I use this welder at work. And I’m glad I watched this video. Been using Lincoln since day one. And it always had the digital amp reader. This unit was little odd to work with. Because there is a range and fine tune. But you explained it very well. Thank you.
This was actually helpful I’m using this machine at work and I’m used to the digital reader the info on the dial was helped, I self with 232 wire and I run it at 24-26 vault with a wire speed at 155 to 160
I just bought the 225 for building fence here in Texas. Best thing I've ever bought. Excellent machines. Plus got the rebate on the Miller hobby 125 mig welder. Awesome video man good details.
Can you make a video showing you welding with this machine in a couple different positions and the welds you were able to get? Also if possible can you show how you hook up the Tigers torch you mentioned in the video along with where someone can pick up one of those tig torches.
Luke, Thanks for the informative walk-around. I was wondering if you know if the generator produces enough power to simultaneously run a small mig welder while welding with the bobcat? Thanks
I have the exact machine has done well for me. Great and well built machine. Mainly do stick & scratch TIG. The EFI does make life better the savings do add up.
I just bought the 250 efi , you said you run a plasma and air at the same time, I'm just curious as to what size plasma and compressor you run and how well it works. Thanks for the great video
the math would be: for range 40-130 130-40 / 10(numbers on dial)(*FORMULA* = highest setting in range subtracted by lowest setting in range divided by number of postions on fine tune knob) . So each setting 1-10 would be in increments of 9 amps, 40,49,58,etc... up to highest setting!
Fantastic video. Glad to see a video covering everything in depth. I'm looking into these now, between the 225 or 250. How smooth does the machine weld? I'm looking to start a small side business with it going to farms or light Fabricating until I have my own little Shop to work out of. But like you said, it is an investment and 4k is 4k so it's a tough choice to make. Any other insight you can give would be much appreciated!
Enduro guy22 for 4K for a great arc it's a no brainer. If your only gonna be running stick if go with a Hobart champion elite. Same exact machine but stick D.C. Only
I got one from our local welding store for $1,700.00! it had 500 hours on it when we bought it, i know it worked good, because we had been renting it from them for an entire year before we decided to purchase it outright from them lol.
I got a cheap welder in June or July of last year. I want to now get a mig, tig and stick welder from Miller. My dad used Miller. My mom and step dad said they would build me a shed. haha The thing is, the power would not be more than like, 140. I think. Someone on a site I just joined, that has to do with welding, told me of machines like this. Ones that ARE the generator. Miller recommended a welder that cost $2069. haha So, that is just for a tig. I know this can not really do aluminum, but it seems to be able to do just about everything else. I think I will have to save for this thing. I am also thinking of taking welding in college. Though I am 30 and it may be creepy to those who are 18. haha Thank you for the video. LET MY MONEY VANISH! Hmmm, any thoughts on a good Miller that can do aluminum?
Beautiful machine bro.. i bought a 3 in 1 mig, stick, tig for shop ,, but need a truck mounted ,, man im jealous, ive had my eye on 250 efi ,,thanks for great video,, regards s.c. nielsen chicago il
Great summary . can you run a 115 volt plasma cutter, and a 115 volt air compressor at the same time. Any information would be greatly appreciated am seriously considering the purchase. thanks rebel fx 57
Luke Fosburg I got a really good deal on a Hobart Champion Elite. $2600 locally at TSC. The Bobcat wad the one I was after but couldnt judge the dig diffrence in money for the exta specifications.
Can you run an inverter tig welder off the power generator side? Say if you wanted to weld ally and run an AC machine would it do it without tripping the breaker?
Hi Luke, I bought one of these gems begining of Oct 2014 I have the exact same model the 250 EFI, it was worth paying the extra because with the EFI you don't have to be concerned with old fuel fouling the carberator for cleaning if you leave it without using for an extended period, just simply drain the tank and rinse and refill. My first project with mine has been a welding table I built, but I have a ton more projects yet to tackle. Miller doesn't provide any in depth information on how to set up the rig for TIG are you using a Freq box in your set up or are you coming directlu off the machine, I would like to see all your weld tutorials to pick up any good tips along the way so I subscribed your channel. I am a master carpenter by trade , and a Structural Building Inspector by profession for a local municipality...as a welder I am all DIY and learn all I can as I go...I was using 1/8" 7018 rod to build the table setting the Bobus on 40-130 and dialed in at 70 on the fine tune, it seemed to be the best set up trying to stick 1/8" thin wall pipe to 1/2" plate mild steel...anyway hope to see more weld vids from ya. Jeff
***** Thanks Jeff! For mild steel I just touch start but for Aluminum I use a HF box that is super cheap its called an ARC PIG. Check them out! Its an awesome invention that saves the average user tons of money. Works great too! Also it provides continuous High Freq for welding low current and Aluminum.
For ranch and light to medium fabrication use in a slowly growing single owner operation would there be any great benefit to the Trailblazer 325 versus this welder with a substantial cost savings?
Caleb Wright depends on the machine, look for “square wave technology” and 250 amps should be plenty plus it’s an engine driven so duty cycle is no worry unless you’re doing mig, which you can buy attachments for the wire feed. Argon for tig, mixed gas for mig, and don’t forget to check the oil!
hey luke fusburg nice video i see that the welding machine dont have the conncetor for the stinger can i add it too it for the positive and negative for the twist and lock stinger and clamps
So if you want to mig weld do you set it to the mig setting then plug it into the generator? I already have a mig welding machine. I talked to miller and the guy said you can't really mig or tig weld and it's better to just buy the separate machine for each and run it off this welder/generator.
If you need to arc gouge I would use a rental because you usually will need more than 250amps and I wouldn't want to use my personal engine drive for arc gouging.
very well done video , better than miller does; and has sold me on the miller. Iwould like to know about the black acesof spades on your helmet, was our call sign in Vietnam, thank you.
SuperKwame1 Mine is the gas model. I would stay away from diesel for a welder. They are very time consuming to maintain and the fuel savings/power is not worth the extra price and time. Go to weldersupply.com and order this. I got the EFI model for only $4099 with free shipping no tax. It uses very little fuel and has tons of power. Oil changes are super easy and there is nothing to go wrong. A diesel can gel up in cold weather and the EFI on this model keeps it running awesome in all climates! just my .02
+Luke Fosburg (RC M.D.) diesel is the best way to go last longer better fuel efficiency quiter and yeah they are pain in winter only if you don't take care of it only gas machines I'd buy are the sa 200 .. also the lincoln 305 d machine is a great machine I'm a miller guy but 305 d lincoln is great for the money
i just bought a bobcat 225nt i also have a new miller 211 that has 120v or 220v now my question is how do i plug in to the 220 because it has i four female plug and my 211 only has three.it there some kind of adapter or something. thanks troy
troy Winslow There is a special Miller Adapter that goes from 4 pin to 3. www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.com/miller-adaptor-cord-full-kva-240v-miller-engine-drive-300517
maybe someone can update me, are there problems with using this to power the important stuff in a house thinking fridge, microwave, and maybe heat/AC? Is it safe, i'm not up to date on welders being used as a home generator.
I have used it on many occasions for my entire house including all sensitive electronics and have not had any problems. With that being said I would encourage surge protection or even power conditioning :)
I always read where people claim that the Trailblazer has much better arc quality. Wasn't sure if that meant that Bobcat arc quality was really bad or simply not as good as the Trailblazer.
Awesome review! Awesome machine! I might be up for an upgrade. Just bought the new trailer and like you - most of my friends are just now hitting the fields for #harvest2019 ! :-)
Finally someone who understands what a customer is needing to see before spending so much money. Best review so far my man. Thanks
I use this welder at work. And I’m glad I watched this video. Been using Lincoln since day one. And it always had the digital amp reader. This unit was little odd to work with. Because there is a range and fine tune. But you explained it very well. Thank you.
great review. Finally, someone who gets right to it, no malarky, just what I wanted to hear!
Best review I've seen so far... Thank you.
This was actually helpful I’m using this machine at work and I’m used to the digital reader the info on the dial was helped, I self with 232 wire and I run it at 24-26 vault with a wire speed at 155 to 160
I just bought the 225 for building fence here in Texas. Best thing I've ever bought. Excellent machines. Plus got the rebate on the Miller hobby 125 mig welder. Awesome video man good details.
Thanks, I've been in love with this machine for a while now. I'm in the process of building my own shop and your video is awesome!
Can you make a video showing you welding with this machine in a couple different positions and the welds you were able to get? Also if possible can you show how you hook up the Tigers torch you mentioned in the video along with where someone can pick up one of those tig torches.
Luke,
Thanks for the informative walk-around. I was wondering if you know if the generator produces enough power to simultaneously run a small mig welder while welding with the bobcat? Thanks
I have the exact machine has done well for me. Great and well built machine. Mainly do stick & scratch TIG. The EFI does make life better the savings do add up.
You aren't joking! Thanks so much for commenting :)
Fantastic explanation. I actually just purchased one and was looking for information and found your thread. Much appreciated. Thanks!!
I just bought the 250 efi , you said you run a plasma and air at the same time, I'm just curious as to what size plasma and compressor you run and how well it works. Thanks for the great video
Thanks Luke for a very nicely done review. Looking forward to your how-to series. Regards, Neil
Looks like a great source for charging a battery bank, straight DC power to DC storage.
GREAT review Best I have seen and I have Been looking around.
the math would be: for range 40-130 130-40 / 10(numbers on dial)(*FORMULA* = highest setting in range subtracted by lowest setting in range divided by number of postions on fine tune knob) . So each setting 1-10 would be in increments of 9 amps, 40,49,58,etc... up to highest setting!
Fantastic video. Glad to see a video covering everything in depth. I'm looking into these now, between the 225 or 250. How smooth does the machine weld? I'm looking to start a small side business with it going to farms or light Fabricating until I have my own little Shop to work out of. But like you said, it is an investment and 4k is 4k so it's a tough choice to make. Any other insight you can give would be much appreciated!
Enduro guy22 for 4K for a great arc it's a no brainer. If your only gonna be running stick if go with a Hobart champion elite. Same exact machine but stick D.C. Only
I love these! I really wish I had the funds to buy one right now I could really put one to work!
I got one from our local welding store for $1,700.00! it had 500 hours on it when we bought it, i know it worked good, because we had been renting it from them for an entire year before we decided to purchase it outright from them lol.
I got a cheap welder in June or July of last year. I want to now get a mig, tig and stick welder from Miller. My dad used Miller. My mom and step dad said they would build me a shed. haha The thing is, the power would not be more than like, 140. I think. Someone on a site I just joined, that has to do with welding, told me of machines like this. Ones that ARE the generator. Miller recommended a welder that cost $2069. haha So, that is just for a tig. I know this can not really do aluminum, but it seems to be able to do just about everything else. I think I will have to save for this thing. I am also thinking of taking welding in college. Though I am 30 and it may be creepy to those who are 18. haha Thank you for the video. LET MY MONEY VANISH! Hmmm, any thoughts on a good Miller that can do aluminum?
Thanks Luke, Great review which was extremely helpful.
Bruce Tainter Glad it helped!
Great review, nice description of the features it looks like a awesome machine.
Any idea what is the projected life of the engine?
Beautiful machine bro.. i bought a 3 in 1 mig, stick, tig for shop ,, but need a truck mounted ,, man im jealous, ive had my eye on 250 efi ,,thanks for great video,, regards s.c. nielsen chicago il
Great summary . can you run a 115 volt plasma cutter, and a 115 volt air compressor at the same time. Any information would be greatly appreciated am seriously considering the purchase. thanks rebel fx 57
Great video! Thanks for posting!
I cant decide between a Ranger or Bobcat. Hopefully I make up my mind and order mid June.
Did you ever order one?
Luke Fosburg I got a really good deal on a Hobart Champion Elite. $2600 locally at TSC. The Bobcat wad the one I was after but couldnt judge the dig diffrence in money for the exta specifications.
Thanks for the Great education.
Does it have jump start capability for 12 & 24 volt equipment?
Great presentation by the way.
Great info for a newbie welder
Hey Luke, does the bobcat 250 generator have an inverter on it ? Wondering how clean the electricity is ?
Can you run an inverter tig welder off the power generator side? Say if you wanted to weld ally and run an AC machine would it do it without tripping the breaker?
Can the miller bobcat 250 gouge like the lincoln 250 can? just been wondering
Hi Luke, I bought one of these gems begining of Oct 2014 I have the exact same model the 250 EFI, it was worth paying the extra because with the EFI you don't have to be concerned with old fuel fouling the carberator for cleaning if you leave it without using for an extended period, just simply drain the tank and rinse and refill. My first project with mine has been a welding table I built, but I have a ton more projects yet to tackle.
Miller doesn't provide any in depth information on how to set up the rig for TIG are you using a Freq box in your set up or are you coming directlu off the machine, I would like to see all your weld tutorials to pick up any good tips along the way so I subscribed your channel.
I am a master carpenter by trade , and a Structural Building Inspector by profession for a local municipality...as a welder I am all DIY and learn all I can as I go...I was using 1/8" 7018 rod to build the table setting the Bobus on 40-130 and dialed in at 70 on the fine tune, it seemed to be the best set up trying to stick 1/8" thin wall pipe to 1/2" plate mild steel...anyway hope to see more weld vids from ya.
Jeff
***** Thanks Jeff! For mild steel I just touch start but for Aluminum I use a HF box that is super cheap its called an ARC PIG. Check them out! Its an awesome invention that saves the average user tons of money. Works great too! Also it provides continuous High Freq for welding low current and Aluminum.
Luke Fosburg thanks I did check that out seems you can use it for stick too...pretty neat
For ranch and light to medium fabrication use in a slowly growing single owner operation would there be any great benefit to the Trailblazer 325 versus this welder with a substantial cost savings?
i no i already commented, but caught your vid again , nice review thanks alot
Can it weld aluminum tig or mig function?
Caleb Wright depends on the machine, look for “square wave technology” and 250 amps should be plenty plus it’s an engine driven so duty cycle is no worry unless you’re doing mig, which you can buy attachments for the wire feed. Argon for tig, mixed gas for mig, and don’t forget to check the oil!
Yes to both. But you need a wire feeder for mig
hey luke fusburg nice video i see that the welding machine dont have the conncetor for the stinger can i add it too it for the positive and negative for the twist and lock stinger and clamps
So if you want to mig weld do you set it to the mig setting then plug it into the generator? I already have a mig welding machine. I talked to miller and the guy said you can't really mig or tig weld and it's better to just buy the separate machine for each and run it off this welder/generator.
just wondering if the machine comes oiled already brand new out of the box.
Very informative thanks
Nice set up
Thanks!
I got the same welding machine is really really nice
Hi everyone. Is this a power supply also for whatever is need? Or just a welder? Thanks
I got a Q what's the function AC/I got a bobcat 250 but i want to know if I can do aluminum
with this welder machine
thanks greetings from Phoenix Az
If I just wanted to run generator... do I change any of the welding settimgs?
Thanks Luke I just order it.
I will like to see a video how to set up this machine at tig welding
Great vid bro.
They are great machines.
What about arc gouging
If you need to arc gouge I would use a rental because you usually will need more than 250amps and I wouldn't want to use my personal engine drive for arc gouging.
I'm curious about the mig/fluxcore set ups to use with this machine- Thanks
Its almost the easiest to purchase a stand alone mig unit and just use the bobcat as a generator....
can you recommend the batter details of this machine.
What kind of gas does it use. Just rented one and can't find info.
How do you hook up the mig gun? Where do you put the wire?
I want to know if this mechine can do fabrication cause I am in school learning to weld I just want know can it do it
very well done video , better than miller does; and has sold me on the miller. Iwould like to know about the black acesof spades on your helmet, was our call sign in Vietnam, thank you.
Denny Reid Awesome! That helmet is from Jackson and is called the Ace of Spades. No direct relevance to me but I love the design.
Looking to install a Profax Mig Gun to a Miller 250 Bobcat Diesel. Do you have anything on this??
Got it done with the help of Profax peeps and airgas here in town. Thanks
How's it holding up?
I want to purchase the diesel model, and I would like to know if yours is Gas or Diesel, and what is your advice on diesel.
SuperKwame1 Mine is the gas model. I would stay away from diesel for a welder. They are very time consuming to maintain and the fuel savings/power is not worth the extra price and time. Go to weldersupply.com and order this. I got the EFI model for only $4099 with free shipping no tax. It uses very little fuel and has tons of power. Oil changes are super easy and there is nothing to go wrong. A diesel can gel up in cold weather and the EFI on this model keeps it running awesome in all climates! just my .02
+Luke Fosburg (RC M.D.) diesel is the best way to go last longer better fuel efficiency quiter and yeah they are pain in winter only if you don't take care of it only gas machines I'd buy are the sa 200 .. also the lincoln 305 d machine is a great machine I'm a miller guy but 305 d lincoln is great for the money
Have you tried if you can do spray?
Nice video
i just bought a bobcat 225nt i also have a new miller 211 that has 120v or 220v now my question is how do i plug in to the 220 because it has i four female plug and my 211 only has three.it there some kind of adapter or something. thanks troy
troy Winslow There is a special Miller Adapter that goes from 4 pin to 3. www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.com/miller-adaptor-cord-full-kva-240v-miller-engine-drive-300517
no. yours plugs right into it. your 211 doesn't use nutral
maybe someone can update me, are there problems with using this to power the important stuff in a house thinking fridge, microwave, and maybe heat/AC? Is it safe, i'm not up to date on welders being used as a home generator.
I have used it on many occasions for my entire house including all sensitive electronics and have not had any problems. With that being said I would encourage surge protection or even power conditioning :)
@@LukeFosburg what's power conditioning?
that pulsating chirp while it was idling was annoying.......I think the trailblazer will run a PC smoother than this..........?
Yes I like the trailblazer if you can afford the step up.
How is arc quality?
Mark Decamps Unbelievable!
I always read where people claim that the Trailblazer has much better arc quality. Wasn't sure if that meant that Bobcat arc quality was really bad or simply not as good as the Trailblazer.
If you fiil it with too much fuel might run into crankcase
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hows the duty cycle?
Luis bonilla 100% all day.
nice thanks
Awesome review! Awesome machine! I might be up for an upgrade. Just bought the new trailer and like you - most of my friends are just now hitting the fields for #harvest2019 ! :-)
miller needs your bill 4 that
there over $12,000 in Australia . Not many sales. Way too expensive
straightShooter they need the best you gotta pay you’re gonna make it back
11:15 its veryyyyyy loud!!.. i wanna get rid of mine