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I thought one of the major themes in this show was the idea of a wolf in sheep clothing. In the final episode Paul even refers to them as wolves. Also the idea that religion can so easily be manipulated, Bev is constantly reciting bible verses and popular religious quotes to support whatever conclusion she believes to be right. In that way religion too can be seen as a wolf in sheep’s clothing if misinterpreted.
no yes!! like the fact that the moment paul gives bev a reason for her to not follow him, even though she’s been his most loyal companion, she starts spouting verses about how you shouldn’t trust priests and stuff
Bev’s character disgusted me and, in my opinion, is a representation of a false believer that uses and twists scripture to support their own selfish, egocentric interpretation that best supports their views…cherry-picking scripture and taking verses out of context to suit their needs. True Christians shouldn’t behave this way, but unfortunately as sinners, many do still do this. That’s why it’s so important to read the best translation possible that even offers deeper understanding and context of certain words in the way they were supposed to be understood in its original meaning, context, and understanding. Excellent show…I was hooked till the very end!
How ironic that in the end the holy rosy herself “BEV” was a coward. She could not face the end with dignity and faith. Everyone was singing or praying and she was digging a hole to escape the consequences of her choices. Classic !
She was portrayed that way because she thought her "indoctrination" would give her salvation. You could say, she was the most devout which is why she had difficulty accepting her outcome. The other people made peace. It's a very deep movie with a lot of parallels.
@@mogtrader8 I also got the feeling she saw herself spiritally above everyone - to be saved. I was half expecting her to survive at the end was so releaved when she met her end and realised she was just like the others but the difference they have came to peace and acceptance and died together - she was ostracised and died alone and never repented for what she did.
That's what made me cry and when there voices just stopped at exactly the same time was chilling. her death was too quick she showed herself to be a coward earlier when she hid and did not want the last death. When judgement comes people will be trying to dig not to face it.
I love how Erin clips the wings of the 'angel' as a nod to the moment when she had to clip the wings of the doves because her mother said to. Doves are also a religious symbol
I think the angel is an actual angel. We have no definitive proof what an "angel" looks like but with knowledge of the Bible, they can mirror a vampire. These are miracles, marking wrist and sacrificing self and blood to save others. That resembles Jesus and the miracles people believe in God hoping to have.
That bat just survives at the ending. 2 kids assume the bat couldn't survive if it flew like that. That makes me smile, because kids alway tell what they see, lacking of knowlege about everything, same with their life experience. So I think that big bat is still alive.
to the people who wonder why Riley killed himself: he ultimately killed himself for a few reasons. in the show, Riley is most known for his guilt and his past alcoholism. He hadn't had a drink in years and his version of recovery was seeing his addiction as separate from himself so he could isolate it and control it. The guilt, on the other hand, was consuming him. You can see, from the moment that Paul tells him the truth of being turned and when Riley nearly rips Bev's throat out (she would've deserved it 🤷🏻), he understands that he has to kill himself. Because to him, this is his addiction. Becoming a vampire where he would be unable to control his thirst would be his absolute worst nightmare, his personal hell. Losing control of himself was so frightening and repulsive that he would rather die. He also couldn't live with his guilt forever and he would have as a vampire. He would have lived forever consumed by his guilt and only watching it get worse as he was unable to control his thirst. He saw a future where he would be in misery, where he has the very large potential to kill the people he loves, and decided that being dead was better than that. in a way, his suicide was holy.
@waibaddahyou? he also explicitly told her NOT to do that which i found funny. "Erin, i know you're gonna want to save everyone which is why i put you on a boat so you can save yourself" and she went "no 💖"
Yes it was, His death was beautiful, sacrificing himself for the reasons you said above and the kid that he killed was waiting for him with out stretched arms his sacrifice redeemed himself even though that's not what he was thinking. Then snapping back to the hard reality of him burning in that boat I believe he had gone by then. it was such a beautiful shoot. In the background i could hear screaming I have never felt that of thing the screams of fear and realizing he was speaking the truth but the carried on right through the titles finished me. Brilliant just brilliant
@Adam Cinq-Mars Yes I saw understood it that way plus other levels that's why I cried for him she forgave him and because he sacrificed his life he was welcomed home. I also feel that everyone on the island realized the truth that it was not a resurrection by God even the priest realized his mistake they all asked for forgiveness I like to think that they made it home except Bev. She never asked for forgiveness. She died too quick but she never went home.She will have to come back.
For me it's the moment between Eddie and Annie. When they confirm that free will is still theirs and others are killing because they want to. That, and Hassan and Ali on the beach.
@@hayleenicole9326 I mean they aren't wrong. The most compelling scene was the pta meeting. It shower both the standing up for religious freedom and also the suffocating of the sherriffs point by mass Christians.
The son made me upset. Father usually knows best but not according to stubborn Ali. On the flip side dad (sheriff) didn't belive in the beginning either. Both meeting their fate⚰🪦🔫☀️🔥
The scene where Hassan prays for the last time with his son and falls down in his prayer and dies and his son place his hands over his dad's head comforting, while he burns away. Toke my breath away! It hit me Sooo hard!
@@moxiemaxie3543 same with op, hassan's death took my breath away too. in islam, we called it "shaheed". the term can be applied to those who is killed while sacrificing their lives for God's cause. and to die as a shaheed is an honour. lots of muslims desire this title if they must die bcs of the great reward
Mike Flanagan and Robert Eggers are completely redefining the "horror" genre, in my opinion. Mike says "yeah it's a vampire story, but in the meantime I'm gonna talk about coping with guilt, the consequences of fanaticism, trauma, the afterlife, and of course alcoholism." The part that absolutely broke me to tears was when Leeza confronted Joe, and then after, how Joe spoke at the AA meeting. That stuff just really hit home to me.
I like how he didn't dismiss religion as the scourge that some zealots have made it, but as a warning of what can happen when you use it as a weapon against others. At least that's how I see it. I'm no longer Catholic, but I was definitely reciting some of the parts of the mass along with the character.
As a Christian, I absolutely love the portrayal of Bev. She’s your typical “holier than thou” Bible thumper who thinks she’s better because she served the church and etc, and believe me there are plenty of people who are like that the even the Bible has warned us about. The lesson the show presents such as the dogma of religion, not just Christianity/Catholicism specifically, is inherently evil and wrong, and that the religious figure tied to a religion would never endorse the lengths Bev made. Just goes to show that religion itself can easily be distorted and used for something sinister rather than to save people from themselves and damnation. Muslim, Buddhist, atheist or Christian, we’re all imperfect human beings who are just trying to be better people.
It was a really well done series although I hate how Christianity is portrayed again but it makes sense since many of the western Christians behave like Bev.
This wasn't a show of portrayal. This was way beyond that. It was about having people reflect on their own beliefs (Roman Theology) and to question their own beliefs. This was deep and a masterpiece because we never saw anything question main stream Christianity, certainly not with this quiver. We've seen stigmata, exorcisms, and plenty of good vs evil, but we've never seen anything re-interpret the bible in such manner.
It was beautiful but he was a coward which he admitted by telling Erin he isnt as strong as her. Cuz he couldve just told all that to her at her house and show proof with his hand exposed to the sun and then help them stop them. But nope
Nah, he did the best he could, prison hollowed him, he would've given in to the list and eaten folks. Only his parents were strong enough to join together to fight the urge
This show has a lot to unpack, for me personally. It's a sensitive topic but I think the show tackled religion quite well. It's especially interesting to me how the priest didn't feel any guilt for the death he caused, using faith to absolve himself. While Riley, refusing God, carries the burden himself right to the very end.
Priest is a human also.. which is sinful nature.. but he drink and false doctrine in the beginning in the movies that is actually harmful to his mind.. he tell sarah mom which he love, he did this because he love her when she sick and getting old.. and turn he was wrong
They don’t do a good job of tackling religion at all not at all 😂😂 but as a Christian I enjoyed the twist on biblical doctrines if it were mythology. There are no vampires or angles that can give you blood to live on in the Bible those two things totally break from any Abrahamic religion so the rest can just be entertainment
@@Berryations They did. This was a master piece bringing up the topic of death, which is common grounds for all religion. In essence this filmed used subjective interpretation of the bible amd roman theology and turned it into horror. No where does the bible ever describe how angels are supposed to look like, other than the fact that humans were not to be "fearful" of them. This was much like the allegory of the cave. We associate angels with what we see in the chapel, in art, because its depicted that way, much like Jesus and Mary. This film is really deep, if you were really into that kind of stuff.
on behalf of all Muslims, thank you Mike Flanagan for not disrespecting or putting Islam down the way we are used to Hollywood doing it. I loved when Bev called Omar a terrorist as he literally saved the world lol. I am a huge fan of Mikes and cannot wait to see what he does next
@@dragonchr15 I think a lot of the townsfolk do harbor implicit resentment towards him, though. In the classroom scene when the Sherriff brought up mandatory bible issue and Bev lambasted him, nobody stood up for him and even the Scarboroughs seemed to look at him in disdain (except for Erin)
when the sheriff decided to leave with his son and the devil popped out in the church with his robe was some of the scariest stuff ive seen , especiall having him walk the isle and everyine being pressured to drink the poison. Really taught me in times we need to be brave to stand out from the crowd when evryone is doing wrong we need to be brave and do whats right.
I think my favorite dialogue from the series was at the end of episode 6: Bev (To Erin): "You could shoot me right now. It would mean I'm only five minutes behind-" *Erin shoots her* Erin (to the group of survivors): "we have five minutes." Lmao 😂😂
Mike Flanagan secured his spot on my list of favorite writer/directors. His ability to tell stories, especially horror, in a limited series format is unmatched. The Haunting of Hill House, The Haunting of Bly Manor, and Midnight Mass are some of the best installments to the horror genre I genuinely can’t wait to see what he does next
@@sobrenombre13 I’ve actually seen all of those except for Before I Wake and I enjoyed them but his limited series are so much better in comparison and they give him the opportunity to show off his monologue writing ability and create a full, emotional, deep, multilayered horror story with really developed characters and tons of amazing details, each show exploring different themes and types of relationships (like how Hill House is about a family that’s grown apart as they got older, whereas Bly Manor is about a family being created between characters that aren’t related)
This show was so great. The moment at the end when Erin combined her belief of the afterlife with Riley's made me cry so much. It was an absolutely beautiful interpretation of the inevitability a death but also the comfort of returning to where we all come from
How is it comforting to return to being nothing? You can never change the empty reality of a materialistic death view, no matter how you sugar coat it or decorate it with seemingly intelligent/scientific explanations. .
@@plamondonworks6948 Exactly. Plus, I’ve always thought eternal life sounds awful. I definitely don’t want to be conscious forever and ever. A limited time of existence makes life all the more beautiful in my opinion.
We’re just a form of energy, cells, molecules, atoms that’s also an ingredients from the universe we are the universe itself. When we die we only live in someone’s memory until that someone also dies and then there’s no one will remember us.
I like how they never showed Ali taking communion after his dad forbade him from doing so, so when Ali drinks the poison we weren’t sure whether he’d come back to life, but when he did it confirmed he’d disobeyed his father
@@360.Tapestry I honestly think they should have made the "Angel" seem a little more "Angel like" but still scary, instead of literal freaking Nosferatu with bat wings.
I like the abrupt silence when they were singing . Its mirrors how abrupt facing death can be. Its the same tactic infinity war did after they got snapped. The silence doesn't distract you from the horror and allows it to sink in. We're forced to hear our own thoughts
I find the sheriff's and his kid's death so touching. Earlier the sheriff said his wife prayed all the way to the end of her live, through her entire illness she did not lose faith, thus him being so hurt that Ali wanted to attend the Catholic church and stopped praying with him( as well as the fact that he was doing that giving in on the brainwashing adoctrination that Bev was pushing in the school). They both prayed all the way to the end, the sheriff gave in on his wounds mid prayer and Ali simply watched the sun come out one last time. One besides the other. Together. I'm a raging atheist, but i see the appeal of religion for so people. The feeling of something major, something being orchestrated by a higher power can be calming for some people despite not believing the entire lore thing. The sheriff himself said he was not particularly religious, he was Muslim because of his wife and kind of carried it with him after her death as a way of reminiscing her or maybe because he ended up growing into it. It made him feel some kind of way, it could either be spiritual or personal but he did not leave religion aside. The simple act of praying, meditating, is a very internal and personal thing. Those two doing it together as the last thing they would ever do joins them in a bond attached to the late mother of the kid. I was already crying at that point but it absolutely shattered me.
Beautifully said. I came in to this show expecting one thing (a typical "religious horror" kind of affair) but at the end of it, I was genuinely surprised by the beauty and poignancy of the show. Also, no lie - when Rahul Kohli (the sheriff) slumped over, I was a blubbering mess.
Atheist too. Cried like a baby when the Muslim dad and son prayed at the end. This was the best rendition of having good intentions(even though we find out the selfish reasons at the end) and using religion to attain it. This same concept can be used with politics as well. Bravo to filmmakers
@@sparrowhawke I thought the writing for the Muslim sheriff was great. His explanation against religion in school. Him trying to prove how American he was after 9/11 only to be suspected himself. Etc etc
Favorite parts of this series: -Hamish Linklater’s performance as Father Paul. Absolutely mesmerizing. -Bev clawing and digging into the sand trying to hide from her fate -Erin’s monologue about what she thinks happened to her baby. -the sudden silence at the end when everyone who was singing caught fire -the silent credits at the end except for the sound of water lapping against the rowboat -Joe Collier and Leeza’s scene where she forgives him -Riley’s death and him saying that he loved Erin and did his best.
@@Ananyaaaya I personally hated Leeza's speech "forgiving" Joe. She wasn't actually forgiving him ... she was tearing at his scars. I don't blame her ... she had worse scars. But I wasn't "touched" by it. I actually thought less of Leeza for it.
Absolutely. She didn't seem too cartoony at all and I was so relieved. She was very good at being exactly like SO many people ive met and exist out there
The ending is an interesting mix of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion (Erin sacrifices herself; good triumphs over evil) plus Taoist (Erin's monologue about self being an illusion) plus Buddhist (true salvation is to die with peace and acceptance, which everyone on the island except Bev did).
I've not seen anyone else mention this but I noticed a lot of the characters said 'I did my best' and it hit me hard because, as adults, we're all thinking we're doing our best but sometimes it's either not good enough or it's just completely wrong. Also, at the end of it all, does it matter? We do our best and then return to dust. It's just a line that got me pondering.
No one in the show said Vampire once...or was smart enough to say.. Looks mate, that's a demonic creature not an angel 😂 But I will say one thing.. The dead woman (ghost - vision) from the car crash with the broken shards of glass embedded all over her face while the siren lights flickering on the pieces of glass.. Is probably one of the most beautiful - disturbing - freakiest things I've ever seen!
I guess it's like in zombie movies how no one ever says zombie or knows what's going on. Suspension of disbelief kinda thing, maybe in this world they don't have media about vampires. 🤷♂️ Just my thought process at least
I thought it was intentional to describe how easy a religious person can be manipulated. So, they know it is not an angel but because paul and bev say it’s an angel then they believe it. You know to show that people will believe in anything as long as they get something in return.
Yes, that was a Wow moment. I saw Riley as a Coward during the movie but I found it interesting that he told his girlfriend on the boat that he wasn't as strong as her. In my opinion I think he wanted to go (die🔥☀️) because the teen👻 and pain.
Beverly FUCKING Kean is the real villain. Loved the series! Had some powerful scenes, great dialog\acting and well executed jump scares. I usually fine jump scares to be a really cheap overused tactic but Mike Flanagan executed them to perfection!
Erin's monologue at the end made me cry so hard.. as an agnostic I struggle with the religious subjects Mike tackles in Midnight Mass.. I found her monologue just amazing and eye opening
I saw someone else comment about the mix of different religions in the show, they also mentioned taoism as Erin's monologue.. So I'd definitely check that out it I were you!!
From a biblical standpoint I can understand how he first thought it was an angel. Angels aren’t supposed to look like humans. They are scary creatures with wings. But from a non biblical standpoint that thing is clearly a vampire lol
@@dariantillman7050 i guess because I’m not religious or was raised in such environment, the whole vampire is an angel is baffling to me ( it stressed me out lmao). But given Bev’s explanations with the buble passages I can see that from such a zealot pov that could be a thing.
@@Didi_Online I feel you. Considering most of the people on the island were so blinded by religion that they automatically assumed that vampire was an angel lol. If you google Seraphs, Cherubs, and Ophanims you can see how a lot of the angles are different from one another. But none of the angles in the Bible drink blood or combust in sun so yeah it was pretty obvious from our standpoint that it was a vampire lol
@@dariantillman7050 Agreed. It wasn't friendly and it freaked me out when it appeared at the door! Well executed. This show was done really well, especially utilizing Roman Theology.
@@dariantillman7050 yep, and the fact that no one in the island, not even Paul or Bev or the rest of the apostols said "hey, that's a demon and we turning into bloody vampires", really bothers me...
😭😭😭I cried for the whole last episode, especially when Erin gave her final thought about life and that she only sees the truth about it only when she's about to die😔😔
I think about the final line: ‘I can’t feel my legs.’ The doctor was talking about EPP and other possible contagions. She mentioned that our bodies would eventually heal itself or ‘clean’ those infected blood cells to go back to normal. Maybe since she had not taken “communion” the Angel blood wore off? Also, in some of the older vampire movies if you killed the ‘master’ then everyone goes back to normal. Could this be right??
I took it to mean that the 'Angel' had died in the sunlight trying to cross the Ocean. Like you said, in classic vampire tales when the OG vampire (or werewolf) is killed everyone goes bak to normal
But they never address that vampires even exist in this world, never mind the “rules” for them. I think it was just part of Flanagan’s idea about how people twist and justify horrible things with their faith, or use it as an excuse for not facing the results of uncomfortable life decisions. He’s hiding the creature, bringing him from exile to a new flock. It reminded me of how the Catholic Church hid and defended war criminals, some very disgusting Popes, individuals wanting power, priests and others in the hierarchy abusing children, as well as having affairs with underage teens and/or adults married or single, then hiding them, as well as often moving them and placing these “wolves” among a new flock who are given no knowledge of the person’s background. Just as he pretends to be the replacement, instead of the man they’ve all known for years. He then preys upon a man who trusted him, of which he feels no guilt for, as he justifies the predatory behavior via his religious delusions. It also shows how easily people can be fooled into believing a monster is an Angel. I mean it was a Catholic Church, but a comparison with a Reagan, Nixon, Trump, etc. and evangelicals could be made, though I don’t know Flanagan’s politics or if he’s explained any of the themes so far.
@@mariellas7369 I don’t think we can rely on that vampire myth, because vampires don’t seem to exist within the world of the movie. No one even mentions any other supernatural creatures. Not one person says it could be a demon. The sheriff would’ve been likely to mention the Djinn, for instance. Not just no vampire talk, but no other type of monster is spoken of either. I don’t think it matters whether the “Angel” was destroyed or not, which is one reason we don’t see it. The girl only missed communion that one time. It’s just as plausible that missing one communion was the reason, yet both are logical conclusions that work for the story.
Riley’s monologue (and Erin’s final one) about death really hit home for me as an atheist. They perfectly described how I feel about what happens when we die, but I’ve never been able to put it that eloquently. You don’t need a god or religion to see our existence as beautiful or purposeful.
I thought the show was a metaphor for addiction. Riley was an alcoholic and killed a girl in an accident, and she (his guilty conscience) always follows him and is a constant reminder of his past. When Pruitt converts him, he feels that same “thirst” he had when he was an alcoholic and that’s why he was so against this whole vampire cult thing and eventually sacrificed himself for the safety of others. At the end when some of the towns people claimed to be unable to stop themselves from killing their family or friends, that’s their addiction taking hold of them. While others, like Ali and Riley’s parents, abstained from killing because they knew it was wrong and that they didn’t need to kill (even though they still feel that painful thirst). At the beginning they all looked down at Riley for killing that girl in a drunk driving incident, but at the end they all felt that same aching feeling of their addiction.
I know the internet has taught ppl everything is tunnel vision black and white but media isn't forced into a box. You can have multiple metaphors, themes and lessons. The show had faith and forgiveness as its back bone. You don't have to force the show nor yourself into a box of tunnel vision ❤
@@moxiemaxie3543 I wasn’t saying that was how the whole show was meant to be interpreted, you’re right not everything has a single universal meaning. My comment was just one of the metaphors I caught on to. I was just surprised that I haven’t seen anyone else make that connection.
@@arikawalton9922 I like the way u interpreted it. We are all subjective in what catches our attention first. I personally thought that Riley killed himself because he couldn't, as an atheist, accept how supernatural things were happening and that their nature was evil. I think one of the best lessons u can learn from this is, as u said, how destructive addictions can be, especially nowadays with everything being so accessible.
Had the depth of a guy checking to see which breaker in the the electrical box controls the living room- "No, that wasn't it". A truly false moment from a very good actor.
I have a personal theory : the death of the priest Pruitt in his office. Some say it was due to an overconcentration of the demon's blood in his body. But he died spitting a bloody foam, just like the dog that was poisonned. So I think it was Bev who poisoned him. Episode 3 she saw the picture of him younger and seemed to realize who he is. Later, we see her putting a box of poison back in the closet, without knowing what she did with it. We also see her filling the priest's fridge with food she prepared. I think she wanted to test the miracle she understood of the priest being the Chosen One.
I thought the same thing when I saw that. Clearly, she decided to poison him but I don't get why. When she was at his house later, it seemed like Paul.was closer with her than a lot of other people, maybe because she works so much in he church. Maybe he had already told her who he really was and about the "angel" and she decided to test out a theory.
@@carter358 I think you are right. Makes total sense.Why would they even bother to put the scenes with Bev and the poison and her staring at the picture if it didn’t mean anything.
That makes sense logically except it doesn’t feel correct to the portrayal of her character. They even suggested subtlety that Bev was a little bit in love with Father Paul. The pain she expressed when he turned against her at the end, and the level of nastiness she threw at him, showed how emotionally invested she was in him. Would she take that risk by killing him without knowing he would resurrect? Given that she doesn’t really trust god’s plan, hence the desperately digging into the ground knowing god won’t save her, I don’t think she really had faith to begin with.
Really liked how this show both deconstructed and reinforced religion in general. It’s a beautiful critique of our own faith and an apt caution to the dangers of over zealotry and religious pride.
It was pretty obvious what was going to happen in regards to certain people de-aging, just based on the glaringly obvious aging makeup on the elder Pruitt and some of the other residents. Other than that, this series was damn near perfect, for me. Really enjoyed it. Also, props for getting through that medocal pronunciation. That one is a mouthful!
Right? that was my only (well kind of only) critique. Why couldn’t they have just had multiple actors for each character? The makeup wasn’t good enough and the young actors didn’t have the elderly body language down.
So much this. My only critique. I was mystified why the “old” people had baby powder in their hair and why the docs mom seemed so weird: Cuz they were younger actors in bad makeup.
Yeah those effects were terrible. That and the first half of the first episode was really clunky and had a lot of awkward exposition dialog. But it ironed itself out
@@tinar8828 Using different actors would've been weird I think. The obvious solution would be the use CGI but that costs money and I have the impression that the blew most of their VFX budget on the monster alone.
This whole series just showed the power of indoctrination. people can be swayed into believing just about anything.. now this show had a 10 foot tall vampire performing miracles but even without if you look at the personal stories you see it wasn't simply the magical vampire blood that swayed them it was the promise of purpose, redemption, After-life.. all these people were seeking something and the 10 foot tall vampire was selling a cure. people will say this is none-sense no one would think a vampire was an angel but think about it if you were there and watched a little girl bound to a wheel-chair stand up and walk.. would you believe it was the work of a God or the devil.
Yes, the show is also about religious blindness and the need to believe that there is something better of a useless and sad life. This blindness and desperate need make people trade God for Evil, Angels for Demons. In general, sadly, it happens most of the time.
And something I noticed at the very end - this Vampire has no fear of entering Holy places or Crosses - either it wasn't a vampire or from some pre christian time so the religion has no effect on it? Great series.
So many have complained about the many monologues, but I find them really well done and pretty insightful, and possibly containing some important “life lessons”. Definitely not boring to me at all.
Because many people now-a-days cannot cope with thought provoking dialogue as they are fed on exposision and pointless jump scares and have to be fed everything to them for them to understand instead of using thie brain. lol
@Edric I felt the same! They're a strong stylistic choice and I understand the people who didn't like them (my partner and I disagreed vehemently on them) but personally I found them fitting to the tone of the show. Plus the acting was incredible.
The monologues were great, but some of them felt so long like it could have been shortened a bit. Erin’s was fine but Riley’s explanation of death kinda dragged. Like I get it, your body shuts down and you die 😂
My goodness, the comments! Yes! Yes! Yes! ALL of these observations and more are so so good! I absolutely BAWLED my eyes out at the ending. It was gut wrenching, sad, but so beautiful all at once. This series was a mirror to every religious person, everyone raised in the church, everyone questioning their beliefs, everyone who's been hurt by religious people, yet still has a love for God and/or a strong affinity for some people still in the religious community. It tackles all of that while remaining true and respectful to people's beliefs, not just a caricature. Well done, Mike Flanagan! Well done!
Same - watched in one day! At first I thought "oh no, not another vampire story" but the way they intertwined with religion and spirituality was an interesting take. Having people revert back to their "best" selves was interesting since Bev didn't really change - that makes her best self who she already was in the present? Scary.
I was honestly shocked when Riley takes Erin out on the boat, like I was shocked in that bit when he walked in on them making the communion wine but this episode kind of stunned me because I just expected things to go a certain way and then they didn't lol. But kudos to Mike Flanagan, he did such a good job (as did all the actors)
The irony in that was that Riley (the only Atheist on the island) didn't give in to the temptation to feed after being fully turned. He figured out how to control it just enough just like he figure out how to control his alcohol addiction.
@@crazyalcayne So true. And after his alcohol addiction causing someone's death, this was his redemption. I felt really bad for Erin and her pregnancy, the Sheriff and his son, Sarah and Mildred, Joe and his dog :(
I 100% agree. I loved Hill House, thought Bly Manor didn’t measure up, but Midnight Manor exceeded my expectations. I want to watch this show again and again
This was so intriguing and beautifully done. I’m a Christian but found this to touch on these topics expertly and really make one think. The vampire “Angel” was as strangely beautiful as he was horrifying. It’s such a cool and interesting concept. They kinda left it open for a possible 2nd series but it’s great as a stand alone too!
This was a really well-done synopsis for a series that tackles so many deep questions. I enjoyed the long scenes at the AA meetings, when characters explored religious questions that have been asked for centuries. I appreciated that the priest was earnestly answering the theological questions with considered responses. For that, I would like to see this get an Emmy nom for writing. It's definitely a slow-burn, and I was tempted to abandon it by the middle of Episode Two, but the "talkiness" of it drew me in, and, I didn't miss the lack of physical action so much, because I was being drawn into the lives of the people on this island.
This is why a limited series is the perfect storytelling format and closer to novels. Characters are fully fleshed out. Character motivations are thoroughly explored. Subplots are developed and provide the foundation for the main plot. The story is given time to build so the climax and conclusion is powerful and satisfying. This is why a hack like J.J. Abrams and his post modern “mystery box” theory of storytelling fails every time.
I was thinking the same I was like omg what if she’s going to have a baby and they bev was going to try to convince them all that her baby is the anti christ
My friend pointed something out that's really interesting about Erin's lost baby. In the bible the virgin Mary got impreganted by the holy spirit when an angel visited her. But with Erin, when an angel visited her (taking in the "angel's" blood during communion), she lost her baby. Which is a sign that it is not an act of God but of evil.
@@rendzeedee oh shit this makes so much sense! Especially how it parallels the Visitation. And for all we know, before Erin "lost" the baby, she heard a loud *thud* on her roof. That signified the "angel" who was patrolling the night skies of Crockett Island looking for the next body to feast on. Dude this gave me chills, ur friend's eye is keen af! 👏
@@rendzeedee In my opinion the entire show is a debunk of religion, Im not trying to be a reddit atheist ab it but everything in the Bible is up to interpretation. The thing is whose to say that the zombie/blood sacrifice shit it the Bible is "holy" after all it was created by pagan tribal priests, its been twisted and been used to justify many millions of deaths.
When Leeza lost feelings to her legs, I took that to mean the demon died. Aside - the end scene of ep 5 reminds me so much of the end scene of Saint Maud, but longer and more definitive.
Mike Flanagan’s work is just something else, the way he writes beautifully but also really shows the story and lets us interpret it works so well! seeing old cast members and his wife in a new story again was a great bonus too 🥺
Mike Flanagan's emotionally focused horror is always potent. I wasn't brought to tears by Midnight Mass, and I was mostly frustrated with the characters who I found unlikeable. This isn't exactly a criticism, they are well written and beautifully acted. I just didn't connect with them. However, The Haunting of Hill House touched my heart in ways I can never explain because I lost an immediate family member to suicide and can empathize with every member of the family. In this way, I can see how Midnight Mass could really emotionally connect with someone who has faced similar challenges and traumas in life. Top shelf psychological horror!
You're not supposed to connect to a cult but you can atleast acknowledge and empathize with those born in isolation (the town). People desperate for a better life and less struggle. People today believe what they see and hear over the internet which is misguided. If I went broke trying to bring my daughter back to a normal life she was born with and the church magically fixed it, I too would be curious. Only Beverly was a televangelist without the TV and everyone else had their normal grievances.
I thought this had about as many likeable characters as Hill House did. And I'm so glad Flanagan cut this down to 7 episodes. Pacing of Hill House and Bly Manor was really rough at times.
I completely agree. This show was by all means a great edition to his work but Hill House managed to make me a lot more emotional. I suppose it has to do with the amount of time we got to spend with characters such as Nell and Luke. Everytime I watch Luke’s episode I can’t help but be emotional when he’s trying to pretend that the top hat man (his addiction) isn’t behind him. Overall I just felt like something was missing from midnight mass where I didn’t connect with any characters besides Riley, who seemed to get the most screen time.
@@stephendoctor6941 agreed. Maybe it was because we saw them as children, we felt more connected to them? I really loved the Sheriff and his relationship with his son and... That was about it. It gave me that Stephen King small-town vibe where everyone is ignorant and the true evil in the story
I don’t find vampire stories scary but still this was good because the real horror came from Beverly with her hypocrisy and bigotry. I can’t wait for the Haunting of Thornfield Hall!
Currier Bell was just a pen name. Her real name is Charlotte Brontë. Check out the novel Jane Ere. You will see why the Haunting Of Thornfield Hall could be Mike Flannigans best.
This show was so unexpectedly good. I thought I was clicking on a movie and was surprised to see it was a series, one that sucked me in for an entire day as well. There were several scenes that had me feeling all sorts of emotions, but none made me as sad as hearing Riley talk about what happens when he dies. I'm still thinking about this show all day. There certainly was A LOT to unpack. It just maybe that this is one of those shows you can watch over again and notice new things you might have missed before. Thanks for posting this video.
Midnight Mass is one of the best "Horror" series in years. It is intelligent, gripping, well made and got me crying, cheering and thinking. The mysticism and theology put forward creates a thought provoking show. Father Paul played by Hamish Linklater is one of the most charismatic actors i have witnessed in a long time. In fact the whole cast was magnificent. There were times when i felt turmoil in the tummy from the expectations of what was to come. Questions brought forward on life and religious imagery made this series one that stands out among thousands of bad horror and bad theological films. I agree with you that Leeza not feeling her legs as the last scene means that the angel/demon has in fact died. Lets hope so any way. Enjoyed your explainations and thoughts, thank you.
Loved this series. It was a familiar, yet uniquely presented, concept. I thought it was slow at times, but the pace was necessary for exposition and for mood. I loved how the Monsignor wasn’t evil, at least in the beginning. He was misguided, for sure, but his understanding of what had happened was because of his faith. If he had been the stereotypical “evil or possessed” priest, it would’ve been a much more shallow piece. I loved this show.
I LOVED this miniseries; blew off a lot of work today to binge all of the episodes. This video referenced my two favorite scenes in the series. I connected the dots about Riley and his dreams almost the second I realized he had been turned, so I knew the broad strokes of what was coming on the boat and why, but I was genuinely shocked at how affecting I found that scene where Riley died in a state of grace. Whether because he forgave himself or because his victim forgave him or god itself granted him peace, that was an extremely beautiful moment, followed immediately by the scene I didn't anticipate with Erin screaming in horror and grief right into the credits. Very powerful. And then there was her last soliloquy about life and the universe and how we are all the universe dreaming of life, which was one of the most amazing speeches about death that I've heard in a long time. I'm very grateful they will never make another Midnight Mass, and I frankly hope they don't making any more hauntings because each of these stories Mr. Flanagan is making are such incredible gems that use horror genre to explore the human condition in such unique ways. They shouldn't be cheapened by reproductions.
She had some things to say about how she wasn’t her memory. For me, though, the show was still about memory. It was about legacy. How we remember others, how they’d want to remembered, and how we want to be remembered. It was much more than what it appeared, much more than something about vampirism. Mike Flanagan’s films and shows are always quite deep.
Lol at “it’s so much deeper than you even think…” Pretty classic dumb guy thing to say. Like we all get know that it has layers- that’s why we watched the show and came to this video. 🤡
I think another major theme is that true divinity or grace lies in genuine love for others and for ourselves. It is only when we fail to love that we fail to act in a godly manner, as seen with Bev who was, ironically, the most godless character in the entire show.
“Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.” 2 Corinthians 11:14-15
@@360.Tapestry your just assuming.. never did he said he was righteous. Does quoting scripture makes one righteous? As taught in the Bible none is good but God and our righteousness is as filthy rags to him. True followers of Christ know this yet even though we aren't righteous we can be made righteous through Christ Jesus.
I was so moved by the speech at the end, I stayed up all night. What a magnificent series, I am in awe of it. Disgusting that the actor of Monsignor Pruitt didn’t win an Emmy!
It's amazing how flanagan could bring faith and religion issue into his works in a way that no one can't really offended. It's fair and in the end, i find my faith stronger than ever.
As an atheist, I personally loved Midnight Mass since it covered a few different religions (and lack of religion) and didn't treat any of them as particularly good or bad, the same with the believers. Riley wasn't anything like atheist stereotypes and was respectful to his Catholic family, the Muslim sheriff was a good man who just wanted to help, even if he highly disagreed with his son temporarily converting to Catholicism, and it does an excellent job at showing the good and bad sides of devout faith in general. All that and the very well done storytelling made it a really enjoyable watch for me.
The premise to Midnight Mass is similar to The Walking Dead: there are no zombies/vampires in that universe of the series, so nobody knows what they are, how they look etc.
Father Paul and Bev Keanne were so good, super possessed. The scene of that Vampire appearing in the Church as also good. I don't think they ever confirmed if the Vampire made it away from the sunrise, seeing that it was able to still fly. This has got to be one of the better horror series in a while.
@@Wednesdaywoe1975 Great point, but I kinda felt like Paul and Bev were the head master sort of these miracles and them burning meant the spells were undone. They showed others burning, but not the vampire, which got me thinking. More so, the vampire was heading ...... home!
I thought it was pretty good but not as good as hill house… after watching bly manor and then midnight mass… I’m starting to get concerned with how many monologues are in midnight mass… like every episode has like 4 long monologues
Joe's trailer was out in the sticks, and not in the main part of town. Sure, maybe they did burn it down, but they never showed it on fire like the rest of the town. The Angel could of definitely seek shelter there. Though, I hope they do not make this a series. It stands just fine as it is.
Every time I start a new series and finish it, I am overly filled with joy when I find out Think Story has an “Ending Explained” on it. This is how I like to end any film or series and will not feel complete if there isn’t one.
I loved your analysis!! There was so much you mentioned that I didn’t notice. I really resonated with the purpose aspect and the master hand bringing everyone back to the town. No one knows why we are truly here but I feel as if everything does have a reason, and it was interesting to think about the domino effect such as the series suggested.
I loved it. I grew up in the Southern Baptist faith, and though they and Catholicism are very different, his preaching reminded me of my upbringing. The parallels between vampires and the emphasis of blood in the Scriptures is eerie. Not because I believe in vampires, but quite the opposite. The thing that hit home most was Beverly Keane. There is always a zealot who can twist and manipulate a verse to fit their needs. Again, I loved it.
This was an AMAZING show! Very different from Hill House/Bly Manor but still just as good, if not better. The acting on this show was incredible from top to bottom. Hamish Linklater, who played Father Paul gave perhaps the best performance I have ever seen on a TV show. Hopefully the acting, writing, and directing on this show is given the recognition it deserved and not dismissed because it is "horror"
When Liza says “I can’t feel my legs” and smiles, I interpreted that as another strong theme in this show: mortality is good and beautiful. Living forever requires becoming a monster and dying, returning to dust, feeding new life, that’s beautiful. The finite time we get on earth with our loved ones is all the more precious because it ends. This show was a love story for our mortality.
For some reason, throughout the entire show i loved the preacher. I don’t know if it was his acting, his character or a mix of both. I’m glad his ending was more gentle and he could be with his lady.
Thank-you Think Story, for sharing your special thinking on each story, that in turn makes me think about the great story in more ways than I originally thought. Thank goodness for the unique stories creators share and for your thinking about them, both of which I am very thankful for, always. :)
My favorite scene is where Bev walks in on Paul after he killed Joe. She is totally cool with the situation even though Paul has obviously committed murder. He has blood all over his face, but she wants to get him cleaned up for service. I was laughing so hard. He shows her that he gets burned in the sun (showing that he is a literal blood-sucking vampire), but she doesn’t even skip a beat. That scene was perfect.
Kate Siegel, or “Erin Greene” in Midnight Mass, also starred in Hush. I recently watched that movie and the book that her deaf character is writing is called “Midnight Mass”.. Is this a coincidence or am I missing something here??
Mike Flanagan and Kate Siegel are husband and wife. They co-wrote the script to Hush (and some of the other projects they've done together), it was most likely a shout out or a hint that this show was a script they were working on.
It was on purpose! Mike Flanagan made Hush and Midnight Mass. It looks like he’s been planning MM for a long time now, so I guess he’s been adding references to it here and there in his projects (I **think** the book also appeared in Gerald’s Game, another movie by Flanagan).
Ditto. Binged it yesterday n was like dang. Raised catholic, non practicing nor believing at times but hearing the passages from the Bible and the "angel" stuff that went down I was shooketh. Like seriously dang. I think the monsignor was always adled by dementia how the frik did he not realize that was a frikkin vampire? And the stations of the cross turned vampiric resurrection story yikes I'm too shaken right now
I'm a Catholic as well and it's really funny that you mention that because biblically accurate angels are aren't just men with wings. They're actually quite disturbing. There's a reason in scripture that angels have to say "be not afraid". It's because they are terrifying to behold. There's one angel that is literally just wings and eyeballs. There's another that is an orb of light surrounded by rings. Pillar of walking flame. Stuff like that.
@@lykos2738 right and that’s where I understood the fear but I always see it as a fear of such holiness and because they are still intimidating. That thing was a straight demon though 😭😭I’m like whatchu doing?? *also a Catholic
I like how in e4 they tried to pull a ned stark on riley but i was glad he's back caus he's the main character he came back and then he's gone with the most terrible death, god that shook me
I love Oculus. I love Gerald's Game and Doctor Sleep. I love Hill House, Bly Manor, and the new "House of Usher" series. But...this one will always be my favorite Flanagan work. It's absolutely amazing.
There's so much to enjoy about this show. The acting, the biblical references, each characters story, each scenes, the unraveling of secrets, even down to the music. It was for me a sleeper cause I wasn't aware of it. Mike Flanagan best work so far. I do wonder your feelings on what if the creature had made it. Would you want a sequel? Personally I'm happy with how this turned out and I just feel a sequel would ruined such a masterpiece.
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11:51 You sent MJ to heaven? Wtf 🤣
Mike had a few cameos! He was on a porch in the background early on as well!
Bev is the scariest because she is the most realistic to a real-life villain because there are many like her. MANY.
Yup brainwashed cult followers
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there’s a Karen I work with who is a dead ringer for Bev…both in looks and personality.
@@bruh_hahaha no f'n way😂🤣🤣🤣🤣her character definitely stood out and she got on my damn nerves in the movie. The ending for her was 💯
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I thought one of the major themes in this show was the idea of a wolf in sheep clothing. In the final episode Paul even refers to them as wolves. Also the idea that religion can so easily be manipulated, Bev is constantly reciting bible verses and popular religious quotes to support whatever conclusion she believes to be right. In that way religion too can be seen as a wolf in sheep’s clothing if misinterpreted.
no yes!! like the fact that the moment paul gives bev a reason for her to not follow him, even though she’s been his most loyal companion, she starts spouting verses about how you shouldn’t trust priests and stuff
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Bev’s character disgusted me and, in my opinion, is a representation of a false believer that uses and twists scripture to support their own selfish, egocentric interpretation that best supports their views…cherry-picking scripture and taking verses out of context to suit their needs. True Christians shouldn’t behave this way, but unfortunately as sinners, many do still do this. That’s why it’s so important to read the best translation possible that even offers deeper understanding and context of certain words in the way they were supposed to be understood in its original meaning, context, and understanding. Excellent show…I was hooked till the very end!
@@tejasgingerbelle6583 that's the whole idea of that hoe. Best moment was hands down when she caught fire. I cheered
@@Born2Fight4PAIN I actually chuckled a little.
How ironic that in the end the holy rosy herself “BEV” was a coward. She could not face the end with dignity and faith. Everyone was singing or praying and she was digging a hole to escape the consequences of her choices. Classic !
She was portrayed that way because she thought her "indoctrination" would give her salvation. You could say, she was the most devout which is why she had difficulty accepting her outcome. The other people made peace. It's a very deep movie with a lot of parallels.
I loved that part
@@mogtrader8 I also got the feeling she saw herself spiritally above everyone - to be saved. I was half expecting her to survive at the end was so releaved when she met her end and realised she was just like the others but the difference they have came to peace and acceptance and died together - she was ostracised and died alone and never repented for what she did.
@@mogtrader8 She was a horrible person though. She killed that man's dog. :(
That's what made me cry and when there voices just stopped at exactly the same time was chilling. her death was too quick
she showed herself to be a coward earlier when she hid and did not want the last death. When judgement comes people will be trying to dig not to face it.
I love how Erin clips the wings of the 'angel' as a nod to the moment when she had to clip the wings of the doves because her mother said to. Doves are also a religious symbol
I didn't even catch that, what a great point! That makes me like the ending a lot more
I think the angel is an actual angel. We have no definitive proof what an "angel" looks like but with knowledge of the Bible, they can mirror a vampire. These are miracles, marking wrist and sacrificing self and blood to save others. That resembles Jesus and the miracles people believe in God hoping to have.
That bat just survives at the ending. 2 kids assume the bat couldn't survive if it flew like that. That makes me smile, because kids alway tell what they see, lacking of knowlege about everything, same with their life experience. So I think that big bat is still alive.
@@moxiemaxie3543 Jesus didnt feed on people
Lucifer was a angel that god took his wings abc casted him out of heaven. He’s a demon and she cut his wings
to the people who wonder why Riley killed himself:
he ultimately killed himself for a few reasons. in the show, Riley is most known for his guilt and his past alcoholism. He hadn't had a drink in years and his version of recovery was seeing his addiction as separate from himself so he could isolate it and control it. The guilt, on the other hand, was consuming him.
You can see, from the moment that Paul tells him the truth of being turned and when Riley nearly rips Bev's throat out (she would've deserved it 🤷🏻), he understands that he has to kill himself. Because to him, this is his addiction. Becoming a vampire where he would be unable to control his thirst would be his absolute worst nightmare, his personal hell. Losing control of himself was so frightening and repulsive that he would rather die. He also couldn't live with his guilt forever and he would have as a vampire. He would have lived forever consumed by his guilt and only watching it get worse as he was unable to control his thirst.
He saw a future where he would be in misery, where he has the very large potential to kill the people he loves, and decided that being dead was better than that. in a way, his suicide was holy.
Also so he could prove to Erin his story wasn't full of shit, which lead to her talking to Sarah, which lead to them beating the vampires
@waibaddahyou? he also explicitly told her NOT to do that which i found funny. "Erin, i know you're gonna want to save everyone which is why i put you on a boat so you can save yourself" and she went "no 💖"
Yes it was, His death was beautiful, sacrificing himself for the reasons you said above and the kid that he killed was waiting for him with out stretched arms his sacrifice redeemed himself even though that's not what he was thinking. Then snapping back to the hard reality of him burning in that boat I believe he had gone by then. it was such a beautiful shoot. In the background i could hear screaming I have never felt that of thing the screams of fear and realizing he was speaking the truth but the carried on right through the titles finished me. Brilliant just brilliant
@Adam Cinq-Mars Yes I saw understood it that way plus other levels that's why I cried for him she forgave him and because he sacrificed his life he was welcomed home. I also feel that everyone on the island realized the truth that it was not a resurrection by God even the priest realized his mistake they all asked for forgiveness I like to think that they made it home except Bev. She never asked for forgiveness. She died too quick but she never went home.She will have to come back.
That is so interesting.
For me it's the moment between Eddie and Annie. When they confirm that free will is still theirs and others are killing because they want to. That, and Hassan and Ali on the beach.
They gave into temptation which was their downfall.
Big yeps.
@@angelcitygirl wow. You’re so different
@@hayleenicole9326 I mean they aren't wrong. The most compelling scene was the pta meeting. It shower both the standing up for religious freedom and also the suffocating of the sherriffs point by mass Christians.
The son made me upset. Father usually knows best but not according to stubborn Ali. On the flip side dad (sheriff) didn't belive in the beginning either. Both meeting their fate⚰🪦🔫☀️🔥
The scene where Hassan prays for the last time with his son and falls down in his prayer and dies and his son place his hands over his dad's head comforting, while he burns away. Toke my breath away! It hit me Sooo hard!
Why did it take your breath away?
Yep. Hassan was a good ass dude. And watching them force that on his son while he was held down was terrible. Almost worse than the dog's fate.
Mine too😭
@@moxiemaxie3543 same with op, hassan's death took my breath away too. in islam, we called it "shaheed". the term can be applied to those who is killed while sacrificing their lives for God's cause. and to die as a shaheed is an honour. lots of muslims desire this title if they must die bcs of the great reward
@@wanghiskhan7345 omg that was so disturbing I felt that to the bone
as a muslim hassan's death is a holy one. he died in his prayer. i love this show's portrayal of muslims.
Wasn't sure what happened to him at first. Do you think he died of exhaustion/blood loss/and stress?
@@wanghiskhan7345 he got shot in the leg with high caliber gun. Blood lose maybe nerve damage.
@@wanghiskhan7345 blood poisoning?
@@zlee001 i re-watched the ending, yes he's in much worse shape than I remembered as the prayer scene starts
They displayed Christian’s horribly
Mike Flanagan and Robert Eggers are completely redefining the "horror" genre, in my opinion.
Mike says "yeah it's a vampire story, but in the meantime I'm gonna talk about coping with guilt, the consequences of fanaticism, trauma, the afterlife, and of course alcoholism."
The part that absolutely broke me to tears was when Leeza confronted Joe, and then after, how Joe spoke at the AA meeting. That stuff just really hit home to me.
I like how he didn't dismiss religion as the scourge that some zealots have made it, but as a warning of what can happen when you use it as a weapon against others. At least that's how I see it. I'm no longer Catholic, but I was definitely reciting some of the parts of the mass along with the character.
Ari Aster as well
As a Christian, I absolutely love the portrayal of Bev. She’s your typical “holier than thou” Bible thumper who thinks she’s better because she served the church and etc, and believe me there are plenty of people who are like that the even the Bible has warned us about. The lesson the show presents such as the dogma of religion, not just Christianity/Catholicism specifically, is inherently evil and wrong, and that the religious figure tied to a religion would never endorse the lengths Bev made.
Just goes to show that religion itself can easily be distorted and used for something sinister rather than to save people from themselves and damnation. Muslim, Buddhist, atheist or Christian, we’re all imperfect human beings who are just trying to be better people.
Not so sure “ everybody” is trying to be “a better person.”
It was a really well done series although I hate how Christianity is portrayed again but it makes sense since many of the western Christians behave like Bev.
@@mimi_j Not just western my friend anywhere else in the world!
I agree with everything you have said
This wasn't a show of portrayal. This was way beyond that. It was about having people reflect on their own beliefs (Roman Theology) and to question their own beliefs. This was deep and a masterpiece because we never saw anything question main stream Christianity, certainly not with this quiver. We've seen stigmata, exorcisms, and plenty of good vs evil, but we've never seen anything re-interpret the bible in such manner.
Riley’s end was the most beautiful and frightening things I’ve ever seen. The acting in this series was amazing.
It was beautiful but he was a coward which he admitted by telling Erin he isnt as strong as her. Cuz he couldve just told all that to her at her house and show proof with his hand exposed to the sun and then help them stop them. But nope
Nah, he did the best he could, prison hollowed him, he would've given in to the list and eaten folks. Only his parents were strong enough to join together to fight the urge
Indeed.
He is coward and selfish. He should have helped the people he loved first
@@fightnight14 he killed himself because he didn't want to hurt anybody + live that way. He's not a coward lol.
This show has a lot to unpack, for me personally. It's a sensitive topic but I think the show tackled religion quite well. It's especially interesting to me how the priest didn't feel any guilt for the death he caused, using faith to absolve himself. While Riley, refusing God, carries the burden himself right to the very end.
There'll never be peace as long religion keeps blinding people. Or dare I say, as long as there are religions
Priest is a human also.. which is sinful nature.. but he drink and false doctrine in the beginning in the movies that is actually harmful to his mind.. he tell sarah mom which he love, he did this because he love her when she sick and getting old.. and turn he was wrong
@@Born2Fight4PAIN lol that’s the most simpleton thought
They don’t do a good job of tackling religion at all not at all 😂😂 but as a Christian I enjoyed the twist on biblical doctrines if it were mythology. There are no vampires or angles that can give you blood to live on in the Bible those two things totally break from any Abrahamic religion so the rest can just be entertainment
@@Berryations They did. This was a master piece bringing up the topic of death, which is common grounds for all religion. In essence this filmed used subjective interpretation of the bible amd roman theology and turned it into horror. No where does the bible ever describe how angels are supposed to look like, other than the fact that humans were not to be "fearful" of them. This was much like the allegory of the cave. We associate angels with what we see in the chapel, in art, because its depicted that way, much like Jesus and Mary. This film is really deep, if you were really into that kind of stuff.
on behalf of all Muslims, thank you Mike Flanagan for not disrespecting or putting Islam down the way we are used to Hollywood doing it. I loved when Bev called Omar a terrorist as he literally saved the world lol. I am a huge fan of Mikes and cannot wait to see what he does next
Bev was the only one who seemed to dislike Hassan as Sheriff....the other townspeople did not seem to mind having a Muslim Sheriff...
@@dragonchr15 I think a lot of the townsfolk do harbor implicit resentment towards him, though. In the classroom scene when the Sherriff brought up mandatory bible issue and Bev lambasted him, nobody stood up for him and even the Scarboroughs seemed to look at him in disdain (except for Erin)
@@ohaiadit Right, it was an unspoken thing. These fishing towns are pretty damn red and um, "tribal."
@@berryseinfeld6772 tribal is not necessarily bad. Just inherently hostile to unfamiliarity .
hollywood disrespecting muslims?! where? its all about disrespecting christians
when the sheriff decided to leave with his son and the devil popped out in the church with his robe was some of the scariest stuff ive seen , especiall having him walk the isle and everyine being pressured to drink the poison. Really taught me in times we need to be brave to stand out from the crowd when evryone is doing wrong we need to be brave and do whats right.
I think my favorite dialogue from the series was at the end of episode 6:
Bev (To Erin): "You could shoot me right now. It would mean I'm only five minutes behind-"
*Erin shoots her*
Erin (to the group of survivors): "we have five minutes."
Lmao 😂😂
Yeah that made me smile.
She literally took that personally! 😂
That was a great comic relief
That was funny, but a smarter idea would've been to also light the bitch on fire.
Best moment of the series! Lol!
Mike Flanagan secured his spot on my list of favorite writer/directors. His ability to tell stories, especially horror, in a limited series format is unmatched. The Haunting of Hill House, The Haunting of Bly Manor, and Midnight Mass are some of the best installments to the horror genre I genuinely can’t wait to see what he does next
Literally!
He also written and directed a lot of great horror movies! Like Oculus, Hush, Before I Wake, Ouija: Origin of Evil, Gerald's Game and Doctor Sleep
I totally agree
@@sobrenombre13 I’ve actually seen all of those except for Before I Wake and I enjoyed them but his limited series are so much better in comparison and they give him the opportunity to show off his monologue writing ability and create a full, emotional, deep, multilayered horror story with really developed characters and tons of amazing details, each show exploring different themes and types of relationships (like how Hill House is about a family that’s grown apart as they got older, whereas Bly Manor is about a family being created between characters that aren’t related)
I agree! Loved this movie and the preacher (acting) along with the other characters was 🎯.
This show was so great. The moment at the end when Erin combined her belief of the afterlife with Riley's made me cry so much. It was an absolutely beautiful interpretation of the inevitability a death but also the comfort of returning to where we all come from
How is it comforting to return to being nothing? You can never change the empty reality of a materialistic death view, no matter how you sugar coat it or decorate it with seemingly intelligent/scientific explanations. .
@@rq9622 some people aren't afraid of not existing anymore, we're here now and that's a miracle in itself.
@@plamondonworks6948 Exactly. Plus, I’ve always thought eternal life sounds awful. I definitely don’t want to be conscious forever and ever. A limited time of existence makes life all the more beautiful in my opinion.
We’re just a form of energy, cells, molecules, atoms that’s also an ingredients from the universe we are the universe itself. When we die we only live in someone’s memory until that someone also dies and then there’s no one will remember us.
@@plamondonworks6948 Simply stated. I wish more people could visualize it this way without fear and superstition.
Paul: **sees a pretty stereotypical looking demon**
Also Paul: ITS AN ANGEL
Right? I’m like what are you on sir 😂😂
he was extremely senile and exhausted by that point
I feel this but have you ever read a description for an angel. They’re horrifying.
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@waibaddahyou? I can see where your coming from
I like how they never showed Ali taking communion after his dad forbade him from doing so, so when Ali drinks the poison we weren’t sure whether he’d come back to life, but when he did it confirmed he’d disobeyed his father
lol obvious demon is standing behind you and you shout "i choose god" before drinking rat poison in an effort to die so you'll resurrect
@@360.Tapestry I honestly think they should have made the "Angel" seem a little more "Angel like" but still scary, instead of literal freaking Nosferatu with bat wings.
@@tsdobbi no fr
good catch, I didn't realize that.
@@tsdobbi Maybe because it's not an angel...
I like the abrupt silence when they were singing . Its mirrors how abrupt facing death can be. Its the same tactic infinity war did after they got snapped. The silence doesn't distract you from the horror and allows it to sink in. We're forced to hear our own thoughts
And that is why I sleep with my TV on, I never want to hear that silence. Scares the crap out of me.
I find the sheriff's and his kid's death so touching. Earlier the sheriff said his wife prayed all the way to the end of her live, through her entire illness she did not lose faith, thus him being so hurt that Ali wanted to attend the Catholic church and stopped praying with him( as well as the fact that he was doing that giving in on the brainwashing adoctrination that Bev was pushing in the school). They both prayed all the way to the end, the sheriff gave in on his wounds mid prayer and Ali simply watched the sun come out one last time. One besides the other. Together.
I'm a raging atheist, but i see the appeal of religion for so people. The feeling of something major, something being orchestrated by a higher power can be calming for some people despite not believing the entire lore thing. The sheriff himself said he was not particularly religious, he was Muslim because of his wife and kind of carried it with him after her death as a way of reminiscing her or maybe because he ended up growing into it. It made him feel some kind of way, it could either be spiritual or personal but he did not leave religion aside.
The simple act of praying, meditating, is a very internal and personal thing. Those two doing it together as the last thing they would ever do joins them in a bond attached to the late mother of the kid.
I was already crying at that point but it absolutely shattered me.
Beautifully said. I came in to this show expecting one thing (a typical "religious horror" kind of affair) but at the end of it, I was genuinely surprised by the beauty and poignancy of the show.
Also, no lie - when Rahul Kohli (the sheriff) slumped over, I was a blubbering mess.
The father died? It just two shots of im not mistaken. I mean he maybe survived.
That is absolutely what it's all about believe me when I say this u nailed even from the outside looking in👍💯
Atheist too.
Cried like a baby when the Muslim dad and son prayed at the end.
This was the best rendition of having good intentions(even though we find out the selfish reasons at the end) and using religion to attain it.
This same concept can be used with politics as well.
Bravo to filmmakers
@@sparrowhawke I thought the writing for the Muslim sheriff was great. His explanation against religion in school. Him trying to prove how American he was after 9/11 only to be suspected himself. Etc etc
Favorite parts of this series:
-Hamish Linklater’s performance as Father Paul. Absolutely mesmerizing.
-Bev clawing and digging into the sand trying to hide from her fate
-Erin’s monologue about what she thinks happened to her baby.
-the sudden silence at the end when everyone who was singing caught fire
-the silent credits at the end except for the sound of water lapping against the rowboat
-Joe Collier and Leeza’s scene where she forgives him
-Riley’s death and him saying that he loved Erin and did his best.
YES!!!
The credits when Erin is screaming after Riley dies… chilling.
When leeza forgave Joe I was bawling:')
@@Ananyaaaya I personally hated Leeza's speech "forgiving" Joe. She wasn't actually forgiving him ... she was tearing at his scars. I don't blame her ... she had worse scars. But I wasn't "touched" by it. I actually thought less of Leeza for it.
Linklater should have won a ton of awards for that performance. "Mesmerizing" is the perfect description. Amazing.
My favorite performance was from the actress who played Beverly Keane. She played the perfect religious zealot.
Absolutely. She didn't seem too cartoony at all and I was so relieved. She was very good at being exactly like SO many people ive met and exist out there
I hated how good she was
She deserves an Emmy.
Halfway through I thought Bev should win an award for this role.
I swear I know women just like her from my old church
The ending is an interesting mix of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion (Erin sacrifices herself; good triumphs over evil) plus Taoist (Erin's monologue about self being an illusion) plus Buddhist (true salvation is to die with peace and acceptance, which everyone on the island except Bev did).
Awesome point, it created and brought up a lot of thoughts about death and religion as a whole. The similarities are undoubtly across many religions.
I think it touches more on abrahamic religion. “One God” unites us all no matter what prophets you believe in.
@@MubQ10 It touches on Taoism too, and Buddhism
I think you forgot to mention Hinduism - ESPECIALLY for Erin's monologue about death at the end.
@@MubQ10 not just Abrahamovic...
I've not seen anyone else mention this but I noticed a lot of the characters said 'I did my best' and it hit me hard because, as adults, we're all thinking we're doing our best but sometimes it's either not good enough or it's just completely wrong. Also, at the end of it all, does it matter? We do our best and then return to dust. It's just a line that got me pondering.
No one in the show said Vampire once...or was smart enough to say.. Looks mate, that's a demonic creature not an angel 😂
But I will say one thing.. The dead woman (ghost - vision) from the car crash with the broken shards of glass embedded all over her face while the siren lights flickering on the pieces of glass.. Is probably one of the most beautiful - disturbing - freakiest things I've ever seen!
That image in the preview was the only reason I started watching it. Visually, it was great in many ways.
It definitely reminds me of shots in other Mike Flanagan shows like Haunting of Hill House/Bly Manor
I guess it's like in zombie movies how no one ever says zombie or knows what's going on. Suspension of disbelief kinda thing, maybe in this world they don't have media about vampires. 🤷♂️ Just my thought process at least
My answer is that there are no vampires in this reality... only aliens lol
I thought it was intentional to describe how easy a religious person can be manipulated. So, they know it is not an angel but because paul and bev say it’s an angel then they believe it. You know to show that people will believe in anything as long as they get something in return.
😭😭😭 Riley's death scene was so BEAUTIFUL! The young teen he killed was waiting with forgiveness at the end and omg I'm crying again!
Yes, that was a Wow moment. I saw Riley as a Coward during the movie but I found it interesting that he told his girlfriend on the boat that he wasn't as strong as her. In my opinion I think he wanted to go (die🔥☀️) because the teen👻 and pain.
Beverly FUCKING Kean is the real villain. Loved the series! Had some powerful scenes, great dialog\acting and well executed jump scares. I usually fine jump scares to be a really cheap overused tactic but Mike Flanagan executed them to perfection!
Bev was really good but for the priest was so good especially when giving speeches.
Erin's monologue at the end made me cry so hard.. as an agnostic I struggle with the religious subjects Mike tackles in Midnight Mass.. I found her monologue just amazing and eye opening
Same it was such an amazing moment in the show
Same i dont even know why i cried my eyes just started tearing up without me realizing it
I saw someone else comment about the mix of different religions in the show, they also mentioned taoism as Erin's monologue.. So I'd definitely check that out it I were you!!
@@TheFreekje I'll definitely check into it, thanks 🌻
If only it hadn’t been the twentieth monologue in the series.
Easily one of the best shows I've ever seen, the ending is haunting and beautiful.
i also absolutely love this show!!!
Mons Pruitt: "purple skin, claws and bat wings...yep, that's an angel for sure"
From a biblical standpoint I can understand how he first thought it was an angel. Angels aren’t supposed to look like humans. They are scary creatures with wings. But from a non biblical standpoint that thing is clearly a vampire lol
@@dariantillman7050 i guess because I’m not religious or was raised in such environment, the whole vampire is an angel is baffling to me ( it stressed me out lmao). But given Bev’s explanations with the buble passages I can see that from such a zealot pov that could be a thing.
@@Didi_Online I feel you. Considering most of the people on the island were so blinded by religion that they automatically assumed that vampire was an angel lol. If you google Seraphs, Cherubs, and Ophanims you can see how a lot of the angles are different from one another. But none of the angles in the Bible drink blood or combust in sun so yeah it was pretty obvious from our standpoint that it was a vampire lol
@@dariantillman7050 Agreed. It wasn't friendly and it freaked me out when it appeared at the door! Well executed. This show was done really well, especially utilizing Roman Theology.
@@dariantillman7050 yep, and the fact that no one in the island, not even Paul or Bev or the rest of the apostols said "hey, that's a demon and we turning into bloody vampires", really bothers me...
😭😭😭I cried for the whole last episode, especially when Erin gave her final thought about life and that she only sees the truth about it only when she's about to die😔😔
I think about the final line: ‘I can’t feel my legs.’
The doctor was talking about EPP and other possible contagions. She mentioned that our bodies would eventually heal itself or ‘clean’ those infected blood cells to go back to normal. Maybe since she had not taken “communion” the Angel blood wore off?
Also, in some of the older vampire movies if you killed the ‘master’ then everyone goes back to normal.
Could this be right??
I took it to mean that the 'Angel' had died in the sunlight trying to cross the Ocean. Like you said, in classic vampire tales when the OG vampire (or werewolf) is killed everyone goes bak to normal
But they never address that vampires even exist in this world, never mind the “rules” for them.
I think it was just part of Flanagan’s idea about how people twist and justify horrible things with their faith, or use it as an excuse for not facing the results of uncomfortable life decisions.
He’s hiding the creature, bringing him from exile to a new flock. It reminded me of how the Catholic Church hid and defended war criminals, some very disgusting Popes, individuals wanting power, priests and others in the hierarchy abusing children, as well as having affairs with underage teens and/or adults married or single, then hiding them, as well as often moving them and placing these “wolves” among a new flock who are given no knowledge of the person’s background. Just as he pretends to be the replacement, instead of the man they’ve all known for years. He then preys upon a man who trusted him, of which he feels no guilt for, as he justifies the predatory behavior via his religious delusions.
It also shows how easily people can be fooled into believing a monster is an Angel.
I mean it was a Catholic Church, but a comparison with a Reagan, Nixon, Trump, etc. and evangelicals could be made, though I don’t know Flanagan’s politics or if he’s explained any of the themes so far.
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I don’t think we can rely on that vampire myth, because vampires don’t seem to exist within the world of the movie.
No one even mentions any other supernatural creatures.
Not one person says it could be a demon.
The sheriff would’ve been likely to mention the Djinn, for instance.
Not just no vampire talk, but no other type of monster is spoken of either.
I don’t think it matters whether the “Angel” was destroyed or not, which is one reason we don’t see it.
The girl only missed communion that one time. It’s just as plausible that missing one communion was the reason, yet both are logical conclusions that work for the story.
wasnt she just joking?
Vamps defo exist here, but the island is full of shut-ins clamoring to believe in something way hard. So hard. Bigly hard.
Riley’s monologue (and Erin’s final one) about death really hit home for me as an atheist. They perfectly described how I feel about what happens when we die, but I’ve never been able to put it that eloquently. You don’t need a god or religion to see our existence as beautiful or purposeful.
Yooo... me too... it resonated with me as an atheist..
It's good because an athiest or a religious person can see it like that
Beautifully said
Have you tried dying. How do you know there's nothing?
Yes soo much, I'm a atheist also and I cried during those monologues. It's exactly what I think that happens with us after we die
I thought the show was a metaphor for addiction. Riley was an alcoholic and killed a girl in an accident, and she (his guilty conscience) always follows him and is a constant reminder of his past. When Pruitt converts him, he feels that same “thirst” he had when he was an alcoholic and that’s why he was so against this whole vampire cult thing and eventually sacrificed himself for the safety of others. At the end when some of the towns people claimed to be unable to stop themselves from killing their family or friends, that’s their addiction taking hold of them. While others, like Ali and Riley’s parents, abstained from killing because they knew it was wrong and that they didn’t need to kill (even though they still feel that painful thirst). At the beginning they all looked down at Riley for killing that girl in a drunk driving incident, but at the end they all felt that same aching feeling of their addiction.
I know the internet has taught ppl everything is tunnel vision black and white but media isn't forced into a box. You can have multiple metaphors, themes and lessons. The show had faith and forgiveness as its back bone. You don't have to force the show nor yourself into a box of tunnel vision ❤
@@moxiemaxie3543 I wasn’t saying that was how the whole show was meant to be interpreted, you’re right not everything has a single universal meaning. My comment was just one of the metaphors I caught on to. I was just surprised that I haven’t seen anyone else make that connection.
The vampires in Vampire Diaries describe the blood lust as an addiction. Vampires are a good analogy for it, I think.
@@arikawalton9922 I like the way u interpreted it. We are all subjective in what catches our attention first. I personally thought that Riley killed himself because he couldn't, as an atheist, accept how supernatural things were happening and that their nature was evil. I think one of the best lessons u can learn from this is, as u said, how destructive addictions can be, especially nowadays with everything being so accessible.
@@rq9622 I think Riley sacrificed himself so Erin would believe what was going on & possibly stop it, thereby giving his life meaning and purpose.
i cracked up at pastor paul changing his mind after he killed everybody. lmao
lol yea what a sudden changed
@@crownyyJ it's called an epiphany
Had the depth of a guy checking to see which breaker in the the electrical box controls the living room- "No, that wasn't it". A truly false moment from a very good actor.
Yup, so dumb. They completely let the character off the hook. Such bad writing, in that last episode.
@@stevenbatke4167 the writing was great. You just can’t comprehend stories not going the way you want them to? The series was fantastic
The convo between Erin and Riley at the end made me start bawling on my couch
Midnight mass requires a patient listening and the watcher will be rewarded with a show that is both entertaining and enlightening.
Truth! It's an incredible, incredible show
I have a personal theory : the death of the priest Pruitt in his office.
Some say it was due to an overconcentration of the demon's blood in his body. But he died spitting a bloody foam, just like the dog that was poisonned. So I think it was Bev who poisoned him.
Episode 3 she saw the picture of him younger and seemed to realize who he is. Later, we see her putting a box of poison back in the closet, without knowing what she did with it. We also see her filling the priest's fridge with food she prepared. I think she wanted to test the miracle she understood of the priest being the Chosen One.
I thought the same thing when I saw that. Clearly, she decided to poison him but I don't get why. When she was at his house later, it seemed like Paul.was closer with her than a lot of other people, maybe because she works so much in he church. Maybe he had already told her who he really was and about the "angel" and she decided to test out a theory.
@@carter358 I think you are right. Makes total sense.Why would they even bother to put the scenes with Bev and the poison and her staring at the picture if it didn’t mean anything.
That makes sense logically except it doesn’t feel correct to the portrayal of her character. They even suggested subtlety that Bev was a little bit in love with Father Paul. The pain she expressed when he turned against her at the end, and the level of nastiness she threw at him, showed how emotionally invested she was in him. Would she take that risk by killing him without knowing he would resurrect? Given that she doesn’t really trust god’s plan, hence the desperately digging into the ground knowing god won’t save her, I don’t think she really had faith to begin with.
Really liked how this show both deconstructed and reinforced religion in general. It’s a beautiful critique of our own faith and an apt caution to the dangers of over zealotry and religious pride.
100% how I see it too. I felt like those who have faith were still respected while it explored the trappings of religion and the judgment of others.
It was pretty obvious what was going to happen in regards to certain people de-aging, just based on the glaringly obvious aging makeup on the elder Pruitt and some of the other residents. Other than that, this series was damn near perfect, for me. Really enjoyed it.
Also, props for getting through that medocal pronunciation. That one is a mouthful!
Right? that was my only (well kind of only) critique. Why couldn’t they have just had multiple actors for each character? The makeup wasn’t good enough and the young actors didn’t have the elderly body language down.
So much this. My only critique. I was mystified why the “old” people had baby powder in their hair and why the docs mom seemed so weird: Cuz they were younger actors in bad makeup.
Yeah those effects were terrible. That and the first half of the first episode was really clunky and had a lot of awkward exposition dialog. But it ironed itself out
It was hilariously obvious that Mildred was a young actress in heavy makeup! 🤣
@@tinar8828 Using different actors would've been weird I think. The obvious solution would be the use CGI but that costs money and I have the impression that the blew most of their VFX budget on the monster alone.
This whole series just showed the power of indoctrination. people can be swayed into believing just about anything.. now this show had a 10 foot tall vampire performing miracles but even without if you look at the personal stories you see it wasn't simply the magical vampire blood that swayed them it was the promise of purpose, redemption, After-life.. all these people were seeking something and the 10 foot tall vampire was selling a cure.
people will say this is none-sense no one would think a vampire was an angel but think about it if you were there and watched a little girl bound to a wheel-chair stand up and walk.. would you believe it was the work of a God or the devil.
Excellent points! That is the power of persuassion.
Yes, the show is also about religious blindness and the need to believe that there is something better of a useless and sad life. This blindness and desperate need make people trade God for Evil, Angels for Demons.
In general, sadly, it happens most of the time.
Glad to see others seeing this as well. This was a master piece and I hope it brings forth more films with legit, roman theologies as the underline.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions
And something I noticed at the very end - this Vampire has no fear of entering Holy places or Crosses - either it wasn't a vampire or from some pre christian time so the religion has no effect on it? Great series.
So many have complained about the many monologues, but I find them really well done and pretty insightful, and possibly containing some important “life lessons”. Definitely not boring to me at all.
Because many people now-a-days cannot cope with thought provoking dialogue as they are fed on exposision and pointless jump scares and have to be fed everything to them for them to understand instead of using thie brain. lol
@Edric I felt the same! They're a strong stylistic choice and I understand the people who didn't like them (my partner and I disagreed vehemently on them) but personally I found them fitting to the tone of the show. Plus the acting was incredible.
I loved the monologues! They were so well written and well acted, I would not trade any of them for a big flashy CGI action scene.
It was a stylized literary choice. People are dumb.
The monologues were great, but some of them felt so long like it could have been shortened a bit. Erin’s was fine but Riley’s explanation of death kinda dragged. Like I get it, your body shuts down and you die 😂
My goodness, the comments! Yes! Yes! Yes! ALL of these observations and more are so so good! I absolutely BAWLED my eyes out at the ending. It was gut wrenching, sad, but so beautiful all at once. This series was a mirror to every religious person, everyone raised in the church, everyone questioning their beliefs, everyone who's been hurt by religious people, yet still has a love for God and/or a strong affinity for some people still in the religious community. It tackles all of that while remaining true and respectful to people's beliefs, not just a caricature. Well done, Mike Flanagan! Well done!
Same - watched in one day! At first I thought "oh no, not another vampire story" but the way they intertwined with religion and spirituality was an interesting take. Having people revert back to their "best" selves was interesting since Bev didn't really change - that makes her best self who she already was in the present? Scary.
I cried a lot at the end of Hill House and Bly Manor but damn I didn’t expect to cry even more… but I cried violently during the last episode
I was honestly shocked when Riley takes Erin out on the boat, like I was shocked in that bit when he walked in on them making the communion wine but this episode kind of stunned me because I just expected things to go a certain way and then they didn't lol. But kudos to Mike Flanagan, he did such a good job (as did all the actors)
The irony in that was that Riley (the only Atheist on the island) didn't give in to the temptation to feed after being fully turned. He figured out how to control it just enough just like he figure out how to control his alcohol addiction.
@@crazyalcayne So true. And after his alcohol addiction causing someone's death, this was his redemption. I felt really bad for Erin and her pregnancy, the Sheriff and his son, Sarah and Mildred, Joe and his dog :(
@@FieryFlamingFajitas Yeah, sad stuff
This show is a masterpiece and nobody can change my mind
I 100% agree. I loved Hill House, thought Bly Manor didn’t measure up, but Midnight Manor exceeded my expectations. I want to watch this show again and again
👏🏾Well done🎞🎥
It really is. Probably the most apt and beautiful ending I've ever seen.
Amen
This was so intriguing and beautifully done. I’m a Christian but found this to touch on these topics expertly and really make one think. The vampire “Angel” was as strangely beautiful as he was horrifying. It’s such a cool and interesting concept. They kinda left it open for a possible 2nd series but it’s great as a stand alone too!
This was a really well-done synopsis for a series that tackles so many deep questions. I enjoyed the long scenes at the AA meetings, when characters explored religious questions that have been asked for centuries. I appreciated that the priest was earnestly answering the theological questions with considered responses. For that, I would like to see this get an Emmy nom for writing. It's definitely a slow-burn, and I was tempted to abandon it by the middle of Episode Two, but the "talkiness" of it drew me in, and, I didn't miss the lack of physical action so much, because I was being drawn into the lives of the people on this island.
Wings, fangs, feeds on blood, burn up in the sunlight….yeah my first thought would have definitely been angel.
Small isolated community - not all are like that but many can be esp in more remote areas.
Biblical interpretations of Angels portray them as quite horrifying looking. Think of Lovecraftian horror.
This is why a limited series is the perfect storytelling format and closer to novels. Characters are fully fleshed out. Character motivations are thoroughly explored. Subplots are developed and provide the foundation for the main plot. The story is given time to build so the climax and conclusion is powerful and satisfying. This is why a hack like J.J. Abrams and his post modern “mystery box” theory of storytelling fails every time.
I’m just so glad they didn’t have her baby be the anti-Christ or Christ himself.
Same! Really was anticipating that they were going that cliche route but they switched it up and turned it into an even more amazing sub-plot.
I was thinking the same I was like omg what if she’s going to have a baby and they bev was going to try to convince them all that her baby is the anti christ
My friend pointed something out that's really interesting about Erin's lost baby. In the bible the virgin Mary got impreganted by the holy spirit when an angel visited her. But with Erin, when an angel visited her (taking in the "angel's" blood during communion), she lost her baby. Which is a sign that it is not an act of God but of evil.
@@rendzeedee oh shit this makes so much sense! Especially how it parallels the Visitation. And for all we know, before Erin "lost" the baby, she heard a loud *thud* on her roof. That signified the "angel" who was patrolling the night skies of Crockett Island looking for the next body to feast on.
Dude this gave me chills, ur friend's eye is keen af! 👏
@@rendzeedee In my opinion the entire show is a debunk of religion, Im not trying to be a reddit atheist ab it but everything in the Bible is up to interpretation. The thing is whose to say that the zombie/blood sacrifice shit it the Bible is "holy" after all it was created by pagan tribal priests, its been twisted and been used to justify many millions of deaths.
When Leeza lost feelings to her legs, I took that to mean the demon died. Aside - the end scene of ep 5 reminds me so much of the end scene of Saint Maud, but longer and more definitive.
Mike Flanagan’s work is just something else, the way he writes beautifully but also really shows the story and lets us interpret it works so well! seeing old cast members and his wife in a new story again was a great bonus too 🥺
Mike Flanagan's emotionally focused horror is always potent. I wasn't brought to tears by Midnight Mass, and I was mostly frustrated with the characters who I found unlikeable. This isn't exactly a criticism, they are well written and beautifully acted. I just didn't connect with them. However, The Haunting of Hill House touched my heart in ways I can never explain because I lost an immediate family member to suicide and can empathize with every member of the family. In this way, I can see how Midnight Mass could really emotionally connect with someone who has faced similar challenges and traumas in life. Top shelf psychological horror!
Its okay to be critical. This series wasnt really a great one.
You're not supposed to connect to a cult but you can atleast acknowledge and empathize with those born in isolation (the town). People desperate for a better life and less struggle. People today believe what they see and hear over the internet which is misguided. If I went broke trying to bring my daughter back to a normal life she was born with and the church magically fixed it, I too would be curious. Only Beverly was a televangelist without the TV and everyone else had their normal grievances.
I thought this had about as many likeable characters as Hill House did. And I'm so glad Flanagan cut this down to 7 episodes. Pacing of Hill House and Bly Manor was really rough at times.
I completely agree. This show was by all means a great edition to his work but Hill House managed to make me a lot more emotional. I suppose it has to do with the amount of time we got to spend with characters such as Nell and Luke. Everytime I watch Luke’s episode I can’t help but be emotional when he’s trying to pretend that the top hat man (his addiction) isn’t behind him. Overall I just felt like something was missing from midnight mass where I didn’t connect with any characters besides Riley, who seemed to get the most screen time.
@@stephendoctor6941 agreed. Maybe it was because we saw them as children, we felt more connected to them? I really loved the Sheriff and his relationship with his son and... That was about it. It gave me that Stephen King small-town vibe where everyone is ignorant and the true evil in the story
I don’t find vampire stories scary but still this was good because the real horror came from Beverly with her hypocrisy and bigotry. I can’t wait for the Haunting of Thornfield Hall!
I need to look that new one up!!
@@ButterCookie1984 Hainting of Thornfieild Hall? It’s not out yet. It’s the next in The Haunting series.
@@ButterCookie1984 The writer of the novel is based on is by Currer Bell
Currier Bell was just a pen name. Her real name is Charlotte Brontë. Check out the novel Jane Ere. You will see why the Haunting Of Thornfield Hall could be Mike Flannigans best.
Bev was a typical Hollywood character boring and done
Is it strange that I was was comforted by this series?
No, I think that was the intent.
Comfort how and why? That sentence has no context. Its a bad idea to find validation through the internet lol
This show was so unexpectedly good. I thought I was clicking on a movie and was surprised to see it was a series, one that sucked me in for an entire day as well. There were several scenes that had me feeling all sorts of emotions, but none made me as sad as hearing Riley talk about what happens when he dies. I'm still thinking about this show all day. There certainly was A LOT to unpack. It just maybe that this is one of those shows you can watch over again and notice new things you might have missed before. Thanks for posting this video.
Midnight Mass is one of the best "Horror" series in years. It is intelligent, gripping, well made and got me crying, cheering and thinking. The mysticism and theology put forward creates a thought provoking show. Father Paul played by Hamish Linklater is one of the most charismatic actors i have witnessed in a long time. In fact the whole cast was magnificent. There were times when i felt turmoil in the tummy from the expectations of what was to come. Questions brought forward on life and religious imagery made this series one that stands out among thousands of bad horror and bad theological films. I agree with you that Leeza not feeling her legs as the last scene means that the angel/demon has in fact died. Lets hope so any way. Enjoyed your explainations and thoughts, thank you.
I saw those solo cups and immediately thought of Jonestown. Charismatic preacher + solo cups + sociopathic supporters = Bad News
I thought the same thing when I saw them drink the poison
I definitely think the producers got inspiration from the Jonestown Massacre them all drinking the poison due to a charismatic leader
Same, I was like “watch out for the red kool-aid! 😳
Loved this series. It was a familiar, yet uniquely presented, concept. I thought it was slow at times, but the pace was necessary for exposition and for mood. I loved how the Monsignor wasn’t evil, at least in the beginning. He was misguided, for sure, but his understanding of what had happened was because of his faith. If he had been the stereotypical “evil or possessed” priest, it would’ve been a much more shallow piece. I loved this show.
I LOVED this miniseries; blew off a lot of work today to binge all of the episodes. This video referenced my two favorite scenes in the series. I connected the dots about Riley and his dreams almost the second I realized he had been turned, so I knew the broad strokes of what was coming on the boat and why, but I was genuinely shocked at how affecting I found that scene where Riley died in a state of grace. Whether because he forgave himself or because his victim forgave him or god itself granted him peace, that was an extremely beautiful moment, followed immediately by the scene I didn't anticipate with Erin screaming in horror and grief right into the credits. Very powerful. And then there was her last soliloquy about life and the universe and how we are all the universe dreaming of life, which was one of the most amazing speeches about death that I've heard in a long time. I'm very grateful they will never make another Midnight Mass, and I frankly hope they don't making any more hauntings because each of these stories Mr. Flanagan is making are such incredible gems that use horror genre to explore the human condition in such unique ways. They shouldn't be cheapened by reproductions.
I do not normally cry when watching movies or shows, but damn....When Erin was talking about where she thinks her baby is after death...Tears.
If Mike Flanagan makes a movie with Pixar, I'm gonna be crying for a week.
She had some things to say about how she wasn’t her memory. For me, though, the show was still about memory. It was about legacy. How we remember others, how they’d want to remembered, and how we want to be remembered. It was much more than what it appeared, much more than something about vampirism. Mike Flanagan’s films and shows are always quite deep.
Lol at “it’s so much deeper than you even think…” Pretty classic dumb guy thing to say. Like we all get know that it has layers- that’s why we watched the show and came to this video. 🤡
I love it when mewling quims mouth off, like they've got room to talk. Wit is not your strong suit, sweet cheeks. Go make a sandwich.
@@sanfordgray5699 how can I tell you’re involuntarily celibate 😅
@@tinar8828🤣😅😂 You're as pathetic at comebacks as you are at attempts at insults. What are you still doing here? Go make that sandwich, sweet cheeks.
I think another major theme is that true divinity or grace lies in genuine love for others and for ourselves. It is only when we fail to love that we fail to act in a godly manner, as seen with Bev who was, ironically, the most godless character in the entire show.
I absolutely loved this show. Erin, Paul/John, Hassan, Leeza, and Riley all had moments that will stay with me for a while.
SAME
Riley: "I have no money. No prospects..."
Charlotte from Pride & Prejudice: 👁👄👁
Also very much me😤
Looool !!
“Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.”
2 Corinthians 11:14-15
Based. 😎😎
satan > lucifer > luciferians > free masons > world domination and control > world economic forum...
@@oddballsok you forgot the psycho abrahamic god is the true don mafia, the manipulator of them.
yay! one more confusing quote to throw against people we don't like while thinking ourselves so righteous and just lmao
@@360.Tapestry your just assuming.. never did he said he was righteous. Does quoting scripture makes one righteous? As taught in the Bible none is good but God and our righteousness is as filthy rags to him. True followers of Christ know this yet even though we aren't righteous we can be made righteous through Christ Jesus.
I was so moved by the speech at the end, I stayed up all night. What a magnificent series, I am in awe of it. Disgusting that the actor of Monsignor Pruitt didn’t win an Emmy!
It's amazing how flanagan could bring faith and religion issue into his works in a way that no one can't really offended. It's fair and in the end, i find my faith stronger than ever.
As an atheist, I personally loved Midnight Mass since it covered a few different religions (and lack of religion) and didn't treat any of them as particularly good or bad, the same with the believers. Riley wasn't anything like atheist stereotypes and was respectful to his Catholic family, the Muslim sheriff was a good man who just wanted to help, even if he highly disagreed with his son temporarily converting to Catholicism, and it does an excellent job at showing the good and bad sides of devout faith in general. All that and the very well done storytelling made it a really enjoyable watch for me.
All I could think while watching the show is”has NO-ONE on this backwater island heard of a vampire
and van tire? say that again?
The premise to Midnight Mass is similar to The Walking Dead: there are no zombies/vampires in that universe of the series, so nobody knows what they are, how they look etc.
Father Paul and Bev Keanne were so good, super possessed. The scene of that Vampire appearing in the Church as also good. I don't think they ever confirmed if the Vampire made it away from the sunrise, seeing that it was able to still fly. This has got to be one of the better horror series in a while.
That Leeza's legs go numb is the sign the head vamp was dead. Remember, if the head vamp dies, it undoes the infection.
Show director confirmed that the Vampire is alive as he symbolises Religious fanaticism and you cannot kill fanaticism
@@Wednesdaywoe1975 Great point, but I kinda felt like Paul and Bev were the head master sort of these miracles and them burning meant the spells were undone. They showed others burning, but not the vampire, which got me thinking. More so, the vampire was heading ...... home!
I thought it was pretty good but not as good as hill house… after watching bly manor and then midnight mass… I’m starting to get concerned with how many monologues are in midnight mass… like every episode has like 4 long monologues
Joe's trailer was out in the sticks, and not in the main part of town. Sure, maybe they did burn it down, but they never showed it on fire like the rest of the town. The Angel could of definitely seek shelter there. Though, I hope they do not make this a series. It stands just fine as it is.
Every time I start a new series and finish it, I am overly filled with joy when I find out Think Story has an “Ending Explained” on it. This is how I like to end any film or series and will not feel complete if there isn’t one.
I loved your analysis!! There was so much you mentioned that I didn’t notice. I really resonated with the purpose aspect and the master hand bringing everyone back to the town. No one knows why we are truly here but I feel as if everything does have a reason, and it was interesting to think about the domino effect such as the series suggested.
I loved it. I grew up in the Southern Baptist faith, and though they and Catholicism are very different, his preaching reminded me of my upbringing. The parallels between vampires and the emphasis of blood in the Scriptures is eerie. Not because I believe in vampires, but quite the opposite. The thing that hit home most was Beverly Keane. There is always a zealot who can twist and manipulate a verse to fit their needs. Again, I loved it.
This was an AMAZING show! Very different from Hill House/Bly Manor but still just as good, if not better. The acting on this show was incredible from top to bottom. Hamish Linklater, who played Father Paul gave perhaps the best performance I have ever seen on a TV show. Hopefully the acting, writing, and directing on this show is given the recognition it deserved and not dismissed because it is "horror"
When Liza says “I can’t feel my legs” and smiles, I interpreted that as another strong theme in this show: mortality is good and beautiful. Living forever requires becoming a monster and dying, returning to dust, feeding new life, that’s beautiful. The finite time we get on earth with our loved ones is all the more precious because it ends. This show was a love story for our mortality.
Honestly watching bev burning was the most satisfying thing
Mike Flanagan is a genius. I marvel in his storytelling. I absolutely loved this show. It was sooo good!!!!
For some reason, throughout the entire show i loved the preacher. I don’t know if it was his acting, his character or a mix of both. I’m glad his ending was more gentle and he could be with his lady.
Thank-you Think Story, for sharing your special thinking on each story, that in turn makes me think about the great story in more ways than I originally thought. Thank goodness for the unique stories creators share and for your thinking about them, both of which I am very thankful for, always. :)
My favorite scene is where Bev walks in on Paul after he killed Joe. She is totally cool with the situation even though Paul has obviously committed murder. He has blood all over his face, but she wants to get him cleaned up for service. I was laughing so hard. He shows her that he gets burned in the sun (showing that he is a literal blood-sucking vampire), but she doesn’t even skip a beat. That scene was perfect.
Kate Siegel, or “Erin Greene” in Midnight Mass, also starred in Hush. I recently watched that movie and the book that her deaf character is writing is called “Midnight Mass”..
Is this a coincidence or am I missing something here??
Mike Flanagan and Kate Siegel are husband and wife. They co-wrote the script to Hush (and some of the other projects they've done together), it was most likely a shout out or a hint that this show was a script they were working on.
It was on purpose! Mike Flanagan made Hush and Midnight Mass. It looks like he’s been planning MM for a long time now, so I guess he’s been adding references to it here and there in his projects (I **think** the book also appeared in Gerald’s Game, another movie by Flanagan).
Linking vampirism with addiction was genius
I was speechless when I finished the series, it was so good and so tragically bittersweet.
Ditto. Binged it yesterday n was like dang. Raised catholic, non practicing nor believing at times but hearing the passages from the Bible and the "angel" stuff that went down I was shooketh. Like seriously dang. I think the monsignor was always adled by dementia how the frik did he not realize that was a frikkin vampire? And the stations of the cross turned vampiric resurrection story yikes I'm too shaken right now
I'm a Catholic as well and it's really funny that you mention that because biblically accurate angels are aren't just men with wings. They're actually quite disturbing. There's a reason in scripture that angels have to say "be not afraid". It's because they are terrifying to behold. There's one angel that is literally just wings and eyeballs. There's another that is an orb of light surrounded by rings. Pillar of walking flame. Stuff like that.
@@lykos2738 right and that’s where I understood the fear but I always see it as a fear of such holiness and because they are still intimidating. That thing was a straight demon though 😭😭I’m like whatchu doing?? *also a Catholic
I like how in e4 they tried to pull a ned stark on riley but i was glad he's back caus he's the main character he came back and then he's gone with the most terrible death, god that shook me
I was thinking the same thing about Riley!!!! I was like -- Ok ya'll just gonna Ned Stark him??
I'm just not the same after watching game of thrones, I literally dont trust any show anymore.
@@danielavazgo WORD!!
Also finished in one day!! The first 3 episodes were a bit slow for me but the build up was worth it; this show was amazing!!
A real unrated gem. Rewatched the whole thing again tonight. So much to unpack, and everything done with a lot of taste. A class act.
I love Oculus. I love Gerald's Game and Doctor Sleep. I love Hill House, Bly Manor, and the new "House of Usher" series. But...this one will always be my favorite Flanagan work. It's absolutely amazing.
The actress who played Bev was amazing. I haven’t hated a character so much since Professor Umbridge in Harry Potter 🤣
This was such a good series! That last episode end death scene was freaking epic!
There's so much to enjoy about this show. The acting, the biblical references, each characters story, each scenes, the unraveling of secrets, even down to the music. It was for me a sleeper cause I wasn't aware of it. Mike Flanagan best work so far.
I do wonder your feelings on what if the creature had made it. Would you want a sequel? Personally I'm happy with how this turned out and I just feel a sequel would ruined such a masterpiece.
Midnight Mass will forever be my favourite Flanagan project.
The way this content is so well produced with Chapters is so underrated. Thanks for considering good user experience.
I always appreciate when creators take the extra time and do chapters.
"A Devil in a Midnight Mass... he prayed behind stained glass..." God. I saw the title and thats the first thing I tought of. It is a good song tho