I bought one of these when I was a cadet in 1983. I got out in 1986 and stowed the compass, LBE, everything for 37 years. I retired from one agency 7 years ago and started with another in a semi-rural beach community. God love'em, but we can't rely on the fire volunteers for water rescues or SAR. We've taken on those missions in addition to EMS. We've got someone coming to teach SAR, and it includes lensatic compasses and maps. I can't find my Ranger beads so I'm going to build another set. I bought new canteens to go in my LBE. Gonna buy a new angle flashlight, and a protractor.
Nice, sounds like fun. I’d love to do something like that. I’m going to pick up some various beads and put them on the compass lanyard itself. With both sides of the lanyard going through each bead. I usually just attach the lanyard to belt and put the compass in a pocket. With the lanyard just hanging out there I thought, just combine the beads and compass. We’ll see
Thank you it’s been so long since I’ve look at or even nav on a compass. I’m 57 and was a young cadet/reserves til 23.Just watching part1 brings back memories.
Your talk about cheap compasses at 3:50 reminded me of an old saying, "There are two ways to pay for something. One is with money, and the other is with quality; and I certainly prefer paying with the former than the latter." -attributed to Benjamin Franklin
Excellent video. Just a minor thing, at 14:46 that would be wrong. The sighting wire should be at 90 degrees, not folded down. Like you said, even small errors will become magnified with every step. With it folded down, the sight radius is shortened. His sight radius is only a fraction of what it would be with it at 90 degrees. Personally, I find it best to have the lens bracket all the way back as well. I do wear glasses tho so that may be different for each person. Excellent job tho!
Man, that was an excellent presentation. I have this compass, so I am very much looking forward to the following episodes. Plan on using it a lot this spring/summer, so get crackin' on the next videos! Happy new subscriber here. Glad this video popped up on my search, sincerely. PEACE OUT!
I appreciated the very through description of all of the parts of the Commenga compass. I have watched several of theses videos and you covered this really well. Something else , everybody says is how metal object affect the needle. This is not a criticism but I feel like it is important to say that only metal that contains iron will affect a compass needle. You will notice that the case is made of aluminum, which is a metal. Brass, aluminum, copper, lead, any non ferrous metals have no effect.
Great video, thanks for the time, I have a feeling there will be many people wandering the woods, not sure which way to the nearest convenience store, damn 😞
A lovley nemonic to remember the steps = Tierd Virgins Make Dull Company. True North - plus minus Magnetic Varation = Magnetic North -plus or minus Deviation on compass= Compass course.
BEST TUTORIAL for a Linsatic Compass on YT!!!! This is the ONLY guy that doesn’t “Talk down to you” like Your an F’n MORON! He is Very easy to understand, he is very thorough, and doesn’t dwell on USELESS Information your not gonna use! To the point, uses visuals to help you understand, and just talks to your like your a “Regular Joe”! I think he’s does the VERY BEST presentation on YT! WELL DONE BRUTHA!! W. Cumbie/ US NAVY Gunnersmate Ret.
Not sure about quality, for example accuracy, we use degrees and on the Cammenga degrees is a secondary low precision scale, the precision scale being mills. The luminous bezel line can only be set by ear with 3° clicks, counting 120 clicks to the circle. ...
With the bezel being set up with a 3° adjustment ever detent click, wouldn't this potentially put you off by anywhere up to 2° direction of travel? I understand you wouldn't just take one reading and head out 100 miles away. So how much of an issue could this 3° detent cause?
Something to keep in mind is that you're not just blindly walking to a specific location, you're utilizing your eyesight that can see potentially many miles away from yourself, which in turn could let you correct your position. When doing Land Navigation, you want to utilize everything at your disposal. The map, terrain association, Pace count, your compass, etc. My point in all this is that the 3 degree tolerance is not going to overcome the utilization of everything else you use and Land navigation. Another thing to add is distance. I'm never sat down to do the math of how many miles two degrees off of each other ends up being away from each other, but I think it would have to be a great distance.
Unless you dropped out of school at K5, how could you possibly be off by 2 degrees?? Let's say you needed 14 degree adjustment. Then adjust to 15 degrees, you're only 1 degree off. Let's say you needed a 17 degree adjustment, then adjust to 18 degrees you're only 1 degree off. It's impossible to be off by more than 1 degree. I can't for the life of me understand where you got 2 degrees from.
@@SergeantExtreme As a drop out I can say that maybe not the bezel alone but when the floating dial with one line every 5° is used 17:22 to set a bezel with one position every 3° the combined error is mostly over 2°.
I'm sure there are other great compasses out there. The Commenga brand is one that has been tested and approved for the US Military for years. When you conduct Land Nav, there is always a tolerance point of inaccuracy, but the Commenga brand is well within that tolerance.
Thanks for making this simple to understand.
I bought one of these when I was a cadet in 1983. I got out in 1986 and stowed the compass, LBE, everything for 37 years. I retired from one agency 7 years ago and started with another in a semi-rural beach community. God love'em, but we can't rely on the fire volunteers for water rescues or SAR. We've taken on those missions in addition to EMS. We've got someone coming to teach SAR, and it includes lensatic compasses and maps. I can't find my Ranger beads so I'm going to build another set. I bought new canteens to go in my LBE. Gonna buy a new angle flashlight, and a protractor.
Nice, sounds like fun. I’d love to do something like that. I’m going to pick up some various beads and put them on the compass lanyard itself. With both sides of the lanyard going through each bead. I usually just attach the lanyard to belt and put the compass in a pocket. With the lanyard just hanging out there I thought, just combine the beads and compass. We’ll see
For the first time the magnifier makes sense and I can actually read the compass once I tried the cheek weld method. Thank you brother!
Thank you it’s been so long since I’ve look at or even nav on a compass.
I’m 57 and was a young cadet/reserves til 23.Just watching part1 brings back memories.
Fantastic I like this video greetings from belize
Outstanding videos. Apparently, he was listening. I preach to my kids. LISTEN AND LEARN.
Finally a compass video I understood. The visuals really helped too. Thank you!
Your talk about cheap compasses at 3:50 reminded me of an old saying, "There are two ways to pay for something. One is with money, and the other is with quality; and I certainly prefer paying with the former than the latter." -attributed to Benjamin Franklin
Learning these skills are most definitely important
Former Vietnam point man here. These are excellent. Good refresher!
Great video! I've done land nav and used this compass for years and there were a few things and features I learned about in your video
Great lesson. I look forward to seeing the rest of the videos on this topic. Keep up the good work.
Excellent video. Just a minor thing, at 14:46 that would be wrong. The sighting wire should be at 90 degrees, not folded down. Like you said, even small errors will become magnified with every step. With it folded down, the sight radius is shortened. His sight radius is only a fraction of what it would be with it at 90 degrees. Personally, I find it best to have the lens bracket all the way back as well. I do wear glasses tho so that may be different for each person.
Excellent job tho!
Man, that was an excellent presentation. I have this compass, so I am very much looking forward to the following episodes. Plan on using it a lot this spring/summer, so get crackin' on the next videos! Happy new subscriber here. Glad this video popped up on my search, sincerely. PEACE OUT!
I appreciated the very through description of all of the parts of the Commenga compass. I have watched several of theses videos and you covered this really well. Something else , everybody says is how metal object affect the needle. This is not a criticism but I feel like it is important to say that only metal that contains iron will affect a compass needle. You will notice that the case is made of aluminum, which is a metal. Brass, aluminum, copper, lead, any non ferrous metals have no effect.
Excellent video. Note, metal frame eyeglasses will also cause significant error when using the cheek method.
I'm glad this is here Im a traveler and was just gifted this compass
Thank you so much sir, very clear and detailed training. Subscribed.
This video is a precious gem for me. Thanks a bunch man!
This was a well put together video. Liked, commented, and subscribed! Great work man!
Excellent video.
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Great video, thanks for the time, I have a feeling there will be many people wandering the woods, not sure which way to the nearest convenience store, damn 😞
Great videos hope you make more
Great content. Thanks!
A lovley nemonic to remember the steps = Tierd Virgins Make Dull Company. True North - plus minus Magnetic Varation = Magnetic North -plus or minus Deviation on compass= Compass course.
Fantastic tutorial!
MAGE
Magnetic
Grid
Easterly declination
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Most of what you need to know.
I see either eye was used, but does it matter if left handed if used?
Excelente
BEST TUTORIAL for a Linsatic Compass on YT!!!! This is the ONLY guy that doesn’t “Talk down to you” like
Your an F’n MORON! He is Very easy to understand, he is very thorough, and doesn’t dwell on USELESS Information your not gonna use! To the point, uses visuals to help you understand, and just talks to your like your a “Regular Joe”! I think he’s does the VERY BEST presentation on YT!
WELL DONE BRUTHA!!
W. Cumbie/ US NAVY Gunnersmate Ret.
Thank you Sir.
Where can I download the Army power point presentation? Also, what is the GTA or FM number? What is the NSN of the compass? Thanks!
Not sure about quality, for example accuracy, we use degrees and on the Cammenga degrees is a secondary low precision scale, the precision scale being mills. The luminous bezel line can only be set by ear with 3° clicks, counting 120 clicks to the circle. ...
Is your graphics available for download?
With the bezel being set up with a 3° adjustment ever detent click, wouldn't this potentially put you off by anywhere up to 2° direction of travel?
I understand you wouldn't just take one reading and head out 100 miles away.
So how much of an issue could this 3° detent cause?
Something to keep in mind is that you're not just blindly walking to a specific location, you're utilizing your eyesight that can see potentially many miles away from yourself, which in turn could let you correct your position. When doing Land Navigation, you want to utilize everything at your disposal. The map, terrain association, Pace count, your compass, etc. My point in all this is that the 3 degree tolerance is not going to overcome the utilization of everything else you use and Land navigation. Another thing to add is distance. I'm never sat down to do the math of how many miles two degrees off of each other ends up being away from each other, but I think it would have to be a great distance.
Unless you dropped out of school at K5, how could you possibly be off by 2 degrees?? Let's say you needed 14 degree adjustment. Then adjust to 15 degrees, you're only 1 degree off. Let's say you needed a 17 degree adjustment, then adjust to 18 degrees you're only 1 degree off. It's impossible to be off by more than 1 degree. I can't for the life of me understand where you got 2 degrees from.
@@SergeantExtreme As a drop out I can say that maybe not the bezel alone but when the floating dial with one line every 5° is used 17:22 to set a bezel with one position every 3° the combined error is mostly over 2°.
One degree of error over a distance of one mile results in 92 feet off of target destination. @SFActual
That was great! Thanks for the in depth explanation
Which country's military has the better lensatic compass? UK? Russia? China? Germany? France? USA?
The UK prismatic one is probably the nicest if you're not worried about price.
Mam pytanie, jak czytać datę na wieczku rok, miesiąc dzień od której strony?
Good video!
Is the cammenga the best at pointing precisely toward the magnetic north?
I'm sure there are other great compasses out there. The Commenga brand is one that has been tested and approved for the US Military for years. When you conduct Land Nav, there is always a tolerance point of inaccuracy, but the Commenga brand is well within that tolerance.
I’m curious if other companies sell tritium versions? I have mine from the 80’s, still glows nice and brightly!
@@asmith7876 There are only three companies in America that are licensed to handle Tritium, and the other two are not compass manufactures.
Real DOD lensatic compasses have tritium sight, so its a 'controlled' item.
Ha, Ha I got lost with a military compass and three other artillery cadets!
skip to 11:56
"lenstetic" compass?
Of course the woman is using it wrong lol
Beat me to it. I was just about to post the same thing.