@@alexeysclarinet9109 For instance I play on Yamaha 650 for many years, it is not convenient instrument for me, but I played a lot, graduated from Music Academy by 2 degrees bachelor and master and still play on it, because unfortunately, I don't have money for more expensive instrument😅. But it still works for me cause I accustomed to it. When I don't play, after 1, 2 weeks it feel uncomfortable again. But when I practise, play exercises a lot, I accure it. The same with this stretching on Albert or Öhler. We are just accustomed to Boehm because played a lot on it.
Unfortunately, the player's hand was covering much of each instrument as he was showing it, so we couldn't get a good look at the keys, especially those of the lower joint where the differences are most distinct.
@@billywilliams7827 I played one, it was typical German mouthpiece - closed and long facing. I needed to use harder reeds, because my normal reeds felt to soft.
It's comparing apples and pears. On the German clarinet one should use a German mouthpiece with a Germand cut reed. It requires a different embouchure.
I somewhat disagree. It feels to me that the only real issue with mixing German and French setup is intonation issues. Other things are pretty subjective as they are related to sound concept that can be very different from person to person. But you are absolutely right in terms that if someone wants to have clear understanding of what is German vs French then it should be only German clarinet, mouthpiece, reed and the same for French setup.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Thanks for you answer. I have been a professional clarinet and bassclarinet player.of the german school in Holland and I am on pension now. The bore of tenon and mouth piece of german clarinet differs from the French system. Lay, shape and cut of the reed are also different. Funny thing is that the New Orleans clarinetists in the US used a Selmer Albert System with a French mouthpiece. Sounded Ok not fro classical music, though.. My artists' name is Art Marshall .Maybe you have seen mt arrs on TH-cam Greetings.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Thank you I Play Wurlitzer and Dietz german clarinets. Are you familiar with Reform Boehm Clarinets? There is a good article about that by Luigi Magistrelli. Also check out my article on the internet IN PDF .Benny "Goodman and the classical clarinet repertoire:
@@heinvanmaarschalkerwaart9799 I know about Reform Boehm but I never played one. Though it seems it's a great for ones who want somewhat German sound but with French fingering. PS. Unfortunately, was not able to find your article :(
Есть ленинградский кларнет немецкой системы в россии не купить трости для немецкого мундштука ну или просто я не знаю где взять есть вариант на ебее из сша заказать но это получается в 3 раза дороже чем в москве французские трости к тому же продают пачками! Имеет ли смысл купить французский мундштук? Не испортит ли он звук?
Могут быть проблемы со строем. В теории, можно попробовать мундштуки типа M30D, B40D Vandoren, которые созданы для того, чтобы играть на немецкой системе, но на французских тростях. Ещё вариант по фр. тростям просто на наждачной бумаге сделать их уже.
Могу добавить еще информацию о мундштуке Rico B5, хорошо играет на кларнете немецкой системы тростями Rico. Можно начинать пробовать с твердости 2 или 2,5. По цене дешевле, чем Vandoren. И звучит не хуже, чем M30D, я сравнивал, есть и тот и другой.
Yeah, I agree. This German system clarinet is pretty old. Maybe that's why it's out of tune. Also, maybe it's because of a mouthpiece or maybe because of I am not used to it :)
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I've tried many mouthpieces. One I tried was amazing in every way,great sound,easy to find good reeds,easy to play between registers and to play staccato. Well until it came down to the tuning. The throat tones were so way out of tune to the rest of the range. 25-30% flat. Bb,A,Ab,G,F,F# and even E
I bought an Albert system and could not get used to the fingering. It is relaxing in it's case until I sell it.😊
Yeah, I also don't like that it requires more finger stretching then boehm.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Alexey, what about finger stretching in Öhler more known german system?
@@AlvinsThoughts yeah, it requires more stretching, I need to put my fingers more wide. Another inconvenience for Boehm users.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 It depends, for what instrument you spend more time practicing
@@alexeysclarinet9109 For instance I play on Yamaha 650 for many years, it is not convenient instrument for me, but I played a lot, graduated from Music Academy by 2 degrees bachelor and master and still play on it, because unfortunately, I don't have money for more expensive instrument😅. But it still works for me cause I accustomed to it. When I don't play, after 1, 2 weeks it feel uncomfortable again. But when I practise, play exercises a lot, I accure it. The same with this stretching on Albert or Öhler.
We are just accustomed to Boehm because played a lot on it.
Unfortunately, the player's hand was covering much of each instrument as he was showing it, so we couldn't get a good look at the keys, especially those of the lower joint where the differences are most distinct.
Mid-register E is so much better on a German clarinet. Sweeter, more compact. Very obvious.
I always find the German sound more meaty and French more hollow if that make sense?
@@SelimcanSakar it makes a lot of sense for me. I agree, though I use a bit different words "more dense" (German) and "more broad" (French) 😊
Hello what clarinet do you prefer for the sound thanks.
Hi, that's a tough question. I like a german system for compact sound but it seems to me that you can get more colors with a french system.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Hello did you ever play a german mouthpiece if so does it use less strength reeds compared to a good French mp thanks
@@billywilliams7827 I played one, it was typical German mouthpiece - closed and long facing. I needed to use harder reeds, because my normal reeds felt to soft.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Hello Alexey's are you on Facebook thanks Bill.
@@billywilliams7827 yeah, I am, though I didn't visit or post there for years)
It's comparing apples and pears. On the German clarinet one should use a German mouthpiece with a Germand cut reed. It requires a different embouchure.
I somewhat disagree. It feels to me that the only real issue with mixing German and French setup is intonation issues. Other things are pretty subjective as they are related to sound concept that can be very different from person to person.
But you are absolutely right in terms that if someone wants to have clear understanding of what is German vs French then it should be only German clarinet, mouthpiece, reed and the same for French setup.
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Thanks for you answer. I have been a professional clarinet and bassclarinet player.of the german school in Holland and I am on pension now. The bore of tenon and mouth piece of german clarinet differs from the French system. Lay, shape and cut of the reed are also different. Funny thing is that the New Orleans clarinetists in the US used a Selmer Albert System with a French mouthpiece. Sounded Ok not fro classical music, though.. My artists' name is Art Marshall .Maybe you have seen mt arrs on TH-cam Greetings.
@heinvanmaarschalkerwaart9799 wow, a lot of great arrs! That's awesome!
@@alexeysclarinet9109 Thank you I Play Wurlitzer and Dietz german clarinets. Are you familiar with Reform Boehm Clarinets? There is a good article about that by Luigi Magistrelli. Also check out my article on the internet IN PDF .Benny "Goodman and the classical clarinet repertoire:
@@heinvanmaarschalkerwaart9799 I know about Reform Boehm but I never played one. Though it seems it's a great for ones who want somewhat German sound but with French fingering.
PS. Unfortunately, was not able to find your article :(
Есть ленинградский кларнет немецкой системы в россии не купить трости для немецкого мундштука ну или просто я не знаю где взять есть вариант на ебее из сша заказать но это получается в 3 раза дороже чем в москве французские трости к тому же продают пачками! Имеет ли смысл купить французский мундштук? Не испортит ли он звук?
Могут быть проблемы со строем. В теории, можно попробовать мундштуки типа M30D, B40D Vandoren, которые созданы для того, чтобы играть на немецкой системе, но на французских тростях. Ещё вариант по фр. тростям просто на наждачной бумаге сделать их уже.
Могу добавить еще информацию о мундштуке Rico B5, хорошо играет на кларнете немецкой системы тростями Rico. Можно начинать пробовать с твердости 2 или 2,5. По цене дешевле, чем Vandoren. И звучит не хуже, чем M30D, я сравнивал, есть и тот и другой.
The french system clarinet sounds to me more in tune. Probably this mouthpiece is not the best for the german system clarinet.
Yeah, I agree. This German system clarinet is pretty old. Maybe that's why it's out of tune. Also, maybe it's because of a mouthpiece or maybe because of I am not used to it :)
@@alexeysclarinet9109 I've tried many mouthpieces. One I tried was amazing in every way,great sound,easy to find good reeds,easy to play between registers and to play staccato.
Well until it came down to the tuning. The throat tones were so way out of tune to the rest of the range. 25-30% flat. Bb,A,Ab,G,F,F# and even E
@@klarinetta oh, that's really disappointing 😔
@@alexeysclarinet9109 it is odd because the German system clarinet is usually known for being more in tune
@@lollol-en9xx this German clarinet is really old and not the best one. Also, it's a Boehm mouthpiece, that isn't really suited for German clarinets.
The German system has a nice sound, but it's really uncomfortable to play in my opinion. That's why I don't like it.
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