Rene Dupree REACTS to Paul Roma ALLEGATIONS Towards Vince Mcmahon & WWE
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- rene Dupree REACTS to Paul roma allegations towards vince mcmahon and wwe.
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Paul Roma looks like Chris masters
Good job so far in 2014 Boyz,
Interview ideas, Sharkboy, Pacman Jones, ICP, Funaki, amazing red, David Benoit, Monty brown, Jeff jerett, colt cobana, Sabu, rhino, raven, perry Saturn 🪐, Domino, Hornswoggle, Vince Russo
There's a Sid Vicious interview where he talks about Pat Patterson trying to get into his room at a hotel one night. He said he was so freaked out he pushed the furniture up against the door. Probably why both of Sid's WWF runs didn't last very long.
I seen that interview..I've also heard he use to chase shawn Michael's around to when he was younger.Bottom line he was a demon.
And in that same interview mentions telling some job guy, who looked freaked out after an encounter with either Garvin or Patterson to get the fuck out of the business and go home to his girlfriend because he’ll never make enough in the business to put up with that
Both runs included a Wrestle mania MAIN event so .
@@nickdoucette4301 and?
@@loboneiner1034Right. It never made sense that Syd didn’t get more of a run. Now it makes sense though 😞
And people always said Macho Man was way over paranoid with Elisabeth. Seems he knew more than they did.
This . Macho may not have been very flexible abut the miss Elisabeth thing but if i had to bring my wife to a my workplace wich is full of Pedophiles, Rapists and drug addicts who beat their own wives then i"ll be paranoid too . Elisabeth ended up with Luger who beat and got her into drugs and alchohol wich caused her death, so Macho's fears did come true.
Wow great take and you know Vince tried….
He kept Liz locked away in their own home whenever he would go out on the road. So yes, Randy WAS overly paranoid and also a POS.
*Elizabeth, with a Z not an s
Don't get it twisted, Randy was still controlling and abusive on his own time.
You know what I can’t get out of my head? When Scott Hall told the story about Vince telling he and Kevin Nash about his first Homosexual experience and Scott said something about Vince and Ultimate Warrior naked on a Bear skin rug. 🤢
my money is on it being 90s HBK. vince seems aroused every time he saw him
I won't be surprised if hbk gets exposed. HBK and Pat Patterson sexual relationship
It was said that Shawn was in a promotion before WWE where you had to perform favors to main event. Anything is possible.
Heck yeah just look at the 2011 hall of fame...when Vince gives Shawn his ring ....and watch Vinces lips really close..and he hugs Michael's real tight for almost a minute
@@raymondtipton7243Like someone who was in love.. Vince hugged Michaels tighter than he probably hugged Linda..
Especially when hbk was making his entrances in the 90s aswell
Really makes you wonder about old Nailz accusations when he tried to choke Vince to death after Vince made a pass at him. Everyone totally discredited Nailz
it’s why Vince liked threesomes so much. he needed another flagpole in the room to get it up
It was because of a payoff
I'm skeptical of Nailz but I suspect he had tip or feel if Vince Mcmahon did that stuff and took a shot
I bring that up all the time!!! Vince wanted the Big Nail!!!
Nailz had told his good friend John Nord in advance what he was going to do so in that case at least Vince was innocent. Plus Vince's type was more Shawn Michaels than Nailz anyway.
It’s just surprising it took this long for Vince to get caught.
Had Power and $$$ and if he would of payed that woman off none of this would have happened. But he didnt want to finish off the payments and lets say the rest is history.
No its not
supervillain
technology was not his friend
Understand that this goes on everywhere involving the "elite"
Just like child trafficking. Those in power will protect fellow degenerates until they are of no use to them or their crimes are blatantly out. There is a power structure. In order to succeed, you have to submit. It's sick but that's how things really work.
This is just getting weirder and darker by the day
Welcome to the entertainment industry.....
@@louiowelcome to the world not just entertainment but politicians do it as well
It's creating ominous threatening Vince Mcmahon internet bot jobs youre no fun
You should look into the Franklin (credit union) cover-up.
As the stomach turns…
See the Roddy piper interview about pat Paterson... it's sad how piper sounds
Not to mention, Ken Shamrock got tossed all because he refused to do an incest storyline with his story line sister! Vinny Mac had a wild imagination!
Hawk told a story on a shoot where he claimed Vince & Shawn Michaels had a sexual relationship going on - & he wasn’t joking about it.
Then why does Michaels still have to work since he should be loaded from career and merch ..then now this way
@@sampleoffers1978 Because he wants to help the younger guys and gals make a name for themselves? Both Shawn and Bret have always loved wrestling but only one politicked themselves far enough to still enjoy it enough to train.
@@eastwaters4082 Doesn't need wwe to do that role. I hear a wwe cling to these people, not to the industry.
@@sampleoffers1978same reason this young lady didn't get all her money! Vince is a user and a liar! 😮
Wonder how much triple h knows, or if he was part of it or forced. Surprised that wwe hasn't ended with so much happening
Honestly, the whole business is pretty much being exposed right before our very eyes. I wouldn’t be surprised the reason WWE doesn’t offer Social Security healthcare etc. is to make sure you always come back for that one off appearance because they know you still need $$$ so if anyone speaks about all of this f’d up backstage shit, they will never get another call/payday again. It’s crazy how many stories are out there and none of these women are saying a word. They are so scared and mortified. This is a sick world.
No wrestling promotion has ever offered health coverage. All the talent are legally independent contractors.
@@quentinkaasa47 yeah and they should be considered exactly what they are employees …
You must be new to the behind the scenes shit. None of this is new information / accusations except for the feces
@@DTA707 no but people actually care now and stuff doesn’t it covered up like when you were young
Yep
His tag partner was S.D. Jones (Special Delivery Jones). He passed from bleeding in his brain, and tagged with Paul for a brief time in 86
INTERESTING. The Benjamins sounded like weird term for 1980's but some of the slang goes back
He also tagged with Jim Powers in the 80’s in the Young Stallions then with Hercules in Power and Glory.
@@Zebojr2koolthey already established that wasn’t either of them.
@@sampleoffers1978that term obviously goes back a lot longer than the 80s. What the fuck dude 😂
@@DTA707Not mainstream slang in those years for midwestern rass'ler or many of Roma's peers is point. They might use slang, but that doesn't sound like it. . You know it.
There is a video of Marty janetty talking about why Jim Powers did not get a promotion because he turned down something Patterson wanted to perform.
jim should've just pleasured pat and got that push
@@nicotoscani1707 Jim did the right thing. The guy with the anti social disorder might not be around but his real legacy is being exposed. 3% of the population and the majority of the gruumers
Pat pleasures you
Title match network just uploaded a couple of clips from a Paul Roma and a Jim Powers interview where they talk about getting propositioned by Pat Patterson
@@user-se9im4vs8l I'm super straight sir
40 years worth of scandals just starting to come out. Makes you sad these people didn’t deserve it. It’s definitely turned me off of the whole WWE programming. Who cares if the story ever gets finished. I wouldn’t want to be the top guy of WWE these days.
No one said anything because it’s fake asf accusations
It took you this long to realize wwe is a ses pool of perverts lol
Well... Dark Side of the Ring won't run out of content ideas now
@@MrAbzpdmany of these accusations have gone on for years and just been ignored. Vince not owning the company anymore has allowed them to finally go mainstream.
@@loboneiner1034 It isn't that Vince is gone. The Janelle Grant story was so sensational in its details that people are for the moment actually starting to pay attention to the other stories. For the moment.
Pat Patterson escaped justice,the bastard
He's burning in hell
Paul Roma used to tag with SD Jones early on, SD died from a stroke, RIP
Why would you mention that here??
@@kingrobthegreat7446 are you daft? It’s what the conversation was about…
@@kingrobthegreat7446 pay attention to the video
I believe it was actually Quick Draw Rick McGraw. They briefly tagged and had a couple of jobber wins together before McGraw's untimely death. Back then, to cover up his rampant use of roids and placidyl, they said he had an aneurysm. In the later years it was revealed to have been a heart attack caused by complications from the placidly & steroids.
Patterson and Terry Garvin. Both well known, yet wrestlers will always go to bat for Pat Patterson and bury Garvin.
Maybe because Patterson wasn't trying to push himself on anyone and Garvin was.
Let's pretend like this wasn't all talked about 30 years ago on Donahue and laughed away by TV executives and smart marks alike.
Exactly
I just read a post from 2016 where he said the same things back then Paul is for sure telling the truth
For sure? I once had same sex relations with Shaq... You believe me right?
The Patterson thing is very interesting given his relationship and input with so many wrestlers who credit him for their character development but has made many advances toward male talent. Wrestling is a crazy business. It's funny to see mainstream media cover it and sound so disgusted especially when they cover politics.
The business is dirty always has been. Its sickening.
Dirty is not even the word …. It’s like criminally mortifying
Seems like wwe was a huge inside trafficking situation
@scottytechNmore1 I'm surprised it's still going on. How much did triple h know?
It's because carnies have always been weird as fuck. It's not just Vince either, wrestling promotors have generally been scumbags, look at Jake Roberts' dad, and Fritz
Rene, are you aware in Hardcore Holly's book he flat out stated you had an affair with Patterson? In his book he said and I am paraphrasing, "Pat was tired of Rene's flavor before he moved on to another wrestler."
Why do I get this feeling that Pat Patterson is going to become talked about a lot very soon?
Yea but this has been public knowledge for years. I knew about powers bein propositioned and pressured to perform acts years ago. It's just now that people seem to "care"
People usually brushed off the allegations as "bitter ex employees" vince was the biggest game in town, so no one really wanted nor could, actually bring him down. There was a male stsffer that came out with allegations during the steroid trial as well.
A bunch of these people are complete lying sacks of crap too though.
I wouldn't believe a word Paul Roma says.
It's the new "trend" fr these fans until the next thing catches their attention
The rumors were out in the '80s when I was a kid. My friend's father was on about from someone he knew in the business.
Ironically, this story will put over Rene as a podcaster the more it all drags on.
Again, when I went to Wrestling school back in 1991 or 1992, this was no secret. I met Renee Goulet when I was going to Wrestling school after a WWE show at Hersheypark Arena and he creeped me out. The fact is, my Wrestling school trainer talked about this all of the time. About Pat Patterson and a lot of people up there who were using their power to do whatever they wanted to do. Obviously, it was under Vince McMahon… Because he let them get away with it, knowing what they were doing.
After reading the texts, I’m sure he was participating in a lot of of it. When you have so much money that you don’t know what to do with and you’ve done everything you want to do and become bored with it… You start looking for things to do that you shouldn’t. Power becomes the only trip you have left in order to make people do what you want them to do, because they want some of what you have.
It’s ridiculous how this is surprising any professional wrestler of the 80s, 90s and 2000s… I’ll never know. Maybe they just didn’t have enough interaction with Vince in the office in order to Experience it. But, this was absolutely no secret.
In think that this Vince situation opened the door for all these dark secrets an rumors surrounding wwe everyone it's breaking his silence and started to talk.
My God; why isn’t this surprising? I feel like a creep for even watching all those years.
Why? You weren't complicit in anything these creeps did.
Makes me glad that when, I grew up, I stopped watching.....
It's not our fault, don't worry.
All media is creepy. Collectively audience can at least reform mob circus zoo c'mon guys ladies
@MrZombiejoe it does make a lot of classic moments impossible to enjoy anymore though.
I wonder how Vince feels. There's a couple different interviews where he gets a bit choked up talking about his father's legacy. How must it feel knowing that he took his entire lineage and turned the name McMahon into a punchline about shitting on a girl's head.
This is what happens when your a 1099 worker. And you don't have ANY company backing. Yet your working your ass off for that company. You can VERY EASILY be taken advantage of. And now is a time i think that wrestler should form unions PERIOD...!!! I've always been behind that.
No way anyone propositioned Hercules. Dude wouldn't beat the shit out of whoever tried.
No way anyone molested Terry Crews. Dude would beat the shit out of whoever tried. 🙃
Always heard that Hercules Hernandez was not a guy you crossed or messed with.
Billy Jack Haynes made some wild accusations against Vince and Pat.
I automatically thought that he meant Z Man Tom Zenk. He disappeared with a quickness and ticks the other boxes. I do know hes passed now, not sure what he died from, but it was definitely way too young.
I don't get why people always think Roma buried Powers in other interviews as it pertains to his willingness to participate in this activity. Roma may blame Powers speaking up for setting back their careers, but he's always said that Powers was propositioned and said no.
This podcast is an invaluable resource.
He'll Vince and Shawn and Patterson used to blow each all the time how the he'll do u think Michael's got over any other way jeez
There is a clip of Vince and Shawn doing a book signing or an event together...they both tried hard to act straight. It was like to gay dudes trying to act straight.
He's talking about S.D. Jones as his partner who passed away after hitting his head.
Paul Roma will be a senior citizen on his next birthday. Time flies by.
Think Shane and Stephanie are gonna stand by their dad?or will they see the writing on the wall and flip?
I think Shane flipped a long time ago when he fell out with Vince. Now, it's time for Stephanie to do the right thing.
Basically Paul was like "why did u snitch? you should of done it. Our careers are over." What a piece of shit.
It's all about the game and how you play it
@@louioyikes 😬
Sounds that way but they employed Roma for years so likely not just Roma issue.
I took it as just say no and keep your mouth shut so we don't get axed
@@louioAll about control and if you can take it
Hercules Hernandez died in his sleep in 2004. Wikipedia says it was due to heart disease.
This Shit's gonna be talked about for AGES!!!!! Just like the Steroid Trials, but MUCH WORSE!!!!!
I m glad to see ur podcast taking off.
The guy who said it wasn’t worth the benjamins can’t have been Herc because Roma was gone before Herc. I reckon it was another enhancement talent from earlier on
Roma deserves revenge for being jobbed and then getting buried in the Horsemen DVD.
any chance of getting Paul Roma on the show?
He charges a lot
@@theragoooverlord5021 oh ok. might not be worth it because you'll probably hear the same thing he talked about already.
Wasn't Grenier propositioned (groomed)?
Also, Moolah's activities sound eerily similar... She was WWWF Champ for how long?
Roma may have been talking about Jerry Allen from New Haven.. I remember reading online that he slipped on ice and hit his head and passed away. I got his autograph in Halifax in 1988 and he was a great guy.
His cause of death even tho he hit his head is a heart attack so who knows I've heard him and from what I've researched sd Jones semi fits the description he had Brain bleeding which caused a stroke
Barry Orton, brother of Bob Jr, was propositioned by Terry Garvin when he was a booker in wwf/e in the 80's
Well said
Patterson and Vince are cut from the same cloth???
I told you the undertaker knew all about it. He gave vince the wrong kind of loyalty.
Undertaker a fuckn clown for him to go back to Vince and he got fired, undertaker a part of it too
mark calaway should be imprisoned for being a selfish coward
@@evilswissy half the business would be arrested then
Undertaker is gae too
There’s tons of wrestlers in shoot interviews who have said stories of Pat Patterson propositioning em
Ppl just either laughed it off or didn’t pay attention
No one is gonna say his name especially bc he’s dead now but we all know this story is about Pat
paul roma was also one half of pretty wonderful with paul orndorf and that entrance music was sick
Rene, I can tell that it's tough for you to hear Pat's name thrown out there during all these allegations. I understand your relationship was good-natured on your end. I'm sorry you had to be put on the spot towards the end of the video.
Alex Roma and Paul Roma were called the pretty primos. Had a dark match in wwf shotgun Saturday night 1998.
I can’t find that match anywhere
10:05 😂
I remember getting a copy of that Paul Roma shoot from Ebay for a fiver about 10 years ago. Funny as hell/
It was Special Delivery Jones , his tag partner
Guys, it was Special Delivery Jones! He had a stroke and brain bleed, according to his wife, and briefly tagged with Roma.
SD was around since the 70s. It wasn't him.
@@yardape99it could be ...SD might have been able to be around without being propositioned and he did leave or disappear around the time. It could be SD Jones especially if he died of bleeding on the brain.
I think early on in his career Paul Roma teamed sporadically with Jerry Allen as enhancement talent. Allen died at age 33 I think of a heart attack but there were mixed reports initially that he was killed after slipping on ice and hitting his head on a car causing internal bleeding. Might be a long shot.
It's Jerry Allen. I was involved with WWF associates in the early 90s and heard many stories.
Did he die of brain bleed or other internal bleeding
No, but most of the boys thought he hit his head.
HBK and Patterson
It wasn’t Hercules Hernandez. I had to rewind that on the DVR, bc Hercules reportedly died of a heart issue.
Paul was referring to another wrestler that he shared a cab with when they got to the town.
Former partner who turned down the advance was Jim Powers.
Plus, Roma left WWE before herc.
It was Jerry Allen
Sd Jones who he tagged with in 86 and died of a brain bleed
When Jerry first died the boys all thought he fell and hit his head. Most did not learn about his HA until years later. Jim Kettner told me it was Jerry Allen
Keep up the good work.
When the original allegations against Vince came out I did say that I felt a 'me too' style situation was coming. I didn't imagine it would include these kinds of allegations though. This is taking twists and turns that even M. Night Shyamalan wouldn't see coming. Jokes aside, this is such an awful, horrific situation that is unfolding. We don't know what is true and what isn't but with so many allegations from so many different sources, I would imagine there is truth to a good amount of this.
Not really a me too thing because this isn’t the first allegation against him. This has been hanging over Vince’s head since the 80’s
@@SKOTxFREE I have been following wrestling and the WWF/WWE since the 80's but somehow I had never heard of these allegations. I am hearing all of this for the first time and it's shocking. I knew about the steroid trials etc but not this. Every day it seems more stories are surfacing and more people with their own experiences are speaking out. It's truly horrific
Roma wrestled with Salvatore Marino when he 1st got there. But, Marino died of cancer. He also tagged with SD Jones, who had a stroke.
This new WWE scandal scandal should be called gay for pay
Its not new. He’s said it in many interviews. Also the Pat Patterson thing isnt new news
Roma did partner with SD Jones who died in 2008 with a brain hemorrhage I believe.
Thank you!
Power and Glory only lasted until 1991, Hercules died in 2004.
It was probably someone after Powers and before Hercules.
My guess is the Mario Mancini worse than Grant incident was probably ring boys. With kids would would be worse than w an adult
Sounds like Rick Mcgraw he's the only one that died early while still in the company
Theres a discord for this channel?
Does anyone remember Tom Zenk? He used to destroy VM and the WWF/E for years. He was extremely funny, but brutal. He passed away as well.
Are you kidding me!? Worse then what Janel Grant had to go through!?
Enough with Janel Grant. She was a willing participant. She NEVER said anything till she didn't get her money. Vince is not a good person but let's not act like she was a victim. She was a contracted prostitute.
Edit: you can read her texts where she's obviously going along with meeting up with Johnny Ace and where she's afraid he didn't delete things from a phone he had.
@@captainxhulio2929 if the story is true, her parents both died around the same time which is freaking crazy. Most of us cannot put ourselves in the shoes of a 21-year-old with no parents on earth. I probably would feel like I had no idea where to turn either, so she accepted this shit instead of doing heroin.
@@scottytechNmore1 I believe she was near 40 when she met Vince.
@@gazb2740 Janel Grant?!?
@@scottytechNmore1 Yeah, she's like 40ish not 21.
Vince destroyed Chris Benoit's reputation and banned his very existence from the WWE! Buried rival wrestlers and promotions for sport! Fired talent for personal reasons. Now ironically it's his turn to be banned from WWE, legacy buried, and ultimately fired! You do reap what you sow. 😮
Chris Benoit destroyed his own reputations by killing his wife and kid.
And more than you sew, I might add…
I'm STILL not convinced that Chris killed his family and himself!
When Paul first joined WWF he teamed with SD Jones who died of a stroke - his wife is quoted as saying "he had three-quarters of his brain bleeding, covered with blood".
Tom Zenk? He tagged with Paul Roma. But atherosclerosis and cardiomegaly in 2017.
Rene, you don't have to eat the damn condenser microphone. Just turn the gain/master volume on your interface up if it's too quiet. It's designed _not_ to be a hand held mic.
A lot of comments from people who think Rene's story at 2:05 implicates The Undertaker.
He's saying the victim of the harassment went to Undertaker, and the alleged harasser (Dave Lagana) got immediately fired. "Sayonara Dave."
I mean wrestling did not get Cena over
I wonder if Cena had to do something 'extra'?
He has probably talked about The Ring boys scandal that worse could be worse than current lawsuit
When’s the next live stream?
The WWE celebrated PP as being first gey intercontinental champion and a great milestone for professional wrestling, we'll see how great it is after the class action. 💸💸💸💸
News nation is just trying to hear anybody that will talk right now
Seems sd jones may be the person they had a short lived team in 1986. S.d jones also had bleeding of the brain and passed away from that and a stroke just nothing on if he hit his head but thats what ive come up with
Seems like just typical behaviour from the entertainment industry.
anybody that's older will remember the talkshow host Phil Donahue did a show on it back in the 80s so this has been going on for a long time.
it was Pat Paterson.. he would always say that they can just lay there and not do anything… so he can blow them… this is like the 5th guy i have heard this from 👀
Paul Roma did enhancement matches were he tagged with other wrestlers. So it could have been an enhancement wrestler
alot of WWE catchers trying to catch Cody's story this year
Only wrestlers i know that passed as a result of a blood clot are Chris Candido Steve Doll and Terry Gordy were any of them in the WWF while Roma was there
I don't know who Roma is talking about because Hercules passed from heart disease but well after his WWE time. He did a brief run with S.D. Jones but he passed in 08 and Jim Powers I believe is still alive. So maybe it was his very early time in WWE but I have no clue who Roma is talking about it.
Roma most likely misremembered the cause of death, I think. Tom Zenk is another possible name.
First wrestler that Roma mentioned could be Rick McGraw
taker seems like a creepo snitch to me
Frightful already has Paul Roma's story on their page but it's pretty obvious like James said it was Hercules
Scott Hall did make mention of Ultimate Warrior and Vince "rolling around" naked. 😂
There's a theme if you say no you're bound to have a accident
What happened with Thorn and Lagana?
If Pat Patterson was alive today, he would be working for aew and loving it.. Let's face it, over half of the men there would not fight off his advances.
there is no doudt vince had a gay relationship with shaun micheals,shaun went to the top quick being a tiny tag team rocker then took roids and was the champ and got away with anything,and the name shaun micheals "BOY TOY",enough said,im sure he was vinces gay lover
Roma teamed with SD Jones for a while and he died of a brain bleed.
It was Jerry Allen
@@kingslowbrafas292jerry allen died pf a heart attack not what roma said
@@PalmaColantuono-rz1pt again heart issues not what Paul Roma is hinting at
The boys thought Jerry slipped and hit his head. They didn't know it was a HA.
SD Jones was a freak and was into weird sex, ask Tony Atlas. It wasn't SD