Sting's 1999: 83 Weeks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- On this episode of 83 Weeks, Eric and Conrad discuss and explore the turbulent year of 1999 in Sting's career. Sting starts the year and ends as champion, but the wild storyline ride in between is something Eric cringes to talk about.
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The Sting / DDP match for the belt in April 1999 is arguably, to me, one of the best nitro matches that ever happened. The match was insane start to finish and the crowd was bonkers. A true athletic contest. Sting looked badass with the paint missing at the end and the diamond cutter reversal into the death drop was used in both their matches (98 and 99) and the crowd popped big time in this match. 5 star match in MY book, story or not.
That was the best nitro match ever and one of the best matches in the history of WCW in my opinion.
That match fucking slapped. Such an athletic, fast paced bout and a genuine unexpected outcome that popped the fans.
Unfortunately I think that was the start of when WCW had titles changing hands like a game of hot potato.
@BlanketsWereStairs did you know he had a non televised match in Baltimore a few weeks earlier? It ended up being in a magazine later on that year. Sting beat DDP that night with the scorpion death lock.
Call me biased, but I completely disagree with the Sting promo and the ridiculous amount of criticism on Dave Meltzers saying it ran too long. I hadn't seen him in 6 months at that point, so I was absolutely interested in hearing what he had to say.
I've seen that Sting return promo on Nitro more times than I can recall. Meltzer's take on that is way out there! The crowd reacted very favorably to it. It was the perfect fired up Babyface promo and the crowd popped throughout. Meltzer doing his typical over critical routine.
He hates Sting so it’s no surprise. Of course, Connie reads it like gospel without watching it himself.
Get a better source, Connie.
I was in the crowd that night, me and my buddies. It was my one and only WCW show I ever attended and it was a good one. I got to see Sting vs Ric Flair and DDP and Scott Steiner end (for the time) their awesome feud and other cool stuff. And yeah Meltzer is full of shit. The crowd reacted VERY well to Sting that night and his opening promo likewise. I never knew it was percieved badly until now actually. Sure I prefered teh first version of Crow Sting, the silent brooding version but by this point they (for some resaon) weren't doing the nWo storyline anymore, or they KINDA were but it was obviously fizzling and Sting obviously wanted to talk again. This 1999 version of Crow Sting was different. The first version was Goth this was Metal and I think it worked perfectly for the time. Much as I love the Crow Theme he had in 97 and 98 it was wise to change THAT as well by 99 to the Metallica song. This was Crow 2.0 and it fit pretty well for the time even if the booking and story telling around the character was horseshit. But yeah long story LONG, Sting was over as fuck that night and wasn't getting booed at all during his promo.
Agreed the fans ate it up. No idea what the hell Conrad is talking about. Drinking the uncle Dave Kool aid
Oh my Lord. So I just rewatched that promo on Peacock to see if my memory was off. Meltzer is taking crazy pills! The fans ate that promo up. The only time they booed was when Sting mentioned DDP, who was in the beginning stages of his heel turn.
Conrad, if you're going to make this promo a topic of discussion and a critique of the Sting character, at least watch the promo and don't just regurgitate Meltzer weird, awful write ups.
@ncvogt truly embarssing and lazy to even say such things that are just flat wrong. Definitly should do more then little to Meltzer make shit up. Any real fan of WCW remembers this promo and how hot the crowd was.
Show starts at 8:52
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I remember right before he came back before spring stampede.he had a show on qvc.watched it just for sting lol
Same!
This is unquestionably one of Sting's most underrated years of his career and I have been waiting for this episode for years.
“Dave from Metallica…” lmaooooo
I have a picture with me and Sting from a TNA show in brooklyn.
Conrad forgot to mention Stings return on Nitro 3/29/99 in Toronto. The segment with Flair, DDP, Hogan and Sting watching from the rafters
“Sting! Don’t be flying around up there! I’m the president!” Lmao
Dave Mustaine was the founding guitarist of Metallica IIRC and of course creator of Megadeth who did Goldberg's theme Crush Em at that time.
I was at the Nitro in New Orleans when he said the suck it thing. A) He thought as did I, that the cameras were off already at the end of the show. B) He actually only said "I got two words for ya" and he let the crowd finish it.
Just finished reading the Nitro book. It makes so much sense as to why Eric might have mentally checked out by 1999. The corporate landscape changed drastically and the family friendly demands placed upon Eric was the real point at which the edgy creative stuff stopped. And that's when WCW stopped being able to compete.
And, the frankly bizarre goings on around the sale of WCW, I felt empathy for Eric. He did everything he could to save the company. If you haven't read Nitro, it's a must read. It explains so much, and backs up much of what Eric describes.
Moral of this episode is the fans should’ve been running creative.
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I always wondered why Sting suddenly disappeared from TV after Halloween Havoc '98 and didn't return until spring of 1999.
It was cause he was having personal issues and he needed to take a break
1:44:40 talking about Seek and Destroy from Metallica. The Dave you're thinking of is in fact Dave Mustaine and he was in Metallica when that album was created but he didn't have credits to that song Dave Mustaine is a part of Megadeth at the time WCW uses this song
Meltzer's stars do not matter in anyway...it is about the story and star power, always has been. If you are Shawn Michaels and are an amazing storyteller + amazing wrestler...you are elite. Which is why AEW will flop like every other independent/outlaw wrestling "organization". Have fun at Wembley, do it next year and prove me wrong...Number of flips do not matter.
I agree with you on Meltzer. Aew isn't flopping they having there best year by far this year. They are going nowhere bud. Like or hate them, they are here to stay.
I'm not touching the AEW stuff because I'm not really into modern wrestling, but I'd say it's more story than star power. A great story can catapult 2 midcarders, a shit story can handcuff 2 stars. Also, FDM!
@BrandanTheBroker Collison would be more up your alley. It's completely difffent then dynamite.
Sting hitting Hogan with the bat and the crowd cheered was easily one of the greatest moments in the history of wrestling.
That Luger monster truck thing was cool.
The more I hear Eric talk, the more I wonder how he did so well for so long.
Or at all.
What I mean is Eric seems genuinely empathetic and reasonable and nice.
The majority of wrestling bosses seem like sociopathic scallawags.
Thank you E and The Podfather!
Sting never said suck it. That’s the one thing about sting. He is probably the only wrestler I can think of that has never cursed in air. Or even ever. Even in a shoot interview sensational Sherri said she never heard him even use a curse word. Truly amazing.
th-cam.com/video/5vrO3TOpOAQ/w-d-xo.html Not exactly saying it but yeah about as close as he ever got.
Conrad only watched southern wrestling, so his opinion on wrestling barely matters...Terry Taylor would never be world champion in anyone's organization. Arn Anderson was a big deal somewhere in the south, but would never work anywhere north of the Mason-Dixon line.
Sid (not prime), Steiner (def not prime), Sting (not prime), Goldberg (green as green can be...with his name piped in through the speakers), Nash (didn't care anymore), and Hogan (at that point, on top of the world). These aren't convincing points Dave, I mean Conrad.
I think the after math of the finger poke of doom would have been good if Sting was there teaming with Goldberg.
Eric's nephew is CIA huh?!
Meltzer warned me about you.
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My favourite John Wayne film "John Bernard books"
The shootist
It's a tie between this one and true grit
Macho’s last 2 title runs lasted “24hours” each 😢
How many back surgeries had hogan had by this time?
Gosh, I left an earlier comment that I still stand by, but... this pod should be retitled from sting 99 to The complete fuckin burial of Eric Bischoff's shitty booking. I kinda feel bad for Eazy E 😂
Is Eric bishoff off going to all in ??
eric was found out on vice this week
Did anyone catch the thumbnail?
Hell Fighters
That was John Wayne's last movie. He played a firefighter for oil rigs.
Sorry but you're mistaken. The shootist was definitely The Dukes last film
@@scottthomas4779 I just went and looked and I was definitely wrong.
Couldn't tell you why I was thinking that.
Sting and ric flair were on fire in 1999 physically and over with the crowd.99 should have been the year wcw pushed all the younger guys like jericho,benoit,giant basically all those that left for wwe
Sting was not in the reunited nWo.
Since this match had no finish i guess therell be another Trish/Becky match
Rick Steiner is 100% correct
Love the Pod..Yo Conrad throw me a shout out!
Blasphemy using this as the background. Nothing compares.... probably Con Thompson
Agreed. Sting is KING of WCW.
Please ask Eric if he is a white/green/red vein kratom type of guy. I hope all the wrestling (who are taking hard pharmaceutical drugs) switch to kratom and/or thc. All natural is the way. #nomoredeaths
David flair 💪💪, ruuuuushed. Wow should have been developed for at least 5 yrs before he went out. Never understood it.
He returned the same night Bret quit. Bret’s the one that took him out
Hogan v warrior didn’t work??? Whaaaat???
conrad dave mustaine left metallica in 1983 🤣
I re watched stings promo in 1999 that you said fell flat and you are completely wrong. It was about 1min and 30 seconds and the crowd was cheering for him the entire time. You should starting having actual fans on this podcast so you can get your facts straight
If you really want a sleepy way to get into a story just have Arn Anderson cut a promo. Half the audience will be knocked out while the other half is yelling for Flair to come out already
Blasphemy
Hey Eric, I just wanted to tell you I think it was in late 1998 you were still in the NWO, & you cut your hair really short or buzzed your head? Just wanted to say I always thought that was a GREAT look for you! I thought it made you look a little cooler & a little tougher lol. Not that you weren't lol. I'm just saying I thought it looked good ...
I thought Eric looked better with his Short black hair with it being little long in the back It fit the NWO look my opinion
Why does Conrad start rocking around in his chair when he thinks he has a point? Is this a health problem...should we be worried?
Probably too much Bud Light.
I should not have to suffer through Kevin hart to see tony schiavone
Google runs ads, podcast runs ads. We see ad reads on this podcast 20% of the time, done with it.
Look at Flair's career of devaluing the belt and tell me how many actual championships Flair actual won out of the 16...do your research.
Eric looks uninterested 😢
Sting wwe Undertaker kane HHH HBK kevin NASH edge
Surfer Sting was a million times better than Crow Sting.
...shit ait live
I'm the dislike button
You have mangled flesh for a face 😃
Wow very late this week lol can't wait to hear more lies from Eric as he spins what really happened 😂😂
Yeah, rightm because you were there.
@CrashDavisRadio Lmao!! You can tell when he's lying you didn't need to be there I trust actual wrestlers who were there and he's been caught in lies on his show like when he had Scott Hall on and he tried lying about when they brought him and Nash in saying the outsiders story had nothing to do with their ties to WWF and Hall said yes it did and Eric got all nervous because he knew he lied that's just one example of many lies he also either downplays or exaggerates and he always kisses Hogan's ass everytime he let him do whatever the f*ck he wanted and purposely kept certain wrestlers down
The first hour is awful.
Wcw. 1999. And 2000. Was some of the worst tv. In. History. 🗑️. 💯 ✅