I just bought my first rifle, a CZ 457 Lux in .22LR and I’ve never cleaned a bolt-action rifle before, let alone a bolt-action rimfire. This video is going to be very helpful!
On my CZ 455 I use a 20 cal brush and jag. Bore tech bore guide and Tipton cleaning rod. The rod has 5-40 threads and is smaller diameter. ( Normally used for 17hmr.) CZ recommends using a smaller rod. Tried to find a 22cal brush with 5-40 threads but no luck. CZ claims their barrel is smaller in diameter then most 22lLR rifles. The 20 caliper works fine. I use ballistol for cleaning. Run a soaked patch through. Let sit for five minutes. Run a nylon brush through three times. Another channel tested ballistol and as long as you let it sit for five minutes it does a great job of removing lead, copper and carbon. In his testing it was the only aerosol spray that worked.
Sniper cleaning tips: 1. Always wear disposable gloves. Never let cleaning solvents, oils, etc. touch your skin and enter your blood stream. 2. Disposable blue shop towels work better than regular paper towels. 3. Fill a small baby food jar half way with cleaning solvent - try to use a cleaning solvent with no smell or low smell - and then, add patches. Results - ready to use soaked cleaning solvent patches. Keep one in your gun room. Dark tape another one for field use to camouflage and to help resist breaking the jar. 4. After cleaning your rifle in the field, remove your gloves inside out, insert all used cleaning patches, one disposable glove and disposable shop towels, tie off ends of your disposable glove, insert into a clear plastic freezer bag and carry out of the field with you. 5. Best swabs are from SWAB ITS. Their introductory kit of 23 different swabs is only $10.00 plus free shipping. Sturdy plastic handles that won't break, washable, reusable, leaves no lint behind and is made in America.
Great video, Thanks. Dad always taught us, you shoot it ,you clean it. We use bore snakes every time and every other a complete cleaning like you showed us. I do wish, my cleaning bench was organized as yours .
I have found that a nylon brush just doesn't clean nearly as well as a Dewey 22 caliber rimfire brush. Absolutely shocked how black my patches were after using nylon brush. Great video!
I had several CZ 457s and I traded all but 2 for a Anschutz 1710 in case I decided to get into some matches. I haven`t done any competition shooting for 20 years and then it was only bench rest so other types of competition will be all new and probably hard for an old man however I love shooting 22`s. Not sure where the matches are held but I will check around for them.
I do pretty much the same. But, after cleaning I put hopes oil on a patch. Run it then a couple of dry patches. Living in the Olympic mountains it's very humid. Often raining. Just to be sure there is a layer of protection from the moisture. Seems to work
Yep your weren’t wrong with the length of your rod mate. Great stroking action as well. I mean it yours you can can clean it as hard and fast and as often as you like 👍jokes aside informative and great vid look forward to seeing the accuracy come back for you
The only drawback on my Marlin model 60 is that I can't clean it from the breach end.....So you have to be very mindfull of the crown.......On all my guns the first thing I use as a pre-cleaner on cotton swabs is WD-40 and then I go to my other cleaners after that......I also only use carbon fiber rods with plastic tips.
After dry patching I saturate a bore mop with EASY OFF oven cleaner (basically a carbon remover for ovens) and 2-3 minutes later, I send a bore brush down it chucked in a cordless drill (*after seeing a popular firearm YT'er do it AND confirming its efficacy with bore scoping*). The result is amazing. *ZERO* scratching of the bore. Actually appears polished. I don't worry about copper fouling. For one, .22 rimfire ammo is plated and even then copper only deposits until the irregularity/void fills or smooths out. *THAT'S WHY 10-20 fouling shots are fired after cleaning before shooting for score*. Gotta refoul the barrel.
Ive seen and used drills before but it only takes a second of something going wrong to turn out bad. I just use the rod and with very little effort its clean
I use CRC BRAKLEEN TO SHIFT the carbon out of my barrels & bolts .I squirt in & out of the bolt till it runs clean then bloke the end of the barrel the fill it with Brakleen let it soak for 10 to 15 minutes drain & use nylon brush then clean rags then WD40 spray bolt & barrel then air hoes it away & wipe with clean rags ./
I have found them mostly in non chain store gun shops. The larger chain stores don't keep them in stock but the smaller gun shops hold on to them longer it seems.
There has been one in my local gun shop for the last few months, I bought the twin to it, I will see if it is still for sale, it has the heavy Turkish walnut stock
Thanks you for the video. I just ordered the RF specific rod and jag. I’ve been using a .17 cal rod for my rimfires so we’ll see if this is a better fit, literally.
I give mine a quick blast of GunScrubber down the bore and then a couple of passes with a boresnake with oil on the end after every outing. Same with the bolts: Guns rubber the oil on a toothbrush. The .22's get thousands of rounds through them a year (kids love em) and no problems so far.
Great video! I cleaned my new CZ 457 Varmint for the first time and noticed some brass fragments on my pads. I"ve only put about a 100 rounds of SK through it. Is this normal? also noticed a scratch on my spent shell casings
I prefer Dewey rods and aluminum jags, but do use the Bore Tech guides on my CZ and Savage. I use Possum Hollow's guide on my Anschutz Mark 12. Nice video, thanks!
Thanks for the tips I’m going to pick up that cleaning rod looking forward to a video on disassembly of the Bolt also how do you Decock the Bolt on a CZ?
Thanks Josh Awesome video Mate I’m cleaning my 455 tomorrow I’ll follow your lead it looks like an easy process , as I told you before mine will only shoot SK High velocity ammo , it would make sense that if it has a carbon ring in the chamber lead the high velocity stuff may have the extra power to overcome the ring by forcing through it , I’ll give it a real good clean then try some SK match std velocity ammo that it refuses to shoot with any accuracy l mean 3/4 inch with flyers out to 1.1/2 at 50 yards when I get .3 - .4s with the high velocity stuff , do you have any pointers with fouling the barrel after cleaning like how many rounds would you put through it before expecting the best accuracy it will deliver , thanks for your time and knowledge Mate , by the way I just fitted a timney trigger assembly can’t wait to try it out , Aussie Steve .
Great video ! I’m going to conclude that you do not like bore snakes and or bronze brushes. All the bore snakes I’ve seen have bronze brushes. Nylon is the only material that would allow the back and forth motion in the chamber area.
Thank You Sir! I noticed the Bore Tech nylon brushes have a higher density of bristle and an aluminum (apparently) center helix. Do you clean the brush with alcohol and dry with compressed air? 👍🇺🇸 #22aday
Great video! That is how I will clean mine from now on! Thank you. Being old school, I rarely cleaned any of my rimfires until accuracy problems or reliability trouble showed up. Always ran patches wet with WD-40 and sprayed the brush to scrub. Cleaned the wax/powder fouling out well. :)
Related question: when doing ammo test which is better or what you recommend between types? shoot 10 cleaning/fouling shots or run a nylon brush once/twice (with/without solvent) or maybe brush then re-fouling 10 shots(or more?)..I guess if I used a chrono the re-fouling would be efficient time/ammo use.
You mentioned you us a "Rim Fire specific rod " What is the difference between a rod for a .223 and a 22 rimfire rod ? I purchased a .223 rod to get a longer length, Teflon coated rod that works great.
Hi Josh, great video presentation as always, I value your opinion so i'd like to know how you go about cleaning your B14-R. What kind of bore guide do you use for that rifle? I'm having trouble finding a bore guide that actually fits the bolt channel without getting fouled by the ejector at the bottom of the channel. I have tried several bore guides but none of them clear the ejector so are useless. Now i am limited to using a snake to clean my bore as I don't like running a rod without a guide for obvious reasons, any help will be appreciated. ATB.
I use my vudoo boreguide on the b14r without any issue. Its the boretec guide. I think the ejector is still kind of in the way but i also use the .22rf rod from boretec and im able to clean without any real issues.
Do you have any complaints about the boretech cleaning rod? I normally use a Tipton but their 22 cal rod doesn’t fit in the bore of a CZ so I had to move to the 20 cal rod which requires that I use the 20 cal jag. I am not sure I’m getting the best cleaning with my setup. So I’ve been looking at new rimfire specific rods and jags.
I'm looking fwd to watching this later but it reminded me of a how to I haven't found yet. I'm new to your channel, so you have one of these for cleaning an all aluminum suppressors?
The most important tool used to clean any firearm is a bore scope. Unless you actually look in the bore and see if it’s clean you are just guessing. Also carbon rings in a .22 are very common for that you need either JB or Iosso bore paste and some elbow grease their is no getting around it.
Thanks for your excellent video. I have a few questions. What size of jag are you using? I use the same size patches as you do, but it is very hard to push the jag/patch trough the bore (I mean VERY hard...) And my second question is when do you clean your .22? (Afetr how many rounds) I know the answer is usually « after it starts to shoot larger groups... » but as an average, how many rounds would it be?
Hey I use the boretec jag specifically for .22lr My next video out i actually talk about tracking your shots. I recommend shooting from a clean barrel on paper to collect data on all that information so its no longer a guess
@@PursuitofAccuracy is that a Area 419 rail on your stock? Is it possible for a couple of pics of the clamp? I'd like to install that on my bench. Thanks.
Love your vids. Two questions: How often do you take your barrel back to bare steel? Do you ever use a borescope after your regular cleaning process to see how clean the barrel is (or is not)? Seems like the general consensus is for 22LR to keep the barrel at some level of consistently dirty (never take back to bare steel), where as for shooters like F-Class or Benchrest, the barrels are always taken back to bare steel. I like Eric Cortina's explanation, he can keep a barrel consistently clean, but not consistently dirty. I fully realize 22lr is a different animal. My 457 Chassis seems to take about 50 rounds to settle back down after cleaning back to bare steel. Trying to find the happy medium.
I fully clean after 300 or so rounds on the competition guns. I use a borescope to verify carbon ring is gone and there are no issues each time I clean
Josh is it necessary to use a bore guide if using a Dewey rod that has a coating on it? What size square patch are you using? Do square do better than round? Thanks Dennis.
Dennis i would always use a bpre guide. If will help align your rod and save the coating from being rubbed off. I use 1" square for loose applying chemicals etc and 1 1/8 for tight clean up patches
Do you use the bore snake in between your major cleaning. Or maybe you wouldn’t recommend the bore snake. I have saw a lot about the bore snake being good for cleaning. Thanks for the video and information
Did the cleaning bring your accuracy back to normal? I have pretty much the same setup as you minus the trigger. Mine typically shoots in the high .3s - .4s with eley match 1060- 1065fps. I still felt like it could do better so i invested in a Harrell tuner and it took my high .3s down to low to mid .2s set at 281 and is very consistent. Thanks for sharing your cleaning regiment.
Why not inspect your cleaning efforts with a bore-scope long before you've run 20 patches through it? The minute amount of stain on the patch looks like it's getting there from the chamber face as the patch folds into the chamber.
Good luck finding one, I've had one on order for close to 6 months. Its been so long I have all the upgrades purchased and sitting in a box, I have everything but a serial number.
I think most start at anywhere between 100 and 200 rounds. I akways have a carbon ring at 300 or so rounds. But i think its something that starts early and builds
Curious why you apparently don't wet patch. Is there a particular reason? Just discovered your channel about a week ago and have been working thru the videos. Enjoyed the live feed the other day.
Hi Lunkydog. I wet patch at first to mop out the barrel with 2 wet patches. Then scrub very wet. The first few dry patches are really wet patches with that much cleaner already in the barrel. Just my method. Probably a thousand ways to do it with same results
About how many rounds do you go through before cleaning? I've been doing it every time I go shooting with my 457, but whenever I go shooting I spend the entire day at the range, and go through maybe 600-1000 rounds?
Are you using a .20 or .22 cal cleaning rod? I heard that some folks undersize the rod to prevent stuck patches. Just wanted to know what size you use and your experience behind using it regarding bore tightness/fit. If you mentioned it in the video, I may have missed it.
Why dont you modify your cheek riser so you dont have to disturb the bedding to clean? Use the holes on the cheek riser for a guide and drill two quarter inch holes in the stock. Enlarge them slightly with a round file. Enlarge the holes in the cheek riser and epoxy two quarter inch stainless pins in the cheek riser. The cheek riser can then be lifted off to insert the bore guide without loosening the action screws and potentially changing the bedding. If you enlarge the holes too much for the pins you can put velcro on the comb of the stock and the bottom of the cheek riser.
What size brush and jag are you using, .22? O need to switch up my cleaning tools. My .22cal Tipton rod feels horrible running over the ejector of the 457. Cz recommends using .17 or .20 rod, jag and brushes. Could you please list what size guide, rod, jag and brushes your using
Yeah. If i shot bench rest i may entertain that idea but i need to run 150 or so through the rifle at a match and trying to clean between stages etc would be a nightmare. With the time they give for bench rest cards i would probably clean just to pass the time 😆
Excellent demonstration. Would you recommend a brass brush for this process? And also would you recommend running just a patch with cleaner after each shooting, just to remove the loose carbon from the barrel?
Hi Josh - great video! When you tighten your action back down to the stock after cleaning, what torque settings are you using for the manner’s stock? What about your MTR stock - what torque values do you use for those action screws? I very much enjoy your videos - thanks.
@Pursuit of Accuracy I'm going to set my Tikka t1x 22lr trigger down to about 2 lbs and I was wondering what torque to set my action back to? So, some where between 30 - 35 inch pounds sounds about right to me
Thanks, I called them and the tech guy said Measure the full length of the rifle and get the next size longer. My rifle is 38 inches long he recommended a 40 inch. I also told him where I learned about there products, he said that he had gotten quite a few calls referencing your video. Thanks for videos, I’ve learned a lot…..
Very good video (as are all of yours). You responded to one comment that "For match rifles i dont let a boresnake near em". Could you please elaborate on this? Why is a boresnake a bad idea? I'm clueless and would really be interested in your opinion.
@@PursuitofAccuracy agreed on bronze brush. I shoot a lot of rimfire benchrest. I Take the bronze out of my bore snakes. I’ve noticed after boretech I can use Eezox and get more dirty patches also. A lot of CNC cut chambers help alleviate carbon build up as there’s no tool mark often associated with chambers that are reamed. I’m having a CZ barrel done like this. Tell Langley his “Widia Rep” says what’s up…I need to come plink around with you guys. It Might teach me a thing or 2 lol. Enjoy watching the videos.
Great cleaning regime. Personally I use a bore snake after every outing, same practice with my shotguns. I use a propriety barrel cleaner on the actual snake. A few pull throughs, then dry patches. Toothbrush with some solvent around other internals, then dry off with lint. Bolt the same as you, with a smear of gun oil. I had cleanliness drilled into me by my dad and the army, fact is I cannot use a gun without cleaning it afterwards. I think people are inherently lazy, that coupled with 22lr is the muckyest round there is leads to problems that are avoidable. If you wound an animal because accuracy is down to your laziness? In my book totally goes against shooting ethics.
The old Lee Enfields had a cord pull-through [kept in the butt] which was drawn out the muzzle,so many of them had bad muzzle wear as they aged so it's a rod from the chamber for me no cords or other similar methods.
@@MrOlgrumpy I used those for years. Compared to modern bore snake materials they were just crude and lacked any real effect imo. Also there have been leaps and bounds in barrel construction since SMLE's were made. It is 2021 not 1940.
Thanks Sam. After getting my own borescope, I was really kind of surprised how the barrel stayed actually very clean while the chamber quickly starts collecting lead and carbon. I suspect this is different on just about every barrel and chamber style. The lilja seems to get dirty very quickly.
I just bought my first rifle, a CZ 457 Lux in .22LR and I’ve never cleaned a bolt-action rifle before, let alone a bolt-action rimfire. This video is going to be very helpful!
Awesome!
On my CZ 455 I use a 20 cal brush and jag. Bore tech bore guide and Tipton cleaning rod. The rod has 5-40 threads and is smaller diameter. ( Normally used for 17hmr.) CZ recommends using a smaller rod. Tried to find a 22cal brush with 5-40 threads but no luck. CZ claims their barrel is smaller in diameter then most 22lLR rifles. The 20 caliper works fine. I use ballistol for cleaning. Run a soaked patch through. Let sit for five minutes. Run a nylon brush through three times. Another channel tested ballistol and as long as you let it sit for five minutes it does a great job of removing lead, copper and carbon. In his testing it was the only aerosol spray that worked.
???? Have 3 455s. First time hearing that story. Guess whatever makes your boat float.
I got an adapter for the 5-40 threads to accept standard .22 brushes/ jags so I can use the .20 rod
Sniper cleaning tips:
1. Always wear disposable gloves. Never let cleaning solvents, oils, etc. touch your skin and enter your blood stream.
2. Disposable blue shop towels work better than regular paper towels.
3. Fill a small baby food jar half way with cleaning solvent - try to use a cleaning solvent with no smell or low smell - and then, add patches. Results - ready to use soaked cleaning solvent patches. Keep one in your gun room. Dark tape another one for field use to camouflage and to help resist breaking the jar.
4. After cleaning your rifle in the field, remove your gloves inside out, insert all used cleaning patches, one disposable glove and disposable shop towels, tie off ends of your disposable glove, insert into a clear plastic freezer bag and carry out of the field with you.
5. Best swabs are from SWAB ITS. Their introductory kit of 23 different swabs is only $10.00 plus free shipping. Sturdy plastic handles that won't break, washable, reusable, leaves no lint behind and is made in America.
Boretech is an acid cleaner, it might eat your flesh, but it won't enter your bloodstream.
Great video, Thanks. Dad always taught us, you shoot it ,you clean it. We use bore snakes every time and every other a complete cleaning like you showed us. I do wish, my cleaning bench was organized as yours .
Haha its usually a disaster area
After removing excess grunge and getting mostly clean, I use Flitz polish. Ultra fine cleaner that doesn’t remove metal and leaves bore like glass.
I have found that a nylon brush just doesn't clean nearly as well as a Dewey 22 caliber rimfire brush. Absolutely shocked how black my patches were after using nylon brush. Great video!
I had several CZ 457s and I traded all but 2 for a Anschutz 1710 in case I decided to get into some matches. I haven`t done any competition shooting for 20 years and then it was only bench rest so other types of competition will be all new and probably hard for an old man however I love shooting 22`s. Not sure where the matches are held but I will check around for them.
I do pretty much the same. But, after cleaning I put hopes oil on a patch. Run it then a couple of dry patches. Living in the Olympic mountains it's very humid. Often raining. Just to be sure there is a layer of protection from the moisture. Seems to work
Good idea Richard. Appreciate ya
I've just purchased my first rimfire rifle and I just cleaned & oiled it. I like to clean my new rifle before taking them out for the first time
Nothing wrong with that. Appreciate you watching
Yep your weren’t wrong with the length of your rod mate. Great stroking action as well. I mean it yours you can can clean it as hard and fast and as often as you like 👍jokes aside informative and great vid look forward to seeing the accuracy come back for you
Thanks brother. I think your gonna like a lot of what you see in the coming week for the videos
@@PursuitofAccuracy no doubt love the content will be looking forward to it
@@ninjabreadman733 CZ Redemption is in our future 🤣🤣
@@PursuitofAccuracy can’t have voodoo in anything other than a unicorn mask
THANK YOU JOSH ...!!!!! GREAT VIDEO ....!!!!!!!! DOUBLE G. HERE ...!!!!!
The only drawback on my Marlin model 60 is that I can't clean it from the breach end.....So you have to be very mindfull of the crown.......On all my guns the first thing I use as a pre-cleaner on cotton swabs is WD-40 and then I go to my other cleaners after that......I also only use carbon fiber rods with plastic tips.
After dry patching I saturate a bore mop with EASY OFF oven cleaner (basically a carbon remover for ovens) and 2-3 minutes later, I send a bore brush down it chucked in a cordless drill (*after seeing a popular firearm YT'er do it AND confirming its efficacy with bore scoping*). The result is amazing. *ZERO* scratching of the bore. Actually appears polished.
I don't worry about copper fouling. For one, .22 rimfire ammo is plated and even then copper only deposits until the irregularity/void fills or smooths out. *THAT'S WHY 10-20 fouling shots are fired after cleaning before shooting for score*. Gotta refoul the barrel.
Ive seen and used drills before but it only takes a second of something going wrong to turn out bad. I just use the rod and with very little effort its clean
Spray the brush with gunkout or break cleaner spray, that's how i spray clean the rod after spray it on the towel and wipe the rod down.
I use CRC BRAKLEEN TO SHIFT the carbon out of my barrels & bolts .I squirt in & out of the bolt till it runs clean then bloke the end of the barrel the fill it with Brakleen let it soak for 10 to 15 minutes drain & use nylon brush then clean rags then WD40 spray bolt & barrel then air hoes it away & wipe with clean rags ./
Good video. Where can I get Cz 457 mtr? Can’t find anywhere
I have found them mostly in non chain store gun shops. The larger chain stores don't keep them in stock but the smaller gun shops hold on to them longer it seems.
There has been one in my local gun shop for the last few months, I bought the twin to it, I will see if it is still for sale, it has the heavy Turkish walnut stock
Thanks you for the video. I just ordered the RF specific rod and jag. I’ve been using a .17 cal rod for my rimfires so we’ll see if this is a better fit, literally.
I like mine way better than a .17 rod
I give mine a quick blast of GunScrubber down the bore and then a couple of passes with a boresnake with oil on the end after every outing. Same with the bolts: Guns rubber the oil on a toothbrush. The .22's get thousands of rounds through them a year (kids love em) and no problems so far.
Great video!
I cleaned my new CZ 457 Varmint for the first time and noticed some brass fragments on my pads. I"ve only put about a 100 rounds of SK through it. Is this normal? also noticed a scratch on my spent shell casings
Why not use a bore snake ? I’ve been using those for years on all my rifles, and pistols. Works like a champ
I prefer Dewey rods and aluminum jags, but do use the Bore Tech guides on my CZ and Savage. I use Possum Hollow's guide on my Anschutz Mark 12. Nice video, thanks!
Ive used the dewey rods but go back to the boretec. The boretec jags are also aluminum. Cant go wrong with either
What size rod and jags do you use on match barrels with the tigher tolerance? I've heard people say the 22 I to tight
Thanks for the tips I’m going to pick up that cleaning rod looking forward to a video on disassembly of the Bolt also how do you Decock the Bolt on a CZ?
WOW you could really see the glass that Eley puts in there primer on the dirty patch
Thanks Josh
Awesome video Mate I’m cleaning my 455 tomorrow I’ll follow your lead it looks like an easy process , as I told you before mine will only shoot SK High velocity ammo , it would make sense that if it has a carbon ring in the chamber lead the high velocity stuff may have the extra power to overcome the ring by forcing through it , I’ll give it a real good clean then try some SK match std velocity ammo that it refuses to shoot with any accuracy l mean 3/4 inch with flyers out to 1.1/2 at 50 yards when I get .3 - .4s with the high velocity stuff , do you have any pointers with fouling the barrel after cleaning like how many rounds would you put through it before expecting the best accuracy it will deliver , thanks for your time and knowledge Mate , by the way I just fitted a timney trigger assembly can’t wait to try it out , Aussie Steve .
Hey Steve. It should tighten back up within 5-20 rounds
Links to the rod and bore guide? Maybe I missed you say it but anyways really enjoy your content thanks.
Great video !
I’m going to conclude that you do not like bore snakes and or bronze brushes. All the bore snakes I’ve seen have bronze brushes. Nylon is the only material that would allow the back and forth motion in the chamber area.
Yeah just not a fan of bronze brushes as i know the nylon wont cause harm
Is there any reason that you do not use an Otis cleaning kit, with the flexible, coated, cable?
I like the rod for scrubbing the chamber etc
That makes perfect sense.
Can you make a CZ Varmint 457 At-One cleaning video?
Thank You Sir! I noticed the Bore Tech nylon brushes have a higher density of bristle and an aluminum (apparently) center helix. Do you clean the brush with alcohol and dry with compressed air? 👍🇺🇸 #22aday
I actually have a jar of cleaner that i drop them into overnight after ive cleaned with them
Great video! That is how I will clean mine from now on! Thank you. Being old school, I rarely cleaned any of my rimfires until accuracy problems or reliability trouble showed up. Always ran patches wet with WD-40 and sprayed the brush to scrub. Cleaned the wax/powder fouling out well. :)
HAHA. I can't wait for all the hate messages to come in about me not removing the jag :)
@@PursuitofAccuracy Most of them simply cannot understand basic metallurgy. ;)
Related question: when doing ammo test which is better or what you recommend between types? shoot 10 cleaning/fouling shots or run a nylon brush once/twice (with/without solvent) or maybe brush then re-fouling 10 shots(or more?)..I guess if I used a chrono the re-fouling would be efficient time/ammo use.
If you have the patience and time I would do a light clean when switching ammo types
You mentioned you us a "Rim Fire specific rod " What is the difference between a rod for a .223 and a 22 rimfire rod ?
I purchased a .223 rod to get a longer length, Teflon coated rod that works great.
@@mikebowling3228 im honestly not sure. Just saw they had a rf specific which feels a tad slimmer than a 223 rod to probably clear most ejectors
Hi Josh, great video presentation as always, I value your opinion so i'd like to know how you go about cleaning your B14-R. What kind of bore guide do you use for that rifle? I'm having trouble finding a bore guide that actually fits the bolt channel without getting fouled by the ejector at the bottom of the channel.
I have tried several bore guides but none of them clear the ejector so are useless.
Now i am limited to using a snake to clean my bore as I don't like running a rod without a guide for obvious reasons, any help will be appreciated.
ATB.
I use my vudoo boreguide on the b14r without any issue. Its the boretec guide. I think the ejector is still kind of in the way but i also use the .22rf rod from boretec and im able to clean without any real issues.
Do you have any complaints about the boretech cleaning rod?
I normally use a Tipton but their 22 cal rod doesn’t fit in the bore of a CZ so I had to move to the 20 cal rod which requires that I use the 20 cal jag. I am not sure I’m getting the best cleaning with my setup. So I’ve been looking at new rimfire specific rods and jags.
Nope its been very nice
Carb cleaners work well,and bore snake I'm 62 and own probably 18-20. Shoot cz scout most of the time, shoot moa at 50, 90% of the time
I'm looking fwd to watching this later but it reminded me of a how to I haven't found yet. I'm new to your channel, so you have one of these for cleaning an all aluminum suppressors?
I dont unfortunately. I dont run any suppressors
The most important tool used to clean any firearm is a bore scope. Unless you actually look in the bore and see if it’s clean you are just guessing. Also carbon rings in a .22 are very common for that you need either JB or Iosso bore paste and some elbow grease their is no getting around it.
I borrow a bore scope from time to time to check my barrel out. I havent had much issue getting the carbon out but i may just be lucky too i suppose
Come on man 🤣
Teslong $50 on Amazon everyone should have one
Thank you for really useful info from a real sharpshooter !
Thanks Don
Thanks for your excellent video. I have a few questions. What size of jag are you using? I use the same size patches as you do, but it is very hard to push the jag/patch trough the bore (I mean VERY hard...) And my second question is when do you clean your .22? (Afetr how many rounds) I know the answer is usually « after it starts to shoot larger groups... » but as an average, how many rounds would it be?
Hey I use the boretec jag specifically for .22lr
My next video out i actually talk about tracking your shots. I recommend shooting from a clean barrel on paper to collect data on all that information so its no longer a guess
Do you have a bore scope? If not, you may be surprised by a carbon ring that leaves nothing on patches.
I dont own one but i have easy access to a very nice one
I'm new to CZ rifles. Is Ballistol good for cleaning? Good video.
Thanks for the video.
Great video Josh and man I love your gun room‼️ Never seen a vise like that, can you tell me about it?
Hey thats actually a really right stuff arca rail clamp i have screwed to the bench.
Its awesome if you run arca swiss rails on your rifles
@@PursuitofAccuracy is that a Area 419 rail on your stock? Is it possible for a couple of pics of the clamp? I'd like to install that on my bench. Thanks.
@@dennissitarski6651 yeah i use the area 419 rails.
Sure shoot me an email.
Joshuathomas4125@gmail.com
So I need to know how you have the stock clamped to the table, looks like a clamp to a pic rail, need some info on that. please
Im clamping it using the arca rail and an arca clamp mounted to my table
Love your vids. Two questions: How often do you take your barrel back to bare steel? Do you ever use a borescope after your regular cleaning process to see how clean the barrel is (or is not)? Seems like the general consensus is for 22LR to keep the barrel at some level of consistently dirty (never take back to bare steel), where as for shooters like F-Class or Benchrest, the barrels are always taken back to bare steel. I like Eric Cortina's explanation, he can keep a barrel consistently clean, but not consistently dirty. I fully realize 22lr is a different animal. My 457 Chassis seems to take about 50 rounds to settle back down after cleaning back to bare steel. Trying to find the happy medium.
I fully clean after 300 or so rounds on the competition guns. I use a borescope to verify carbon ring is gone and there are no issues each time I clean
Josh is it necessary to use a bore guide if using a Dewey rod that has a coating on it? What size square patch are you using? Do square do better than round? Thanks Dennis.
Dennis i would always use a bpre guide. If will help align your rod and save the coating from being rubbed off.
I use 1" square for loose applying chemicals etc and 1 1/8 for tight clean up patches
Would a ultrasonic cleaner work or be helpful with cleaning rather than the old school way of doing it?
Do you use the bore snake in between your major cleaning. Or maybe you wouldn’t recommend the bore snake. I have saw a lot about the bore snake being good for cleaning. Thanks for the video and information
I only use a bore snake on my hunting 22lr sporter chambers. For match rifles i dont let a boresnake near em 😁
@@PursuitofAccuracy ok thanks for the information.
Did the cleaning bring your accuracy back to normal? I have pretty much the same setup as you minus the trigger. Mine typically shoots in the high .3s - .4s with eley match 1060- 1065fps. I still felt like it could do better so i invested in a Harrell tuner and it took my high .3s down to low to mid .2s set at 281 and is very consistent. Thanks for sharing your cleaning regiment.
It did. Video releasing tuesday showing the after cleaning results and data 😁
I have issues with acuracy after clearing.... Always. And not just me
@@tomasstecker1818 means you're a bad shot.
Josh, does that Boretech bore guide actually fit against or directly into the chamber? Nice video! Thanks
It butts up to the chamber Carl
Are those Bore Tech patches too?
Why not inspect your cleaning efforts with a bore-scope long before you've run 20 patches through it?
The minute amount of stain on the patch looks like it's getting there from the chamber face as the patch folds into the chamber.
I clean the receiver area and chamber face while its soaking usually but i suppose you could bore scope it.
95% of people dont own a bore scope though
Great Video, Josh what was the cleaner you used and is it used just for rimfire guns? Looking forward to see next video to see what the data reveals.
Hey Frank. Its boretec rimfire blend. Designed for rimfires specifically
Good video, I am looking forward to the results. Josh put some shirts on his web site, I really like the shirts I got, and they fit, thanks brother
Thanks brother
I have been trying to save money for cz 457 mtr it’s have been a year and 3 months right now ☺️☺️
Good luck finding one, I've had one on order for close to 6 months. Its been so long I have all the upgrades purchased and sitting in a box, I have everything but a serial number.
@@gentlemanfarmer2391 dang
Is that a counter weight below your barrel? Where did you get it n how is it attached?
Its an arca rail for attaching bipods etc.
Its screwed into the stock
Just wondering what you think of the Tipton Felt Plugs.
I just prefer patches but the pelts are good too
What is your estimate of rounds to build a carbon ring, for your rifle anyway, I realize they all vary, aswell as the ammo a guy is using......
I think most start at anywhere between 100 and 200 rounds.
I akways have a carbon ring at 300 or so rounds.
But i think its something that starts early and builds
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thank You for the reply Sir.
@@ericrumpel3105 no problem at all
Totally unrelated: what is the multi colored wheel for ? It looked out of place in a gun room.
Hey Gary take a look at my last few cz vs vudoo videos. Its essentially a torture device for positional shooting contests we do
ok, so i assume that running a boresnake down the barrel will make people's eye explode?
No danger in it but its probably the worst rimfire cleaning tool made
Curious why you apparently don't wet patch. Is there a particular reason?
Just discovered your channel about a week ago and have been working thru the videos. Enjoyed the live feed the other day.
Hi Lunkydog. I wet patch at first to mop out the barrel with 2 wet patches. Then scrub very wet. The first few dry patches are really wet patches with that much cleaner already in the barrel.
Just my method. Probably a thousand ways to do it with same results
Could you please give me the part number for the bore brushes you used
Btnr-22-003
Lol, how’s that for timing…….. I was just messaging you last night about this. That teslong would have come in handy for this video
Haha nice
About how many rounds do you go through before cleaning? I've been doing it every time I go shooting with my 457, but whenever I go shooting I spend the entire day at the range, and go through maybe 600-1000 rounds?
I usually clean around 300ish rounds.
For Halloween 🎃 you should get a group of shooters together and shoot candy corn.
We do but the neihboors porches get banged up aweful bad 🤣🤣
@@PursuitofAccuracy LMAO!
Do you find that the ejector damages your cleaning rod? I have started removing that plate (#31 in the manual) when I’m cleaning my 457
I’m using a .17 cal rod.
Read elsewhere (RC) about the ejector scraping the .22 cal rod.
Using a Tipton one piece carbon fiber rod.
Are you using a .20 or .22 cal cleaning rod? I heard that some folks undersize the rod to prevent stuck patches. Just wanted to know what size you use and your experience behind using it regarding bore tightness/fit. If you mentioned it in the video, I may have missed it.
.22 rimfire specific rod
@@PursuitofAccuracy are you using .22 jag?
@@longhairdontcare6687 yes a 22rimfire specific jag
Why dont you modify your cheek riser so you dont have to disturb the bedding to clean? Use the holes on the cheek riser for a guide and drill two quarter inch holes in the stock. Enlarge them slightly with a round file. Enlarge the holes in the cheek riser and epoxy two quarter inch stainless pins in the cheek riser. The cheek riser can then be lifted off to insert the bore guide without loosening the action screws and potentially changing the bedding. If you enlarge the holes too much for the pins you can put velcro on the comb of the stock and the bottom of the cheek riser.
Honestly it doesnt bother me. The inletting on the manners is awesome
What size brush and jag are you using, .22? O need to switch up my cleaning tools. My .22cal Tipton rod feels horrible running over the ejector of the 457. Cz recommends using .17 or .20 rod, jag and brushes.
Could you please list what size guide, rod, jag and brushes your using
I second this?
What rod, brush and jag size are you using on the MTR barrel?
All boretec. Their 22rf rod, .22lr double jag, and .22lr nylon brush
Now days some benchrest shooters are brush cleaning cleaning after each target (25-30 shots)
Yeah. If i shot bench rest i may entertain that idea but i need to run 150 or so through the rifle at a match and trying to clean between stages etc would be a nightmare.
With the time they give for bench rest cards i would probably clean just to pass the time 😆
How many rounds before you clean it?
Between 300-500 but usually its before matches
After how many rounds do you clean the rifle
Depends on the rifle but typically every 2-300
Excellent demonstration. Would you recommend a brass brush for this process? And also would you recommend running just a patch with cleaner after each shooting, just to remove the loose carbon from the barrel?
Yeah i dont like the bronze brushes. You could certainly clean after every session. My next video touches on this
What are your thoughts on boresnake vipers?
Never heard of em
@@PursuitofAccuracy They're made by Hoppe's fairly common.
Josh, how do you feel about using felt pellets?
I prefer patches but nothing wrong with the pellets
How many shots after this clean to get your accuracy back!
20 or less
That’s a clean bore for sure
No oil in the bore?
Rimfire blend works as a rust preventative. I never oil any of my barrels
Hi Josh - great video!
When you tighten your action back down to the stock after cleaning, what torque settings are you using for the manner’s stock?
What about your MTR stock - what torque values do you use for those action screws?
I very much enjoy your videos - thanks.
Hi Ralph,
For the mtr stock I use 30-35 in lbs and 40-45 in lbs for the manner since it has aluminum pillars
@Pursuit of Accuracy I'm going to set my Tikka t1x 22lr trigger down to about 2 lbs and I was wondering what torque to set my action back to? So, some where between 30 - 35 inch pounds sounds about right to me
What length rod are you using?
I believe its the longest one they offer. Like a 28"
Thanks, I called them and the tech guy said Measure the full length of the rifle and get the next size longer. My rifle is 38 inches long he recommended a 40 inch. I also told him where I learned about there products, he said that he had gotten quite a few calls referencing your video. Thanks for videos, I’ve learned a lot…..
@@johnyoung4466 awesome. So maybe i should call and see if they want to send us some stuff hahahaha
@@PursuitofAccuracy that what I was thinking.
What guide ae you using?
The boretec guide. Love all of their stuff
what is the length of that barrel?
21"
Very good video (as are all of yours). You responded to one comment that "For match rifles i dont let a boresnake near em". Could you please elaborate on this? Why is a boresnake a bad idea? I'm clueless and would really be interested in your opinion.
If a boresnake had a nylon brush in it i would use it.
I just dont like having a bronze brush in my barrel as I think they are too aggressive
@@PursuitofAccuracy agreed on bronze brush. I shoot a lot of rimfire benchrest. I Take the bronze out of my bore snakes. I’ve noticed after boretech I can use Eezox and get more dirty patches also. A lot of CNC cut chambers help alleviate carbon build up as there’s no tool mark often associated with chambers that are reamed. I’m having a CZ barrel done like this. Tell Langley his “Widia Rep” says what’s up…I need to come plink around with you guys. It Might teach me a thing or 2 lol. Enjoy watching the videos.
@@dcs27006 awesome i will definitely tell the evil twin you said whats up.
Come on out and play
I have never clean a Gun more then a one time per year whit a boarsnake and Gun oil. Never have any ishu! Some times i takes yeras to clean
I have some rifles like that but none of them are match barrels where im trying to squeeze out all the accuracy I can
Great cleaning regime. Personally I use a bore snake after every outing, same practice with my shotguns. I use a propriety barrel cleaner on the actual snake. A few pull throughs, then dry patches. Toothbrush with some solvent around other internals, then dry off with lint. Bolt the same as you, with a smear of gun oil. I had cleanliness drilled into me by my dad and the army, fact is I cannot use a gun without cleaning it afterwards. I think people are inherently lazy, that coupled with 22lr is the muckyest round there is leads to problems that are avoidable. If you wound an animal because accuracy is down to your laziness? In my book totally goes against shooting ethics.
The old Lee Enfields had a cord pull-through [kept in the butt] which was drawn out the muzzle,so many of them had bad muzzle wear as they aged so it's a rod from the chamber for me no cords or other similar methods.
@@MrOlgrumpy I used those for years. Compared to modern bore snake materials they were just crude and lacked any real effect imo. Also there have been leaps and bounds in barrel construction since SMLE's were made. It is 2021 not 1940.
THE GRAY STUFF, ARE ALL LEAD RESIDUE.
Thanks Sam. After getting my own borescope, I was really kind of surprised how the barrel stayed actually very clean while the chamber quickly starts collecting lead and carbon. I suspect this is different on just about every barrel and chamber style. The lilja seems to get dirty very quickly.
👍👍
Thanks !!
Unless you are going to use a chainsaw file you will NOT damage your crown!!!
if your worried about damaging your Barrels you have some really Crappy barrels
Settle an argument lol. Grease or oil on the rimfire bolt,
Easy.....oil the body and grease the lugs
jb bore paste needed
Not being smart but what does the jb do for the barrel?
@@PursuitofAccuracy Really helps get hard carbon off. You can have clean patches but still have it there.
Rimfire tend to shoot better when they are dirty!! I clean my 22 when I won’t shoot for a while for corrosion protection🤙
I have had and seen rifles that do prefer to be dirty. This Lilja likes to be clean
i would never use a rod on my 22lr
Why not
After seven years and a couple thousand rounds my Ruger started having problems it was time to clean it.
Thoughts on bore snakes?
They make great lanyards... 🤣🤣
I use them on my sporter rifles but not my match rifles