Where do you get all the old photos from Steve? They add an amazing dimension to your wonderful knack for telling a story. A very true story at that . The casts of the hob nail boots look like coppers boots. You can see why suspicion fell on her fiance was suspected. Another brilliant episode mate. I always look forward to them.
@thehangmansrecord2860 well Steve it's a record of british capital cases that must be unsurpassed. I hang waiting in anticipation of your posts mate. Been reading your books since "pierpoint a family... "
Another great story Steve and a shining example of the use of forensics in investigations. The positive match of the sand on the trousers and the fibre on the jacket although convincing was not a clincher. The impression of his boot next to the body was devasting to the defence and his story of her clothes falling off as she fell to the ground finally put the rope around his neck. Justice Served!!!!! Bernard Spilsbury was a trail blazer in forensics and when I was serving as a detective was still spoken about with awe and reverence!!! I dont know if you are aware He eventually took his own life following the death of his son. Tragic end.
Nice to encounter Sir Bernard Spilsbury again in this series! I think the jury posed a valid question as to whether an unintended killing committed during an actual intended crime was in fact murder and the judge's answer could have been construed as misdirection, but the fact that she was strangled with her own scarf (very difficult to believe that it was accidental!) and the tearing of her clothing (from merely being grabbed by the front as she fell?) tells me at least that the jury brought in the correct verdict.
Video suggestion: often we’ve heard that executioners and their assistants have been to Home Office training. It would be really interesting to find out what they were taught and see the course details.
Thank you, Steve Fielding, for yet another informative, thoroughly researched and clearly presented edition of this truly excellent series. More cases, please! And may I request once again that you cover the George Kelly case (1949-50), the Burns and Devlin case (1951-52) and the James Hanratty case (1961-62). Also: are you considering presenting on the Alfred Moore case (1951-52)?
What a tragic story,poor girl came to a horrible end,,its amazing how quick the police were to find the man,considering the year 1937,the technology they didn't have ,,they should be applauded ❤
Another excellent video. Really not looking forward to the day when you have covered all the cases that you are able to and are not able to produce anymore of these videos. Do you have any plans of what you are going to do after that and will we still be seeing more publications of 'Tales From The Hangman's Record'?
I have a second channel called Crime Casebook in which I will feature all types of cases not in the scope of the Hangman's Record. I had hoped to have this up and running now but with my teaching and also gigging with my band at weekends I haven't enough time at present to do both. I still have plenty of cases to go at yet with The Hangman's Record, enough for another year or two at least :)
I think being on a jury for a capital offence would be terrible, even without any doubt of the offenders guilty it is the jury who decided the fate of the man or woman. I often wonder how the jurors on the Timothy Evans case felt when 3 years later they found out that an innocent man was hanged.
@alibenkahn5092 I honestly do think he did, Christie had a pretty bad record with killing people. Of course we will never know know. The only people are Evans and Christie
Another great presentation and a very sad case.I note in one of the comments made as to what plans you have when the series comes to an end.I was just thinking would a series on executions in the US be a tall order?.Best wishes on what ever you decide.Cheers Jim
This was another interesting listen That information about the rope placement was abit morbid for me but also the science that went into this was kinda interesting! I could never do that job. Thanks for sharing this episode 👍
Ruby Keen was the name of one of the murder victims in Agatha Christie's The Body In The Library, written five years later. It seems too unusual a name for that to have been a coincidence, and it has left me wondering whether Dame Agatha used any other real victims' names. Seems in rather poor taste to me.
See 11.03 mins into the video. I don't think double yellow lines would have been painted on the street as they only came into use in 1960 ! Excellent video, though.
.... Section 51 of the Road Traffic Act 1960 .... although they first appeared (alongside single yellow lines) and Parking Meters in London in 1958 .... m:)
I dated one of James Hanratty's neices a couple of years ago, lovely lady, mad for breeding Tarantula Spiders though... Great one Steve, keep up the good work bro !!!
Great story Steve. What a macabre way to treat an ex-girlfriend by strangling them and tearing their clothes off. He wasn’t very bright if he contacted the authorities to clear his name. That’s the nature of criminality in wanting to bask in the glory of offending without the consequences. He probably had sociopathic or narcissistic tendencies. As a crime of passion he would still have been hanged. There were no extenuating circumstances even if the evidence was at best coincidental in regards to the suit. His shoes were a give away but again plenty of ex-servicemen would have had similar boots. If he had kept quiet his appeal might have had more mileage, a jury would not have been unanimous and the death sentence would have been commuted to life in prison or even an acquittal because of a mistrial. Luck was not on his side especially with a judge who was suspicious of the defendants character. A better defence would have been to deny all knowledge of this girl who though engaged still went on a romantic walk down a well known lovers lane. I’m not victim blaming but she had played a part in her own downfall.
@@shaunelliott2967 I've done the story in a couple of my books but until I can find a pic of Caldwell and Barrett I have on plans to do that as a stand alone case
I love how fast the trials were back in the day. USA trials far too long and takes forever for cases to even reach court. Also in USA people receive the justice they can or cannot afford.
Ruby Keen RIP Undoubtedly died during a desperate struggle for her young life, but 1 detail in this tragic tale seemed out of place with the violence used. On 1st finding her body Frank Cox before going to alert Police removed his own coat & used it to cover the dead girl's shame, This is a tender act done by a man who deeply felt the loss of humanity!
Strictly speaking,the jet engine was tested a good bit earlier than 1937,Henri Coanda,the Romanian engineer, demonstrated his "propulsor"jet engine in 1910.
I wonder the extent to which this case inspired/influenced Agatha Christie when she came up with the name of one of the characters in "The Body in the Library"...
@@wendesmith6240 .... also AC lived in Sunningdale, Ascot at one point and wrote in 1929 - The Sunningdale Mystery - in that year was a real murder there - a Frenchwoman shot dead her French lover in a taxi-cab on the way to the railway-station and the London train .... she then shot herself dead .... m:)
As one who has practiced law in the States for three decades, I can’t help but cringe when I hear of judges summing up. Here it’s grounds for a mistrial or worse if the judge comments on the facts of the case. It’s thought that due to the enormous power the judge has and the deference he commands within those courtroom walls, the jury might be unduly influenced by the opinions of a single individual.
This type of crime has to be one of the most despicable, and saddest. Another excellent presentation. Having not seen all 76 videos, (I'll get around to them), it's quite likely that you've covered the Christie/Evans event but as you've mentioned it here I thought for the benefit of those labouring under the impression that Evans was innocent and wrongly hanged.. it's a common misconception, I'd try to clarify.. Evans was pardoned for the murder that he was hanged for, that was the killing of Geraldine, the couple's baby. He was never tried for the murder of his wife. The police were certain that he had murdered his wife but English law does not allow for someone to be tried for two murders at the same time. They chose to prosecute for the murder of the child as it would not allow for a plea of self-defence. The final enquiry, The Brabin Enquiry, found that he was not guilty of the murder of Geraldine but 'accepted' that he was guilty of the murder of his wife. He was therefore pardoned for Geraldine's murder and his body exhumed and re-buried in consecrated ground... it obviously being too late to try him for the murder of his wife.
People were tried for more than one murder in one trial after the Homicide Act (1957) as murder "on a different occasion" was a specific form of capital murder and before the Act it was not absolute that u were only tried for one case although it was very common as in the Evans case .... m:)
hi steve, had they been hoping that allen would take over from baxter who had retired in 35 as the london hangman to save money on expenses, ithink he had done 2 at oxford a3 at the ville but was not up to the job.
Baxter was pensioned off due to poor eyesight at the end of 1935. Allen had carried out an execution at Oxford in 1932 because I believe Tom P was temporarily off the list. He had been sent some new terms and conditions re the official secrets act which he had failed to return until later that autumn. Thus when Hutchinson was sentenced, and with Baxter presumably already engaged elsewhere or unavailable, Allen was promoted. This was despite Wilson and Phillips having much more seniority at the time. Allen had assisted at the previous Oxford execution and perhaps had made a good impression. I failed to mention in the video that it was the first time Tom P had officiated as a chief at Pentonville at Stone's execution.
I'm glad you covered this story Steve. I live a mile away from the murder scene. I also know modern day relatives of the victim.
Another great case, thanks for the "then and now" photo's Steve, adds a lot to the story.
RIP Ruby.
It’s always a great day when Steve pops up in your feed with a new video! Now what to do until the premiere..... 😁
Thank you :)
Yes it really is an excellent channel
I just hang around. Waiting
Go to the seaside and point at the pier.
Where do you get all the old photos from Steve? They add an amazing dimension to your wonderful knack for telling a story. A very true story at that . The casts of the hob nail boots look like coppers boots. You can see why suspicion fell on her fiance was suspected. Another brilliant episode mate. I always look forward to them.
Over the last 40 or so years I have amassed a large collection of photos from a variety of sources some official some not quite :)
@thehangmansrecord2860 well Steve it's a record of british capital cases that must be unsurpassed. I hang waiting in anticipation of your posts mate. Been reading your books since "pierpoint a family... "
Thanks Steve for a just tale of another murderer who met his end justly.
Have a great week!
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Another great story Steve and a shining example of the use of forensics in investigations. The positive match of the sand on the trousers and the fibre on the jacket although convincing was not a clincher. The impression of his boot next to the body was devasting to the defence and his story of her clothes falling off as she fell to the ground finally put the rope around his neck. Justice Served!!!!! Bernard Spilsbury was a trail blazer in forensics and when I was serving as a detective was still spoken about with awe and reverence!!! I dont know if you are aware He eventually took his own life following the death of his son. Tragic end.
Nice to encounter Sir Bernard Spilsbury again in this series! I think the jury posed a valid question as to whether an unintended killing committed during an actual intended crime was in fact murder and the judge's answer could have been construed as misdirection, but the fact that she was strangled with her own scarf (very difficult to believe that it was accidental!) and the tearing of her clothing (from merely being grabbed by the front as she fell?) tells me at least that the jury brought in the correct verdict.
Thank you so much for another excellent video, as always so well researched and told!
Fantastic production Steve. Thank you so much. Cheers from Australia
I agree with your comment. Cheers, from a subscriber in Sydney.
Great episode Steve. Thanks, Bob
Your narration makes the video all the more interesting.👍👍👍
Love how you show present day photos of the crime scenes.
Keep up the good work
Another fascinating and well researched case.
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Video suggestion: often we’ve heard that executioners and their assistants have been to Home Office training.
It would be really interesting to find out what they were taught and see the course details.
@@marcusnz232 that's something I have also been asked before. I have the information so should be able to put together something on that
Thanks again, Steve. Fascinating & well-presented as always.
I like the idea of mentioning significant dates in history when you begin, so I hope you'll continue to do so.👍
Well done and Thankyou Steve for yet another interesting case.
Thank you, Steve Fielding, for yet another informative, thoroughly researched and clearly presented edition of this truly excellent series. More cases, please! And may I request once again that you cover the George Kelly case (1949-50), the Burns and Devlin case (1951-52) and the James Hanratty case (1961-62). Also: are you considering presenting on the Alfred Moore case (1951-52)?
@@charlescovell8054 thank you. All the cases you mention will appear later this year
Many thanks. I eagerly await your commentaries on these notable cases.
Great work as ever, Steve. Love the snippets of historical info at the start as context! I really look forward to each episode.
Great opening and good research set the scene at the beginning of the video.
Thanks once again, Steve. Currently reading one of your books I received at Christmas.
@@annehickinbottom6410 hope you are enjoying it :)
Great episode Steve, maybe a special on Bernard Spilsbury, an interesting character in his own right?
The chemist shop where Spillsbury was born is still there in leamington spa by me and is still a chemist.
Well done Steve
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What a tragic story,poor girl came to a horrible end,,its amazing how quick the police were to find the man,considering the year 1937,the technology they didn't have ,,they should be applauded ❤
Your reverence for this topic (capital punishment) is so apparent. Thank you for all the hard work.
Great storyteller.
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Thanks for a very interesting video Steve 👍
Great video Steve
It seems murder accused in those days should never look forward to Christmas 😮
Another excellent video. Really not looking forward to the day when you have covered all the cases that you are able to and are not able to produce anymore of these videos. Do you have any plans of what you are going to do after that and will we still be seeing more publications of 'Tales From The Hangman's Record'?
I have a second channel called Crime Casebook in which I will feature all types of cases not in the scope of the Hangman's Record. I had hoped to have this up and running now but with my teaching and also gigging with my band at weekends I haven't enough time at present to do both. I still have plenty of cases to go at yet with The Hangman's Record, enough for another year or two at least :)
I Got your books for Xmas- they are excellent 👍
@Andy437 glad you like them thanks
what a brilliant video well done Steve
Looking forward to this. Nice one steve.
I think being on a jury for a capital offence would be terrible, even without any doubt of the offenders guilty it is the jury who decided the fate of the man or woman.
I often wonder how the jurors on the Timothy Evans case felt when 3 years later they found out that an innocent man was hanged.
Actually doubt has since been cast on his 'innocence' and it seems quite likely he murdered his daughter
@alibenkahn5092 I honestly do think he did, Christie had a pretty bad record with killing people.
Of course we will never know know.
The only people are Evans and Christie
No doubt about this verdict - meticulous video of a less well known case.
Wonder what happened to Pat Smith?
Great Vid Steve. Stone wasn't the sharpest tool in the box and his defence counsel was inadequate.
I’m at home recovering from pneumonia…this is just what the doctor ordered!
@@vickiewallace415 sorry to hear, get well soon
Another great presentation and a very sad case.I note in one of the comments made as to what plans you have when the series comes to an end.I was just thinking would a series on executions in the US be a tall order?.Best wishes on what ever you decide.Cheers Jim
This was another interesting listen
That information about the rope placement was abit morbid for me but also the science that went into this was kinda interesting!
I could never do that job.
Thanks for sharing this episode 👍
Ruby Keen was the name of one of the murder victims in Agatha Christie's The Body In The Library, written five years later. It seems too unusual a name for that to have been a coincidence, and it has left me wondering whether Dame Agatha used any other real victims' names. Seems in rather poor taste to me.
See 11.03 mins into the video. I don't think double yellow lines would have been painted on the street as they only came into use in 1960 !
Excellent video, though.
.... Section 51 of the Road Traffic Act 1960 .... although they first appeared (alongside single yellow lines) and Parking Meters in London in 1958 .... m:)
@@frasermitchell9183 well spotted I'll have strong words with my quality controller
@@thehangmansrecord2860 .... perhaps issue a parking-ticket .... LOL:) .... m:)
Friday the 13th really was a bad day for Leslie
I dated one of James Hanratty's neices a couple of years ago, lovely lady, mad for breeding Tarantula Spiders though... Great one Steve, keep up the good work bro !!!
Let's get started watching 😆
Great story Steve. What a macabre way to treat an ex-girlfriend by strangling them and tearing their clothes off. He wasn’t very bright if he contacted the authorities to clear his name. That’s the nature of criminality in wanting to bask in the glory of offending without the consequences. He probably had sociopathic or narcissistic tendencies. As a crime of passion he would still have been hanged. There were no extenuating circumstances even if the evidence was at best coincidental in regards to the suit. His shoes were a give away but again plenty of ex-servicemen would have had similar boots. If he had kept quiet his appeal might have had more mileage, a jury would not have been unanimous and the death sentence would have been commuted to life in prison or even an acquittal because of a mistrial. Luck was not on his side especially with a judge who was suspicious of the defendants character. A better defence would have been to deny all knowledge of this girl who though engaged still went on a romantic walk down a well known lovers lane. I’m not victim blaming but she had played a part in her own downfall.
Could you please do a video on the two murderers in Pontefract the only two that were hanged for killing a old lady shop keeper
@@shaunelliott2967 I've done the story in a couple of my books but until I can find a pic of Caldwell and Barrett I have on plans to do that as a stand alone case
I love how fast the trials were back in the day. USA trials far too long and takes forever for cases to even reach court. Also in USA people receive the justice they can or cannot afford.
And people spend FAR too long on death row. 10, 15 or more years is ridiculous
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Ruby Keen RIP Undoubtedly died during a desperate struggle for her young life, but 1 detail in this tragic tale seemed out of place with the violence used. On 1st finding her body Frank Cox before going to alert Police removed his own coat & used it to cover the dead girl's shame, This is a tender act done by a man who deeply felt the loss of humanity!
Steve, where can your books be bought?
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Strictly speaking,the jet engine was tested a good bit earlier than 1937,Henri Coanda,the Romanian engineer, demonstrated his "propulsor"jet engine in 1910.
She went to a pub I was brought up in the fifties in a market town ladies never went to a pub alone
If he told the truth straight away could it have been seen as a crime of passion and he may have avoided the noose
Always a bad plan to change your story, never goes well
I wonder the extent to which this case inspired/influenced Agatha Christie when she came up with the name of one of the characters in "The Body in the Library"...
'Ruby Keene' was the murder victim in an Agatha Christie story however I cannot remember the title. I wonder if she got the name from this case.
@@wendesmith6240 The Body in the Library
@@thehangmansrecord2860 Of course. Thank you.
@@wendesmith6240 .... also AC lived in Sunningdale, Ascot at one point and wrote in 1929 - The Sunningdale Mystery - in that year was a real murder there - a Frenchwoman shot dead her French lover in a taxi-cab on the way to the railway-station and the London train .... she then shot herself dead .... m:)
As one who has practiced law in the States for three decades, I can’t help but cringe when I hear of judges summing up.
Here it’s grounds for a mistrial or worse if the judge comments on the facts of the case. It’s thought that due to the enormous power the judge has and the deference he commands within those courtroom walls, the jury might be unduly influenced by the opinions of a single individual.
Agreed.
This type of crime has to be one of the most despicable, and saddest. Another excellent presentation. Having not seen all 76 videos, (I'll get around to them), it's quite likely that you've covered the Christie/Evans event but as you've mentioned it here I thought for the benefit of those labouring under the impression that Evans was innocent and wrongly hanged.. it's a common misconception, I'd try to clarify.. Evans was pardoned for the murder that he was hanged for, that was the killing of Geraldine, the couple's baby. He was never tried for the murder of his wife. The police were certain that he had murdered his wife but English law does not allow for someone to be tried for two murders at the same time. They chose to prosecute for the murder of the child as it would not allow for a plea of self-defence. The final enquiry, The Brabin Enquiry, found that he was not guilty of the murder of Geraldine but 'accepted' that he was guilty of the murder of his wife. He was therefore pardoned for Geraldine's murder and his body exhumed and re-buried in consecrated ground... it obviously being too late to try him for the murder of his wife.
yes I agree. I have not covered this case yet as it has been well documented elsewhere but that's pretty much how I will be addressing the case James
@@jamesgraham6122Christie and Evans have not (yet) been covered in this series.
People were tried for more than one murder in one trial after the Homicide Act (1957) as murder "on a different occasion" was a specific form of capital murder and before the Act it was not absolute that u were only tried for one case although it was very common as in the Evans case .... m:)
@@tonyscheinman3538 Ahh.. Many thanks for that.. It may be too lengthy and convoluted to present in the time available.. Thanks again.
hi steve, had they been hoping that allen would take over from baxter who had retired in 35 as the london hangman to save money on expenses, ithink he had done 2 at oxford a3 at the ville but was not up to the job.
Baxter was pensioned off due to poor eyesight at the end of 1935. Allen had carried out an execution at Oxford in 1932 because I believe Tom P was temporarily off the list. He had been sent some new terms and conditions re the official secrets act which he had failed to return until later that autumn. Thus when Hutchinson was sentenced, and with Baxter presumably already engaged elsewhere or unavailable, Allen was promoted. This was despite Wilson and Phillips having much more seniority at the time. Allen had assisted at the previous Oxford execution and perhaps had made a good impression. I failed to mention in the video that it was the first time Tom P had officiated as a chief at Pentonville at Stone's execution.
thanks Steve
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21:05 that ‘packed gallery’ looks like something out of a nightmare! AI generated no doubt, but scary!!!
The good old days, when there was justice formurder victims and their relatives. High time they were back.
I shed no tears for Leslie Stone he got his just dserves. Christmas Humpries wasnt needed here, he could have gone to the pub instead.
If I'm not mistaken, the tone of the other posts would indicate a general agreement with mine.
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@@thehangmansrecord2860 No worries.