked one up cheap on a sale as an around the house sds. Does pretty well for my use.
Yall know them bauer tools are tempting! Yall just scared you going to get laughed at. I went all in with bauer! For the price you can't beat it guys!
I'm impressed with the Bauer
I just subscribed! I’m glad I found this channel!
It would be nice to get any of these air hammers. Either way I enjoy the videos... keep up the great work. 😉👍🏼😁🤞🏼
Bauer looked good! Good test
Oooo. Contest entry please!
Thanks for showing the beans!
Does it make sense to compare dewalt 12V to bauer 20V?
Thanks for the test.
These videos are great content and very enjoyable to watch, keep up the good work!
this is awesome I love both your guys channels and I think it's great that you guys have teamed up again , but I'm honestly surprised that the metabo didn't show up in this shootout.
More to come!
Great collaboration
That power surprised me