Scriabin Etude C# minor Op 2 no 1 - Analysis: HOPELESSLY ROMANTIC

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  • @SonataSecrets
    @SonataSecrets  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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  • @fredrickroll06
    @fredrickroll06 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I think this is the saddest piece ever written. It captures exactly how it feels to be fifteen years old and unhappily in love. I also tried to set this emotion to music at that age, but I was unable to reproduce that depth of feeling and was insufficiently versed in the technique of composition. Many years later, I found a poem by Gottfried Benn (1886-1956) with which I underlaid Scriabin's Etude; it might interest you and your viewers:
    Wie lange noch, dann fassen How much longer, then we shall grasp
    Wir weder Gram noch Joch - Neither grief nor yoke
    Du kannst mich doch nicht lassen, You cannot leave me,
    Du weißt es doch. This you know.
    Die Tage, die uns einten, The days that joined us,
    Ihr Immer und ihr Nie - Their always and their never -
    Die Nächte, die wir weinten - The nights through which we wept together -
    Vergißt du die? Can you forget them?
    Und ist es eine Wende - And even if this is a turning point -
    Vergiß auch nie: Never forget:
    Es gibt ein Sommerende There is an end to summer
    Und Nächte, die And nights that
    Uns kalt umfassen, Grasp us coldly
    Mit Gram und Joch - With grief and yoke -
    Die du verlassen - Those whom you abandoned
    Sie atmen noch. Are breathing still.

  • @Ivan_1791
    @Ivan_1791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Scriabin was such a genius.

  • @ariannak6102
    @ariannak6102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Thankyou for your user-friendly explanations. I'm only a beginner piano player and your explanations are very informative and make classical music more approachable. Thanks also for your great enthusiasm

  • @TimothyChiangPianist
    @TimothyChiangPianist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love this Etude! Such a genius work from a very young Scriabin. Thanks for this tutorial

  • @SallyGreenaway
    @SallyGreenaway 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I adore this piece and admire Scriabin's writing. I have orchestrated this piece and it is absolutely stunning with the colours and romantic expression of the orchestra. I haven't uploaded or released it yet but I hope to soon

  • @kristinajohansson5099
    @kristinajohansson5099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Underbar musik. Jag har alltid tyckt om klassisk musik…..men här lär jag mig ännu mer klassisk musik att älska. Stycken jag förmodligen inte skulle upptäckt annars.

  • @maryblendick830
    @maryblendick830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very helpful Henrik...I've been learning this during the Covid 19 shutdown and have so appreciated your tutorial especially since I haven't had a piano lesson with my teacher for six months now. I still have to practice it very slowly ..some tricky notes!!!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks Mary! Yeah, it's a lot of notes to keep track of at the same time in those chords... I find practicing hands separately is also always a good investment.

  • @anthonydecarvalho652
    @anthonydecarvalho652 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for your thoughts.

  • @gerarddesmidt1546
    @gerarddesmidt1546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I cannot thank you enough for handing these keys to really dive into this great piece of music. Thanks again.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Gerard, it's my pleasure.

  • @fionanogawa1730
    @fionanogawa1730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mix of technique and musical interpretation in your tutorials is so inspiring - and thank you for beautiful playing

  • @baurublue7489
    @baurublue7489 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating presentation, thank you! You unpacked the emotional content and form really well. Now I have to try and get to grips with the mechanical challenges of playing it! You make it look so easy!!

  • @rogierdailly1608
    @rogierdailly1608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    so much love in this piece!

  • @dreamer8474
    @dreamer8474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His piano concerto is awesome too❤

  • @AbnormaalTsi
    @AbnormaalTsi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Henrik, I will keep loving your videos, I hope you are well in these times. Thank you for your shared passion.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I'm so glad you find them valuable Tsi!
      I'm well, and I can keep doing this because it's already working from home for me :)

  • @afill471
    @afill471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This helped me understand the piece a lot more. Thank you so much for this informative and comprehensive analysis of the Etude

  • @feraste
    @feraste ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vidéo, I love you channel !

  • @przezswiat7135
    @przezswiat7135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this piece. It's short video, but the most important things were said very simple. Definitely good work! Thanks !

  • @camelot0208
    @camelot0208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful!!! Analysis! Thank you!!!

  • @Faziolis
    @Faziolis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great explanation! A joy following your play and your story! :) Much inspired to play this piece as well. Great sound of your piano by the way. Thank you :)

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, I'm so happy to hear that :)

  • @hamiamiam
    @hamiamiam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finally! That video! I have been looking for something like this for a long time!
    I like and subscribe

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Alchimist, welcome to the channel!

  • @adelaolivero9966
    @adelaolivero9966 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope one day I will be able to play it. It's an amazing piece. Loved your tutorial. Thank you! ❤

  • @agoodsetofbellows
    @agoodsetofbellows 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for your analysis of this piece! I miss these discussions because I'm relatively isolated and my piano students are not yet advanced enough to play Scriabin. I love how his music has a bit of Rachmaninoff as well as some elements that sound like Debussy. However, it's not quite as dissonant as Prokofiev, but on the same continuum.
    Do you think you could ever give a lecture about the evolution of harmony from one Russian composer to another? My undergrad thesis was about Mahler's 5th symphony and how romantic ideals were shattering in his music, in his life, and in Germany's understanding of itself--leaving us to listen to the shattered pieces lying side by side, rather than in a continuous harmonic progression going in a familiar direction. And here, with the Russian composers, I here a stretching of the harmony that one finds at the end of the Romantic period in Germany. However, other stuff is going on harmonically as well. I'd love if you could talk about this in one of your posts, which have been so helpful. Thank you for what you do! I'm still a nerd who has annotates my music scores with quotes from composers' biographies, but I feel less isolated now. Someone else understands the immediacy of this music.

    • @bt9124
      @bt9124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't feel isolated. You are so not alone in noticing all these things...

  • @TedHopp
    @TedHopp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first time I heard this piece was a performance by Vladimir Horowitz during an interview with Mike Wallace. I fell in love with it (the music, not the interview). After he finished playing, Horowitz turned to Wallace and commented, "Not bad for an old man, right?" Poor Mike Wallace, usually so good at demolishing his interview subjects, was properly awed and didn't quite know how to respond to that.

  • @Tonysmithmusic
    @Tonysmithmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i understand scriabin had really small hands, you wouldn’t think so by the pieces he composed. this is my favourite.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven't heard that actually, find it hard to believe with that piano writing...
      He did injure his right hand as a student though, and I can feel the influence of a really developed left hand in his piano music compared to others.

    • @Tonysmithmusic
      @Tonysmithmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sonata Secrets if you look at his wiki page it mentions his small hands. He could barely reach a 9th.

    • @j.thomas1420
      @j.thomas1420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tonysmithmusic well then I guess his opus 65 n°1 ninths study was either to prove some magic with his small hands or either a pure conceptual piece that he could actually barely play.

  • @juliewhite7920
    @juliewhite7920 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautifully played

  • @lorenzopone869
    @lorenzopone869 ปีที่แล้ว

    Working on this piece as part of a recital and, despite being a pro soloist and a pro composer as well, your analysis has been impressively useful for me.

  • @issastemler2144
    @issastemler2144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful as usual! The emojis have dying !! 🤣🤣

  • @Eddie71883
    @Eddie71883 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video! Congratulations!

  • @yulibura1005
    @yulibura1005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm about to learn this piece on my own (I've finished my 10 years of piano lesson so this is my first time learning a piece without my teachers guide) and I find this video very useful for me to understand the piece deeply. Thank you so much for this video. And thank you for pointing out that German 6th chord 😁

    • @nadeemlo
      @nadeemlo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Listen to Trifonov's or Ponti's interpretation. I didnt find ponti's interpretation anywhere on the Internet so i decided to upload it myself.

  • @Putsmeiser
    @Putsmeiser 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe the main theme for this etude comes from Julian Fontana's Op. 8 no. 5, take a listen!

  • @alejandrom.4680
    @alejandrom.4680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Glad to see that Scriabin was composing at my age! At least I'm not alone hahaha.

  • @TheMrlovegoodtimes
    @TheMrlovegoodtimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this piece!

  • @Canada4evr
    @Canada4evr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you SO much for your analysis. I want to play this piece but don't quite have the talent yet.

  • @WVDVDC
    @WVDVDC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered your channel. You provide absolute amazing content! Love your take on the pieces with an analysis ánd emotion/skill. Also, you're a great piano player. Subscribed :)

  • @geoaspide
    @geoaspide ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video. Actually I love your channel. 😉
    I am learning this piece but I do have really small hands. I am trying to divide notes between both hands in order to play it decently but it is not simple at all. I cannot do it in another way. So frustrating! 😞

  • @tomasrevillacortazar6722
    @tomasrevillacortazar6722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks a lot. It would be great if you made an analysis of the chords/chord progression as well- al least for the first section- when spelling the harmony of the piece.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah... I started doing it more in videos after this. In this Etude it's not at all straight forward what the harmonies are because of all the dissonance/suspensions, but the three first phrases are roughly i-iv, iv-V, and i-v-V(-i). (where they start and end up).

    • @tomasrevillacortazar6722
      @tomasrevillacortazar6722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SonataSecrets Thanks. Pretty straight forward then. He uses chord extensions cleverly and surprising voice leading. Always learning! Keep up the good work.

  • @handznet
    @handznet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Just trying to learn this piece and it is helpful 🙏👍🏻

  • @kingyerghin7025
    @kingyerghin7025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video. As a side note, you must have huge hands to reach those opening chords without rolling…

  • @fabiancancellara1
    @fabiancancellara1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video, Scriabin is my favorite composer but here you can clearly see how in being so young, he still did not develop his own style and is very similar to Chopin/Rachmaninoff, with some effectist dissonances.

  • @Chima4289
    @Chima4289 ปีที่แล้ว

    15 years old!!!!

  • @emilyhutjes
    @emilyhutjes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scriabin's work changed after his Sonate 4. He must have ran in to Mrs. Blavatsky then and she must have been a bit too much for Scriabin's lovingly searching soul. I love his work anyway. 🌷🌷🌷 (Holland)

  • @AnaPaula-np5rq
    @AnaPaula-np5rq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💘

  • @evgenijac.christiansen7115
    @evgenijac.christiansen7115 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Есть анализ гармонии, полифонии, динамики…
    ДА, это очень нужно и и важно- полностью согласна.
    Но где же , простите, сам Скрябин???
    Где????

  • @GONZOftw2k
    @GONZOftw2k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely fantastic video, thank you so much!
    Interpretation wise I have a question. I recently stumbled across two different Horowitz versions of this piece, one from a rehearsel in 1965 and one from the "The Last Romantic" Album. I found that he intentionally highlights at least parts of the left hand in some passages which creates an interesting "bounce" between the two hands.
    I was just wondering what you think about interpreting this part as he does? Does it blur the actual melody part or does it rather add a second?
    th-cam.com/video/NSsKJIzwapA/w-d-xo.html
    Thanks!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely, those lines are there in the left hand and can absolutely be highlighted as Horowitz does. Just room for different interpretations I think, how much and in what way to bring them out.

  • @ASvanRandwijck
    @ASvanRandwijck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To my opinion you might put a bit more feel into your play. Then it would really touch me

  • @farhadnawab7642
    @farhadnawab7642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great presentation. Why didn't you add a c sharp minor chord instead of just a c sharp at the very end. It would have been even cooler.( I hope the purists aren't listening)!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! This is how I prefer it :)

    • @fredrickroll06
      @fredrickroll06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonataSecrets I disagree with your low c-sharp. Scriabin knew what he was doing.