Trains in the Water - CP Trains Plow Through the Flooded Mississippi Waters! - October 2018
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- 10/13/2018 - It's high waters on the high iron!
Due to excessive heavy rains the past few weeks, the Mississippi River rose significantly, causing some pretty hefty flooding. Of course, this included the Davenport, Iowa riverfront, and along with it, the Canadian Pacific Davenport Sub. Over 1,000 feet of the mainline was completely submerged.
This didn't stop CP trains from powering through it.
At just more than a walking pace, 3 Canadian Pacific freight trains pushed through the floodwaters, creating an absolutely surreal sight to see. More info below the time-stamps*!
Please enjoy!
(0:03) CP 475 - Kansas City, MO to St. Paul, MN:
1. CP ES44AC #8868
2. CP ES44AC #8743
3. (R-DPU) CP AC44CW #8521
(9:34) CP 472 - Nahant, IA to Bensenville, IL
1. CP ES44AC #8727
2. CP AC44CW #8537
(19:35) CP 474 - St Paul, MN to Kansas City, MO
1. CP AC44C6M #8021
2. (R-DPU) CP ES44AC #8933
*The trains that came through today had to be issued clearance from a track foreman before entering the water. Typically, the foremen would check the depth of the water before each train and then issue clearance along with the special orders for crossing the water. I believe the rule is trains can't cross with head-end power if the water is deeper than 18 inches. As deep as it looks in this video, I guess it wasn't breaking that threshold. Each train was instructed to cross at no more than 3 mph. On top of that, after any engines were completely through and out of the water, they were to stop and Idle in Notch 4 for 10 minutes to heat and dry the traction motors which are AC electrically powered. As dangerous as this maneuver could look to the common eye, rest assured, it was very well coordinated as was done and safely as railroading gets!
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the only way the motors didnt burn out is because of that plow
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keep 'em coming!! nicely done!!
Freeze the water over and recreate the polar express
2:00 looks like its gonna be the river express😂😂😂😂
Lol
Yep, plowing through versus cautiously going through is enormous. My Dad was an engineer with Erie Lackawanna for 40 years and said during flood conditions, you creep the train through. Otherwise, he said the cars behind the engines can hydroplane and derail. Didn’t think with that much weight it could happen....didn’t ask because Dad knew his stuff...God bless him, he passed away 5 years ago
Your dad was correct, cars directly behind locomotives do not have their full weight imposed onto the rails because of drawbar/coupling tension when the locomotives are exerting power.
The awesome power of water. Don't underestimate it.
Who else want the train to go at top speed and see the wave it would create even though it will probably power off
Holy crap I didn’t even notice the likes
Idk chance of derailment? Idk much about trains
That'd be fun even though it'd probably derail.
papbob probably not, it’s a straight track with only a foot of water
Could go a little faster, maybe 25
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Sometimes trains are called "the ship on the ground", because they can transport so many materials at once.
What the hell!! This train goes on the water!!! This is truly "the ship on the ground"!!
These beautiful machines moved the world forward with such presence and character. It’s really special to see this. My hats off to the amazing camera crew who matched pace flawlessly too. Bravo!
Cars through flood: CRAP NO WAY IM GOING THROUGH THIS
Trains: eh it’s just a little bit of water
Spirited away anyone?
Nobody:
TH-cam algorithm: YOU WANNA SEE A TRAIN GO THROUGH SOME WATER?!?!?
yes i do actually lol
You clicked.
Brandon town yes
Brandon town Yes I do
Lol
It’s now a troat
Nah its a brain..
Nah it’s a Brian not a brain (yes I did just call it a Brian, don’t judge.)
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Car: I can sink
Boat: I can float on water
Train: amateurs
Car & Boat: ?
Train on water: AMATEURS
Crazy. Here in the UK, they stop the trains if there's 1mm of water on the tracks.
well in america we go all out. we're kinda crazy like that lol
We don’t let a little water stop us over here
@Chris Collins If you don't like the country then move out of the country.
@Chris Collins then stfu about the country
Aiden Home he is probably a 10 year old keyboard warrior
This was more of a slow crawl thru the flooded streets, rather than your stated plow through. With a Plow Through...I'm expecting water flying every where, this was more like Grandma is driving the train.
Funny
TRUE!!!
I agree!
It was MISLEADING! :/
Ya...underwhelming
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I have worked a few floods like this as a conductor.
Water can damage the traction motors in the locomotive trucks.....so sometimes we shoved a train through the flood to another set of locomotives on the other side.....locomotives stayed high and dry.
The irony is that Canadian Pacific (CP) used to have a division that owned ships.
Wall innb - in the Centennial Year for Canada (1967). Canadian Pacific started rolling out the “Multi-mark Logo” and all the primary coloured rolling stock. They also had a commercial that aired an year or so later that showed all their holdings - CP Rail, CP Ships, CP Transport, CP Air, CP Hotels. It was quite a stirring melody (or at least to me). I’ve tried to locate it on TH-cam but not been successful.
I live in Vancouver, I remember the orange CP Air jets flying in and out! I had no clue CP went as far south as the Mississippi River, very cool :)
Yep! Cp ships! Empress of Canada! Also CP air also named their planes empress of city name. Miss those days CP air was the best. They even had plans for sst travel for the 1990s and beyond!
Yup. RIP Empress of Ireland.
unklebobosaurus man they go all the way to Mexico
I have a test in 3 hours why am i watching this...
Canadian Pacific presents: "Train on the water boat on the track"
Thomas spoke to the other engines "I want to fish." But they all had the same answer, "Engines don't go fishing." "Silly stick in the muds" said Thomas.
Neat vid!😊
Thanks!
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am i the only one who finds trains and water oddly satisfying?
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I wonder how the electronic motors that drive the wheels don't become effected must be sealed off nicely
Just like an electric car, it's all sealed from the elements.
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Does 3 mph qualify as "plowing"?
No but the title qualifies as click bait.
Well sure, you don't really move too fast when you plow through snow or water. You take it slow and let the raw power of the engine move the object in the way rather than letting the momentum do it.
ask your parents as they get older their plowing speed drops!
Fermit The Krog well going fast will be better cuz what if the snow if thick and strong then you need speed but water you can go slow just not to fast cuz heck it may be heavy but to fast it could slip off the rails but what you say is kind of true and kind of not just what I think I don't want to make anyone mad just read don't say anything and it won't turn into a argument 😊
@@jasonodoniel6434 going fast makes sense sometimes with light snow and a non rotary snow plow, but if it's heavy and/or you have a rotary snow plow then it's highly suggested you move slow so you don't damage the blade/blades in the front. Odds are the reason the train is moving slow here isn't because it's trying to move the water, but rather becasue the engineer can't see the tracks or any damage and debris that may be on them.
22:23 And it just happens to stop with _this_ car right in front of the camera. That'll be a fun one for parents to explain.
this is so awesome, out of all the damn cars its exactly that one and it just stops perfectly
Gumfart. Easy as that. Say the bad guy who did that has sloppy handwriting, and was trying to spell GumFart.
"No honey, the word's 'comfort,' he's just a bad speller."
@@emailaccount7240 I'm seeing a weird image of what can happen when someone swallows bubblegum now...
Lol, how did I not notice that
I’m more concerned on why is there a Canadian pacific in America and not Canada
CP and CN Both have several lines in the US.
Davenport Subdivision.
26:38 Nice to know your breakfast cereal may have passed through one of those grain chutes...
Um... eww...
@@stevecraig3004 it doesnt only the grain that makes the cereal and that gets cleaned a ton at the factory
I guess it's okay as long as the waters not above the wheel bearings 😮😮
lets see a electric train do that without zapping everything lol
actually, the part of that loco that has large motors on it... is in 6-8" of water, easily.
Electric trains often has a cable system that transmit electricity through a pantograph ON TOP of a train
@@cutieandcookies211 yup, that feeds motors on the BOTTOM of the train.
@@Mrsnichols1965 these are diesel electrics . Both use traction motors . Only difference is where the power comes from .
@@danielwanner8708 congrats, you just said what I said.
So cars can't go down flood roads but trains can you mean water can't wash away tracks and wooden ties
i have to admit... i was watching the dogs play more than the train and had to watch a second time...
very courageous and smart on top of that im guess that this was 3.5 to 4 miles long??
*Train on the water boat on the tracks!*
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Oh yh lol
First time I have ever seen rail car wheel wakes.
Trains too, walk on water.
Not really
Walk????
Doesn't it strike anyone odd that older GE locomotives used to be called "U Boats"? This is trying to take that nickname a bit too serious!
Just the Universal Series, like the U30C and U50C to name a couple.
so can this be called a "AC motor" ?
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Lucky they didn't short out the traction motors. But then again the water might not have been a foot above the railhead.
its much harder to short out (ground) a AC traction motor--no commutator!!!!
The customers paying for that delivery
13:57 did you see the door and the water when the coupler slack jolted the train up a(n) MPH?
next load, any road :)
Meh it’ll be fine lol
lol
American Railfan yeah and I think I might have seen a person inside
Never seen a train go through water before. Interesting they even went through that mess.
OMG How on earth did the train driver know where to steer the train 🤔🤔😀
trains dont have or need steering wheels. the tracks guide them.
@@yeoldeseawitch Cool glad you told me that, I would of never of worked that out myself . Duh !
P&Wfan 2004 youre an idiot, clearly sarcasm. A toddler can figure that out without help
@@tdollars8052 yes at least somebody got the drift of what I was saying.
Little Squeaky Bean sadly one cant FIX stupid, only make it less stupid
wow that is a lot of water over the tracks, good thing i am not the engineer. I would find it hard not going fast through it. and making a big wave
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I have never seen anything like that. I used to be a locomotive mechanic and the manual always said under no circumstances should you operate a locomotive where the water touches the bottom of the traction motors. Looks like they got away with it but terrible idea.
Electric traction motors are cooled by air blown from blowers in the cabin through flexible ducts through the motors. That prevents water ingress.
The trouble comes if the locomotive is turned off. When the air stops blowing the water would get inside the motor.
That’s were a steam engine has an advantage the pistons sit higher than the traction motors
If standing water was on the tracks of GTA V. Train would be like... hahaha!!! Try me! Train
When filming a train, always remember to stand clear of its bow wave
I would like to have seen him drive into that at 60 MPH!
“What do you drive?”
“A RIVER locomotive”
“Don’t you mean a RAILROAD locomotive?”
“NOPE!”
... plz don’t that was cringe.
How do they know the tracks have not washed out?
They don't , thus the 2 miles per hour approach ,rock wood steal rail , work wet , tock may move in a current , also wet soil can go very soft , silt turns to soup , bright red Georgia clay turns to Jell-O .
Bill Bromley they test the track before and after each train goes through
Most railroad tracks are interlocked (wired) to convey track conditions with the signals. As long as the signal was clear (Assuming the signal for that block wasn't defunct from the flood) then the track conditions were fine. If a rail was washed out, or broken, it would've cause the circuit to be incomplete and the signal would drop to red. If the rails only got bent however and didn't actually break, that's a different story lol
On the last train they added a helper? Note the signal hut's (bungalows) are five feet above the tracks. They knew this is a flood area.
No no no, those were the over nite hotels for the guys out on fishing trips along the tracks.
not a helper . I believe it's a DPU
They call it DPU which mean it was crew less
Wow, did they plow thought. Spectacular. Shit, I negotiated deeper water on my tricycle when was 5 years old.
They kept commerce rolling. Great job. Also saw on a virtual rail fan comment line in the Midwest how trains were being diverted around the flooded areas.
Canadian Pacific: WTH WHY IS IT A FLOOD HERE?!?
Canadian Pacific #2: YEAH!
Conductor: Um...Heh heh😅*Runs*
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Admittedly, I know nothing about railway construction. Is there ever a threat of the railroad ties floating in high water? I’ve seen what high water can do to a fixed dock - lifting the dock, pilings and all.
Railroad ties are bound to the rails and can't really move freely unless they split at a very specific angle
Runnin' Eight I wasn’t sure if the ties could lift a section of rail if enough of them started to float. Thanks for the reply!
Yesterday, I learned the difference between a train and a boat...I wrote this song before that.
Train on the water, boat on a track
Train on the water, boat on a track
My lady took a train across the Atlantic
I hope it don't sink like the Titanic
I went to the station, caught a boat downtown
I hope it don't fall off the track and I drown
Train on the water, boat on a track
Train on the water, boat on a track
-Family Guy
Lots of metal groaning. Didn't know it was that loud.
Yeah, it's loud on ships also.
lol. Here in gemany, they would have stopped operation faster than you could say "stop".
Why? It seems trains do well going through water.
it is the same in the UK if water is over the top of the rail no train can past over as you cannot see the condition of the track.
If the water is flowing it doesn't even need to be above the railhead for ballast to errode away
You mean Halt!!
@@semiretired6033 probably. I´m no native speaker :)
I presume there are very specific guidelines for this... water must be below axle level, slow flowing, etc
@@Milepost93Productions and it seems that A.C. traction locomotives can bend those rules........a lot.
Ya I'm sure they dont want them roller bearings under water AKA WHEEL CHANGE...
Glad they didn't have anything happen. I would hate walking thru the water to see what's wrong
That’s 1 way to wash the belly of a locomotive
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4:30 its weird when you cant see the tracks. Imagine how it must have been for the engineer lmao
ukickmeikicku, yeah, how do they know which way to turn the steering wheel.
vsv nrg Trains don’t need steering wheels you dumb dumb they’re not cars
@@personpointingtwogunsatyou r/wooooosh
CP AC44C6M #8021 was brand new at that moment! gorgeus!
The thing I noticed is the last train, so clean and new
No sure that's too good for the traction motors.
And now remember to test your breaks
I remember a few years ago I was on Amtrak to New York. Georgia, south and North Carolina were under flood warnings. Train was delayed almost 24 hours because of the strict 30 mph speed limit. Is that mandated trains go that slow in flood warned counties?
.....were they all trained in doing this?...I'm a freight knot!.....KABOOS!!!!, sorry for that sneeze....
At least the wheels are clean!
Yep lol
Until they rust from the water that is
I love trains this was fun and soothing.
CP really knows how to make a splash!
Guess the engineer blows the horn to warn the guys out fishing in their boats ...on the tracks
Some Engineers are known to blow the Conductor too!!!
@@youraveragejoe2 : Ummm, Some conductors are female too you nitwit.
@@thevacuumtubejunky9774 r/woosh
LOL water on railway joke
i hat you!!!!!
Has no one noticed the incredible sounds in this??? The diesel chugging, the cars stretching and shrieking through the water. Just awesome!!!
First time hearing a train I take it
Here in the UK a tiny bit of rain would grind the network to a halt. We need to learn a thing or two from you.
Doesn't the UK have a 3rd electric rail on their railroads?
@@troykir in some areas, yes
Not true, it takes three leafs or two snow drops to stop UK trains!!
why would they need to idle the engines? If they were to speed up to normal track speed, the traction motors would heat up themselves and the wind caused by the speed of the train would allow for a faster drying of the motors. If the motors were not water resistant, they would short circuit as soon as they are submerged into the water. So either run through the water, and dont worry about it or dont?
Electric traction motors are cooled by air blown from blowers in the cabin through flexible ducts through the motors. That prevents water ingress if the water is no deeper than in the video.
at higher speed water splashes and you never know where it goes
Here in Houston during Harvey a up train did something similar and wasn’t so lucky the water washed the track away and the train was laying on its side
And that's probably why this trains slow to not end up on its side if tracks missing
Rail box, the rail car POOLING experts?????
Haha your pun is horrible
@@brandonconnelly6798 all of us are "wannabe comedians".
@@rearspeaker6364 can I be a failmedian? Lol
@@matthewwilson5019 anyone can!!
Lol perfect, that makes me happy hahahaha
Prime example of how the railroad never stops moving. Mad respect to them.
Im just gonna say what everyone else is thinking. It would be cooler if it was a steamie
How is it that traction motors don't short out if they get in deep enough water?
Because the electrical part of the locomotive is up next to the engine so the water doesn't actually come in full contact with the system that little bit of water isn't going to do any harm to the wheels.
@@josephbennett3482 - The electric traction motors are down in the trucks geared to the axles. The traction motors are cooled by air blown from blowers in the cabin through flexible ducts through the motors. That prevents water ingress if the water is no deeper than shown in the video.
@@algrayson8965 yes I know that but they operate through the electric generators on board, I know quite a lot about trains because I'm a big rail fan. Those types of locomotives run by diesel electric engines.
They did, every locomotive that did this had to get all of their traction motors replaced
@@josephbennett3482- The engine is diesel. It turns an electrical dynamo that supplies up to 1,000 volts (600 on antique diesel-electric locomotives) to the traction motors on the trucks.
Camera work. 4 thumbs up
how tf did i get here? i never watch train videos.
You probably looked up train stuff somewhere
Possible only with AC motors, with D.C. Motors on Conrail we were instructed if the water was over 2 inches above the rail don't run through it. D.C. Motors using armature brushes would ground out in waters this deep where as AC motors don't use carbon brushes so can operate safely through standing water you see here.
this must be a trade secret!!
In Ireland and the UK. Trains would have been cancelled until the water subsided
They even stop for leaves on the line
More rain tonight and tomorrow so the river now will crest at 19.5 ft. Flood stage is 15 feet.
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Click bait title....Title should have said,(Trains barely moving throught flood waters). Plowing means moving fast! Throwing a big wake.
“Plowing” does not always mean it’s going fast. A snowplow plows through the streets, but that doesn’t go very fast, does it?
Surprised they ran through that with the water being so high. Water and traction motors is no bueno
train motors are diesel engines as long as the water doesn't get into the air intake or fuel system its good.
James Irish actually they are diesel electrics. The diesel supplies the power to the generators or alternators and they send it to the traction motors which sit between the wheels. There’s a lot of electricity going to the traction motors and if water gets in there it’s lights out
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Wow. That thing was really plowing through the water. So exciting. In the meantime, paint is drying somewhere.
I guess it's OK as long as the waters not above the bearings 😊
For some reason this is satisfying to me
Yeah same
Yes, Indeed it's sort of just like a ship lol!
meh too
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How?
All ahead flank.. ere I mean notch 8!
Nice video!! I’m impressed at how this was executed
those Canadians are very serious and will go through water
Eh... not the first time I’ve seen an engine go threw water *cough* Percy *cough*
These engines need a paint job
Nor' rain, nor' sleet, nor' dark of night, (nor flood of river) shall keep the train from it's appointed deliveries . . . something like that . . .
Next Rapido Rivet Counters will be featuring trim vanes.
I've seen video of Indian ( country ) railways coming to a low spot with water covering the rails over a foot deep and they enter the water at near 30 mph with passenger trains mind you. So long as the D.C. Traction motors are closed up properly it won't harm the motors but if it did as soon as the motors dried out they would be fine.
On the old New Haven Railroad at New London, Ct. is was standard operating procedure every morning for the ground relay to trip out until you opened the bypass switch. An hour later you could close the bypass ground relay switch and after everything was warm and dry no more ground relays. We parked the locomotives 5 to 10 feet from the ocean and fog rolled in every night. Pain in the rear end.
I miss the old days oh yeah, power was Alco S1's to S4's Fairbanks Morse H16-44's and Alco RS-11's as well as Alco FA-1 and FA-2 and EMD GP-9's.
I miss the old days.
Cheers!
Gevo takes a bath (English)
Canadian pacific goes to the pool
An hour later, the train cannot move and Canadian pacific is now bankrupt
oof flood on a train tracks also cool video! My grandmother showed me this
"Plow's Through" yes 2-3 mph was way too Fast!!
How to be a jerk in real life #1: Put a Canadian Loco down south.
not trying to be rude.
Workers: Let us go to work slow train!
The trains: *We don't do that here*
Imagine shinkansen running at full speed through this.
Nothing because the water is to shallow the shinkansen would float right over it and is is a maglev
Or TGV 🤣🤣🤣