How will this effect towing? What I find is that when towing it kick down to low of a gear while 5th should be enough to get the job done. It's like from 6th straight to 4th or even 3rd when it hit the slightest hill. Will this make it shift back gradually say from 6th to 5th then 4th? Also will it make manual shift manual. Because in manual shift mode it still go back gears by itself even if I leave it in 6th. Manual shifting is basically useless in the 200. If this kit fixes all the problems as mentioned I will get my 2018 tuned vx done for sure.
Good video mate , But on the Speedo it looks like there’s five or six k’s an hour difference when you first start the tests with and with out lock up on . Is there a reason for that because mine does the same especially when there’s a difference in speed .
Do you change other shift points or only 5 -6? I not in mine it loves to hold onto 1st and 2nd up to 3000rpm if I want to get off the mark at a reasonable pace. Frankly it feels like it would be happier to shit up earlier and let the torque do the job.
@@ausguy4385 Max power occurs at 3600rpm but max torque at 1600 - 2600 rpm. I have no,problem with the car revving up to 3000rpm and beyond when looking to accelerate more briskly but the gearbox wants to rev to 3000 rpm at every opportunity. That is well beyond maximum torque and pretty pointless when just driving with the traffic.
Good old Nerang!! This is a problem I encounter every time we go on a trip, I’ll be into see you guys next time I’m down there!! Does this still work ok with cruise control on?
I wouldn't want my transmission to be locked up above 80Km/hr. I think it is a bad idea because kickdowns provide passing power on the highway. Imagine trying to overtake someone at over 80Km/hr & trans is locked up!!! 🤔
Thats the point mate - it's like having a manual car, it doesn't kickdown gears anymore, holds the torque on, therefore overtaking is much better & much more effortless 👍
If you are reprogramming the gearbox ecu why do you need a converter lockup kick kit. Surely you can simply reprogramming the computer you can simply change the torque converter lock up parameters as well without needing a seperate override to lock up the converter earlier? Or are you unable to change the transmission programming for the torque converter lockup?
They have two different purposes, Peter. The lock up kit controls the actual converter lock up & will activate when it reaches the set speed of approx. 80kph. So from this speed onwards, the converter is locked & below this speed it is unlocked. The trans tune solves the problem of it shifting into 6th gear too late & dropping back to 5th too early. The torque converter lock up stops converter slip, the flaring & the hunting; reducing engine RPM, improving fuel economy & reducing trans oil temp.
@@UltimateDieselTuning . Thanks for your reply. As the computer in the stock vehicle also controls the torque converter lock-up parameters, is it simply that the software changes you make to the gearbox don’t allow you to change those parameters as well to do the same thing? I ask only because of my innate preference to avoid as many add on modules and wiring changes as possible for reasons of pure simplicity when travelling in remote areas. I quite understand that the software you are using may not be able to change the torque converter lock up within the main gearbox computer as the manufacturers hate letting people mess with their own programming no matter how poorly they may have done it themselves.
Do you have an authorized dealer selling and installing your transmission Lockup kit here in Manila, Philippines? I have a 2016 LC200 and I do appreciate your rationale for installing the transmission lockup kit to enhance longevity of transmission as well as promote better mileage per liter.
What happens if you put the trans in manual mode. Does it still change gears the same?? It shouldn't, otherwise that mode is useless. Contemplating buying a 200, so doing some research......
@@UltimateDieselTuning So under 80Kph,will the auto lock up in the lower gears,i presume as the gearbox did before the mods?ALso running 33's,your speedo will be different than actual speed for stock size wheels.How does that change the shift points above 80Kph?
Hi there, I just imported my 2020 V8 diesel 200 series to Hungary, Europe. Is there any solution you do the remap online somehow or send the software on email and I let it upload somewhere? It would cost a fortune to send the ECU to Australia and back with insurance and in case it get lost somewhere I cannot buy a new one here in Europe. Any solution guys? Thanks a lot
We have tuning agents down there mate. Please email your inquiry, your car & your contact phone number through to: dealers@ultimatedieseltuning.com.au Cheers!
All good but if things go belly up while under Toyota warranty, will they honour their warranty, I don't think so. I'm leaving my '19 Sahara standard until 2024!
Just like a tune they have to prove it causes a failure. As for warranty with the trans this is actually better for the trans. A steady gear keeps it much cooler then a constant 500+ rpm change every time you come to a slight hill
@@Mrbeast0099 After Toyota see that it has been altered from standard it will give them the right not to honour their warranty irrespective if it was an improvement or not, the simple fact is that had been change from the condition that they cover by warranty.
retuning the engine & tweaking the transmission accordingly should do the job!!! remapping the engine ECU for driveability in higher gears!!! I'm from Kolkata, India!!! do you have a contact number???
Stunning beast land cruiser is the most expensive suv here in the Philippines
Most modern autos have this issue. The Ford Ranger has a terrible auto trans, should look at that as well if you haven’t.
Even 100 series v8 does the same thing .. pain in the back side and will find a lock up convertor as well for it and valve body for tighter shifts
Damn that 200 looks great!
Isn't the struggle to stay in 6th gear a symptom of bigger tyres? I have a feeling lift and wider tyre diameter makes the problem worse.
Cheers
No, it happens with standard tyres too
I test drove one today and thought 6th was disabled, and it was bone stock with only 14,000 kms
How will this effect towing? What I find is that when towing it kick down to low of a gear while 5th should be enough to get the job done. It's like from 6th straight to 4th or even 3rd when it hit the slightest hill. Will this make it shift back gradually say from 6th to 5th then 4th? Also will it make manual shift manual. Because in manual shift mode it still go back gears by itself even if I leave it in 6th. Manual shifting is basically useless in the 200. If this kit fixes all the problems as mentioned I will get my 2018 tuned vx done for sure.
It will make it stay in top gear for much longer. It's a huge improvement in the way the vehicle drives, especially when towing!
@@UltimateDieselTuning yes but I still hate the way it kick way back. Make a program that can manual shift and kick back gradually?
Good video mate , But on the Speedo it looks like there’s five or six k’s an hour difference when you first start the tests with and with out lock up on . Is there a reason for that because mine does the same especially when there’s a difference in speed .
We are getting 8 speed automatic transmission
Do you change other shift points or only 5 -6? I not in mine it loves to hold onto 1st and 2nd up to 3000rpm if I want to get off the mark at a reasonable pace. Frankly it feels like it would be happier to shit up earlier and let the torque do the job.
Yeah mine does that too, needlessly reving instead of using the engines torque
Ultimate diesel tuning, do have any more on whether you also adjust the other change points or just 5 & 6?
@@ausguy4385 Max power occurs at 3600rpm but max torque at 1600 - 2600 rpm. I have no,problem with the car revving up to 3000rpm and beyond when looking to accelerate more briskly but the gearbox wants to rev to 3000 rpm at every opportunity. That is well beyond maximum torque and pretty pointless when just driving with the traffic.
Good old Nerang!! This is a problem I encounter every time we go on a trip, I’ll be into see you guys next time I’m down there!!
Does this still work ok with cruise control on?
Yes it sure does Steve!
I wouldn't want my transmission to be locked up above 80Km/hr.
I think it is a bad idea because kickdowns provide passing power on the highway. Imagine trying to overtake someone at over 80Km/hr & trans is locked up!!!
🤔
Thats the point mate - it's like having a manual car, it doesn't kickdown gears anymore, holds the torque on, therefore overtaking is much better & much more effortless 👍
If you are reprogramming the gearbox ecu why do you need a converter lockup kick kit. Surely you can simply reprogramming the computer you can simply change the torque converter lock up parameters as well without needing a seperate override to lock up the converter earlier? Or are you unable to change the transmission programming for the torque converter lockup?
They have two different purposes, Peter. The lock up kit controls the actual converter lock up & will activate when it reaches the set speed of approx. 80kph. So from this speed onwards, the converter is locked & below this speed it is unlocked. The trans tune solves the problem of it shifting into 6th gear too late & dropping back to 5th too early. The torque converter lock up stops converter slip, the flaring & the hunting; reducing engine RPM, improving fuel economy & reducing trans oil temp.
@@UltimateDieselTuning . Thanks for your reply. As the computer in the stock vehicle also controls the torque converter lock-up parameters, is it simply that the software changes you make to the gearbox don’t allow you to change those parameters as well to do the same thing? I ask only because of my innate preference to avoid as many add on modules and wiring changes as possible for reasons of pure simplicity when travelling in remote areas. I quite understand that the software you are using may not be able to change the torque converter lock up within the main gearbox computer as the manufacturers hate letting people mess with their own programming no matter how poorly they may have done it themselves.
@@peterj5751 hey Peter, please give our technical guys a call on 1800034373 so they can answer any questions that you have!
Love the video mate. I've got a question can I convert to manual?
No
Do you have an authorized dealer selling and installing your transmission Lockup kit here in Manila, Philippines? I have a 2016 LC200 and I do appreciate your rationale for installing the transmission lockup kit to enhance longevity of transmission as well as promote better mileage per liter.
Just do the manual mode
there is no maual mode on the LC200 :-(
Great clip, Thanks.
why even get a lock up kit if you change the gear change points
Is this for both Gas and diesel? I'm in the US and have a gas powered 2015 Land Cruiser.
no it's just the diesel, the US gets a different transmission although a 6 speed until 2016 where it changed to an 8 speed
So good, will it hold the 6th gear up mount tumbourine?
Hey Dunstan, no & we definitely would not recommend that either.
Any recommendations for this work to be done in Ireland or Uk? What exactly should I be asking to be done? Thanks
Fortuner and n80 too
Correct!
what’s the suspension lift & tyres on this LC??? Is it a 2.5 in. lift??? Please advise . . .
2 inch lift, 33 inch tyres!
What springs and shocks u running?
I live in Auckland, NZ. How / where can I get this done, thx
Was the gearbox tuned for petrol version and not returned for the deisel from Toyota
I have bought the lockup kit, what are the details of the rims and tyres? they look awesome
They are Method rims - 33"
Looks like it needs revised final gears
Excellent video
This is awesome!!
How can we get this in Saudi Arabia ?
Not sure on that...
Will your trans tune be compatible with a Stocklock single speed lock up kit?
Yes!
Do you offer the same set up for a USA version 2020 Tacoma? It has the same issue of hunting for the 5th and 6th gear
No, sorry mate
What happens if you put the trans in manual mode. Does it still change gears the same?? It shouldn't, otherwise that mode is useless.
Contemplating buying a 200, so doing some research......
It still works as per normal - as in the lockup will still turn on at about 80kph. So it's all good.
@@UltimateDieselTuning So under 80Kph,will the auto lock up in the lower gears,i presume as the gearbox did before the mods?ALso running 33's,your speedo will be different than actual speed for stock size wheels.How does that change the shift points above 80Kph?
Do you have one that works with petrol engines?
No sorry mate.
Bloody awesome
What size tires u got on it?
Can u do the trans remap without ecu remap on pre facelift?
Yes we sure can James.
What tires and is there a lift on it?
33s & 2inch lift
Is this the 4.5 v8 twin turbo in the Uk?
Aus now only get Diesel Twin Turbo V8 for Cruiser 200 series.
@@kushil Africa too
3:51 isn't this doing is lugging the diesel engine? by doing so it can't reach it's hotest exhauts temp to burn off unburn deposits in the cat/dpf?
Nope
so what condition will be considered as lugging? below 1000RPM?
Hey guys, do you have somewhere in Sydney??
Cheers
Hey Matt, yes we have dealers in Sydney. Please give us a call on 1800034373 so we can assist you with your inquiry!
Hi there, I just imported my 2020 V8 diesel 200 series to Hungary, Europe. Is there any solution you do the remap online somehow or send the software on email and I let it upload somewhere? It would cost a fortune to send the ECU to Australia and back with insurance and in case it get lost somewhere I cannot buy a new one here in Europe. Any solution guys? Thanks a lot
Hi Dudas, unfortunely no we can't help you. Every vehicle that we tune/remap is done CUSTOM via the use of our software, hardware & in-house dyno.
Dudas kitti www.econ-lock.com/
@@UltimateDieselTuning Do you need the car to run on Dyno for gearbox remap?
@@arcticcod8403 it does not exist anymore
how to improve toyota hilux ride comfort
Buy a land cruiser.
@@jimprovan8866 its aud 500k here and hilux is like 80k
@@stevyop99 where are you?
Do you have shops in Perth ?
We recommend Garage 101 in the Perth area.
Do you have any stores in Sydney nsw
We have tuning agents down there mate. Please email your inquiry, your car & your contact phone number through to: dealers@ultimatedieseltuning.com.au
Cheers!
Is there a place in Adelaide that does this?
Yes mate, we have tuning agents in the SA area. Please give us a call on 1800034373 to ask more about this.
How much to do this to a 200 series?
Hey Jarrod, all prices vary mate. Please give our quoting guys a call on 1800034373 for your pricing.
@@UltimateDieselTuning will do for sure 👍
@@UltimateDieselTuning why would the price vary for different 200 series
@@supfpv because every car is different & they all get custom dyno tuned properly & differently to each other
All good but you should change your tyres they are very noisy, imagine travelling long distances..
They aren't noisy actually. They are very quiet!
How much
Hey Trevor - for pricing, please call our quoting guys on 1800034373. Cheers mate!
Could we just shift to manual mode and shift it to 6th gear, and letting it hold from there?
no, toyota's software if from 1960's :-(
All good but if things go belly up while under Toyota warranty, will they honour their warranty, I don't think so. I'm leaving my '19 Sahara standard until 2024!
Just like a tune they have to prove it causes a failure.
As for warranty with the trans this is actually better for the trans. A steady gear keeps it much cooler then a constant 500+ rpm change every time you come to a slight hill
adrenalinerush91 100% true this is much better on the transmission, still good luck with a warranty claim if the transmission does have issues
@@Mrbeast0099 After Toyota see that it has been altered from standard it will give them the right not to honour their warranty irrespective if it was an improvement or not, the simple fact is that had been change from the condition that they cover by warranty.
Greg Whittingham I know
@@adrenalinerush91 100%!!!
Verry dark view camera.. no see detail..
Ok that's weird mate, it is not dark.
retuning the engine & tweaking the transmission accordingly should do the job!!! remapping the engine ECU for driveability in higher gears!!! I'm from Kolkata, India!!! do you have a contact number???
Sorry mate, we can't help you if your are from India
@@UltimateDieselTuning just want to know where can I get a proper heavy duty 3.0 in. suspension lift kit (with all options) for the LC200???
@@chandrachurniyogi8394 Ebay.