fun little fact with the Sony bodies is you can tune white balance in camera to save on workflow time. For example, I have my auto white balance set to be much warmer than Sony would choose and I also increase the pink for stylistic purposes.
Sony user here. The Sony skin tones were a lot greener before the the third generation came out. That's when Sony changed their 'color science'. Ironically, canons skin tones are a little green compared to the new Sony models. And this color science matters only if you shoot jpegs because when you process your photos, you're not gonna end up with the same colors SOOC. This bad Sony colors thing will still get brought up even in 5 years from now.
yeah man, I've noticed that too. Lenses make the biggest difference in terms of skin tones IMO. My favourite for skin tones is my Helios 44-2. That thing just makes skin look superb.
Jeah indeed. The color differences in lenses is quite noteable. Even on Lenses from the same family/line. We compared the Canon 24-70 2,8L II and the 70-200 2,8L II which should be pretty much the same. but the magenta was noteable different.
Not true. If you color balance your camera then the Raw photos come out pretty even. If you start with a camera profile then yes they are different but you just have a different path to get to your look. In the end Camera color makes no difference unless you are a person that prints JPGs out of camera or rely on camera profiles for your look. Then again, you can use any preset balanced for your camera to achieve the same result.
The color science anyone prefers now days is just a easy post processing fix no matter what camera it comes from. It's just personal preference on what you want... from camera to post processing software. Art is subjective and it's beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Its not easy. Hence why wedding photographers will have 2 sets of photos 1 with editing and grading and 1 documentary style. Thats where color science matters. These examples are controlled so it really doesnt matter but bulk editing sony files is a pain in the ass. But I like your quotes of "wokeness" rofl...
Very interesting. I've often felt that people just say Sony's colours are off cause they heard someone else say it and they follow the narrative. Either that or they used the v1 or v2 A7 models which weren't as good. I've always felt colour science is really only a problem if one shoots jpeg and doesn't edit their work.
Sony made major adjustments to color science when the A7r3 came out, and further refinements with the A73. They've gotten a LOT better, but the perception about bad color persists because of how bad their early offerings were.
A really important video that needed to be made, Julia. Personally, I found the Sony raw image looking more natural than the Canon. I was quite pleasantly surprised actually.
Could you do a video showing different skin tones of people of color? (Black, Asian, Indian tones) I think that would be a cool video to see the range from the two cameras! 💜✨
@@theyseemetrollintheycantwi1514 I would imagine she might have a hard time finding someone not caucasian in Sydney AU, to begin with. That's like going to the GAP looking for the FUBU hats...
I think it’s more than just a different color tone you can easily fix. Shooting Portraits side by side often reveals unwanted color tones especially in dark areas like shadows on the skin. Sony tends to produce green tones and others on the skin. You may not see it without comparing it to a canon image, but if you do the differences are often pretty obvious. The problem is you can’t just fix those afterwards without heavily manual work on each area. Something no one usually wants to do
You are forgetting that the Sony skin tones and colors were absolute garbage before their current 3rd gen cameras. Go shoot with an a7 or a7ii and behold the awful skin tones and colors. Unless you like your models to look like they have jaundice
And still Canon & even Panasonic colors look much better than Sony's. I personally was aghast how dismal Sony looked when the 3 were cut in a sequence.
Awesome job matching the skin tones. I used to criticize Sony skintones like eveyone else. But these new Gen 3 cams (A7RIII/A7III) and even 4th gen (A6400/A7RIV) are much more pleasing straight out of cam (in Natural light)
Hi please correct me if I'm wrong. You are not really comparing colors of Canon vs Sony but rather Adobe's interpretation of those RAW images. In LR you can assign color profiles of Sony or Canon to the RAW files to simulate the real brands colors or maybe even better you should compare jpges out of two brands or use native Sony and Canon RAW converters to really compare the colors. Other than that nice video that shows that with any camera we can achieve same results.
Thanks! I have the raw + jpg sooc, which look the same as the images I included in this video. I also made sure to look at them both on a bunch of different programs so that any software or profiles don't ruin the integrity of my personal observations!
I'm a canon user but I think Sony wins this round, but a lil lightroom editing fixes that up right away. My fuji blows them both out of the water though =p
He is correct Fuji is so underrated. The colors from Fuji Straight out of Camera are better than Sony for sure. I have had Sony cameras and they are all the same. The skin tones are off. It takes a ton of work to try to fix skin tones.
Color tones are affected by the lens not the sensor. I find canon lenses have warmer (more orange) tones than for instance sigma lenses on the same canon camera
I adapted all my Canon glass to my Sony and the colors were way different. The colors on A7ii are way different than my A7iii with all the same glass as well so I would say this theory is a bust.
@@garthzutautas125 sensors and processors have been updated with every generation of Sony cameras (mainly because they were pretty terrible to start). It's a mix of all the parts of the camera that get you a RAW file to start with. Some are better than others and everyone has their preference.
stephen heraldo Okay cool I’m just letting original poster know that colours come from the sensor and not the lenses. The lenses can have a slight affect on colour but the colour science is related to the electronics and it the glass.
@@garthzutautas9063 I think mean to reply to the original poster as well. I think we're all in agreement that it's all parts of the camera/lenses that affect color, and each manufacturer has their preferred color formulas, just like back in the film days.
Thank you for this. Can you do this with someone with dark or brown skin? That's where I feel Sony has trouble. Even shooting in raw and trying to post-process, I can never get it to look natural or as pleasing as Canon. Would love to switch to Sony otherwise. Sony has been amazing with their releases.
Hmm, that's is the secret sauce that Canon has. All of us are trying to get this in the post, but why? There still seems to be a reason we all don't know why do we have to try a look at Canon colors. I am a Nikon shooter and have a Canon picture profile in my camera. It's just easy to get around the post to try and get this science if you have the Canon picture profile. It's only us photographers know this not the clients. But why do we still crave for it? Is still my question.
Not all of us.. Just you and I guess your friends. I shoot Nikon and love the look I get from it and have no need to make my Nikons look like the Canon. Or else I would just buy a Canon..
The other thing people have to consider is that their photos will be viewed on so many different devices with varying display types, so being too nit-picky about the colours seems a bit pointless when the goal is to share the photo via social media. So just get it looking how you want it to without spending half of your day making micro adjustments, get it uploaded, then start working on something new!
This is odd, I use both cameras as well and my findings are the opposite- canon had more pink tint whereas the Sony is greener. The main issue is the luminance in combination with color of skin tones, the Sony looks more "plasticky", digital. I prefer the 5D MKIV color science.
When you get skin tone that are pink or red it sometimes means the sensor is letting in IR contamination. Its worth checking your blacks to see if one is more black or brown than the other to confirm if it really is IR contamination at play? In your test my prefernce is Canon image straight out of the camera.
@@kentaaruga4765 I am already a subscriber of his channel and already watched his video on similar topic. It is difficult to prove difference of Canon color science..many people claims that they can match colors in post processing..not entirely false...It is as difficult as proving Nikon or Sony users that there always be green tint in shadow area and yellow in skin tones. I think you should stay with whatever you like Sony, Nikon, Canon...Fuji...whatever it may be...
Well - it is interesting.....I guess the answer to the never ending conundrum lies in this: if you are rushing out of the house which camera would you be inclined to pick up?
Thank you! I'm so sick and tired of people talking about the "Canon skin tones". I used to be a Canon shooter and switched to Sony about a year ago. I shoot weddings and landscapes and I love the way that the Sony looks and edits in both genres, if that makes sense. I enjoy even more how easy it is to quickly get a good color grade in video from the A7 III, I use Cine4.
1) The comparison of the girl against the wall - cameras were at different shutter speeds. Camera sensors will react differently to color sensitivity at different levels of exposure. Under/overexposing, technically, will cause a camera to represent color slightly different. One camera was at 1/480 of a second, the other was at 1/320. Hard to make a color comparison if your settings aren't the same across the board. 2) The photo before that - even though you said they look the same, they didn't. The left was clearly bluish. What was the white balance setting for any of these photos? Manually set or automatic? 3) What would have better displayed accurate skintone representation across cameras would have been a look at histograms and vectorscopes and using power windows/masks to isolate skin on their face.
Just so everyone is clear on this, color straight out of the camera when shooting still photos is more important if you are just shooting JPG files. When shooting raw, you fine-tune the color with the raw convertor. Speaking of that, I shoot Sony and use Capture One for my raw processing. The Capture One people have worked extensively with Sony to get great processing results.
Hello from Kyiv Ukraine. I am a Sony shooter. I always shoot a colour checker for the first shots of each group to be sure of exact colour match between cameras/lenses and to get the correct white balance. I not saying you should but this is what I do and it takes no time at all. You can balance the colours between camera brands using this.
i dont know why, but when comparing a9 vs eos RP, although a9 is way more better in overall details, with same setting Canon RP looks better. to fix Canon set the WB to Amber and Magenta a bit.
Canon people are going crazy about this Canon color science thing, and I don't get it. I've always though the 'Canon colors' they talk about, are way too warm to start with, but of course that's just my opinion. Also, after the Sony edit, Canon colors just looked grey in comparison, and Sony way better, IMO.
Thank you! Also try to take portrait shots with warm incandescent lamps on the street and indoors on both cameras, then you will understand that SONY RAW cannot be processed ((. Skinton turns out to be strange. While Canon gets the colors right in one click.
your cat so cute - do not most pros shoot raw mostly - so there is always post work - yes I feel my a7 3 is always a bit cooler - but as I mod in post I does not bother me - Canon is sometimes to warm - but yes your comments are spot on -
It doesn't bother me either since I always do post work on my photos anyway, just wanted to answer some questions I noticed a lot of people having! Some people think that Sony sooc makes it harder to edit in post, but there's really such a minimal difference that you can change in the camera anyway so i wanted to show that :)
My Canon EOS 5 (A2/A2e) has the best skin tone...or is that cheating? This is incredibly subjective, just as film is. However, if I was a portrait/fashion/wedding photographer I would have moved over to Sony by now. Thank you, a great video as always.
Haha, not cheating at all! My favourite film stock is AGFA 200 which you'll rarely ever hear anyone say that. It ain't the sharpest or accurate with colours but the way it renders greens in landscape/travel shots and purples during sunsets is simply a look I love. It's why our personal family and travel albums are all filled with photos shot on agfa. Still always shot on a 35mm focal length, we can't shake that one no matter the camera. 😄
Dan Podbierezki I used to like the Fuji Pro 160ns, it had a strong pink/magenta tint, a pure portrait film but I loved it for 120 landscapes. Alas it’s been withdrawn, but considering Acros is coming back ns might make a return. AGFA 200 is the backbone of many a family album, it was wonderfully of the time. I’m convinced that when I remember the 70s and 80s my brain shot the memories with AGFA.
Must be a lot of Sony shooters here in the comments. It should be clear just from these examples that they aren’t the same and that a simple white balance tweak/tint isn’t enough. Look at the saturation and tonality differences in the skin tone transitions. It’s not as bad as the older Sonys, or the Panasonics, but it’s still visible.
Quick tip :) you can create custom camera profiles with X-rite Color Passport and than the colors science will match perfectly between the Canon and Sony. You have to use one and the same lens and the same light source (I use a flash). Second thing - lenses can produce different colors and the difference in WB can be due to the different lenses. PS you should try the A7rII or rIII ;) it is so much better for shooting in good light. Not because the pixel count but because of the colors. There are more colors :). I think that you will like it, I almost never use all of the 42m pixels but I really like the colors that I get out of it. And the option for a heavy crop is awesome sometimes.
First want to say love your videos! Great information! but don't hate me because Im going nitpick a little and curious on your thoughts : ) The second example used different shutter-speeds and like the 1st one, the 3rd comparison is allowing more light to hit the models face with the hair pulled back on the Sony image. Seems like the Sony a7 iii had more light in the three images than the canon. Could that be causing some of the minor differences being seen?
Thank you! Since I have the rest of the photos to look at as well, I picked photos to show the overall colour cast I could see in the rest of the photos shot in the same location. So while the lighting might be a little bit different I made sure to pick photos that I could see the same colour cast in throughout regardless of the lighting. So for example in the 3rd example, I had some photos where her hair was out of her face like the Sony shot (it was out of focus so I didn't include it) but it had the same colour cast as the one shown in the video with her hair causing more of a shadow. Hope that makes sense!
I just edited a portrait shot on MI A1 cheap smartphone and everyone was like dude thats a Canon DSLR Shot . So yeah if you know how to do post processing then what you should really be consider during buying a Camera is the dynamic range. Rest of the stuff you can edit them .
Jay Nikam the Dynamic range in todays cameras of usually much better then anyone usually needs. Except if you got the shot completely wrong and try to save what’s possible. But you are right, I shot many images with my phone as I had nothing else with me in certain situations and people would bet it was a DSLR
You can cancel out the difference in brands by shooting a Colour Checker Passport!. I have to shoot one for colour critical work as I’m red green colour blind!.
Hello Julia, thank you for your great vídeos! Sorry, this vídeo has 4 years, but do you remember by any chance how you use WB on your a7iii? AWB, AWB with any particular modification, WB profiles like Daylight, shadow, etc.?? I have had my camera for a year and I hate the skin tones every time and makes me so sad and it is so much work to fix it or many times make even worse... Could you help me please if you remember? Thank you so much!
m a Canon user and I feel that canon slightly underexposes each photo because of some calibration of its light meter or so. But I don't mind the greener tint (i got to know after seeing in this video side by side with sony). The pinkish tint of sony looks good but it will definitely be limited to just portraits since the CANON looks more true to life & that is what u need when shooting RAWs✌️
The 2nd generation of Sony E mount cameras had more a greenish look in their pictures. Lots of people told me Canon is more pinkish/red. Seems like it's the other way around now...
Have you tried C1 auto adjust, I saw a video on that with Irene Rudnyk, she used the free express version and C1 fixed the raw files automaticly and then some minor fixes after.
I think you totally miss the point. BTW I shoot in the past with Canon. Later with olympus and now with Sony.. 1. The changes in RAW are meaningless and profiles usually do nothing to raw. Only JPG. Many people shoot in JPG and there the color science of every brand makes a big difference. Many people just want to click and get a JPG. Your test should be with jpg with default changes instead. 2. For myself and other I asked on line I have a big problem with sony white balance when using FLASH as the main source of light (not just fill flash). The camera tend to produce in RAW and JPG very strange colors usually shifted dramatically towords the orange. I try some setup in the camera to prefer white as I was recommended to do but with no real success. The white balance in sony A7III is so bad that usually I play manually with the white balance in the sceen I plan to shot and adjust it to stay there as long I am using FLASH. I don't remember ever having such issues with the Olympus or Canon. This is the part where I hate my sony A7III not to mention the missing fully articulating LCD. However for portrait shot with the eye focus it is ggggrrrreeeeaaattttt!!!!!!!!!
Malenky I’m not sure about that. I think a lot more people are shooting JPEG then you think. I run a photo group on Meetup and you would be shocked at how many people don’t even have RAW converter software of any type. Not everyone is looking for pro results but they do want nice skin tones. With that in mind what comes directly out of the camera is important to those people.
Joe Alfano Photography i think many are actually shooting JPEG. I myself also tend to shoot 90% jpeg except for special shooting of one time moments, just to be save. But even then I never needed the RAW files. I try to get my shots right in the first place and usually never need to make so many corrections to it that a RAW file would be needed. In the end I often feel like I am wasting disk space. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely know of the benefits of RAW. But it’s just that all the time i used it (mostly shooting in Jpeg + RAW pairs) i was absolutely satisfied with the jpeg. Last time I was even pretty surprised how much information was left in the jpeg when I tried to bring back detail from highlights. There are occasions where I would still always use Raw, like landscape photography. But for most other things, after years of shooting in Raw, I started to omit that and use Jpeg most of the time
Alexander Winkler I agree. When digital cameras first came out RAW was more important. The processors in these first cameras were basic compared to today’s standards. You would get much better results processing the images off camera with software. With the advances in camera processors and their ability to produce outstanding JPEGs the need to use RAW converters has lessened dramatically. Sure RAW still has advantages but for most end use JPEGs are just fine.
Could you share de A7ii raw files and the 5D at the end to compare skin tones? In looking into the A7ii and wanted to see if what the skin tones look like
You said daylight time you prefer to use canon, night time you will use sony for better low light performance and AF assist. Does that mean Canon give better shooting experience in term of usage?
So glad you made this video. There are those that go on and on about “color science” when it’s really more about “editing science”. Thanks for pointing that out. Even when importing Sony RAW files into LR you can make a custom import preset to make them look exactly like Canon files. I shot Canon for several years and to be honest I like Sony color a bit more.
Thank you! Even easier if you really like what Canon looks like you can just change the Sony tint in the camera :D I personally like what sony raws look like, so I just leave them as is!
Julia, Have you used any Canon-to-Sony lens adapters like the Sigma MC or Metabones? I shoot with an old Canon 6D, would like to upgrade to a newer mirrorless. I have a number of Canon L lenses i really like. I've bought the Canon EOS R but found its user interface so....weird and un-direct, i returned it. The Sony A7iii looks appealing. I'm attracted to its reported great dynamic range (for landscapes), and eye focus. Second, any tips you can share for how you got comfortable with their menu system?...I've heard it can be very confusing. Thanks much, Craig
you will definitely , someday you wish to go back to Canon after the release of Canon R5 ,that will break Sony .. RF Series already has the best line up of lenses by far ..
Julia, thank you so much for the amazing content. Please forgive me if I missed this in the video, but what lens did you have on the Sony for this comparison?
I love this! Because I use a canon R6 (and 5div as backup) right now but id love to get the A7c as my backup for the autofocus but also because it would be a nice travel camera. I was worried about consistent editing but this made me feel so much better!
Finally somebody do a video explain this. Any camera have wrong or right color is just preference. Thank you so much for doing this ❤️ video. I was almost to the point to do this video myself because I'm so tired of people talking about this.
Beware, Pictures Profiles do affect RAWs, it's been proved by other youtubers. After having shot videos, better reset to PP off before shooting pictures ( RAW & JPG ).
Enjoyed with the informations. Here is my question, canon 5D- 3 & 4 are having good skin tones in its least picture controls or settings but I cannot reach the same results in my Sony A7iii with any of the settings. Am getting different colours in a different lighting so I need to change my profiles to reach least results again and again. Tell me good solutions for this in my camera.
Did you make the same WB ajustment on A7II temp up warm and tint down to green? I'm trying In camera colortemp/filter at A1 G1 I think One step to the right and One step up.. and also tried the oposite.
I don't even edit Raw files. I love how the Canon looks straight JPEG with my custom pic profile. I'm not a big fan of editing too much, though my monitor is not good so I can take advantage of shooting jpg and post it right away
Really nice comparison (it's hard to find these on youtube), thanks a lot, really sums up the whole thing between those two brands. At the end, the differences are slightly and easily adjustable in post, so thanks a lot for that!
I am just curious about what camera you use to shoot this video? I like the color of the video more than the photos straight out from both SONY and Canon cameras.
Yes they are. And it’s depending on what you’re doing. HELP needed: I make currently a smooth transition from DSLR to ML and since the a9II and a7R4 is available with enhanced weather sealing, I decided due to the awesome AF to switch from Nikon DSLR to Sony. I do a lot of photojournalism and I am used to get superb jpg image quality spot on of the Nikons utilising on camera flash. Of course I shoot also raw, in case of having (very seldom on Nikon) a bad JPG. Mostly in buildings having no daylight, you shoot normally ISO800 or ISO1600 at 1/160 and f/5.6 to f/8. This is typical for jobs like this, you must deliver quick and without doing a lot of editing in Lr, most convenient is jpgs sooc, wireless transferred to editors. I am doing this since ever, am no newbie and know exactly what I am doing using on camera flash at all thinkable light environment and how to get the best out of it. 🙈😱😱🙈 WHAT A SHOCK, when I saw the first time that image results of the Sonys (a9II and a7R4 equally bad) shot at described conditions. Unusable. A catastrophe. Shadows, specially eye brows, wrinkles have a super ugly orange/reddish tint and skin marks and stains are emphasised to the worst. It makes the people looking ugly and 20 years older. Any hints how to get rid of this? - Shooting wildlife, sports and action at daylight or floodlight no issues. Then it is joy to shoot the Sony system and it’s amazing AF. - Really appreciate any reply and help!
As a fellow Sony shooter i can attest, that this is true. And even worse, it also affects the raws. Sony CAN produce good Skintones in very (!) good Light (All of her examples!). BUT: Ive been shooting with an X-T5 privately and been comparing it against the a7mk4 (With G-Master Primes 35mm & 135mm, the best of the very best mind you!) and the Fuji with its third party viltrox 27mm 1.2 and 75mm 1.2 is absolutely DESTROYING SONY. Theres 1 out of 10 examples where i prefer the Sony Image. Fuji simply WIPES the floor with colours in Raw. The way the files respond i can easily get moody, absolutely GORGEOUS Portraits out of these Cameras for a THIRD of the money (oh and i have over 4 Years pro shooting exp. with Sony and none with Fuji just to add that)... and im ONLY talking Raw files, in JPEG its even worse!!! Ive tried everything, nothing brings Sony skintones to Fujis level... Canon idk
hi, maybe you already answered to this question, however, how do you set the same white balance in both camera? same "daylight" or other profiles or same WB in kelvin ? thanks in advance
I like dslr’s picture profile... there’s like substance, character into the photos. Sony is more into modern digital photos, and Dslr’s are more into film like look.
I tink the Sony file looks better. Not only the Skin tones. If you are comparing the highlights of the skin the conon files looks dull compared to the sony. Even with your presets i see a slide difference.
Fun comparison. I think both had pros and cons. I shoot Canon and am very happy with it. I will say I think the thought of a universal "Canon color" is a bit off. I have noticed a bit of a difference in color between my Canon bodies. For example, the 5DIII was a bit warmer and had seemed to accentuate red tones. The 5DIV I have found favors blue/greens as you observe in your video. I enjoyed both, and found the 5DIV colors are typically better for skin tones, especially when using a flash.
fun little fact with the Sony bodies is you can tune white balance in camera to save on workflow time. For example, I have my auto white balance set to be much warmer than Sony would choose and I also increase the pink for stylistic purposes.
Sony user here. The Sony skin tones were a lot greener before the the third generation came out. That's when Sony changed their 'color science'. Ironically, canons skin tones are a little green compared to the new Sony models. And this color science matters only if you shoot jpegs because when you process your photos, you're not gonna end up with the same colors SOOC.
This bad Sony colors thing will still get brought up even in 5 years from now.
I'm with you. Seems like the color science thing in canons favor coincides with every time they release a underwhelming camera. Marketing hype
People think it’s just a matter of a single tint one way or the other, but Sony still has more awkward transitions in those mid to lower tones.
One thing I have found is that different lens manufacturers have different color temps (I.e. Tamron is generally warmer, Sony cooler, etc)
Sigma is cooler toned as well. If I recall right, in theory, the blueish tone reduces chromatic aberrations?
yeah man, I've noticed that too. Lenses make the biggest difference in terms of skin tones IMO. My favourite for skin tones is my Helios 44-2. That thing just makes skin look superb.
Jeah indeed. The color differences in lenses is quite noteable. Even on Lenses from the same family/line. We compared the Canon 24-70 2,8L II and the 70-200 2,8L II which should be pretty much the same. but the magenta was noteable different.
Sony looks more "pinkish" comparing to Canon even after color correction. Nevertheless, I like Sony more. I'm Canon user btw.
Not true. If you color balance your camera then the Raw photos come out pretty even. If you start with a camera profile then yes they are different but you just have a different path to get to your look. In the end Camera color makes no difference unless you are a person that prints JPGs out of camera or rely on camera profiles for your look. Then again, you can use any preset balanced for your camera to achieve the same result.
I agree with you. I’m a canon user but I actually liked the pinker tones of the Sony. The heavier green kinda look alittle zombie-ish.
I hated that green tint! I sold my canon
Roger Huston definitely not. Color balance isn’t nearly enough.
SONY IS CRAP. they should focus on the playstation.... still lagging ages behind canon.
The color science anyone prefers now days is just a easy post processing fix no matter what camera it comes from. It's just personal preference on what you want... from camera to post processing software. Art is subjective and it's beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Its not easy. Hence why wedding photographers will have 2 sets of photos 1 with editing and grading and 1 documentary style. Thats where color science matters. These examples are controlled so it really doesnt matter but bulk editing sony files is a pain in the ass.
But I like your quotes of "wokeness" rofl...
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Very interesting. I've often felt that people just say Sony's colours are off cause they heard someone else say it and they follow the narrative. Either that or they used the v1 or v2 A7 models which weren't as good. I've always felt colour science is really only a problem if one shoots jpeg and doesn't edit their work.
Sony made major adjustments to color science when the A7r3 came out, and further refinements with the A73. They've gotten a LOT better, but the perception about bad color persists because of how bad their early offerings were.
A really important video that needed to be made, Julia. Personally, I found the Sony raw image looking more natural than the Canon. I was quite pleasantly surprised actually.
Could you do a video showing different skin tones of people of color? (Black, Asian, Indian tones) I think that would be a cool video to see the range from the two cameras! 💜✨
TheOctavian that video will get thumbs downed in a heartbeat. Sad reality
@@theyseemetrollintheycantwi1514 I would imagine she might have a hard time finding someone not caucasian in Sydney AU, to begin with. That's like going to the GAP looking for the FUBU hats...
Yes for sure! I can make another video in the future when I have some more examples to share 💛
Photo-Me-Ike FUBU 😂😂😂 I ain’t no she was in Sydney. Makes sense now
By implication you think white people are devoid of colour 🤦♂️
My Sony files always have a greenish tint compared to my Canon files. Opposite to your results. But a very easy fix like you stated.
I get that to, green tint on my Sony A7ii
I think it’s more than just a different color tone you can easily fix. Shooting Portraits side by side often reveals unwanted color tones especially in dark areas like shadows on the skin. Sony tends to produce green tones and others on the skin. You may not see it without comparing it to a canon image, but if you do the differences are often pretty obvious. The problem is you can’t just fix those afterwards without heavily manual work on each area. Something no one usually wants to do
Color science thing is way overblown by Canon users. Thank you for shining some light on this subject.
You are forgetting that the Sony skin tones and colors were absolute garbage before their current 3rd gen cameras. Go shoot with an a7 or a7ii and behold the awful skin tones and colors. Unless you like your models to look like they have jaundice
And still Canon & even Panasonic colors look much better than Sony's. I personally was aghast how dismal Sony looked when the 3 were cut in a sequence.
@Izabalphoto That sounds like some serious concrete scientific evidence. Thanks for sharing your findings.
Awesome job matching the skin tones. I used to criticize Sony skintones like eveyone else. But these new Gen 3 cams (A7RIII/A7III) and even 4th gen (A6400/A7RIV) are much more pleasing straight out of cam (in Natural light)
Photo-Me-Ike what’s your opinion of the overall look of the Sony photos compared to Nikon, canon etc.
SONY defects in color science are from mixed lighting conditions, especially at night or in the studio. It's a pain in the neck to correct them all.
Hi please correct me if I'm wrong. You are not really comparing colors of Canon vs Sony but rather Adobe's interpretation of those RAW images. In LR you can assign color profiles of Sony or Canon to the RAW files to simulate the real brands colors or maybe even better you should compare jpges out of two brands or use native Sony and Canon RAW converters to really compare the colors.
Other than that nice video that shows that with any camera we can achieve same results.
JPEG would be the real comparison
Thanks! I have the raw + jpg sooc, which look the same as the images I included in this video. I also made sure to look at them both on a bunch of different programs so that any software or profiles don't ruin the integrity of my personal observations!
I'm a canon user but I think Sony wins this round, but a lil lightroom editing fixes that up right away. My fuji blows them both out of the water though =p
Don't lie yourself lol 😉
JS MANA CHANNEL exactly what I thought lol
He is correct Fuji is so underrated. The colors from Fuji Straight out of Camera are better than Sony for sure. I have had Sony cameras and they are all the same. The skin tones are off. It takes a ton of work to try to fix skin tones.
I'm super keen to try Fuji soon!
Size 10 Soles I don’t know what “a tonne of work is”. Julia literally made 1 -2 minor tweaks.
Color tones are affected by the lens not the sensor. I find canon lenses have warmer (more orange) tones than for instance sigma lenses on the same canon camera
I think exactly the same, the real difference is the lens
I adapted all my Canon glass to my Sony and the colors were way different. The colors on A7ii are way different than my A7iii with all the same glass as well so I would say this theory is a bust.
@@garthzutautas125 sensors and processors have been updated with every generation of Sony cameras (mainly because they were pretty terrible to start). It's a mix of all the parts of the camera that get you a RAW file to start with. Some are better than others and everyone has their preference.
stephen heraldo Okay cool I’m just letting original poster know that colours come from the sensor and not the lenses. The lenses can have a slight affect on colour but the colour science is related to the electronics and it the glass.
@@garthzutautas9063 I think mean to reply to the original poster as well. I think we're all in agreement that it's all parts of the camera/lenses that affect color, and each manufacturer has their preferred color formulas, just like back in the film days.
Thank you for this. Can you do this with someone with dark or brown skin? That's where I feel Sony has trouble. Even shooting in raw and trying to post-process, I can never get it to look natural or as pleasing as Canon. Would love to switch to Sony otherwise. Sony has been amazing with their releases.
Yes for sure! I can do this video again in the future when I have some more comparisons to share :)
Hmm, that's is the secret sauce that Canon has. All of us are trying to get this in the post, but why? There still seems to be a reason we all don't know why do we have to try a look at Canon colors. I am a Nikon shooter and have a Canon picture profile in my camera. It's just easy to get around the post to try and get this science if you have the Canon picture profile. It's only us photographers know this not the clients. But why do we still crave for it? Is still my question.
Not all of us.. Just you and I guess your friends. I shoot Nikon and love the look I get from it and have no need to make my Nikons look like the Canon. Or else I would just buy a Canon..
The other thing people have to consider is that their photos will be viewed on so many different devices with varying display types, so being too nit-picky about the colours seems a bit pointless when the goal is to share the photo via social media. So just get it looking how you want it to without spending half of your day making micro adjustments, get it uploaded, then start working on something new!
This is odd, I use both cameras as well and my findings are the opposite- canon had more pink tint whereas the Sony is greener. The main issue is the luminance in combination with color of skin tones, the Sony looks more "plasticky", digital. I prefer the 5D MKIV color science.
I’m not sure the monitor is calibrated. Maybe both of you will have different colors compared to others.
Sony cameras, buy two of A7S3s and tint will be different.
When you get skin tone that are pink or red it sometimes means the sensor is letting in IR contamination. Its worth checking your blacks to see if one is more black or brown than the other to confirm if it really is IR contamination at play? In your test my prefernce is Canon image straight out of the camera.
Sony certainty not bad..but you see true difference when you shoot difficult skin tones like south Asian people like India...
Yoh should watch Sean Tucker's video on this. Its very interesting
@@kentaaruga4765 I am already a subscriber of his channel and already watched his video on similar topic. It is difficult to prove difference of Canon color science..many people claims that they can match colors in post processing..not entirely false...It is as difficult as proving Nikon or Sony users that there always be green tint in shadow area and yellow in skin tones. I think you should stay with whatever you like Sony, Nikon, Canon...Fuji...whatever it may be...
Well - it is interesting.....I guess the answer to the never ending conundrum lies in this: if you are rushing out of the house which camera would you be inclined to pick up?
You have to compare with the same optics. Glasses also have a color rendering.
I'm a Canon user by starting to like Sony more and more. Thanks for the video Julia!
Thank you! I'm so sick and tired of people talking about the "Canon skin tones". I used to be a Canon shooter and switched to Sony about a year ago. I shoot weddings and landscapes and I love the way that the Sony looks and edits in both genres, if that makes sense. I enjoy even more how easy it is to quickly get a good color grade in video from the A7 III, I use Cine4.
People are so stuck in their ways. Canon used to win Skin Tones HANDS DOWN, but times have evolved and now other manufacturers stepped up their games.
I think that hype comes from the old Nikoj vs. Canon
1) The comparison of the girl against the wall - cameras were at different shutter speeds. Camera sensors will react differently to color sensitivity at different levels of exposure. Under/overexposing, technically, will cause a camera to represent color slightly different. One camera was at 1/480 of a second, the other was at 1/320. Hard to make a color comparison if your settings aren't the same across the board.
2) The photo before that - even though you said they look the same, they didn't. The left was clearly bluish. What was the white balance setting for any of these photos? Manually set or automatic?
3) What would have better displayed accurate skintone representation across cameras would have been a look at histograms and vectorscopes and using power windows/masks to isolate skin on their face.
Just so everyone is clear on this, color straight out of the camera when shooting still photos is more important if you are just shooting JPG files. When shooting raw, you fine-tune the color with the raw convertor. Speaking of that, I shoot Sony and use Capture One for my raw processing. The Capture One people have worked extensively with Sony to get great processing results.
Hello from Kyiv Ukraine. I am a Sony shooter. I always shoot a colour checker for the first shots of each group to be sure of exact colour match between cameras/lenses and to get the correct white balance. I not saying you should but this is what I do and it takes no time at all. You can balance the colours between camera brands using this.
I mentioned this briefly in the video that you can change the white balance/tint in the camera so you don't have to do it in post :)
Which camera your using now for this video... Video clarity was awesome and you looking amazing... 💜
Sony wins hands down.
The Sony dro is very fantastic.
Maybe if you're shooting in JPEG
@@jheelan I shoot raw always, even in Jpeng Sony is fantastic.
i dont know why, but when comparing a9 vs eos RP, although a9 is way more better in overall details, with same setting Canon RP looks better.
to fix Canon set the WB to Amber and Magenta a bit.
Canon people are going crazy about this Canon color science thing, and I don't get it. I've always though the 'Canon colors' they talk about, are way too warm to start with, but of course that's just my opinion. Also, after the Sony edit, Canon colors just looked grey in comparison, and Sony way better, IMO.
Thank you!
Also try to take portrait shots with warm incandescent lamps on the street and indoors on both cameras, then you will understand that SONY RAW cannot be processed ((. Skinton turns out to be strange. While Canon gets the colors right in one click.
Yes I get lots of green/jellow skintones
would’ve loved to see a comparison on a range of skin tones
I'd love to make another video or even a blog post sharing some more comparisons when I have them :)
your cat so cute - do not most pros shoot raw mostly - so there is always post work - yes I feel my a7 3 is always a bit cooler - but as I mod in post I does not bother me - Canon is sometimes to warm - but yes your comments are spot on -
It doesn't bother me either since I always do post work on my photos anyway, just wanted to answer some questions I noticed a lot of people having! Some people think that Sony sooc makes it harder to edit in post, but there's really such a minimal difference that you can change in the camera anyway so i wanted to show that :)
My Canon EOS 5 (A2/A2e) has the best skin tone...or is that cheating?
This is incredibly subjective, just as film is. However, if I was a portrait/fashion/wedding photographer I would have moved over to Sony by now.
Thank you, a great video as always.
Haha, not cheating at all! My favourite film stock is AGFA 200 which you'll rarely ever hear anyone say that. It ain't the sharpest or accurate with colours but the way it renders greens in landscape/travel shots and purples during sunsets is simply a look I love. It's why our personal family and travel albums are all filled with photos shot on agfa. Still always shot on a 35mm focal length, we can't shake that one no matter the camera. 😄
Dan Podbierezki I used to like the Fuji Pro 160ns, it had a strong pink/magenta tint, a pure portrait film but I loved it for 120 landscapes. Alas it’s been withdrawn, but considering Acros is coming back ns might make a return.
AGFA 200 is the backbone of many a family album, it was wonderfully of the time. I’m convinced that when I remember the 70s and 80s my brain shot the memories with AGFA.
Julia this is so imp info.
I never liked sony colors.
By this, can sony really achieve canon colors?
Must be a lot of Sony shooters here in the comments. It should be clear just from these examples that they aren’t the same and that a simple white balance tweak/tint isn’t enough. Look at the saturation and tonality differences in the skin tone transitions. It’s not as bad as the older Sonys, or the Panasonics, but it’s still visible.
Quick tip :) you can create custom camera profiles with X-rite Color Passport and than the colors science will match perfectly between the Canon and Sony. You have to use one and the same lens and the same light source (I use a flash).
Second thing - lenses can produce different colors and the difference in WB can be due to the different lenses.
PS you should try the A7rII or rIII ;) it is so much better for shooting in good light. Not because the pixel count but because of the colors. There are more colors :). I think that you will like it, I almost never use all of the 42m pixels but I really like the colors that I get out of it. And the option for a heavy crop is awesome sometimes.
Your comment about the lenses is spot on. Different brands especially....
First want to say love your videos! Great information! but don't hate me because Im going nitpick a little and curious on your thoughts : ) The second example used different shutter-speeds and like the 1st one, the 3rd comparison is allowing more light to hit the models face with the hair pulled back on the Sony image. Seems like the Sony a7 iii had more light in the three images than the canon. Could that be causing some of the minor differences being seen?
At identical setting the Sony is still a little brighter, I had a 5DIII and an A7III
Thank you! Since I have the rest of the photos to look at as well, I picked photos to show the overall colour cast I could see in the rest of the photos shot in the same location. So while the lighting might be a little bit different I made sure to pick photos that I could see the same colour cast in throughout regardless of the lighting. So for example in the 3rd example, I had some photos where her hair was out of her face like the Sony shot (it was out of focus so I didn't include it) but it had the same colour cast as the one shown in the video with her hair causing more of a shadow. Hope that makes sense!
Julia, please make a video on these two cameras to see how they perform, features, pros and cons of both. Thx
What should I choose to start my photography business? Canon 6D mark II or Sony a7 II (for potraits and small events)
I just edited a portrait shot on MI A1 cheap smartphone and everyone was like dude thats a Canon DSLR Shot . So yeah if you know how to do post processing then what you should really be consider during buying a Camera is the dynamic range. Rest of the stuff you can edit them .
Jay Nikam the Dynamic range in todays cameras of usually much better then anyone usually needs. Except if you got the shot completely wrong and try to save what’s possible. But you are right, I shot many images with my phone as I had nothing else with me in certain situations and people would bet it was a DSLR
You can cancel out the difference in brands by shooting a Colour Checker Passport!. I have to shoot one for colour critical work as I’m red green colour blind!.
Unfortunately the color differences are a lot more complicated than that. You can make them both more similar, but still not the same.
What are the benefits of using two different brands of cameras at a shoot? As opposed to just using two Canons or two Sony’s with different lenses?
Hello Julia, thank you for your great vídeos! Sorry, this vídeo has 4 years, but do you remember by any chance how you use WB on your a7iii? AWB, AWB with any particular modification, WB profiles like Daylight, shadow, etc.?? I have had my camera for a year and I hate the skin tones every time and makes me so sad and it is so much work to fix it or many times make even worse... Could you help me please if you remember? Thank you so much!
Do you have a video showing your settings inside the camera? Do you just do AWB or Kelvin? I am having such a hard time liking the Sony photos
nice review. what about a new video Sony a7iv vs Canon r6?
m a Canon user and I feel that canon slightly underexposes each photo because of some calibration of its light meter or so. But I don't mind the greener tint (i got to know after seeing in this video side by side with sony). The pinkish tint of sony looks good but it will definitely be limited to just portraits since the CANON looks more true to life & that is what u need when shooting RAWs✌️
I loved the little Lightroom tip for the skin tone! I am a new A7iii user, hope to see more on location videos from you with the A7iii.
The 2nd generation of Sony E mount cameras had more a greenish look in their pictures. Lots of people told me Canon is more pinkish/red. Seems like it's the other way around now...
Just use a COLORCHECKER PASSPORT to calibrate you camera or just use C1.. way easier!
Have you tried C1 auto adjust, I saw a video on that with Irene Rudnyk, she used the free express version and C1 fixed the raw files automaticly and then some minor fixes after.
@@dennishumbla5431 C1 auto adjust works pretty good as a starting point..
Hey julia cool video,your audio is always on point,which audio set up do you use?!
I think you totally miss the point. BTW I shoot in the past with Canon. Later with olympus and now with Sony..
1. The changes in RAW are meaningless and profiles usually do nothing to raw. Only JPG.
Many people shoot in JPG and there the color science of every brand makes a big difference. Many people just want to click and get a JPG. Your test should be with jpg with default changes instead.
2. For myself and other I asked on line I have a big problem with sony white balance when using FLASH as the main source of light (not just fill flash). The camera tend to produce in RAW and JPG very strange colors usually shifted dramatically towords the orange. I try some setup in the camera to prefer white as I was recommended to do but with no real success.
The white balance in sony A7III is so bad that usually I play manually with the white balance in the sceen I plan to shot and adjust it to stay there as long I am using FLASH.
I don't remember ever having such issues with the Olympus or Canon.
This is the part where I hate my sony A7III not to mention the missing fully articulating LCD. However for portrait shot with the eye focus it is ggggrrrreeeeaaattttt!!!!!!!!!
The intersection of people shooting only jpeg and people who are fussy about skin tones is surely incredibly small.
Malenky I’m not sure about that. I think a lot more people are shooting JPEG then you think. I run a photo group on Meetup and you would be shocked at how many people don’t even have RAW converter software of any type. Not everyone is looking for pro results but they do want nice skin tones. With that in mind what comes directly out of the camera is important to those people.
Joe Alfano Photography i think many are actually shooting JPEG. I myself also tend to shoot 90% jpeg except for special shooting of one time moments, just to be save. But even then I never needed the RAW files. I try to get my shots right in the first place and usually never need to make so many corrections to it that a RAW file would be needed. In the end I often feel like I am wasting disk space. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely know of the benefits of RAW. But it’s just that all the time i used it (mostly shooting in Jpeg + RAW pairs) i was absolutely satisfied with the jpeg. Last time I was even pretty surprised how much information was left in the jpeg when I tried to bring back detail from highlights. There are occasions where I would still always use Raw, like landscape photography. But for most other things, after years of shooting in Raw, I started to omit that and use Jpeg most of the time
Alexander Winkler I agree. When digital cameras first came out RAW was more important. The processors in these first cameras were basic compared to today’s standards. You would get much better results processing the images off camera with software. With the advances in camera processors and their ability to produce outstanding JPEGs the need to use RAW converters has lessened dramatically. Sure RAW still has advantages but for most end use JPEGs are just fine.
At 6:19 what adjustment would you recommend to change the white balance of sony's camera system to best look like canon's SOOC?
Do you have a video of your settings? Im getting a green tint with my sony.
In the night without a flash, Sony tends to have a yellow tint by using auto WB. How is your experience?
Do you use AWB or Kelvin for Sony? I've dialed in some magenta to my Sony because the GM lenses tint the images slightly green IMO.
I have also notices green skintones In shadows on my A7ii. Does that setting you dialed in help?
@@dennishumbla5431 i think so, i've decreased it to .25
Could you share de A7ii raw files and the 5D at the end to compare skin tones? In looking into the A7ii and wanted to see if what the skin tones look like
You said daylight time you prefer to use canon, night time you will use sony for better low light performance and AF assist. Does that mean Canon give better shooting experience in term of usage?
Thank you for sharing. I love your video so much because you make me easy to find the right camera for me...
So glad you made this video. There are those that go on and on about “color science” when it’s really more about “editing science”. Thanks for pointing that out. Even when importing Sony RAW files into LR you can make a custom import preset to make them look exactly like Canon files. I shot Canon for several years and to be honest I like Sony color a bit more.
Thank you! Even easier if you really like what Canon looks like you can just change the Sony tint in the camera :D I personally like what sony raws look like, so I just leave them as is!
Adobe color vs camera neutral or faithful will produce different colors/contrast in lightroom tho
very good, I really enjoyed the comparison and how you explain the differences in the details. congratulations!
I think it's cool that you're willing to show people how to color match the two. New subscriber
Excellent. Thank you for running these tests!
Julia, Have you used any Canon-to-Sony lens adapters like the Sigma MC or Metabones? I shoot with an old Canon 6D, would like to upgrade to a newer mirrorless. I have a number of Canon L lenses i really like. I've bought the Canon EOS R but found its user interface so....weird and un-direct, i returned it. The Sony A7iii looks appealing. I'm attracted to its reported great dynamic range (for landscapes), and eye focus. Second, any tips you can share for how you got comfortable with their menu system?...I've heard it can be very confusing. Thanks much, Craig
I really love skin tone of my daughter that I have gotten from Sony A7III with 24mm GM and 85 mm f1.8. It made me never thought to get back to Canon.
you will definitely , someday you wish to go back to Canon after the release of Canon R5 ,that will break Sony .. RF Series already has the best line up of lenses by far ..
Great video content, thanks for making these!
This makes me feel so much better about my purchase. Thank you!
Julia, thank you so much for the amazing content. Please forgive me if I missed this in the video, but what lens did you have on the Sony for this comparison?
Nice match to match
did you do something with your studio sound setup? It sounds warmer and richer.
I love this! Because I use a canon R6 (and 5div as backup) right now but id love to get the A7c as my backup for the autofocus but also because it would be a nice travel camera. I was worried about consistent editing but this made me feel so much better!
Finally somebody do a video explain this. Any camera have wrong or right color is just preference. Thank you so much for doing this ❤️ video. I was almost to the point to do this video myself because I'm so tired of people talking about this.
Beware, Pictures Profiles do affect RAWs, it's been proved by other youtubers. After having shot videos, better reset to PP off before shooting pictures ( RAW & JPG ).
They do affect raws, but as soon as you import to Lightroom, bridge or any other raw editing program you can reset back to default!
is it just me or do the highlights roll of a bit smoother on the canon?
Enjoyed with the informations. Here is my question, canon 5D- 3 & 4 are having good skin tones in its least picture controls or settings but I cannot reach the same results in my Sony A7iii with any of the settings. Am getting different colours in a different lighting so I need to change my profiles to reach least results again and again. Tell me good solutions for this in my camera.
At times i feel that canon's dsp adds warmth to the colors after an image is captured by the sensor.
still relevant, at least to me! thanks for the effort and the sharing. i am an appreciative subscriber. i hope you and dan stay well. thumbs up.
I really like your content. I just about to start to photograph and you're channel is a great help to learn a lot of new stuff
Hi Julia! after adjusting the white balance, wouldn't applying a preset negate that change to the white balance? love your vid!
Yes! That's why when I pasted the preset I unticked white balance and tint, so it wouldn't affect what we just adjusted :) And thank you!
@@juliatrotti I am in love with my a7iii all over again because of this video. Thank you! Cheers!!
It would have been interesting to compare after setting custom white balance on both cameras using a WB card (e.g., whibal)
Did you make the same WB ajustment on A7II temp up warm and tint down to green? I'm trying In camera colortemp/filter at A1 G1 I think One step to the right and One step up.. and also tried the oposite.
Great comparison I prefer the look of the Sony pictures. 👍 It's sad that I had to sell my A7iii will be getting the A9 hopefully soon.
It's sooo useful! Thank you so much!
Absolutely Amazing video Julia Trotti..
I don't even edit Raw files. I love how the Canon looks straight JPEG with my custom pic profile. I'm not a big fan of editing too much, though my monitor is not good so I can take advantage of shooting jpg and post it right away
Really nice comparison (it's hard to find these on youtube), thanks a lot, really sums up the whole thing between those two brands. At the end, the differences are slightly and easily adjustable in post, so thanks a lot for that!
Thank you so much!
You are the best Julia! 🔝🔝♥️
I am just curious about what camera you use to shoot this video? I like the color of the video more than the photos straight out from both SONY and Canon cameras.
Video was filmed on Sony A7sii 😄
Yes they are. And it’s depending on what you’re doing. HELP needed: I make currently a smooth transition from DSLR to ML and since the a9II and a7R4 is available with enhanced weather sealing, I decided due to the awesome AF to switch from Nikon DSLR to Sony. I do a lot of photojournalism and I am used to get superb jpg image quality spot on of the Nikons utilising on camera flash. Of course I shoot also raw, in case of having (very seldom on Nikon) a bad JPG. Mostly in buildings having no daylight, you shoot normally ISO800 or ISO1600 at 1/160 and f/5.6 to f/8. This is typical for jobs like this, you must deliver quick and without doing a lot of editing in Lr, most convenient is jpgs sooc, wireless transferred to editors. I am doing this since ever, am no newbie and know exactly what I am doing using on camera flash at all thinkable light environment and how to get the best out of it. 🙈😱😱🙈 WHAT A SHOCK, when I saw the first time that image results of the Sonys (a9II and a7R4 equally bad) shot at described conditions. Unusable. A catastrophe. Shadows, specially eye brows, wrinkles have a super ugly orange/reddish tint and skin marks and stains are emphasised to the worst. It makes the people looking ugly and 20 years older. Any hints how to get rid of this? - Shooting wildlife, sports and action at daylight or floodlight no issues. Then it is joy to shoot the Sony system and it’s amazing AF. - Really appreciate any reply and help!
As a fellow Sony shooter i can attest, that this is true. And even worse, it also affects the raws. Sony CAN produce good Skintones in very (!) good Light (All of her examples!). BUT: Ive been shooting with an X-T5 privately and been comparing it against the a7mk4 (With G-Master Primes 35mm & 135mm, the best of the very best mind you!) and the Fuji with its third party viltrox 27mm 1.2 and 75mm 1.2 is absolutely DESTROYING SONY. Theres 1 out of 10 examples where i prefer the Sony Image. Fuji simply WIPES the floor with colours in Raw. The way the files respond i can easily get moody, absolutely GORGEOUS Portraits out of these Cameras for a THIRD of the money (oh and i have over 4 Years pro shooting exp. with Sony and none with Fuji just to add that)... and im ONLY talking Raw files, in JPEG its even worse!!! Ive tried everything, nothing brings Sony skintones to Fujis level... Canon idk
hi, maybe you already answered to this question, however, how do you set the same white balance in both camera? same "daylight" or other profiles or same WB in kelvin ? thanks in advance
maybe I saw you put 5200K on both cameras
I like dslr’s picture profile... there’s like substance, character into the photos. Sony is more into modern digital photos, and Dslr’s are more into film like look.
I tink the Sony file looks better. Not only the Skin tones. If you are comparing the highlights of the skin the conon files looks dull compared to the sony. Even with your presets i see a slide difference.
Fun comparison. I think both had pros and cons. I shoot Canon and am very happy with it. I will say I think the thought of a universal "Canon color" is a bit off. I have noticed a bit of a difference in color between my Canon bodies. For example, the 5DIII was a bit warmer and had seemed to accentuate red tones. The 5DIV I have found favors blue/greens as you observe in your video. I enjoyed both, and found the 5DIV colors are typically better for skin tones, especially when using a flash.
You are my new favorite photographer