Audio isn't usually "fixable." Anything more than a minimal change from the raw audio tends to wreck it...every. single. time. Never fix it unless that's the only option you have. It's faster to do ADR than to dump a stack of carefully tuned filters on top of the sound. This is also a good reason to capture some location ambient sound; if you need to ADR later, you've got a little bit of background noise to add back as necessary to make it sound more organic.
Oh yeah, I screwed up on a shoot once and didn't hit record twice on the Zoom, only once. Didn't notice the flashing light until 10 minutes elapsed. I had a shotgun on a camera that was good enough to splice in and get something that wasn't horrendous but the good audio from the Zoom will never magically appear. Fortunately it was a low-importance event for a local charity that didn't have to be shot at all and they're happy as long as the guy speaking could be heard. I never stopped kicking myself for that mistake and I learned from it. Because of that incident, sometimes I'll deploy one of my cheap camcorders with the primary purpose of catching better audio in case the primary audio fails for any reason. Better to have compressed on-camera mic audio from three feet away than audio from a camera ten feet away or no workable audio at all. If you want to learn all the ways your shooting work can fail by surprise, event videography is guaranteed to speed up that process tenfold. At least with a planned shoot you get takes; when John Q. Special Guest is speaking to an audience, he's not repeating five minutes of words for the camera that had a SD card buffer overflow and stopped recording.
Jody Bruchon however for a lot of shoots especially smaller budget ones it can be incredibly tricky to get actors back for ADR, all I'm saying is it's not that easy to just "do ADR"
Its surprising really, because I've worked in post for years and dealt with lots of horrible location sound. Recently took up location sound myself and it really isn't that hard to get right. I can only imagine non soundies just being careless, not booming because their arms get tired and start scooping. But after onlh a few shoots my dialogue stands up with the best of them. I think it helps to actually care and experience in post you know what you need.
@@jackgilltaylor The best advice I got was if you are unsure you got good audio grab the actor before they disappear and get clean wild lines on set, at the time, as long as performance is close you can edit lipsync flawlessly. In addition the pros are, the actor is in charactor, the acoustics will match perfectly, there's no costs. Obviously not the whole film lol, but if for instance you can't get the mic in close enough on a given scene and the lav (if they have one) isn't soundjng great because they're in a weird position like crouching. I've done it several times and its a god send.
Can you all please do a tutorial on how you did the CGI dinosaur? It looked very real. Also another audio tutorial on how you did the roaring sound. It was pretty terrifying. Thanks.
I can give you a tip: matching mouth movements can be very difficult, even for the person who originally said the line. Let them listen through headphones and watch the video while trying to replicate the line and it'll go a lot smoother; they can remember and repeat their cadence and tone better.
For me the audio was fine and just needed to use equalizer on the dialogue especially since a natural camera movement preset was added to make VFX more organic.
Hi guys. Thought I'd say I use basehead as my database tool at home. I use protools hd so being able to quickly tag a selection of a whole track is awesome. That and the audio gets added to the project so doesn't need reminding with anyone after. Just been using it in a 20 minute short we have submitted as part of an assignment at uni. Although RX is great I wouldn't recommend rendering on the effect to the clip because trying to change it later is a nightmare and means brining somthing else in. Add your atmos cloth feet first before doing any noise reduction. The other sounds may cover some of the noise up and you won't have to push RX as hard. Hope this is helpful to anyone just stuff if been picking up in a local tv and film studio.
sometimes, that loud background sound is really good. But, sometimes it doesn't. That scene you hated for audio about copy and pasting, to me, it sounds pretty good.
although it may not have helped in your example. when next using izotope. make sure to 'learn' the noise sample from a blank bit of noise, rather than the whole clip with dialogue. without breaths or anything as this is how the software learns what frequencies you are trying to remove.
need to run RX denoise Learn mode on audio without any dialog. Make it work a little harder on the low frequencies, and also use EQ after to kill rumble. Just make it sound natural. Running it as track based fx instead of copied to each clip would be simpler as well. Premiere can do that I think
Great tutorial and love the skits! Soundly is a great suggestion. You get 300 free sounds with the free version. This is really going to be helpful in my projects.
Can I see you guys doing a "Netflix Original" like a dark comedy thingy? will be really funny use have all the ingredients to create art. And I must say the acting is superb I give two thumbs up.
When the audio is that bad just come inside to a decent room, record the audio and add the audio track while killing off the audio track from the video feed. Will save you a lot of headache.
When you drag in an audio clip, does in not kind of click when the sample ends? I used to have this problem using audacity for music recording and solved it easily by fading out each sample to zero in a millisecond. It worked, but was very time consuming when working with say a vocal track where I was stitching together a master track from a bunch of takes. So can I skip this step if I used your way of dragging and dropping in audio samples? Thanks, great video, had me laughing.
Good old Film Riot complete with Josh gags.
“Ryan! Cut to me!” XD
Cut to me* lol
Oh! Skittles!
god dammit josh! i love you!! hahahaha
HAHAHA These guys kill me!! Please don't EVER stop!
I know that movie, it's Billy and the Clonosaurus
I felt like watching old FILM RIOT episode!!
Me too hahahaha!!!
Me too, and its fun to watch!
I miss the old Film Riot. 🥺
Emily's performance of Anton Chigurh is very much on par with Javier Bardem's.
Love how you found a way to mix skits back into the learning.
And that dinosaur roar(?) was EVERYTHING XD
Audio isn't usually "fixable." Anything more than a minimal change from the raw audio tends to wreck it...every. single. time. Never fix it unless that's the only option you have. It's faster to do ADR than to dump a stack of carefully tuned filters on top of the sound. This is also a good reason to capture some location ambient sound; if you need to ADR later, you've got a little bit of background noise to add back as necessary to make it sound more organic.
Oh yeah, I screwed up on a shoot once and didn't hit record twice on the Zoom, only once. Didn't notice the flashing light until 10 minutes elapsed. I had a shotgun on a camera that was good enough to splice in and get something that wasn't horrendous but the good audio from the Zoom will never magically appear. Fortunately it was a low-importance event for a local charity that didn't have to be shot at all and they're happy as long as the guy speaking could be heard. I never stopped kicking myself for that mistake and I learned from it. Because of that incident, sometimes I'll deploy one of my cheap camcorders with the primary purpose of catching better audio in case the primary audio fails for any reason. Better to have compressed on-camera mic audio from three feet away than audio from a camera ten feet away or no workable audio at all.
If you want to learn all the ways your shooting work can fail by surprise, event videography is guaranteed to speed up that process tenfold. At least with a planned shoot you get takes; when John Q. Special Guest is speaking to an audience, he's not repeating five minutes of words for the camera that had a SD card buffer overflow and stopped recording.
Jody Bruchon however for a lot of shoots especially smaller budget ones it can be incredibly tricky to get actors back for ADR, all I'm saying is it's not that easy to just "do ADR"
Batsy Absolutely, which is why it's so important to get audio right the first time!
Its surprising really, because I've worked in post for years and dealt with lots of horrible location sound. Recently took up location sound myself and it really isn't that hard to get right. I can only imagine non soundies just being careless, not booming because their arms get tired and start scooping. But after onlh a few shoots my dialogue stands up with the best of them. I think it helps to actually care and experience in post you know what you need.
@@jackgilltaylor The best advice I got was if you are unsure you got good audio grab the actor before they disappear and get clean wild lines on set, at the time, as long as performance is close you can edit lipsync flawlessly. In addition the pros are, the actor is in charactor, the acoustics will match perfectly, there's no costs. Obviously not the whole film lol, but if for instance you can't get the mic in close enough on a given scene and the lav (if they have one) isn't soundjng great because they're in a weird position like crouching. I've done it several times and its a god send.
Watch Josh brilliant acting again
1. 2:03 Jurassic Park
2. 5:25 The Silence Of the Lambs
3. 9:59 No country for Old Men
You're welcome.
Daniel Ortega Thanks buddy ⭐
Thanks so much 😂😂
knew it all. altho the last one with the lil girl came more along like True Grit to me :D
haven't seen any of those... should I get out more?
I LOVE the Josh bits.
No Country for Old Men was SOOO good. :)
i love how you explain basic film stuff and still make it interesting
I have so missed Film Riot's comedy. Excellent!
Can you all please do a tutorial on how you did the CGI dinosaur? It looked very real. Also another audio tutorial on how you did the roaring sound. It was pretty terrifying. Thanks.
They spared no expense.
Dave Henkensiefken Touché. I see what you did there. 😄
I was more interested in the actual ADR example so yes please do a video on ADR.
I can give you a tip: matching mouth movements can be very difficult, even for the person who originally said the line. Let them listen through headphones and watch the video while trying to replicate the line and it'll go a lot smoother; they can remember and repeat their cadence and tone better.
I second the ADR request.
Popped up in my notifications. I thought film riot left it as a comment in one of my videos. I was so honored to have a comment from film riot lmao
For me the audio was fine and just needed to use equalizer on the dialogue especially since a natural camera movement preset was added to make VFX more organic.
YAS, back to the old school format, funny and informative
10:05 The "No country for Old Men" lucky coin plot is the greatest ever. EPIC! :)
Consider using Splice for sound effects, its half the price per month and they have EVERYTHING.
Hi guys. Thought I'd say I use basehead as my database tool at home. I use protools hd so being able to quickly tag a selection of a whole track is awesome. That and the audio gets added to the project so doesn't need reminding with anyone after.
Just been using it in a 20 minute short we have submitted as part of an assignment at uni. Although RX is great I wouldn't recommend rendering on the effect to the clip because trying to change it later is a nightmare and means brining somthing else in.
Add your atmos cloth feet first before doing any noise reduction. The other sounds may cover some of the noise up and you won't have to push RX as hard.
Hope this is helpful to anyone just stuff if been picking up in a local tv and film studio.
This episode couldn’t have come out at a better time for me. This is the exact kind of audio problem solving I was going to do today.
OMG the cut scenes, my stomach hurts 😂😂
The sketches are literally gold every time! Missed them so much!
CUT TO ME RYAN
Love this episode! “Ryan cut to me!” Lol!
Coming back to 13:17 anytime I need to laugh in life! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
i love those breaks with josh and everyone else. makes my day
So good....so so good....classic FR!!!
sometimes, that loud background sound is really good. But, sometimes it doesn't. That scene you hated for audio about copy and pasting, to me, it sounds pretty good.
10 out of 10 for the T-Rex acting!!! :-D
The humor is back!! love it!
SoundSoap plugin also works but only just so much, and you do get that tin can underwater sound. Great job at replacing audio!!
Omg I felt like I went back in time the great classic film riot with still a bunch of great info dropped!
Those sketches you have in your episodes are so fun! :-D
although it may not have helped in your example. when next using izotope. make sure to 'learn' the noise sample from a blank bit of noise, rather than the whole clip with dialogue. without breaths or anything as this is how the software learns what frequencies you are trying to remove.
Not only was this an unexpected solution to a sound issue I had, but you all sweded like pros.
Love your videos! Not only do I learn a lot, but I laugh a lot too! (Loved your "Jack Benny" distracted looks!)
This type of content is why I started following you guys years ago. Hilarious and informative 🙌🏻
Emily's accent KILLED me man
Younger siblings, you can't live with them, you can't live without them... lol.
Lmao
So I tried Soundly's free version after watching this. It is fantastic. It is so easy to find my effects now. Thanks for the suggestion Ryan!
ADR episode please!!! Also, Josh first walk-in made me laugh out loud! Legend
I think this is my favorite sketch!
I've been following you for years...You guys are great and informative on your vids....love it.
HAHA "Ryan, cut to me, Part two's ready."
Just paid for Soundly and I Love it!! Thanks for the recommendation !
The interruptions always get me laughing these tutorials are awesome!
Good stuff. Looking forward to seeing how you replaced the dialogue as well!
need to run RX denoise Learn mode on audio without any dialog. Make it work a little harder on the low frequencies, and also use EQ after to kill rumble. Just make it sound natural.
Running it as track based fx instead of copied to each clip would be simpler as well. Premiere can do that I think
The cut scenes were brilliant
the homage to No country for old men had me weeping for days.
Josh and Ryan interactions are the best! Lol.
Great tutorial and love the skits! Soundly is a great suggestion. You get 300 free sounds with the free version. This is really going to be helpful in my projects.
I freaking love you guys!
That kind of comedy (I don't know what is it called) is truly a timeless style of Film Riot since the beginning of the Earth
The second Jurassic Park is so perfect. Those roars 👌
That Josh gag made me laugh so hard. Yes.
Oh Ryan that was PHAT!!! Love it!
When the connolly’s are around. Lol. ENJOYED THIS EPISODE MORE THAN I SHOULD. 😂
O.M.G Josh is really a pain in the ass 😂😂😂 I daren't even imagine the number of times that you want to strangle him🤦🏼♂️
Why film riot don't have million viewers ... ??.. why??..
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You guys are the best. THE BEST!
“Come to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee” rofl. U guys are amazing
Dude that was sooo good!
2:37 , Ryan's most iconic face.
Awesome video, was hoping you were going to show the ADR for the vocals
I'm definitely gonna be hopping on the Soundly train. My first big foley project would have definitely been easier with it. nice.
Great episode and awesome find with Soundly. Just signed up, that should save me at least 7 Neapolitan Cow 🐄 buttloads worth of time.
The last scene with the dino suit killed me😂😂
This is fantastic! Looks totally worth the $15 a month!
you guys are f@$% hilarious...the skits draw me in.
Can I see you guys doing a "Netflix Original" like a dark comedy thingy? will be really funny use have all the ingredients to create art. And I must say the acting is superb I give two thumbs up.
What is the songs name in joshs car tho
First comment from Egypt ... love u ryan 😊
Yes! More Josh!
Can't wait to hear your podcast Ryan. Also, are you guys getting merch at the Triune store anytime soon?
Brilliant. Really intresting, useful and lots of fun
You guys are good actors.
Josh honestly has the best comedic timing I've ever seen
Knock, knock?
Who's there?
Steve...
ADR Episode! Yes!
Wait. That sketch wasn't _real?_ My life is a lie!
Cut to Josh.
Gags, bored Josh interrupting, Emily, after black-screen gag.. Oh, how I like a classic Film Riot episode!
Emily as Anton Chigurh = most brilliant thing you've ever done!
Everything with Emily in it is brilliant.
... Monday Challenge using Soundly would be a lot of fun...
There's nothing better than to add some sounds to your videos.
THE HUMOUR, I LOVE IT! #NewOldFilmRiot
good ol' Film riot is back
When the audio is that bad just come inside to a decent room, record the audio and add the audio track while killing off the audio track from the video feed. Will save you a lot of headache.
josh was amazing this time
love the josh gag.
oh thats sweet. im going to get that. ihave tons of sound but they are not organized at all
I should probably replace my audio in a couple projects, but I keep hustling to bigger and better projects.
Thats awesome "Cut to me"
This is awesome! What would you recommend for changing the pitch of a singing voice , one that's off key to fix it ???
I'm a middle school filmmaker and my goal is to make filmmaker that are as good as Ryan's. Love the show!
Awesome 🔥
I have a new favorite person in life... that "cut to me" Guy
One of the funniest in awhile. 😜
~ Adam
When you drag in an audio clip, does in not kind of click when the sample ends? I used to have this problem using audacity for music recording and solved it easily by fading out each sample to zero in a millisecond. It worked, but was very time consuming when working with say a vocal track where I was stitching together a master track from a bunch of takes. So can I skip this step if I used your way of dragging and dropping in audio samples? Thanks, great video, had me laughing.
He nailed the flaps !
Did you ever get around to doing the ADR video? Would love to see how you go about it!
Take 2...?
I think they had audio issues?
ending rocks...