I have that same Toro 60v Recycler and I love it. Switched from a gas Toro Super Recycler and have gone all in on the Toro 60V system, some based on your videos. I have the Toro e21 snowblower as well as the 60v trimmer, blower, and power shovel. Thanks Ginja!
My son is all in on the Echo. Bought him a new blade and sharpened the old one and he is one happy dude! I’m not sold yet on the battery powered mowers. I’m still using my TimeMaster! Great video!
What size batteries were you using? You mentioned how many sq ft you could cut on a charge, but was that with a 6 Ahr battery? 8, 10, 4? Need that number to be able to corollate them.
EGO. Super quiet and I don’t smell like I work at a gasoline plant. I’m pretty sure that inhalation of gas fumes are bad for you. I have a friend that I talked into going EGO and his eye and nasal irritation went away. Don’t let people deter you from electric. If you run a business yes you can fuel faster. But if you have a normal sized lot it truly is a life changing experience if you already love to mow. I have 11,000 square feet to mow and my 12Ah battery has 20 to 40 percent leftover when I’m done. I bought a second battery for range anxiety for no reason. I have the EGO blower and the absolutely amazing auto-feeding string trimmer. If EGO makes an aerator and a dethatcher/scarifier it’s going to be disruptive in the lawn care market!
I was a Toro Honda powered gas user and then switched to EGO with all my yard tools...Toro didn't have electrics yet but I am very happy with all my EGO tools....not a big fan of the steel deck as they usually last 5 yrs before they start rotting away no matter how I clean them...my Toro was aluminum deck and is 8ys old now and I sold it to a friend....do NOT miss the gas problems though even after switching everything to premium gas...Ariens snowblower is my only gas tool now
I have a Honda 60v. It's my first mower and was a gift. The grass doesn't go in the bag. It's always a mess. It is supposed to mulch if the bag is not on and it doesn't. Even if I mow every 2 or 3 days I am going over it twice if I don't bag it. It can't handle the waxy leaves from these dead ash trees on the HOA side. I have to rake up everything before I mow. Last year there were days I couldn't deal with the leaves and had my old lawn guy come with his gas monster and clean up the yard. I want a better mower but neither of these look like the way to go. I'm going to measure the blade tomorrow : )
Honda gas powered mower here. I am not a fan of the all-electric mowers, and yes, I have used the electric mowers. I wonder if the dual blade is the cause of the low-cut issues on the ego??
I’ve had and sold both of these and settled in with a 58v Echo mower. My Toro cut so well but was horrible at bagging and I bag 90% of the time. My Ego didn’t cut well at all.
I am a big fan of gas mowers, as I have an HRC and mow every 4-5 days. When that one gives up the ghost, I'm sure battery options will be much improved as to what they are today. My local Mower Shop said the Toro battery unit is build the same as their gas version, just different engines. I would do Toro. Although Milwaukee seems to be the top dog in the Electric Mower battle. One thing that is odd to me, is why the battery mowers cost so much? Seems a gas mower is cheaper now. Maybe I am off, but that is what I've found. Thoughts?
Your comment is spot on. Batteries are expensive is the answer to why their expensive. I hope there are MUCH better options in the future. Right now their so-so at best.
@@patricksquires77 Ya, I don't see a reason to go battery on a mower over gas. Perhaps on trimmers and edgers? But I could argue both ways for those items too. My Dad, and Sister have Ego trimmers and blowers. The Ego Trimmer is the most uncomfortable piece of equipment I have ever used. For me it isn't ergonomic, and my hand cramps badly compared to my Shindaiwa, Echo, and Stihl trimmers. Battery blowers have a LONG way to go before I would consider those. The batteries on the Ego don't seem to hold up beyond the 3 year mark either. My sister loves her Ego stuff, compared to gas (she borrowed my Echo stuff for a couple of seasons) but has had to regularly replace the batteries and NEVER has enough juice to Edge, Trim, and use the blower for clean up on a single charge. But she didn't like starting gas machines, or pouring gas into their tanks. Each to their own I suppose?
Great thought process. The egos been great. Just wish the cut quality was a little bit better on the low end. I’ve heard the rumors with the m18 but haven’t had the pleasure of using it. It’s on the list
Hmmm no maintenance besides sharpening a blade and charging a battery vs gas station trip not much time as we have cars air filters oil mix if you stock up when you do go and never a tuneup needed or having to pull a freaking cord I don’t care who’s the best I went with ego after a client made me use his ego equipment and paid me more to do so this was 6 years ago before I got tired of property landscape maintenance after 33 years truly was like a breath of fresh air apparently the noise and fumes and shop visits is what I didn’t like about gas power but at the time had to make a living and couldn’t wait but those days are behind and I don’t mind one bit 👍👍😁 and in the long run I do believe it to be cheaper if your up on how to store and maintain your batteries properly
@@jonathanbuford1793 I am an engineer. I have built electric cars, I built a world record holding long distance competition electric car, I have owned electric cars. I love love love my Milwaukee battery yard tools BTW. I have calculated energy in Joules, Watts, BTUs weekly for 30 years. I know most of the benefits and cons for each commercially available battery type. There are MANY positives with battery equipment and some big negatives that are quite challenging as well. None of this has any affect mostly for the trash opinion of mine for electric mowers. I would love to have a great one - there is NO great battery mowers. The biggest downside to ‘THESE’ mower and almost every consumer electric mower - is their trash. Their junk - their batteries are junk - their controls are abysmal, tires, deck, handles, their trash, their power is worse yet. Every part of them is junk. Expensive too honestly but not really where my issue is.
Looking at the 2156sp for this season to upgrade from an LM2000 (2.5ah battery) so I appreciate this video. I tried a Toro Stripe and it was worse than the nearly 10 year old EGO and choked out sooner. What I hope the newer EGO can do is blaze through hybrid Bermuda at any HOC without me worrying if it's going to choke out and turn off. Do you reckon the 2156sp can handle just about anything? EGO claims 8.3lbs of torque which was their highest. Now they have a 10+lbs model coming out.
Ego twin blade munching set up vs Toro single blade high cut blade. You want a real test switch ego to single blade high cut. In my opinion I'm no expert just my observation. Love your channel it's very educational.
Hard to find. The single blade ego offers is there eco option. Has a small lift on the blade but cuts terribly 😆 I tried finding something as you mentioned and was unable to. Ultimately I agree it's a good idea when possible. It wasn't easy finding the blade I did for the Toro.
@@pestandlawnginja Yeah, I got Zoysia... it dont do that. I got some soil fussiness tho. Doesn't wanna release, so gonna hit it harder in spring. Working on getting rid of some goose grass or dallas grass right nwo though, ugggggh. =*(
Ariens needs a lawn mower ? There snow blowers are the best ever so much power !!! I hope they do electric and would outdo all these silly mowers sold all my underpowered toro junk
@@pestandlawnginjaI myself own an ego 21 " mower there are alot of good uses for a electric mower trimming regular mowing night time mowing as with the ego having lights on it , my go to is the honda very loud it micro mulches so does the ego , ego is not a wet grass mower honda is . I like both , purchased the honda with my military discount . both mowers are great cant compain
I went from a 30+yr old John Deere 14sb to the Ego LM2156SP. Gas is still superior. I don't get quite as good as a cut as you state but it sure beats the cost of gas.
I have the Toro battery along for gas super recycler and gas Honda. There's no comparison. Gas has no issues as where battery u have to always make excuses or explain why it didn't cut well as you did through out. Gas all day .
@@johnbiggins2105 yup I bought the first ego electric mower in 2017 before any electric mowers were in the market. I paid $450 with 2 batteries 5.0ah and after 7 years I absolutely had zero issues. I have half an acre and it takes me about 45 minutes to cut my front and backyard in 1 in half battery.
I own the ego 2156 and it is a HORRIBLE mower. It leaves mohawks and uneven cut. My lawn is carpet thick kbg in front and black beauty ultra in back. I would not recommend an ego for anyone with a nice lawn.
@ETekcustom Hard to answer for ‘just THESE’ when you bring up allot of unrelated. Honestly I think you jumped to conclusion on my views based on my crassy @// comment - I forgive you. SolarPUNK Steve says his setup IS an experiment - he has made no claim yet that it works - just that he wanted to try and work on it. Steve says this in his vids by the way. Regarding the solar trailer - Between the onboard battery and his trailer being benefitted by being in Florida sun - he has a equivalent of a few gallons of gas in raw power stored and generated on a sunny day. I don’t have anything negative to say - it is all of the best available consumer equipment and well wired and well done and EG4 is some of the best. I think he watches Will Prowse yt channel just my looking at his awesome setup. Stanley has yet to claim you can make as much money with an electric mower either I believe - (outside of upselling on green/noise level). I am an engineer. I have built electric cars, I built a world record holding long distance competition electric car, I have owned electric cars. I love love love my Milwaukee battery yard tools BTW. I have calculated energy in Joules, Watts, BTUs weekly for 30 years. I know most of the benefits and cons for each commercially available battery type. There are MANY positives with battery equipment and some big negatives that are quite challenging as well. None of this has any affect mostly for the trash opinion of mine for electric mowers. I would love to have a great one - there is NO great battery mowers. The biggest downside to ‘THESE’ mower and almost every consumer electric mower - is their trash. Their junk - their batteries are junk - their controls are abysmal, tires, deck, handles, their trash, their power is worse yet. Every part of them is junk. Expensive too honestly but not really where my issue is.
You're not very bright fomas. I just purchased a toro 60v stripe battery mower, I have a 3rd of an acre. It cuts solid and crisp. Do your homework and open minded
I have that same Toro 60v Recycler and I love it. Switched from a gas Toro Super Recycler and have gone all in on the Toro 60V system, some based on your videos. I have the Toro e21 snowblower as well as the 60v trimmer, blower, and power shovel. Thanks Ginja!
The snow blowers are my favorite. I prefer them over gas. 😌
I have owned a Toro gas for 23 years. I am trying to decide between the Ego and Toro battery systems.
Their website sucks...They have no parts for their lawnmower
Sup Ginja! you need to scoop a milwaukee, blows both of these mowers out of the water (the toro i know forsure)
right on! its on the list for sure! I've heard the rumors. Thanks for dropping a comment brother. appreciate it.
My son is all in on the Echo. Bought him a new blade and sharpened the old one and he is one happy dude! I’m not sold yet on the battery powered mowers. I’m still using my TimeMaster! Great video!
Right on!
I forgot to mention he has the snowblower as well. It works great! Throws snow 30 feet!
That's absolutely my favorite featurue also! Sometimes I'll pile my trimmer and blower on it to wheel it back to the garage one-handed.
💯
I own a tore electric 3 years ago working great with 2 60 volts baterrys not complaints so far 👍
Thanks for sharing!
I've got the Ego weed Wacker, 2-stage snow blower,and next Spring, I will own a new Ego lawnmower.
Right on!
What size batteries were you using? You mentioned how many sq ft you could cut on a charge, but was that with a 6 Ahr battery? 8, 10, 4? Need that number to be able to corollate them.
Just finishing year #3 with my Toro recycler in northern Utah. Still happy with it but thinking I might need to try this high lift blade.
Awesome!
Is that a toro vortex lawnmower electric power or a gas
great comparison, looking to make the move to electric soon will take this video into my decision, Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
EGO. Super quiet and I don’t smell like I work at a gasoline plant. I’m pretty sure that inhalation of gas fumes are bad for you. I have a friend that I talked into going EGO and his eye and nasal irritation went away. Don’t let people deter you from electric. If you run a business yes you can fuel faster. But if you have a normal sized lot it truly is a life changing experience if you already love to mow. I have 11,000 square feet to mow and my 12Ah battery has 20 to 40 percent leftover when I’m done. I bought a second battery for range anxiety for no reason. I have the EGO blower and the absolutely amazing auto-feeding string trimmer. If EGO makes an aerator and a dethatcher/scarifier it’s going to be disruptive in the lawn care market!
Dudes allergic to a gas mower? You’re just a liar
I've been getting about 10k ft2 on the battery I have. Still believe it's awesome 👌
Thanks for sharing
I was a Toro Honda powered gas user and then switched to EGO with all my yard tools...Toro didn't have electrics yet but I am very happy with all my EGO tools....not a big fan of the steel deck as they usually last 5 yrs before they start rotting away no matter how I clean them...my Toro was aluminum deck and is 8ys old now and I sold it to a friend....do NOT miss the gas problems though even after switching everything to premium gas...Ariens snowblower is my only gas tool now
Thanks for sharing!
I have a Honda 60v. It's my first mower and was a gift. The grass doesn't go in the bag. It's always a mess. It is supposed to mulch if the bag is not on and it doesn't. Even if I mow every 2 or 3 days I am going over it twice if I don't bag it. It can't handle the waxy leaves from these dead ash trees on the HOA side. I have to rake up everything before I mow. Last year there were days I couldn't deal with the leaves and had my old lawn guy come with his gas monster and clean up the yard. I want a better mower but neither of these look like the way to go. I'm going to measure the blade tomorrow : )
Thanks for sharing!
Honda gas powered mower here. I am not a fan of the all-electric mowers, and yes, I have used the electric mowers. I wonder if the dual blade is the cause of the low-cut issues on the ego??
Could be
It seems you didn't mulch with these mowers since the bags were on. Am I right?
Do these self-propelled battery mowers use belts like gas mowers?
From what I remember yes
No they don't!!
@@rickymauritz652 The Toro has a belt
EGO all day! The absolute GOAT of lithium powered mowers. Purchased the 2135SP. 👍🏻✌🏻💙
Love it!
I have a Toro gas smartstow and the blade that comes with it doesn’t mulch well.
frustrating
I’ve had and sold both of these and settled in with a 58v Echo mower.
My Toro cut so well but was horrible at bagging and I bag 90% of the time.
My Ego didn’t cut well at all.
Great points. The high lift blade is a game changer
The 60v Super Recycler bags far better than either of these units
Team Toro I love the metal body. I don’t have to fight to keep the mover down when I got a bump
👊🏻
I would have really liked to see how they both did mulching. Mulching is easier for me as I don’t have to pay for another garbage bin.
@@jpatricksimmons9562 they do fine if you mow 2x or more per week or the equivalent of .25" or less off the top.
I am a big fan of gas mowers, as I have an HRC and mow every 4-5 days. When that one gives up the ghost, I'm sure battery options will be much improved as to what they are today. My local Mower Shop said the Toro battery unit is build the same as their gas version, just different engines. I would do Toro. Although Milwaukee seems to be the top dog in the Electric Mower battle. One thing that is odd to me, is why the battery mowers cost so much? Seems a gas mower is cheaper now. Maybe I am off, but that is what I've found. Thoughts?
Your comment is spot on. Batteries are expensive is the answer to why their expensive. I hope there are MUCH better options in the future. Right now their so-so at best.
@@patricksquires77 Ya, I don't see a reason to go battery on a mower over gas. Perhaps on trimmers and edgers? But I could argue both ways for those items too. My Dad, and Sister have Ego trimmers and blowers. The Ego Trimmer is the most uncomfortable piece of equipment I have ever used. For me it isn't ergonomic, and my hand cramps badly compared to my Shindaiwa, Echo, and Stihl trimmers. Battery blowers have a LONG way to go before I would consider those. The batteries on the Ego don't seem to hold up beyond the 3 year mark either. My sister loves her Ego stuff, compared to gas (she borrowed my Echo stuff for a couple of seasons) but has had to regularly replace the batteries and NEVER has enough juice to Edge, Trim, and use the blower for clean up on a single charge. But she didn't like starting gas machines, or pouring gas into their tanks. Each to their own I suppose?
Great thought process. The egos been great. Just wish the cut quality was a little bit better on the low end.
I’ve heard the rumors with the m18 but haven’t had the pleasure of using it. It’s on the list
Hmmm no maintenance besides sharpening a blade and charging a battery vs gas station trip not much time as we have cars air filters oil mix if you stock up when you do go and never a tuneup needed or having to pull a freaking cord I don’t care who’s the best I went with ego after a client made me use his ego equipment and paid me more to do so this was 6 years ago before I got tired of property landscape maintenance after 33 years truly was like a breath of fresh air apparently the noise and fumes and shop visits is what I didn’t like about gas power but at the time had to make a living and couldn’t wait but those days are behind and I don’t mind one bit 👍👍😁 and in the long run I do believe it to be cheaper if your up on how to store and maintain your batteries properly
@@jonathanbuford1793
I am an engineer. I have built electric cars, I built a world record holding long distance competition electric car, I have owned electric cars.
I love love love my Milwaukee battery yard tools BTW.
I have calculated energy in Joules, Watts, BTUs weekly for 30 years. I know most of the benefits and cons for each commercially available battery type.
There are MANY positives with battery equipment and some big negatives that are quite challenging as well.
None of this has any affect mostly for the trash opinion of mine for electric mowers. I would love to have a great one - there is NO great battery mowers.
The biggest downside to ‘THESE’ mower and almost every consumer electric mower - is their trash. Their junk - their batteries are junk - their controls are abysmal, tires, deck, handles, their trash, their power is worse yet. Every part of them is junk. Expensive too honestly but not really where my issue is.
Looking at the 2156sp for this season to upgrade from an LM2000 (2.5ah battery) so I appreciate this video. I tried a Toro Stripe and it was worse than the nearly 10 year old EGO and choked out sooner. What I hope the newer EGO can do is blaze through hybrid Bermuda at any HOC without me worrying if it's going to choke out and turn off. Do you reckon the 2156sp can handle just about anything? EGO claims 8.3lbs of torque which was their highest. Now they have a 10+lbs model coming out.
Love the feedback
Milwaukee ftw!
I hear it’s a great mower
Hey Ginja! Have you tried that 30" Ryobi 80v mower?
No!!! It’s on the list!
That perennial ryegrass is looking some kind of sick! Translation: it looks amazing.
👊🏻
34 inch toro..22hp..fab deck...coming soon to ME
Rad
Have tons of Ego batteries, so I'd go Ego.
Makes sense
So are you saying the batteries don't last?
So right now I’m trying to decide on which lawnmower to buy. I’m torn on the Ego, and the Milwaukee, Which one would you choose?
Milwaukee
Yo Ginja, have you tried the Milwaukee Mower?
Not yet! It’s in the list
The new 22 inch Ego that’s coming out look like it’s going to beat any current Battery mower. I just wish it was wider than 22 inch.
Nice! I'll have to check it out
Ego twin blade munching set up vs Toro single blade high cut blade. You want a real test switch ego to single blade high cut. In my opinion I'm no expert just my observation. Love your channel it's very educational.
Hard to find. The single blade ego offers is there eco option. Has a small lift on the blade but cuts terribly 😆
I tried finding something as you mentioned and was unable to. Ultimately I agree it's a good idea when possible. It wasn't easy finding the blade I did for the Toro.
Team Toro!
Love it!
3:00 that’s why I don’t toro. LOL
It’s a thing for sure
I would go with the Ego. Toro's "EGO" is too big lol 😂😂
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I'm also team craftsman. 😊 I plan to run a gasoline mower until they become extinct.
Awesome 👌
Not sold yet on battery mower
Cool
Im team craftsman for now 😢
🤣
Why so sad?
@@pestandlawnginja it’s not so bad but I’m trying to upgrade to an ego
Team Toro.
Noice
Uh oh gonna get the big oil simps' dander all worked up with this one, Ginja 😅
🤣🤣🤣
Best part is I'm not a huge fan of battery power, yet the hord still attacks
I'm guessing this is pre lawn nuke?
No. It was after 😃
@@pestandlawnginja whoa!
@@sarinhighwind rye grows and thickens rediculously fast.
@@pestandlawnginja Yeah, I got Zoysia... it dont do that. I got some soil fussiness tho. Doesn't wanna release, so gonna hit it harder in spring. Working on getting rid of some goose grass or dallas grass right nwo though, ugggggh. =*(
@@sarinhighwind for the fungal issues check your iron levels. When Iron is low or depleted fungus thrives
Have you gone away from gas mowers?
No. Not completely
Ariens needs a lawn mower ? There snow blowers are the best ever so much power !!! I hope they do electric and would outdo all these silly mowers sold all my underpowered toro junk
steel deck
I dig it
@@pestandlawnginjaI myself own an ego 21 " mower there are alot of good uses for a electric mower trimming regular mowing night time mowing as with the ego having lights on it , my go to is the honda very loud it micro mulches so does the ego , ego is not a wet grass mower honda is . I like both , purchased the honda with my military discount . both mowers are great cant compain
Team skil
Yeah!
I went from a 30+yr old John Deere 14sb to the Ego LM2156SP. Gas is still superior. I don't get quite as good as a cut as you state but it sure beats the cost of gas.
I miss the cut 😔 but don't miss the fumes and noise
I have the Toro battery along for gas super recycler and gas Honda. There's no comparison. Gas has no issues as where battery u have to always make excuses or explain why it didn't cut well as you did through out. Gas all day .
@@robbiegolding1831 thanks for sharing
Ok so your saying after 35 years in landscaping I wouldn’t be able to tell that’s funny
😆
Gas mowers will have more power than electric that fact!
There are zero😮 good battery operated mowers!
There’s a couple out there that are decent.
team gas mowers
Right on!
Lol...nope, battery mowers are solid and getting a lot better
@@johnbiggins2105 yup I bought the first ego electric mower in 2017 before any electric mowers were in the market. I paid $450 with 2 batteries 5.0ah and after 7 years I absolutely had zero issues. I have half an acre and it takes me about 45 minutes to cut my front and backyard in 1 in half battery.
team electric
Awesome
I own the ego 2156 and it is a HORRIBLE mower. It leaves mohawks and uneven cut. My lawn is carpet thick kbg in front and black beauty ultra in back. I would not recommend an ego for anyone with a nice lawn.
Ego. I went back after giving Toro a try. Too weak for too high a price.
Thanks for sharing!
Battery Mowers are trash. Out
ExxonMobilsimpsezwut? 😂
@ETekcustom Hard to answer for ‘just THESE’ when you bring up allot of unrelated.
Honestly I think you jumped to conclusion on my views based on my crassy @// comment - I forgive you.
SolarPUNK Steve says his setup IS an experiment - he has made no claim yet that it works - just that he wanted to try and work on it. Steve says this in his vids by the way.
Regarding the solar trailer - Between the onboard battery and his trailer being benefitted by being in Florida sun - he has a equivalent of a few gallons of gas in raw power stored and generated on a sunny day. I don’t have anything negative to say - it is all of the best available consumer equipment and well wired and well done and EG4 is some of the best. I think he watches Will Prowse yt channel just my looking at his awesome setup.
Stanley has yet to claim you can make as much money with an electric mower either I believe - (outside of upselling on green/noise level).
I am an engineer. I have built electric cars, I built a world record holding long distance competition electric car, I have owned electric cars.
I love love love my Milwaukee battery yard tools BTW.
I have calculated energy in Joules, Watts, BTUs weekly for 30 years. I know most of the benefits and cons for each commercially available battery type.
There are MANY positives with battery equipment and some big negatives that are quite challenging as well.
None of this has any affect mostly for the trash opinion of mine for electric mowers. I would love to have a great one - there is NO great battery mowers.
The biggest downside to ‘THESE’ mower and almost every consumer electric mower - is their trash. Their junk - their batteries are junk - their controls are abysmal, tires, deck, handles, their trash, their power is worse yet. Every part of them is junk. Expensive too honestly but not really where my issue is.
The m18 is looking promising
Meh
@@pestandlawnginja 😂
battery mowers are crap its all a lie
😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆
You're not very bright fomas. I just purchased a toro 60v stripe battery mower, I have a 3rd of an acre. It cuts solid and crisp. Do your homework and open minded