You can also try this: Jack up the car near the drivers door. This will usually raise the rear tire as well and you can then just swap the tires front to rear and rear to front. If you're not working under the car you don't really need a jack stand. I've been doing it like this for years using a 3 ton floor jack. Good video!
Yes that is true. I have also rotated tires without jack stands, and is fine as long as you are not getting under the car. But I thought I'd show the 'safe' way so I don't get chewed out by the internet police...hehe
For the home DIY mechanic, rotating the tires front to rear is perfectly fine. You will still maintain proper wear on all 4 tires by rotating it this way. If you have directional tires, then the tires can only be rotated front to rear. Of course if you have 4 jack stands and you want to jack up all 4 corners, then you can rotate them across (only for non-directional tires).
It's such a blessing to drive the same car as you sir! When it comes to it, I will be watching your vid again. Now I'm sensing the next vid is about oil change (item B)? lol
Yes he did. I was wondering the same. Even the manual states to do the "forward cross" pattern on this since those Turanzas are not directional tires. Oh well.
4 yrs old I'm not sure if you'll respond but is there a difference jacking the car, putting the jack stands on the left and right of car and just changing the front tires then the back tires? I see you do the left side then the right side. Maybe this is because you are rotating tires I am just switching sets of tires for winter
I swapped the front and back for tire rotation because the front will get worn out faster than the rear. If you are just swapping out tires with winter ones, you can just do one corner at a time. There are lift points at the front and rear under the cross member to jack up the whole axle. Do what works for you and be safe.
So the only spot to place a Jack stand is behind front wheels and in front of rear wheels? I jacked up the front passenger side… removed the wheel only to realize there’s no other Jack or lift points to place a Jack stand on.
@@dial2fast Are directional tires always marked with "rotation >"? Or, are there times when you can only tell by looking at the tread? Spent a lot of time Googling this question to no avail. Thinking you know your stuff & might have the answer.
@@robregal8008 The directional tires I have owned before were marked with the word 'outside' on one side of the wall of the tire. Also it will have an arrow for the direction. Some of them do say 'rotation' on them. One time, I bought a set from Discount Tires, and they actually mounted one of the four wrong with the 'outside' facing inside, and I had to go back and have them remount the tire. The tire tread are designed to wear in a forward moving direction, and usually have angled tread blocks forming a V shape in the middle.
@@dial2fast Thanks! Your video inspired me to rotate the tires on our 99 Civic. Might have to unload the 04 Quest soon, though. Intermittent starting issue no one can figure out.
If you are going to be using wheel chucks you should probably use 2 and also not put them against a tire that you are jacking up..... You're lucky that your vehicle has a center (front/rear) jack points.. Some of the newer vehicles don't have that anymore.
Depends on the type of tires you have. If you have directional tires, then you swap front to rear. For non-directional tires, you can do the x pattern. There is nothing wrong with just swapping front to back. Also most people have 2 jack stands at home. To do the x pattern, you will have to put the entire car on jackstands.
Excellent video, @dial2fast! Thank you! Is there balancing needed, or simply rotating is good to go? Currently unemployed now, and I need to start doing my own car maintenance; so your advice is greatly appreciated!
Should note it is important to only check tire pressure when tires are cold (like sitting overnight) I've seen it time and time again, customers drive to dealership to get oil change and rotation, tires are hot so they show over inflated so tech lets air out to 36 but then once tire cools it is under inflated..Customers are cluless or wouldn't even think about this.
Hi, I have a 2020 Odyssey Touring. I have a winter set of rims and tires (Odyssey LX rims) and I just recently switched to them. I have 2 issues: 1) There is no TPMS button to press beside the VSA button. 2) There is no selection for Tire Calibration on the infotainment screen - I selected Settings, Vehicle, then that's all there is,... there was no Tire calibration to select. Doesn't the 2020 Odyssey Touring have Indirect TPMS as well? I would have to get a warning - "TPMS problem" all the time now, please help
All Honda Odyssey have tires fitted with TPMS sensors inside the tire for it to work. There is no setting you can access via the LCD menu. Each sensor will have to be registered with the vehicle for the sensor to work. This requires a TPMS programming tool which mechanics have. You need to speak to your local dealer or tire shop to get the correct sensors installed and programmed.
@@dial2fast Thank you, the thing now is, I just learned a few things: 1) the 2020 Odyssey has a Direct TPMS snd all the while I thought I had the Indirect TPMS, Duh 2) I would need to get a separate set of TPMS on my winter rim set (unless I don't mind having no VSA temporarily or having the tpms warning light for 5 months) So for my winter set, would it be best to get the OEM tpms sensors or aftermarket? Or should I just leave it until spring to switch back to my Summer tire and rims which has the TPMS?
Great video, thanks! I just did our 2019 Odyssey without any issue following your method. Do you have to do anything to reset or calibrate the TPMS? I looked on the web and all the sites point to a TPMS calibration menu in the Vehicle settings but that doesn't exist in my vehicle...
Thanks for sharing your experience. AFAIK the 2018+ Odyssey does not have a 'reset' for TPMS. If you install a new TPMS sensor, then the sensor does need to be registered to the vehicle with a scan tool. But if you had low air (
I have been really happy with the Yokohama Geolander CV G058 tires. I have purchased 3 sets of them over the years. They have very good wear on them and ride very nice. The price is competitive and reasonable.
DO NOT use a torque wrench to loosen the lug nuts. That can mess up the calibration of the torque wrench. Some people then ask why does it have a forward/reverse selector. That's because there are some bolts that tighten counterclockwise.
@@dial2fast Ya, I saw your warning too late! Ask me how I know... 🙄 I used the reverse to loosen the lug nuts and presto! Broke the forward, reverse 'pin' of the torque wrench :(
I know there are different types of rotation. I've seen front to back and back to front like this and I've seen front to back and back to opposite front (passenger front to passenger rear and passenger rear to driver front for example). Any reason you chose one over the other?
Because for most home owners, this is the only way you can rotate tires assuming most people have 1 floor jack and 2 jack stands. Swapping the tires diagonally require you to jack all four corners up and putting it on jack stands or perhaps you have a lift at home. Also I have done it this way on the cars I owned and the tire wear is still even all around.
Love how clean all your tools look! You obviously take great pride in your work! Do you have a list of tools you’d need for most DIY auto repair? That’d be super handy
Very detailed video. Thank you. Why use the breaker bar when you could have used the impact gun (impact wrench) to loosen the lug nuts in the first place? That impact gun should have enough torque to loosen those nuts without needing the breaker bar. Am I missing something?
I was only showing the viewer you can use a breaker bar if you don't have an impact wrench. I have an impact wrench and that's what I used in the video.
It's better to get them moving first on the ground because if they've been impacted on and over torqued, sometimes the impact wrench won't loosen it. Then you'd have to lower it again to break it loose.
normally I enjoy your video's because they are very accurate. However, unless the tires are directional, then according to HONDA, you did the tire rotation incorrectly. Front tires straight back and rear tires cross opposite side. Merci
Torquing the rear wheels while the fronts are still in the air is a very unsafe practice. The force of torquing moves the vehicle back and forth a bit; which is enough for the front jack stands to tip off dropping the front end. Having all 4 wheels at a suspended height or on the ground is safe for torquing.
Always well done and filmed concise vids. Thanks for posting them! Great advice with loosening those Honda rotor screws while you still can. I live in the Northeast U.S. those screws often have to be drilled out. From what I understand they are actually an asian industrial size and slightly different than a standard phillips head. Always best to buy your new tires in sets of four for balanced traction at all 4 corners and always reset your Honda TPMS after rotation/adjusting tire pressure 👍🏽
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Is your tire directional? I notice that you are not following the rotation pattern of undirectional tires. Thank you.
You can also try this: Jack up the car near the drivers door. This will usually raise the rear tire as well and you can then just swap the tires front to rear and rear to front. If you're not working under the car you don't really need a jack stand. I've been doing it like this for years using a 3 ton floor jack. Good video!
Yes that is true. I have also rotated tires without jack stands, and is fine as long as you are not getting under the car. But I thought I'd show the 'safe' way so I don't get chewed out by the internet police...hehe
@@dial2fast so where is the jack point to lift on the side of the 2020 Odyssey?
@@dadaUnts The jack point on the side is where I placed the jack stand.
@@dadaUnts Pinch weld, just jack until both front and rear tires are high enough to remove, dont jack to far up unnecessarily.
Good video. But tires should not be rotated Front-Left with Back-Right and Front-Right with Back-Left?
For the home DIY mechanic, rotating the tires front to rear is perfectly fine. You will still maintain proper wear on all 4 tires by rotating it this way. If you have directional tires, then the tires can only be rotated front to rear. Of course if you have 4 jack stands and you want to jack up all 4 corners, then you can rotate them across (only for non-directional tires).
@@dial2fast Thanks for your reply
It's such a blessing to drive the same car as you sir! When it comes to it, I will be watching your vid again. Now I'm sensing the next vid is about oil change (item B)? lol
Lol...yes. the vid is sitting on my computer.
learned so much from your vids for years! Thank you!
Very informative! Thanks!! Well explained and well designed video!
Aren’t you supposed to cross the back tires?
Thanks for the video! Great to see the jacking points and jackstand points before I went outside.
Did I see this guy just swap front and back tires on the same side? One needs to go to the other side.
Yes he did. I was wondering the same. Even the manual states to do the "forward cross" pattern on this since those Turanzas are not directional tires. Oh well.
Please add the video for the brake fluid flush
4 yrs old I'm not sure if you'll respond but is there a difference jacking the car, putting the jack stands on the left and right of car and just changing the front tires then the back tires? I see you do the left side then the right side. Maybe this is because you are rotating tires I am just switching sets of tires for winter
I swapped the front and back for tire rotation because the front will get worn out faster than the rear. If you are just swapping out tires with winter ones, you can just do one corner at a time. There are lift points at the front and rear under the cross member to jack up the whole axle. Do what works for you and be safe.
Love your videos. Very descriptive and orderly.
Thank you!
So the only spot to place a Jack stand is behind front wheels and in front of rear wheels?
I jacked up the front passenger side… removed the wheel only to realize there’s no other Jack or lift points to place a Jack stand on.
I thought tire rotation was front left to rear right and front right to rear left....?
You are correct, but front to rear rotation is also an acceptable method for tires especially if you are running directional tires.
@@dial2fast Are directional tires always marked with "rotation >"? Or, are there times when you can only tell by looking at the tread? Spent a lot of time Googling this question to no avail. Thinking you know your stuff & might have the answer.
@@robregal8008 The directional tires I have owned before were marked with the word 'outside' on one side of the wall of the tire. Also it will have an arrow for the direction. Some of them do say 'rotation' on them. One time, I bought a set from Discount Tires, and they actually mounted one of the four wrong with the 'outside' facing inside, and I had to go back and have them remount the tire. The tire tread are designed to wear in a forward moving direction, and usually have angled tread blocks forming a V shape in the middle.
@@dial2fast Thanks! Your video inspired me to rotate the tires on our 99 Civic. Might have to unload the 04 Quest soon, though. Intermittent starting issue no one can figure out.
So no diagonal?
Not unless you have 4 jack stands and put all 4 corners on jack stands.
This jacking point is also on a 2014 odyssey..is that a jacking point on that car too?
If you are going to be using wheel chucks you should probably use 2 and also not put them against a tire that you are jacking up..... You're lucky that your vehicle has a center (front/rear) jack points.. Some of the newer vehicles don't have that anymore.
Spectacular video. Very well done!! No details missed.
Thanks for sharing, I love how everything is so clean. Keep it up.
Aren't you supposed to rotate the tires front to back but also left to right in an X-pattern?
Depends on the type of tires you have. If you have directional tires, then you swap front to rear. For non-directional tires, you can do the x pattern. There is nothing wrong with just swapping front to back. Also most people have 2 jack stands at home. To do the x pattern, you will have to put the entire car on jackstands.
@@dial2fast 👍
Do you know how to jack a civic 2019 up from the front both wheels?
Your videos have been so informative and thorough. Thanks very much.
Excellent video, @dial2fast! Thank you! Is there balancing needed, or simply rotating is good to go? Currently unemployed now, and I need to start doing my own car maintenance; so your advice is greatly appreciated!
You don't need to balance unless you are having vibration issue when driving.
@@dial2fast thank you for the confirmation, sir!
Should note it is important to only check tire pressure when tires are cold (like sitting overnight) I've seen it time and time again, customers drive to dealership to get oil change and rotation, tires are hot so they show over inflated so tech lets air out to 36 but then once tire cools it is under inflated..Customers are cluless or wouldn't even think about this.
Good tip. You simply tell the tech to inflate the hot tires to 39 PSI (+5 PSI for hot tires).
Hi, I have a 2020 Odyssey Touring. I have a winter set of rims and tires (Odyssey LX rims) and I just recently switched to them.
I have 2 issues:
1) There is no TPMS button to press beside the VSA button.
2) There is no selection for Tire Calibration on the infotainment screen - I selected Settings, Vehicle, then that's all there is,... there was no Tire calibration to select.
Doesn't the 2020 Odyssey Touring have Indirect TPMS as well?
I would have to get a warning - "TPMS problem" all the time now, please help
All Honda Odyssey have tires fitted with TPMS sensors inside the tire for it to work. There is no setting you can access via the LCD menu. Each sensor will have to be registered with the vehicle for the sensor to work. This requires a TPMS programming tool which mechanics have. You need to speak to your local dealer or tire shop to get the correct sensors installed and programmed.
@@dial2fast Thank you, the thing now is, I just learned a few things:
1) the 2020 Odyssey has a Direct TPMS snd all the while I thought I had the Indirect TPMS, Duh
2) I would need to get a separate set of TPMS on my winter rim set (unless I don't mind having no VSA temporarily or having the tpms warning light for 5 months)
So for my winter set, would it be best to get the OEM tpms sensors or aftermarket? Or should I just leave it until spring to switch back to my Summer tire and rims which has the TPMS?
Great video, thanks! I just did our 2019 Odyssey without any issue following your method. Do you have to do anything to reset or calibrate the TPMS? I looked on the web and all the sites point to a TPMS calibration menu in the Vehicle settings but that doesn't exist in my vehicle...
Thanks for sharing your experience. AFAIK the 2018+ Odyssey does not have a 'reset' for TPMS. If you install a new TPMS sensor, then the sensor does need to be registered to the vehicle with a scan tool. But if you had low air (
Love your videos. Thank you very much for going out of your way to produce them. They certainly have been helpful for me and my 2019 Odyssey.
Thank you for your wonderful comment. Have a great week!
Great job!
I love your videos, please keep them coming!!
Hi, which tires do you recommend for odyssey 2019? Thanks
I have been really happy with the Yokohama Geolander CV G058 tires. I have purchased 3 sets of them over the years. They have very good wear on them and ride very nice. The price is competitive and reasonable.
Can you show us how to program the TPM on Pathfinder
Why do you use a breaker bar instead of torque wrench to loosen the lug nuts? Is it necessary to purchase two different tools?
DO NOT use a torque wrench to loosen the lug nuts. That can mess up the calibration of the torque wrench. Some people then ask why does it have a forward/reverse selector. That's because there are some bolts that tighten counterclockwise.
@@dial2fast Ya, I saw your warning too late! Ask me how I know... 🙄 I used the reverse to loosen the lug nuts and presto! Broke the forward, reverse 'pin' of the torque wrench :(
I know there are different types of rotation. I've seen front to back and back to front like this and I've seen front to back and back to opposite front (passenger front to passenger rear and passenger rear to driver front for example). Any reason you chose one over the other?
Because for most home owners, this is the only way you can rotate tires assuming most people have 1 floor jack and 2 jack stands. Swapping the tires diagonally require you to jack all four corners up and putting it on jack stands or perhaps you have a lift at home. Also I have done it this way on the cars I owned and the tire wear is still even all around.
Back to opposite front will screw up the tire direction. It is only OK for tires without direction. Winter tires usually have direction mark on them.
Hello
I was wandering if you are going to put any other type of alarm to your beautiful minivan? Like the viper alarm
No plan to do that as it already comes with remote start from the factory. Thanks for your comment!
I just purchase 2019 odyssey I choose the Deep Scarlet Pearl, How many miles do you rotate the tires?
You can rotate every 5000 to 7000 miles
Great video, I would have never known about the center jack points. Thank you!
should be noted in your owner's manual.
Bought an oddesey elite just like yours but in black. Subscribed as I am a diyer.
Congrats on your neq Elite. Stay tuned for more videos
Love how clean all your tools look! You obviously take great pride in your work! Do you have a list of tools you’d need for most DIY auto repair? That’d be super handy
Take a look at the list in the description.
Very detailed video. Thank you. Why use the breaker bar when you could have used the impact gun (impact wrench) to loosen the lug nuts in the first place? That impact gun should have enough torque to loosen those nuts without needing the breaker bar. Am I missing something?
I was only showing the viewer you can use a breaker bar if you don't have an impact wrench. I have an impact wrench and that's what I used in the video.
It's better to get them moving first on the ground because if they've been impacted on and over torqued, sometimes the impact wrench won't loosen it. Then you'd have to lower it again to break it loose.
is the hood deflector worth it
Yes and I put it on every car i own because it prevents rock chips on your hood.
Next step, take it to a tire shop to get an alignment, mount/balance, & reset tpms.
I've been told by a tire rack employee that minivans like this Odyssey tend to need alignment than regular cars.
Love that Elite Odyssey, looks best in white with the tint you did. Very nice Sir. Have you had any issues with your van / regrets?
Yes, my wife and I still loving it. Thanks for your comment!
@@dial2fast Good deal, we love our 2019 EX as well. Drooling over those 19" wheels but we would just curb them anyway lol
great video. i would also recommend applying electric parking break (see page 107 of the van manual).
Great point!
normally I enjoy your video's because they are very accurate. However, unless the tires are directional, then according to HONDA, you did the tire rotation incorrectly. Front tires straight back and rear tires cross opposite side. Merci
Do you put anti seize on the lugs as well?
Never put anti seize on lug nuts.
2020 Elite💪🏽
How many tons is that floor jack? Thanks for the info!
3.5 ton
Hi was That 3/8 or 1/2 Ryobi impact drive
That's a 1/2" Ryobi impact. See link in description of video.
What you think about a 3/8 will I do the job on a auto mechanic or not so
@@romanrebisz4205 I also have a Ryobi 3/8" and it will work well to break loose nuts and bolts.
Is the same tire rotation on 2012 odyssey
Torquing the rear wheels while the fronts are still in the air is a very unsafe practice. The force of torquing moves the vehicle back and forth a bit; which is enough for the front jack stands to tip off dropping the front end. Having all 4 wheels at a suspended height or on the ground is safe for torquing.
Always well done and filmed concise vids. Thanks for posting them! Great advice with loosening those Honda rotor screws while you still can. I live in the Northeast U.S. those screws often have to be drilled out. From what I understand they are actually an asian industrial size and slightly different than a standard phillips head. Always best to buy your new tires in sets of four for balanced traction at all 4 corners and always reset your Honda TPMS after rotation/adjusting tire pressure 👍🏽
very well explained and this video shows how easy to do oil change
Excellent detail! Thank you for making this video!
But can you balance them too
No